Re: [gentoo-user] FAN-Speed readout/control ???
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hallo, I want to read the fan speed and want to control it with gentoo. My motherboard is a ASUS Crosshair IV Formula. lm_sensors does not report any relevant sensor. Does anyone got this working on this or an equivalent board with 890FX chipset? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards mcc I'll tell you how I did mine. Just build all the sensor drivers into the kernel, not modules but built in. Compile and boot the kernel. Methos one, if you open gkrellm and it can see the fans, temp and such, then it is working. Sometimes you can look in gkrellm's configuration and find the driver. When you open the sensors window, it will list the path which contains the name of the sensor. Another way, cat /sys/devices/platform/ then hit tab twice. Mine for example lists it87.552. The it87 part is what you look for in the kernel. If you want to be certain it sees everything, continue with the cat command and hitting tab until you get to where it lists all the fan and temp files. Mine has two temps and about 4 fans I think it is. If you see what should be there then you have the right one. Then go back to the kernel and remove everything but the one that matches what you found either in gkrellm or the cat command. Rebuild the kernel and reboot. This seems like a lot of trouble but after spending about two hours on google and not finding the info, that was what I did. It isn't always the easy way but it works for me. You could also google for linux compatible hardware and see if someone was nice enough to post what they used on one of those sites. That doesn't always work. Hope that helps or gives you a good chuckle for the round about way of doing it. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mutt+gnupg: how do you name the attached signature file ?
* Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu [11.12.2010. @12:13:27 -0500]: Thanks for the work! If you want the patch merged into the gentoo patch set, I think you should file a bug on bugs.gentoo.org, if you haven't already done so. You are right, I have just filled a bug here (my first one \\o \o/ o//): http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348477 Regards, JC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] FAN-Speed readout/control ???
Just build all the sensor drivers into the kernel, not modules but built in. A simpler way: - make sure you have CONFIG_I2C_CHARDEV=y, CONFIG_I2C_HELPER_AUTO=y and select the correct I2C hardware bus drivers for your platform (CONFIG_I2C_I801 for most recent Intel chipsets and CONFIG_I2C_PIIX4 for most recent AMD chipsets; reading the help text of the various drivers should point you in the right direction); - emerge sys-apps/lm_sensors - run sensors-detect - enable the drivers for all the things sensors-detect finds. Hopefully you won't have any unsupported chips... - you can then add lm_sensors to the default runlevel, so that it loads the correct modules during the boot process. The final step is to configure the software you use to display the sensor readings. It is usually a matter of attaching the correct labels to the various inputs, and possibly tweaking the scaling factors so that the readings match those shown by the BIOS; as the details depend on the specific manufacturer and model of your board, this will usually be a trial and error process, although google might help you. The comments in /etc/sensor3.conf, which controls software using the libraries provided by lm_sensors, are also a useful source of information. cat /sys/devices/platform/ This will miss those sensors which do not appear as a platform device (e.g. the AMD k10 on-die temperature sensors, which is a PCI device). andrea
Re: [gentoo-user] Gigabyte and controlling fans
It's a Gigabyte 770T series mobo. It uses the it8720 chip. You can try writing directly to the pwm control inputs under the platform device node (i.e. /sys/devices/platform/it87.xxx/pwm*); these usually take 8-bit (0-255) values. E.g. to set pwm1 to a value of 127 you just do echo 127 /sys/devices/platform/it87.xxx/pwm1 You should take a look at the it87 driver source to find out what the various parameters mean. Note that I don't have a board with a modern it87 chip (i.e. one which can do fan PWM control) at hand, so the device names might be different; these were taken from a board using a Winbond w83627dhg chip. Also, if you wish to control the fans manually you should probably turn off any kind of automatic fan control in the BIOS. andrea
Re: [gentoo-user] FAN-Speed readout/control ???
Andrea Conti a...@alyf.net [10-12-12 10:24]: Just build all the sensor drivers into the kernel, not modules but built in. A simpler way: - make sure you have CONFIG_I2C_CHARDEV=y, CONFIG_I2C_HELPER_AUTO=y and select the correct I2C hardware bus drivers for your platform (CONFIG_I2C_I801 for most recent Intel chipsets and CONFIG_I2C_PIIX4 for most recent AMD chipsets; reading the help text of the various drivers should point you in the right direction); - emerge sys-apps/lm_sensors - run sensors-detect - enable the drivers for all the things sensors-detect finds. Hopefully you won't have any unsupported chips... - you can then add lm_sensors to the default runlevel, so that it loads the correct modules during the boot process. The final step is to configure the software you use to display the sensor readings. It is usually a matter of attaching the correct labels to the various inputs, and possibly tweaking the scaling factors so that the readings match those shown by the BIOS; as the details depend on the specific manufacturer and model of your board, this will usually be a trial and error process, although google might help you. The comments in /etc/sensor3.conf, which controls software using the libraries provided by lm_sensors, are also a useful source of information. cat /sys/devices/platform/ This will miss those sensors which do not appear as a platform device (e.g. the AMD k10 on-die temperature sensors, which is a PCI device). andrea Hi Andrea, Hi Dale, Before I post my question I did, what you have suggested, Andrea. Sensors-detect reports the it87 chip to be included as module/in the kernel, which I did -- but the driver does not produces any output AMD k10 was already in and reports everything -- only the fan stuff was missing, which (normall) the ITE (it87) chip is used for. The version of lm_sensors, which is in portage reports here driver to be written but the svn-version of lm_sensors seems to support it. I installed that svn-version locally but I cant read from the ITE chip. Still only voltages and temperatures. GKrellm (normally I use conky) also detects no fans. @Dale: Do you have exactly the same board (ASUS Crosshair IV formula) as I, or? I tried to include everything into the kernel but unfortunately the results are the same: No fans and the it87 driver seems not to work for me... Any other ideas? Best regards and have a nive sunday! mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] FAN-Speed readout/control ???
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Andrea, Hi Dale, Before I post my question I did, what you have suggested, Andrea. Sensors-detect reports the it87 chip to be included as module/in the kernel, which I did -- but the driver does not produces any output AMD k10 was already in and reports everything -- only the fan stuff was missing, which (normall) the ITE (it87) chip is used for. The version of lm_sensors, which is in portage reports here driver to be written but the svn-version of lm_sensors seems to support it. I installed that svn-version locally but I cant read from the ITE chip. Still only voltages and temperatures. GKrellm (normally I use conky) also detects no fans. @Dale: Do you have exactly the same board (ASUS Crosshair IV formula) as I, or? I tried to include everything into the kernel but unfortunately the results are the same: No fans and the it87 driver seems not to work for me... Any other ideas? Best regards and have a nive sunday! mcc I have a Gigabyte mobo here. There are two places that you have to enable all the sensors tho. As was posted a bit ago, one is I2C Support and one is Hardware Monitoring Support both of which are under Device Drivers. Is it possible that you left one out? If you built all the drivers in and it didn't work, then you may have to wait on a newer kernel. If you are running a stable kernel, you may want to try a unstable one since they are newer and may have the updated drivers. I'm using 2.6.36 gentoo-sources here. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] FAN-Speed readout/control ???
On Sunday 12 December 2010 06:25:21 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hallo, I want to read the fan speed and want to control it with gentoo. My motherboard is a ASUS Crosshair IV Formula. lm_sensors does not report any relevant sensor. Does anyone got this working on this or an equivalent board with 890FX chipset? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards mcc build all sensor drivers AND all transport as modules run sensors-detect edit lm_sensors conf in /etc/conf rc-update add lm_sensors default pwmconfig lots of stuff rc-update add fancontrol default. There are some problems with asus boards. They need some acpi support - and if they can do the fancontrol you have to deactivate that in the bios (google!). I used fancontrol with all my asrock boards. With my Asus board I am using the bios control, because it works pretty well. And always. And for all three fans connected. Even the ones connected with 3pin connectors.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gigabyte and controlling fans
On Saturday 11 December 2010 22:52:24 Dale wrote: HI, I got everything installed on the new rig. Trying to sort out some kinks now. I notice that Gigabyte has software for windoze to control the fan speed and such. I use gkrellm to monitor them but was wondering if there is a Linux package that does the same. Is there such a thing? I looked using eix and friends but I don't see anything in the tree. I found the windoze version with google but nothing for Linux. It's a Gigabyte 770T series mobo. It uses the it8720 chip. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) fancontrol
Re: [gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant connect-disconnect loop
On Sunday 12 December 2010 02:07:02 Valmor de Almeida wrote: On 12/11/2010 08:35 PM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: To add to the above from the message logs, wlan0 deauthenticates from the AP by local choice (reason=3) If you are getting these disconnections even with WPA/2 encryption disabled then this is probably related to a bug on the driver, which falls over itself when running with wpa_supplicant. There are reports in google about it and a suggested fix is to disable 11n and 5.0GHz: http://www.jpdw.org/blog/intel-wireless-broken-ubuntu-904 Run modinfo for your driver and find the parameters that control other than 802.11g modes and disable them by creating and adding them to a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ for your driver if it's not already there. Alternatively, see if you can disable any modes other than 802.11g at your AP and test to find out if this resolves the problem for now. HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Sunday 12 December 2010 05:57:19 Valmor de Almeida wrote: On 12/11/2010 08:52 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-11-19, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] and paste this in it: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? deviceinfo version=0.2 device match key=info.capabilities contains=input.touchpad merge key=input.x11_driver type=stringsynaptics/merge [ synaptic driver options] /match /device /deviceinfo Then see the examples in the file and man synaptics for finely tuning your touchpad. However ... I would at this stage suggest again that you have a look at xorg-server-1.9.x instead of trying to get HAL working. Brilliant. After tweaking a few of the pressure settings, my touchpad works great! The hard part is remembering to restart hald as well as the X server whenever you make any changes... Thanks for all the posts. I finally fixed the same problem I've had with my Thinkpad X201. In my case I had to do 1) Edit /etc/make.conf INPUT_DEVICES=evdev synaptics 2) emerge xorg-drivers (also emerged xorg-server and xorg-x11 to be on the safe side) 3) cp /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/11-x11-synaptics.fdi /etc/hal/fdi/policy/. 4) edit 11-x11-synaptics.fdi 5) /etc/init.d/hald restart 6) restart xorg-server Guys I'm glad that my pointers helped you get it going - but I have to say that soon with xorg-server-1.9 becoming stable HAL and its xml configuration files will be a thing of the past. Still, you have the satisfaction of cracking this one! :-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] FAN-Speed readout/control ???
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [10-12-12 11:32]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Andrea, Hi Dale, Before I post my question I did, what you have suggested, Andrea. Sensors-detect reports the it87 chip to be included as module/in the kernel, which I did -- but the driver does not produces any output AMD k10 was already in and reports everything -- only the fan stuff was missing, which (normall) the ITE (it87) chip is used for. The version of lm_sensors, which is in portage reports here driver to be written but the svn-version of lm_sensors seems to support it. I installed that svn-version locally but I cant read from the ITE chip. Still only voltages and temperatures. GKrellm (normally I use conky) also detects no fans. @Dale: Do you have exactly the same board (ASUS Crosshair IV formula) as I, or? I tried to include everything into the kernel but unfortunately the results are the same: No fans and the it87 driver seems not to work for me... Any other ideas? Best regards and have a nive sunday! mcc I have a Gigabyte mobo here. There are two places that you have to enable all the sensors tho. As was posted a bit ago, one is I2C Support and one is Hardware Monitoring Support both of which are under Device Drivers. Is it possible that you left one out? If you built all the drivers in and it didn't work, then you may have to wait on a newer kernel. If you are running a stable kernel, you may want to try a unstable one since they are newer and may have the updated drivers. I'm using 2.6.36 gentoo-sources here. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) Hi Dale, I enabled CONFIG_HWMON=y and CONFIG_I2C=y, I also see temperatures and voltages (I still a little confused by what ASUS states of the CPU-dye temperature of not being a physical temperature but one of arbitrary scale...but this another field to explore...). My kernel is a 2.36.6.2 vanilla...I didn't found any newer ;) ;) ;) Seems I am lost ?!? Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] FAN-Speed readout/control ???
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com [10-12-12 11:32]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Andrea, Hi Dale, Before I post my question I did, what you have suggested, Andrea. Sensors-detect reports the it87 chip to be included as module/in the kernel, which I did -- but the driver does not produces any output AMD k10 was already in and reports everything -- only the fan stuff was missing, which (normall) the ITE (it87) chip is used for. The version of lm_sensors, which is in portage reports here driver to be written but the svn-version of lm_sensors seems to support it. I installed that svn-version locally but I cant read from the ITE chip. Still only voltages and temperatures. GKrellm (normally I use conky) also detects no fans. @Dale: Do you have exactly the same board (ASUS Crosshair IV formula) as I, or? I tried to include everything into the kernel but unfortunately the results are the same: No fans and the it87 driver seems not to work for me... Any other ideas? Best regards and have a nive sunday! mcc I have a Gigabyte mobo here. There are two places that you have to enable all the sensors tho. As was posted a bit ago, one is I2C Support and one is Hardware Monitoring Support both of which are under Device Drivers. Is it possible that you left one out? If you built all the drivers in and it didn't work, then you may have to wait on a newer kernel. If you are running a stable kernel, you may want to try a unstable one since they are newer and may have the updated drivers. I'm using 2.6.36 gentoo-sources here. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) Hi Dale, I enabled CONFIG_HWMON=y and CONFIG_I2C=y, I also see temperatures and voltages (I still a little confused by what ASUS states of the CPU-dye temperature of not being a physical temperature but one of arbitrary scale...but this another field to explore...). My kernel is a 2.36.6.2 vanilla...I didn't found any newer ;) ;) ;) Seems I am lost ?!? Best regards, mcc I built me a new rig in the past week. There are two reasons I don't buy bleeding edge. 1: Cost 2: Drivers not being ready and/or stable. My mobo is about a year old. That is enough time to let the kernel people sort out some nice drivers. Maybe someone here can point you to a place where you can see if they are being worked on. I'm sure there is a website with all kinds of info. The only one I can think of is http://kernel.org/ which shows a newer version than I have. May could see if they have new ones in them. Given what lm-sensors says and the fact the ones in the kernel don't work, I'm not sure what else to try. Dale :-) :_)
Re: [gentoo-user] Gigabyte and controlling fans
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Saturday 11 December 2010 22:52:24 Dale wrote: HI, I got everything installed on the new rig. Trying to sort out some kinks now. I notice that Gigabyte has software for windoze to control the fan speed and such. I use gkrellm to monitor them but was wondering if there is a Linux package that does the same. Is there such a thing? I looked using eix and friends but I don't see anything in the tree. I found the windoze version with google but nothing for Linux. It's a Gigabyte 770T series mobo. It uses the it8720 chip. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) fancontrol That comes from lm-sensors. Hmmm. Since I have my stuff built into the kernel, can I still use that or would they clash somehow? Also, this is a desktop not a laptop just in case it matters. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] ebuild creation (python-2.7) - please help
Hi, after switching to Python-2.7 an ebuild of myself fails. I'm trying to write an ebuild for dev-python/pyparsing- My attemp fails with 'setup.py' not found. The package is unpacked into /var/tmp/portage/dev-python/pyparsing-/work/pyparsing- This contains the subdirectories doc examples and src. And the setup.py files is in src. Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. Here my attempt: # Copyright 1999-2008 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/dev-python/pyparsing/ pyparsing-1.4.10.ebuild,v 1.1 2008/01/25 05:06:52 hawking Exp $ EAPI=3 SUPPORT_PYTHON_ABIS=1 inherit distutils eutils subversion DESCRIPTION=pyparsing is an easy-to-use Python module for text parsing HOMEPAGE=http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/; ESVN_REPO_URI=https://pyparsing.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ pyparsing/ ESVN_PROJECT=${PN} LICENSE=MIT SLOT=0 KEYWORDS=~alpha ~amd64 ~ia64 ~ppc ~sparc ~x86 IUSE=doc examples S=${WORKDIR}/pyparsing- src-compile() { cd ${WORKDIR}/pyparsing-/src distutils_src_compile } src_install() { cd ${WORKDIR}/pyparsing-/src distutils_src_install dohtml HowToUsePyparsing.html dodoc CHANGES if use doc; then dohtml -r htmldoc/* insinto /usr/share/doc/${PF} doins docs/*.pdf fi if use examples; then insinto /usr/share/doc/${PF} doins -r examples fi }
Re: [gentoo-user] Gigabyte and controlling fans
On Sunday 12 December 2010 05:20:27 Dale wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Saturday 11 December 2010 22:52:24 Dale wrote: HI, I got everything installed on the new rig. Trying to sort out some kinks now. I notice that Gigabyte has software for windoze to control the fan speed and such. I use gkrellm to monitor them but was wondering if there is a Linux package that does the same. Is there such a thing? I looked using eix and friends but I don't see anything in the tree. I found the windoze version with google but nothing for Linux. It's a Gigabyte 770T series mobo. It uses the it8720 chip. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) fancontrol That comes from lm-sensors. Hmmm. Since I have my stuff built into the kernel, can I still use that or would they clash somehow? Also, this is a desktop not a laptop just in case it matters. Dale :-) :-) a) building the sensor stuff into the kernel is stupid b) yes
Re: [gentoo-user] FAN-Speed readout/control ???
AMD k10 was already in and reports everything -- only the fan stuff was missing, which (normall) the ITE (it87) chip is used for. Current IT87xx chips provide fan, temperature and voltage readings. If you built the drivers as modules, are you sure everything (it87 and the relevant i2c drivers) is loaded? Check the kernel log for any error messages. The version of lm_sensors, which is in portage reports here driver to be written but the svn-version of lm_sensors seems to support it Support for a specific sensor chip is provided by the kernel driver, not by lm_sensors. sensor-detect only provides advice based on the situation at the time it was released; if a more recent revision says that the chip is supported, it means that a driver for the chip now exists, *not* that the driver provided by the current kernel supports it. However, according to this page the it8720F chip seems to be supported starting from kernel 2.6.29, so kernel version is not your problem. http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Devices andrea
Re: [gentoo-user] FAN-Speed readout/control ???
Andrea Conti a...@alyf.net [10-12-12 14:00]: AMD k10 was already in and reports everything -- only the fan stuff was missing, which (normall) the ITE (it87) chip is used for. Current IT87xx chips provide fan, temperature and voltage readings. If you built the drivers as modules, are you sure everything (it87 and the relevant i2c drivers) is loaded? Check the kernel log for any error messages. The version of lm_sensors, which is in portage reports here driver to be written but the svn-version of lm_sensors seems to support it Support for a specific sensor chip is provided by the kernel driver, not by lm_sensors. sensor-detect only provides advice based on the situation at the time it was released; if a more recent revision says that the chip is supported, it means that a driver for the chip now exists, *not* that the driver provided by the current kernel supports it. However, according to this page the it8720F chip seems to be supported starting from kernel 2.6.29, so kernel version is not your problem. http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Devices andrea The chip on the board is a ITE IT8721. An excerpt of the top part of /usr/src/linux-2.36.6.2/drivers/hwmon/it87.c * * Supports: IT8705F Super I/O chip w/LPC interface *IT8712F Super I/O chip w/LPC interface *IT8716F Super I/O chip w/LPC interface *IT8718F Super I/O chip w/LPC interface *IT8720F Super I/O chip w/LPC interface *IT8726F Super I/O chip w/LPC interface *Sis950 A clone of the IT8705F * Therefore the chip is unsupported and the kernel is the source of the problem according to your explanations. mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] FAN-Speed readout/control ???
On Sunday 12 December 2010 14:06:33 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: IT8721 So look at the lm sensors site: http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Devices ITEIT8721F, IT8758Eyesit87LPC2.6.37 or standalone driver (2010-10-12) We have a datasheet for the IT8721F. Different from previous IT87xxF chips (12 mV ADC instead of 16 mV, amongst other.) Two requests ( Jae Sammy, Virgil Gheorghiu.) The IT8758E was reported to have the same device ID, so hopefully they are fully compatible. Support added by Jean Delvare, please test the standalone driver and report. you could try this: http://khali.linux-fr.org/devel/misc/it87/it87.c google. 2minutes. It really is that simple.
[gentoo-user] Re: ebuild creation (python-2.7) - please help
On 12/12/2010 03:33 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, after switching to Python-2.7 an ebuild of myself fails. I'm trying to write an ebuild for dev-python/pyparsing- My attemp fails with 'setup.py' not found. Have you tried using the -d flag with emerge? The debugging output may tell you where it's looking for setup.py. Also, have you run python-updater to re-install all of your python packages using python2.7?
Re: [gentoo-user] FAN-Speed readout/control ???
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com [10-12-12 14:52]: On Sunday 12 December 2010 14:06:33 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: IT8721 So look at the lm sensors site: http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Devices ITEIT8721F, IT8758Eyesit87LPC2.6.37 or standalone driver (2010-10-12) We have a datasheet for the IT8721F. Different from previous IT87xxF chips (12 mV ADC instead of 16 mV, amongst other.) Two requests ( Jae Sammy, Virgil Gheorghiu.) The IT8758E was reported to have the same device ID, so hopefully they are fully compatible. Support added by Jean Delvare, please test the standalone driver and report. you could try this: http://khali.linux-fr.org/devel/misc/it87/it87.c google. 2minutes. It really is that simple. Instead I backported the i87.c driver from the upcoming linux 2.36.7.rc5 itree into my linux-2.6.36.6 kernel. After recompiling i and a reboot it loads well but dmesg shows that there were conflicting ACPI areas then. The driver itsself suggests to use the atk0110-acpi driver instead the it87 one. So I will do that and give the BIOS the full control over the fans. Best regards mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] FAN-Speed readout/control ???
On Sunday 12 December 2010 14:57:26 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com [10-12-12 14:52]: On Sunday 12 December 2010 14:06:33 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: IT8721 So look at the lm sensors site: http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Devices ITEIT8721F, IT8758Eyesit87LPC2.6.37 or standalone driver (2010-10-12) We have a datasheet for the IT8721F. Different from previous IT87xxF chips (12 mV ADC instead of 16 mV, amongst other.) Two requests ( Jae Sammy, Virgil Gheorghiu.) The IT8758E was reported to have the same device ID, so hopefully they are fully compatible. Support added by Jean Delvare, please test the standalone driver and report. you could try this: http://khali.linux-fr.org/devel/misc/it87/it87.c google. 2minutes. It really is that simple. Instead I backported the i87.c driver from the upcoming linux 2.36.7.rc5 itree into my linux-2.6.36.6 kernel. After recompiling i and a reboot it loads well but dmesg shows that there were conflicting ACPI areas then. The driver itsself suggests to use the atk0110-acpi driver instead the it87 one. So I will do that and give the BIOS the full control over the fans. I did the same and it is working really well... apart from an annoying cpu-fan error at the boot, because the fan only start turning 1-2 minutes after turning the box on. k10temp-pci-00c3 Adapter: PCI adapter temp1: +38.1°C (high = +70.0°C, crit = +90.0°C) atk0110-acpi-0 Adapter: ACPI interface Vcore Voltage: +1.00 V (min = +0.85 V, max = +1.70 V) +3.3 Voltage: +3.39 V (min = +2.97 V, max = +3.63 V) +5 Voltage: +5.08 V (min = +4.50 V, max = +5.50 V) +12 Voltage: +12.52 V (min = +10.20 V, max = +13.80 V) CPU FAN Speed: 565 RPM (min = 600 RPM) CHASSIS FAN Speed: 1171 RPM (min = 600 RPM) CHASSIS FAN 2 Speed: 698 RPM (min = 600 RPM) CPU Temperature: +36.0°C (high = +60.0°C, crit = +95.0°C) MB Temperature: +29.0°C (high = +45.0°C, crit = +75.0°C)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ebuild creation (python-2.7) - please help
On 12/12/10 14:52:28, walt wrote: On 12/12/2010 03:33 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, after switching to Python-2.7 an ebuild of myself fails. I'm trying to write an ebuild for dev-python/pyparsing- My attemp fails with 'setup.py' not found. Have you tried using the -d flag with emerge? The debugging output may tell you where it's looking for setup.py. Thanks, I'll try that. Also, have you run python-updater to re-install all of your python packages using python2.7? Yes, and this one was the last one I couldn't fix until now. Helmut.
Re: [gentoo-user] FAN-Speed readout/control ???
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com [10-12-12 15:16]: On Sunday 12 December 2010 14:57:26 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com [10-12-12 14:52]: On Sunday 12 December 2010 14:06:33 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: IT8721 So look at the lm sensors site: http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Devices ITEIT8721F, IT8758Eyesit87LPC2.6.37 or standalone driver (2010-10-12) We have a datasheet for the IT8721F. Different from previous IT87xxF chips (12 mV ADC instead of 16 mV, amongst other.) Two requests ( Jae Sammy, Virgil Gheorghiu.) The IT8758E was reported to have the same device ID, so hopefully they are fully compatible. Support added by Jean Delvare, please test the standalone driver and report. you could try this: http://khali.linux-fr.org/devel/misc/it87/it87.c google. 2minutes. It really is that simple. Instead I backported the i87.c driver from the upcoming linux 2.36.7.rc5 itree into my linux-2.6.36.6 kernel. After recompiling i and a reboot it loads well but dmesg shows that there were conflicting ACPI areas then. The driver itsself suggests to use the atk0110-acpi driver instead the it87 one. So I will do that and give the BIOS the full control over the fans. I did the same and it is working really well... apart from an annoying cpu-fan error at the boot, because the fan only start turning 1-2 minutes after turning the box on. k10temp-pci-00c3 Adapter: PCI adapter temp1: +38.1°C (high = +70.0°C, crit = +90.0°C) atk0110-acpi-0 Adapter: ACPI interface Vcore Voltage: +1.00 V (min = +0.85 V, max = +1.70 V) +3.3 Voltage: +3.39 V (min = +2.97 V, max = +3.63 V) +5 Voltage: +5.08 V (min = +4.50 V, max = +5.50 V) +12 Voltage: +12.52 V (min = +10.20 V, max = +13.80 V) CPU FAN Speed: 565 RPM (min = 600 RPM) CHASSIS FAN Speed: 1171 RPM (min = 600 RPM) CHASSIS FAN 2 Speed: 698 RPM (min = 600 RPM) CPU Temperature: +36.0°C (high = +60.0°C, crit = +95.0°C) MB Temperature: +29.0°C (high = +45.0°C, crit = +75.0°C) Hi Volker, THAT'S INTERESTING!! What motherboard do you use and may be you can mail me your kernel config in a personal mail ? And: What exactly do you enable/disable in the BIOS of you board? When I try to enable fan control via bios I got a warning and loud beeps from the BIOS *AND* the fan do not start... When disabling fan control, the fan starts nearly instantly (acoustic-wise it is not that a problem ... the CPU fan works silently...). But what is the reason for the ACPI area conflict???
Re: [gentoo-user] FAN-Speed readout/control ???
On Sunday 12 December 2010 15:28:26 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com [10-12-12 15:16]: On Sunday 12 December 2010 14:57:26 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com [10-12-12 14:52]: On Sunday 12 December 2010 14:06:33 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: IT8721 So look at the lm sensors site: http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Devices ITEIT8721F, IT8758Eyesit87LPC2.6.37 or standalone driver (2010-10-12) We have a datasheet for the IT8721F. Different from previous IT87xxF chips (12 mV ADC instead of 16 mV, amongst other.) Two requests ( Jae Sammy, Virgil Gheorghiu.) The IT8758E was reported to have the same device ID, so hopefully they are fully compatible. Support added by Jean Delvare, please test the standalone driver and report. you could try this: http://khali.linux-fr.org/devel/misc/it87/it87.c google. 2minutes. It really is that simple. Instead I backported the i87.c driver from the upcoming linux 2.36.7.rc5 itree into my linux-2.6.36.6 kernel. After recompiling i and a reboot it loads well but dmesg shows that there were conflicting ACPI areas then. The driver itsself suggests to use the atk0110-acpi driver instead the it87 one. So I will do that and give the BIOS the full control over the fans. I did the same and it is working really well... apart from an annoying cpu-fan error at the boot, because the fan only start turning 1-2 minutes after turning the box on. k10temp-pci-00c3 Adapter: PCI adapter temp1: +38.1°C (high = +70.0°C, crit = +90.0°C) atk0110-acpi-0 Adapter: ACPI interface Vcore Voltage: +1.00 V (min = +0.85 V, max = +1.70 V) +3.3 Voltage: +3.39 V (min = +2.97 V, max = +3.63 V) +5 Voltage: +5.08 V (min = +4.50 V, max = +5.50 V) +12 Voltage: +12.52 V (min = +10.20 V, max = +13.80 V) CPU FAN Speed: 565 RPM (min = 600 RPM) CHASSIS FAN Speed: 1171 RPM (min = 600 RPM) CHASSIS FAN 2 Speed: 698 RPM (min = 600 RPM) CPU Temperature: +36.0°C (high = +60.0°C, crit = +95.0°C) MB Temperature: +29.0°C (high = +45.0°C, crit = +75.0°C) Hi Volker, THAT'S INTERESTING!! What motherboard do you use and may be you can mail me your kernel config in a personal mail ? M4A79XTD EVO config will come per pm. And: What exactly do you enable/disable in the BIOS of you board? on: acc, c1e, usb, fan control (setting to optimal), ahci modus, on on keyboard/space bar, some other stuff. Off onboard sound, firewire, serial and all the other stuff I never use... oh and PNP OS, if I remember correctly. When I try to enable fan control via bios I got a warning and loud beeps from the BIOS *AND* the fan do not start... yeah and if you ignore that it should start rotating after a short while. The starting volts at room temperature are too low, but as soon as the cpu heats up, the volts increase and the fan spins. But what is the reason for the ACPI area conflict??? that it87blabla can be accessed by acpi stuff but the it87 driver does not know about it - or something like that. Read about it a few month ago and forgot everything.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Firefox 3.6.12 problem?
Am 09.12.10 15:32, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 09.12.2010 12:07, schrieb Peter Humphrey: Hello list, Sorry about the noise, but is it just me or has version 3.6.12 of Mozilla Firerox lost its Back and Forward arrow buttons? Here I just get a drop-down box with a list of visited pages. Perversely enough, although I use the keyboard much more than the mouse, this change has annoyed me enough to cause me to emerge -e firefox, which took hours, to see if that would bring the arrows back. No dice. Probably an issue with your desktop theme. Try to switch it and maybe log-out/log-in. These buttons are not part of a desktop theme afaik. Try to install a different firefox theme from https://addons.mozilla.org . hth mk
[gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
Hello, I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. Thanks, -- Valmor
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On 12/12/2010 05:59 AM, Mick wrote: [snip] Guys I'm glad that my pointers helped you get it going - but I have to say that soon with xorg-server-1.9 becoming stable HAL and its xml configuration files will be a thing of the past. Still, you have the satisfaction of cracking this one! :-) Looking forward to xorg-server-1.9. Thanks, -- Valmor
[gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild will not run at all
I have a fair number of preserved-libs, but it will not run at all and gives the rather strange message: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-tex/mplib:0. (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild) Now I have no such package and an eix seems to indicate that there is no such, so how do I get this rebuild going again? Thanks in advance for all your help. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild will not run at all
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:48 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I have a fair number of preserved-libs, but it will not run at all and gives the rather strange message: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-tex/mplib:0. (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild) Now I have no such package and an eix seems to indicate that there is no such, so how do I get this rebuild going again? Thanks in advance for all your help. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com Probably searching for packages that depend on mplib, (equery) then emerge -C them (it's what I'd probably do - depends...) then re-emerge them if you still use them? Note that I'd go back to finding what members of the world file need all this stuff and emerge that with -DuN, maybe even doing a -depclean after the emerge -C. It's all a guess though. Seems like this sort of thing happens when a package gets dumped in an upgrade but somehow the ebuilds or package manager don't get updated or just don't work perfectly. Again, all a guess but I can usually figure it out looking at equery output, etc. Good luck, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Gigabyte and controlling fans
=== On Sun, 12/12, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: === a) building the sensor stuff into the kernel is stupid b) yes === However, it seems to me there is a trend that drivers are not contained so much in add-on packages, as before, but are getting into the main kernel tree. I think the development federation enabled by git is starting to effect this more. For example, my VFD display driver that used to come from lirc is now in the kernel source tree. Many lm_sensors drivers are now in the kernel tree, Even VMware guest drivers are now in the kernel tree. So the potential for clashes is minimizing. But I agree it would be better to build those drivers as modules, in any case. -- Keith Dart -- -- ~ Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz public key: ID: 19017044 http://www.dartworks.biz/ =
Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild will not run at all
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:48 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I have a fair number of preserved-libs, but it will not run at all and gives the rather strange message: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-tex/mplib:0. (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild) Now I have no such package and an eix seems to indicate that there is no such, so how do I get this rebuild going again? Thanks in advance for all your help. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com Probably searching for packages that depend on mplib, (equery) then emerge -C them (it's what I'd probably do - depends...) then re-emerge them if you still use them? Note that I'd go back to finding what members of the world file need all this stuff and emerge that with -DuN, maybe even doing a -depclean after the emerge -C. It's all a guess though. Seems like this sort of thing happens when a package gets dumped in an upgrade but somehow the ebuilds or package manager don't get updated or just don't work perfectly. Again, all a guess but I can usually figure it out looking at equery output, etc. Well, there was a package, but no ebuild, so I deleted the package and its going, but someone broke something. I wish you could not delete an ebuild if you have the package, or it would put it somewhere to prevent this kind of thing. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] FAN-Speed readout/control ???
=== On Sun, 12/12, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: === that it87blabla can be accessed by acpi stuff but the it87 driver does not know about it - or something like that. Read about it a few month ago and forgot everything. === On Asus boards try first the Asus ACPI driver, asus_atk0110 It seems more sensors are being made available through ACPI interfaces, but many drivers still use direct access to the chip. -- Keith Dart -- -- ~ Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz public key: ID: 19017044 http://www.dartworks.biz/ =
Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild will not run at all
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:35 on Sunday 12 December 2010, cov...@ccs.covici.com did opine thusly: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:48 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I have a fair number of preserved-libs, but it will not run at all and gives the rather strange message: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-tex/mplib:0. (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild) Now I have no such package and an eix seems to indicate that there is no such, so how do I get this rebuild going again? Thanks in advance for all your help. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com Probably searching for packages that depend on mplib, (equery) then emerge -C them (it's what I'd probably do - depends...) then re-emerge them if you still use them? Note that I'd go back to finding what members of the world file need all this stuff and emerge that with -DuN, maybe even doing a -depclean after the emerge -C. It's all a guess though. Seems like this sort of thing happens when a package gets dumped in an upgrade but somehow the ebuilds or package manager don't get updated or just don't work perfectly. Again, all a guess but I can usually figure it out looking at equery output, etc. Well, there was a package, but no ebuild, so I deleted the package and its going, but someone broke something. I wish you could not delete an ebuild if you have the package, or it would put it somewhere to prevent this kind of thing. That will make portage store gigantic numbers of old and since upgraded versions just in case maybe you might need it perhaps. Sounds like a lot of pain for no gain. Sounds like exactly the kind of thing any decent dev will reject. Besides, you can always get the old ebuild back from the Attic, or you could copy it somewhere safe from /var/db/pkg/ before you delete it. Mark has the correct solution. mplib is not needed and was deleted. However, it's in preserved-rebuild as being used by something. In all likelyhood that something uses mplib purely optionally and you should just rebuild that something. You provided no output so no-one here knows how to fix your problem. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:51 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: Hello, I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. Chuck all that net.* bullshit out the window and use wicd instead. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild will not run at all
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:35 on Sunday 12 December 2010, cov...@ccs.covici.com did opine thusly: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:48 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I have a fair number of preserved-libs, but it will not run at all and gives the rather strange message: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-tex/mplib:0. (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild) Now I have no such package and an eix seems to indicate that there is no such, so how do I get this rebuild going again? Thanks in advance for all your help. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com Probably searching for packages that depend on mplib, (equery) then emerge -C them (it's what I'd probably do - depends...) then re-emerge them if you still use them? Note that I'd go back to finding what members of the world file need all this stuff and emerge that with -DuN, maybe even doing a -depclean after the emerge -C. It's all a guess though. Seems like this sort of thing happens when a package gets dumped in an upgrade but somehow the ebuilds or package manager don't get updated or just don't work perfectly. Again, all a guess but I can usually figure it out looking at equery output, etc. Well, there was a package, but no ebuild, so I deleted the package and its going, but someone broke something. I wish you could not delete an ebuild if you have the package, or it would put it somewhere to prevent this kind of thing. That will make portage store gigantic numbers of old and since upgraded versions just in case maybe you might need it perhaps. Sounds like a lot of pain for no gain. Sounds like exactly the kind of thing any decent dev will reject. Besides, you can always get the old ebuild back from the Attic, or you could copy it somewhere safe from /var/db/pkg/ before you delete it. Mark has the correct solution. mplib is not needed and was deleted. However, it's in preserved-rebuild as being used by something. In all likelyhood that something uses mplib purely optionally and you should just rebuild that something. You provided no output so no-one here knows how to fix your problem. There was no output, but what I sent and the only thing depended on mplib was the package with no ebuild, so I guess its fixed. But something seems wrong here that you should have a package and the ebuild would go away like that. I am not sure of the best solution. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On 12/12/2010 03:54 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:51 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: Hello, I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. Chuck all that net.* bullshit out the window and use wicd instead. Okay I am new to this wireless stuff. If I do - emerge -vp wicd I get These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] net-wireless/wireless-tools-29 USE=nls -multicall 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/dbus-python-0.83.0-r1 USE=-doc -examples -test 483 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/urwid-0.9.9.1 USE=-examples 233 kB [ebuild N] x11-misc/ktsuss-1.4 273 kB [ebuild N] net-misc/wicd-1.7.0 USE=X gtk ncurses nls pm-utils (-ioctl) -libnotify 402 kB Total: 5 packages (5 new), Size of downloads: 1,390 kB which will install wireless-tools. This does not mean I need to use it to configure my wireless net right? I am asking this because I am using wpa_supplicant and in the /etc/conf.d/net config file, I can only use one or the other. Since wicd deals with both wired and wireless, should I also get rid of ifplugd? Thanks, -- Valmor
Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild will not run at all
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:10 on Sunday 12 December 2010, cov...@ccs.covici.com did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:35 on Sunday 12 December 2010, cov...@ccs.covici.com did opine thusly: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:48 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I have a fair number of preserved-libs, but it will not run at all and gives the rather strange message: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-tex/mplib:0. (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild) Now I have no such package and an eix seems to indicate that there is no such, so how do I get this rebuild going again? Thanks in advance for all your help. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com Probably searching for packages that depend on mplib, (equery) then emerge -C them (it's what I'd probably do - depends...) then re-emerge them if you still use them? Note that I'd go back to finding what members of the world file need all this stuff and emerge that with -DuN, maybe even doing a -depclean after the emerge -C. It's all a guess though. Seems like this sort of thing happens when a package gets dumped in an upgrade but somehow the ebuilds or package manager don't get updated or just don't work perfectly. Again, all a guess but I can usually figure it out looking at equery output, etc. Well, there was a package, but no ebuild, so I deleted the package and its going, but someone broke something. I wish you could not delete an ebuild if you have the package, or it would put it somewhere to prevent this kind of thing. That will make portage store gigantic numbers of old and since upgraded versions just in case maybe you might need it perhaps. Sounds like a lot of pain for no gain. Sounds like exactly the kind of thing any decent dev will reject. Besides, you can always get the old ebuild back from the Attic, or you could copy it somewhere safe from /var/db/pkg/ before you delete it. Mark has the correct solution. mplib is not needed and was deleted. However, it's in preserved-rebuild as being used by something. In all likelyhood that something uses mplib purely optionally and you should just rebuild that something. You provided no output so no-one here knows how to fix your problem. There was no output, but what I sent and the only thing depended on mplib was the package with no ebuild, so I guess its fixed. But something seems wrong here that you should have a package and the ebuild would go away like that. I am not sure of the best solution. But you *don't* have the package, or it didn't uninstall cleanly. It's not in the tree, it's not in eix, so it no longer exists. There would have been at least 30 days notice in $PORTDIR/profiles/package.mask that it was going away, and emerge gives output that there is a package present without an ebuild. Or maybe you deleted the ebuild yourself out of a local overlay. There's lots of ways this can happen. preserved-rebuild tracks that some part of mplib is bieng used somehow, and it told you. Now you as the human being get to decide how to proceed because the software cannot decide for you. The software is working as designed. What else did you expect it to do? One thing that is NOT a solution is to not delete the ebuild. That results in your tree being out of sync with upstream. That is not allowed. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:34 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: On 12/12/2010 03:54 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:51 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: Hello, I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. Chuck all that net.* bullshit out the window and use wicd instead. Okay I am new to this wireless stuff. If I do - emerge -vp wicd I get These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] net-wireless/wireless-tools-29 USE=nls -multicall 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/dbus-python-0.83.0-r1 USE=-doc -examples -test 483 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/urwid-0.9.9.1 USE=-examples 233 kB [ebuild N] x11-misc/ktsuss-1.4 273 kB [ebuild N] net-misc/wicd-1.7.0 USE=X gtk ncurses nls pm-utils (-ioctl) -libnotify 402 kB Total: 5 packages (5 new), Size of downloads: 1,390 kB which will install wireless-tools. This does not mean I need to use it to configure my wireless net right? You are going to take the entirety of net.* except net.lo as installed by baselayout/openrc/whatever and get rid of it. That stuff never worked right for anything except servers with fixed IPs I am asking this because I am using wpa_supplicant and in the /etc/conf.d/net config file, I can only use one or the other. Discard /etc/conf.d/net That's part of the thing you are getting rid of Since wicd deals with both wired and wireless, should I also get rid of ifplugd? Yes. Just following the wicd docs and it will all work just fine -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild will not run at all
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:10 on Sunday 12 December 2010, cov...@ccs.covici.com did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:35 on Sunday 12 December 2010, cov...@ccs.covici.com did opine thusly: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:48 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I have a fair number of preserved-libs, but it will not run at all and gives the rather strange message: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-tex/mplib:0. (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild) Now I have no such package and an eix seems to indicate that there is no such, so how do I get this rebuild going again? Thanks in advance for all your help. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com Probably searching for packages that depend on mplib, (equery) then emerge -C them (it's what I'd probably do - depends...) then re-emerge them if you still use them? Note that I'd go back to finding what members of the world file need all this stuff and emerge that with -DuN, maybe even doing a -depclean after the emerge -C. It's all a guess though. Seems like this sort of thing happens when a package gets dumped in an upgrade but somehow the ebuilds or package manager don't get updated or just don't work perfectly. Again, all a guess but I can usually figure it out looking at equery output, etc. Well, there was a package, but no ebuild, so I deleted the package and its going, but someone broke something. I wish you could not delete an ebuild if you have the package, or it would put it somewhere to prevent this kind of thing. That will make portage store gigantic numbers of old and since upgraded versions just in case maybe you might need it perhaps. Sounds like a lot of pain for no gain. Sounds like exactly the kind of thing any decent dev will reject. Besides, you can always get the old ebuild back from the Attic, or you could copy it somewhere safe from /var/db/pkg/ before you delete it. Mark has the correct solution. mplib is not needed and was deleted. However, it's in preserved-rebuild as being used by something. In all likelyhood that something uses mplib purely optionally and you should just rebuild that something. You provided no output so no-one here knows how to fix your problem. There was no output, but what I sent and the only thing depended on mplib was the package with no ebuild, so I guess its fixed. But something seems wrong here that you should have a package and the ebuild would go away like that. I am not sure of the best solution. But you *don't* have the package, or it didn't uninstall cleanly. It's not in the tree, it's not in eix, so it no longer exists. There would have been at least 30 days notice in $PORTDIR/profiles/package.mask that it was going away, and emerge gives output that there is a package present without an ebuild. Or maybe you deleted the ebuild yourself out of a local overlay. There's lots of ways this can happen. preserved-rebuild tracks that some part of mplib is bieng used somehow, and it told you. Now you as the human being get to decide how to proceed because the software cannot decide for you. The software is working as designed. What else did you expect it to do? One thing that is NOT a solution is to not delete the ebuild. That results in your tree being out of sync with upstream. That is not allowed. covici, It strikes me that maybe I wasn't totally clear about this sort of fix. My bad. I _think_ that if you had a totally up to date system and a recent set of ebuilds on the system then likely none of them would depend on mplib. (Assuming it's been dropped for some reason.) The issue you need to sort of get your head around is that you are searching from some _older_, currently installed package that depends on this dropped library. Once you know the name of that package, if you emerge -C it then the system no longer requires it and complaints should go away. Assuming they do then I would likely do an emerge -p --depclean, which gets the system clean without the program you want, then I would emerge the newest version of that program which doesn't require mplib. Again, it's sort of an Easter Egg Hunt getting to all the older programs that required the library that's been removed. There may be more than one program that used it. One other possibility, I think, is that everything is OK with your programs but some mplib executable (possibly a *.so file or something) was left laying around and now revdep-rebuild is complaining that it cannot fix it. That one is
Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild will not run at all
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:10 on Sunday 12 December 2010, cov...@ccs.covici.com did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:35 on Sunday 12 December 2010, cov...@ccs.covici.com did opine thusly: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:48 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I have a fair number of preserved-libs, but it will not run at all and gives the rather strange message: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-tex/mplib:0. (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild) Now I have no such package and an eix seems to indicate that there is no such, so how do I get this rebuild going again? Thanks in advance for all your help. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com Probably searching for packages that depend on mplib, (equery) then emerge -C them (it's what I'd probably do - depends...) then re-emerge them if you still use them? Note that I'd go back to finding what members of the world file need all this stuff and emerge that with -DuN, maybe even doing a -depclean after the emerge -C. It's all a guess though. Seems like this sort of thing happens when a package gets dumped in an upgrade but somehow the ebuilds or package manager don't get updated or just don't work perfectly. Again, all a guess but I can usually figure it out looking at equery output, etc. Well, there was a package, but no ebuild, so I deleted the package and its going, but someone broke something. I wish you could not delete an ebuild if you have the package, or it would put it somewhere to prevent this kind of thing. That will make portage store gigantic numbers of old and since upgraded versions just in case maybe you might need it perhaps. Sounds like a lot of pain for no gain. Sounds like exactly the kind of thing any decent dev will reject. Besides, you can always get the old ebuild back from the Attic, or you could copy it somewhere safe from /var/db/pkg/ before you delete it. Mark has the correct solution. mplib is not needed and was deleted. However, it's in preserved-rebuild as being used by something. In all likelyhood that something uses mplib purely optionally and you should just rebuild that something. You provided no output so no-one here knows how to fix your problem. There was no output, but what I sent and the only thing depended on mplib was the package with no ebuild, so I guess its fixed. But something seems wrong here that you should have a package and the ebuild would go away like that. I am not sure of the best solution. But you *don't* have the package, or it didn't uninstall cleanly. It's not in the tree, it's not in eix, so it no longer exists. There would have been at least 30 days notice in $PORTDIR/profiles/package.mask that it was going away, and emerge gives output that there is a package present without an ebuild. Or maybe you deleted the ebuild yourself out of a local overlay. There's lots of ways this can happen. preserved-rebuild tracks that some part of mplib is bieng used somehow, and it told you. Now you as the human being get to decide how to proceed because the software cannot decide for you. The software is working as designed. What else did you expect it to do? One thing that is NOT a solution is to not delete the ebuild. That results in your tree being out of sync with upstream. That is not allowed. I agree that the tree should be in sync, but how come I was able to unmerge the package? It must keep the information somewhere -- and it didn't tell me anything about having packages with no ebuilds -- that would have been OK. Maybe that is all I would need, but it didn't happen. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild will not run at all
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:56 on Monday 13 December 2010, cov...@ccs.covici.com did opine thusly: One thing that is NOT a solution is to not delete the ebuild. That results in your tree being out of sync with upstream. That is not allowed. I agree that the tree should be in sync, but how come I was able to unmerge the package? It must keep the information somewhere -- and it didn't tell me anything about having packages with no ebuilds -- that would have been OK. Maybe that is all I would need, but it didn't happen. Because portage noted what files it installed and an unmerge consists only of deleting everything in the list. You do not require an ebuild to unmerge something - that would lead to the undesirable situation of needing to delete something that cannot be deleted As for no output, maybe you just forgot the -v switch. Or maybe you mail everything to yourself as an elog and deleted it. I dunno. Portage did nothing wrong andyou are getting worked up about nothing. There is nothing to be concerned about, nothing to change, nothign to be worried about. All of this is perfectly normal and just one of those things that happens that you need to deal with. Like kids. They are not supposed to spill milk on the floor. But they do. So dad goes and fetches a mop. End of story. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild will not run at all
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:10 on Sunday 12 December 2010, cov...@ccs.covici.com did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:35 on Sunday 12 December 2010, cov...@ccs.covici.com did opine thusly: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:48 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I have a fair number of preserved-libs, but it will not run at all and gives the rather strange message: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-tex/mplib:0. (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild) Now I have no such package and an eix seems to indicate that there is no such, so how do I get this rebuild going again? Thanks in advance for all your help. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com Probably searching for packages that depend on mplib, (equery) then emerge -C them (it's what I'd probably do - depends...) then re-emerge them if you still use them? Note that I'd go back to finding what members of the world file need all this stuff and emerge that with -DuN, maybe even doing a -depclean after the emerge -C. It's all a guess though. Seems like this sort of thing happens when a package gets dumped in an upgrade but somehow the ebuilds or package manager don't get updated or just don't work perfectly. Again, all a guess but I can usually figure it out looking at equery output, etc. Well, there was a package, but no ebuild, so I deleted the package and its going, but someone broke something. I wish you could not delete an ebuild if you have the package, or it would put it somewhere to prevent this kind of thing. That will make portage store gigantic numbers of old and since upgraded versions just in case maybe you might need it perhaps. Sounds like a lot of pain for no gain. Sounds like exactly the kind of thing any decent dev will reject. Besides, you can always get the old ebuild back from the Attic, or you could copy it somewhere safe from /var/db/pkg/ before you delete it. Mark has the correct solution. mplib is not needed and was deleted. However, it's in preserved-rebuild as being used by something. In all likelyhood that something uses mplib purely optionally and you should just rebuild that something. You provided no output so no-one here knows how to fix your problem. There was no output, but what I sent and the only thing depended on mplib was the package with no ebuild, so I guess its fixed. But something seems wrong here that you should have a package and the ebuild would go away like that. I am not sure of the best solution. But you *don't* have the package, or it didn't uninstall cleanly. It's not in the tree, it's not in eix, so it no longer exists. There would have been at least 30 days notice in $PORTDIR/profiles/package.mask that it was going away, and emerge gives output that there is a package present without an ebuild. Or maybe you deleted the ebuild yourself out of a local overlay. There's lots of ways this can happen. preserved-rebuild tracks that some part of mplib is bieng used somehow, and it told you. Now you as the human being get to decide how to proceed because the software cannot decide for you. The software is working as designed. What else did you expect it to do? One thing that is NOT a solution is to not delete the ebuild. That results in your tree being out of sync with upstream. That is not allowed. covici, It strikes me that maybe I wasn't totally clear about this sort of fix. My bad. I _think_ that if you had a totally up to date system and a recent set of ebuilds on the system then likely none of them would depend on mplib. (Assuming it's been dropped for some reason.) The issue you need to sort of get your head around is that you are searching from some _older_, currently installed package that depends on this dropped library. Once you know the name of that package, if you emerge -C it then the system no longer requires it and complaints should go away. Assuming they do then I would likely do an emerge -p --depclean, which gets the system clean without the program you want, then I would emerge the newest version of that program which doesn't require mplib. Again, it's sort of an Easter Egg Hunt getting to all the older programs that required the library that's been removed. There may be more than one program that used it. One other possibility, I think, is that everything is OK with your
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Sunday 12 December 2010 17:10:10 Valmor de Almeida wrote: Looking forward to xorg-server-1.9. So why not install it? It's been running here for three months without a single problem. Just add x11-base/xorg-server to /etc/portage/package.keywords. Job done. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Firefox 3.6.12 problem?
On Sunday 12 December 2010 16:09:41 Klaus Müller wrote: Try [installing] a different firefox theme from https://addons.mozilla.org But I've already tried a vanilla setup by creating a test user, and separately by moving my own .mozilla directory elsewhere. In neither case did I have any themes installed but I still had no arrow buttons. I've now removed all themes from my standard user and again I have no arrow buttons. Thanks anyway, but this is not a theme problem. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild will not run at all
On Sunday 12 December 2010 21:41:08 Alan McKinnon wrote: One thing that is NOT a solution is to not delete the ebuild. Eh? Not deleting the ebuild is not a solution? Is that what you meant to say? -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gigabyte and controlling fans
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sunday 12 December 2010 05:20:27 Dale wrote: That comes from lm-sensors. Hmmm. Since I have my stuff built into the kernel, can I still use that or would they clash somehow? Also, this is a desktop not a laptop just in case it matters. Dale :-) :-) a) building the sensor stuff into the kernel is stupid b) yes Why is it stupid? I been using Linux for years and have no modules except for nvidia and don't think I ever have either. What difference does it make if it is a module or built in? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On 12/12/2010 07:17 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 12 December 2010 17:10:10 Valmor de Almeida wrote: Looking forward to xorg-server-1.9. So why not install it? It's been running here for three months without a single problem. Just add x11-base/xorg-server to /etc/portage/package.keywords. Job done. Soon after travel; don't need surprises on the road. -- Valmor
[SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On 12/12/2010 04:46 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:34 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: On 12/12/2010 03:54 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:51 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: Hello, I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. Chuck all that net.* bullshit out the window and use wicd instead. Okay I am new to this wireless stuff. If I do - emerge -vp wicd I get These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] net-wireless/wireless-tools-29 USE=nls -multicall 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/dbus-python-0.83.0-r1 USE=-doc -examples -test 483 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/urwid-0.9.9.1 USE=-examples 233 kB [ebuild N] x11-misc/ktsuss-1.4 273 kB [ebuild N] net-misc/wicd-1.7.0 USE=X gtk ncurses nls pm-utils (-ioctl) -libnotify 402 kB Total: 5 packages (5 new), Size of downloads: 1,390 kB which will install wireless-tools. This does not mean I need to use it to configure my wireless net right? You are going to take the entirety of net.* except net.lo as installed by baselayout/openrc/whatever and get rid of it. That stuff never worked right for anything except servers with fixed IPs I am asking this because I am using wpa_supplicant and in the /etc/conf.d/net config file, I can only use one or the other. Discard /etc/conf.d/net That's part of the thing you are getting rid of Since wicd deals with both wired and wireless, should I also get rid of ifplugd? Yes. Just following the wicd docs and it will all work just fine Thank you very much. I don't know how this magic is happening since I had posted another message in this list on problems with wpa_supplicant and frequent dropouts during connection. I am now sending this e-mail with a wireless connection. For the record, what I had to do was: emerge --unmerge ifplugd wpa_supplicant rm /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf rm /etc/conf.d/net touch /etc/conf.d/net rm /etc/init.d/net.eth0 rm /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 emerge -av wicd emerge wicd /etc/init.d/wicd start rc-update add wicd boot reboot and check wired connection. disconnect, turn on wireless wicd-client -n Thanks, -- Valmor
[SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant connect-disconnect loop
On 12/12/2010 05:55 AM, Mick wrote: On Sunday 12 December 2010 02:07:02 Valmor de Almeida wrote: On 12/11/2010 08:35 PM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: To add to the above from the message logs, wlan0 deauthenticates from the AP by local choice (reason=3) If you are getting these disconnections even with WPA/2 encryption disabled then this is probably related to a bug on the driver, which falls over itself when running with wpa_supplicant. There are reports in google about it and a suggested fix is to disable 11n and 5.0GHz: http://www.jpdw.org/blog/intel-wireless-broken-ubuntu-904 Run modinfo for your driver and find the parameters that control other than 802.11g modes and disable them by creating and adding them to a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ for your driver if it's not already there. Alternatively, see if you can disable any modes other than 802.11g at your AP and test to find out if this resolves the problem for now. HTH. Solved and saved by wicd! I am now sending this e-mail with my wireless connection. Don't know how this magic happens but all is fine after the net stuff from baselayout was thrown out the window and wicd installed as suggested by Alan on another e-mail thread. I even get the wireless LED working. My /var/log/messages is clean, etc. Great. Thanks. Since wpa_supplicant is used by wicd the problem must be either the way /etc/conf.d/net is handling the network setup or my ignorance on how to configure wpa_supplicant by hand. The iwlagn driver is good. -- Valmor
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On Monday 13 December 2010 07:05:20 Valmor de Almeida wrote: On 12/12/2010 04:46 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:34 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: On 12/12/2010 03:54 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:51 on Sunday 12 December 2010, Valmor de Almeida did opine thusly: Hello, I would like to have net.wlan0 started only when the wireless card is switched on. I am using ifplugd for starting net.eth0 when an ethernet cable is plugged in. Is there a similar utility for net.wlan0? Ideally so that it is configurable in conjunction with ifplugd. Chuck all that net.* bullshit out the window and use wicd instead. Okay I am new to this wireless stuff. If I do - emerge -vp wicd I get These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] net-wireless/wireless-tools-29 USE=nls -multicall 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/dbus-python-0.83.0-r1 USE=-doc -examples -test 483 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/urwid-0.9.9.1 USE=-examples 233 kB [ebuild N] x11-misc/ktsuss-1.4 273 kB [ebuild N] net-misc/wicd-1.7.0 USE=X gtk ncurses nls pm-utils (-ioctl) -libnotify 402 kB Total: 5 packages (5 new), Size of downloads: 1,390 kB which will install wireless-tools. This does not mean I need to use it to configure my wireless net right? You are going to take the entirety of net.* except net.lo as installed by baselayout/openrc/whatever and get rid of it. That stuff never worked right for anything except servers with fixed IPs I am asking this because I am using wpa_supplicant and in the /etc/conf.d/net config file, I can only use one or the other. Discard /etc/conf.d/net That's part of the thing you are getting rid of Since wicd deals with both wired and wireless, should I also get rid of ifplugd? Yes. Just following the wicd docs and it will all work just fine Thank you very much. I don't know how this magic is happening since I had posted another message in this list on problems with wpa_supplicant and frequent dropouts during connection. I am now sending this e-mail with a wireless connection. For the record, what I had to do was: emerge --unmerge ifplugd wpa_supplicant rm /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf rm /etc/conf.d/net touch /etc/conf.d/net rm /etc/init.d/net.eth0 rm /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 emerge -av wicd emerge wicd /etc/init.d/wicd start rc-update add wicd boot reboot and check wired connection. disconnect, turn on wireless wicd-client -n Interesting! Can wicd manage encryption WPA/WPA2 without wpa_supplicant? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.