Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?

2010-12-18 Thread Stroller

On 17/12/2010, at 10:56pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 ... an Atom N270 box ... server, but it's a bit slow compared with the other 
 boxes on the 
 network. A big bit, actually - 69 minutes to compile a kernel compared 
 with less than 9 minutes on this workstation.

9 minutes!?!? I'm flabbergasted. The machines I have around here, I consider 1 
hour to compile a kernel pretty good. Actually I'm in the process of migrating 
to newer hardware, but I haven't tested kernel compilation times.

Nevertheless: it's a server. Open a `tmux` session, start it compiling, go 
watch a movie.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia-drivers: Sync problem ???

2010-12-18 Thread Dale

meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

Hi,

For my MSI GT430 (nvidia) graphics card I am using
the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-260.19.29.

But there seems to be something wrong:
When playing videos with faster movements
I see heavy distortions around these parts
of the screen.

Previously I fixed this for another nvidia
card by enabling different sync options
in the nvidia-setting dialog and was happy
that these distortion dont come back, when
I switched to this newer card.

Now: There're back despite my hopes...

I started glxgears and got this output
on the console:

 Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
 approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
 74062 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14812.268 FPS
 77502 frames in 5.0 seconds = 15500.350 FPS
 XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server 
:0.0
 after 57 requests (57 known processed) with 0 events remaining.


The second sentence say, that there is a syncing active and will get
the refresh rate of the monitor (a LCD screen) back. This wouild be
around 60Hz as far as I know.

And then, the measurements show 15500.350 FPS...

Which slightl above 60 Hz

To sync or not to sync, that seems to be the question...

By the way: Distortion can be watched as when using mplayer
as with vlc. I recompiled both just to get sure, but it does
not help. The machine is definetly fast enough to play videos
(AMD Phenom II X6 1090T)

How can I get back the undistorted screen?

Thank you very much in advance for any help !
Best regards,
mcc

   


I would check the log files and see if they shed some light on this.  I 
would check dmesg, messages and Xorg.0.log as well.  The last one may 
show the best clues.  If nothing there points to anything good, I would 
post the xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as attachments.


I have a CPU like yours except 4 core and a little GT-220 card, wimpy 
compared to yours.  What you see about the refresh rates is displayed on 
my machine too.  The last part appears because you hit the close window 
X instead of doing a ctrl c to stop glxgears.  If you start glxgears and 
do a ctrl c to stop it, the last part won't be there.   I mention this 
because that *may* have nothing to do with the problem you are having.  
This is what happens when I run glxgears:


fireball ~ # glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
27770 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5553.918 FPS
9783 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1955.847 FPS
3084 frames in 5.0 seconds = 616.716 FPS
3085 frames in 5.0 seconds = 616.942 FPS
3105 frames in 5.0 seconds = 620.981 FPS
XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server 
:0.0

  after 42 requests (42 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
fireball ~ # glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
14932 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2985.639 FPS
3011 frames in 5.0 seconds = 602.125 FPS
^C
fireball ~ #

The last one was stopped with a ctrl c as you can see.  The first was 
closed by hitting the close window button.


If this doesn't help, at least you know to post the files so we can look 
them over.  Maybe someone will notice something out of place.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Long standing problem of booting thu kvm switch

2010-12-18 Thread Stroller

On 17/12/2010, at 5:58pm, Harry Putnam wrote:
 ...
 ps - You were bragging about the abilities of you KVM switch in the
 past thread... I didn't see it mentioned what switch that is.
 
 Also you mentioned accessing your KVM with a web browser... can you
 enlarge a few details on that?


Let me start by saying that I looked up your KVM and was really impressed by 
it. Yours is the Iogear, right? Not Iomega, I think. I was really impressed 
that yours is all current technology, switching DVI port as well as mic  
speakers, that it uses USB keyboard  mouse.

My current model is a Blackbox KV9408A, back then I was still using my Austin 
Hughes IP-802.

Basically, both are 8-port KVM switches with a framegrabber and some embedded 
Linux built on the same board. So the switch part allows you to manage multiple 
servers, and the framegrabber part allows this to be viewed across the network 
using a VNC client.

I don't KVM at my desktop, I only use my main desktop machine there. The KVM-IP 
resides in the server closet, and can switch between my otherwise-headless 
machines there. It works really well for me, because a lot of my work is (or 
has been, at least) working on Windows PCs for small offices and home users. So 
if I bring in one of their PCs to recover data off it, run chkdisk or reinstall 
Windows, I just shove it in the closet and connect remotely. I don't have to 
cross the room or twist around in my seat to view the machine I'm working on, 
it just appears as a large window on the screen of one of the monitors of my 
desktop PC.

I think this is *really* cool technology. There's something about it that 
appeals to me that I rate it on the same level of killer app as email and 
ssh. I practically fetishise it.

These IP-KVMs cost c £1000 new, but you can pick them up on eBay for a song. I 
paid £100 for the Blackbox and I think c £120 for the Austin Hughes. The 
Blackbox is a little newer, I think, and initially more impressive to use, but 
overall the features of the two are about even. The web-interface of the Austin 
H looks a little dated now (it's a 2003 model), but it has the nifty 
programmable GUI buttons which I mentioned in the previous thread - with them 
you can create single-button shortcuts for any keyboard macro, and it also has 
a full on-screen keyboard for occasional use. I find the lack of that a real 
shortcoming in the Blackbox - this week I was unable to change some BIOS 
settings remotely because my MacBook's keyboard has no page-up / page-down 
keys. However the Blackbox just wins the comparison by a nose because it allows 
you to use any standard VNC client to view the servers - the Austin H requires 
you to use a browser-launched Java viewer. 

I could spend hours writing a comparison between the two products, because 
clearly I'm a fanboi for this technology. The two models do the same job, but 
it's interesting to observe that they have a bunch of implementation 
differences, and these have a range of more or less subtle benefits and 
annoyances. 

The market for these devices is fairly niche, I guess - it's impossible to find 
reviews of them before buying, and hard to learn anything at all about specific 
models, beyond manufacturers' brochures. A manual doesn't really give you much 
of an impression of how it is to actually use a particular KVM-IP. I imagine 
these are sold primarily to datacentres and the enterprise, companies who are 
buying 10 or 100 at a time, that they are serenaded by salesmen, and that the 
admins get to try a demo model, perhaps several, before buying them. I wouldn't 
be surprised if Alan has a few KVM-IPs, or can access his London / Paris / New 
York / Tokyo servers using them; I would be *extremely* interested to know what 
models he uses and what he thinks of them.

The retail price is certainly prohibitive unless you've got a pressing business 
need for a KVM-IP, but as an enthusiast I can easily justify them secondhand. 
For me, bringing customer's PCs home to work on, they have been *so* useful. I 
continue to watch eBay for new listings - the only way to compare a new unit 
with my current one is to try it, and I don't think I'll lose anything on the 
deal if I manage to snipe an auction and then have a little patience in selling 
the unwanted unit locally or as a buy-it-now listing. 

Dell servers feature a similar technology which they call DRAC, which is a 
single embedded card per-server and which is not cheap. But it additionally 
allows you to power the server on and off and also to mount a .iso image in a 
virtual CD-ROM device across the network. So you can reconfigure the BIOS and 
hardware RAID array, then boot the server from this virtual CD drive and 
reinstall the o/s across the internet without any need for anyone to physically 
touch the machine. If the installation - or a kernel upgrade or anything else - 
goes wrong then you can intervene remotely and boot from a system rescue CD or 
whatever. I've used DRAC4 (early 

Re: [gentoo-user] possible udev problem?

2010-12-18 Thread Dale

Panics Robert wrote:


Hello !

I have a problem, some days ago with the /dev directory. Some or all 
blocking devices despaired like /dev/vg/ /dev/loop/ /dev/sda and some 
others also. After a reboot I see that my server couldn't boot in, 
couse it try to find the root filesystem from /dev/vg/root (using lvm) 
At the boot process when I see that Activating mdev, I see that the 
logical volume groups found ok, so after I rewrite the fstab to 
/dev/mapper/vg-root I can boot in. But also couldn't see /dev/sda and 
others.  When I use this command udevadm test /sys/block/sda/sda1 then 
it appears at under /dev/sda1 , this also true for the loop device ram 
devices and others. I use kernel 2.6.32-xen-r1 , and 
sys-fs/udev-151-r4. any help will be appreciated.




Well, I was hoping someone that knows more about udev would post 
something.  This is what I would check into.  Did you upgrade udev 
recently?  If so, try downgrading and rebooting.  If that doesn't help, 
I would delete the udev rules and reboot.  They should be in 
/etc/udev/rules.d/.


If neither of those helps, maybe try a newer version that is not 
supposed to be stable.  I am using the same version of udev you are but 
I don't use lvm so I can't say that it works, just that it works for me 
without lvm.


If you are still stuck, post again with what you tried.  Maybe someone 
will come up with something.


Dale

:-)  :-)


Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia-drivers: Sync problem ???

2010-12-18 Thread meino . cramer
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [10-12-18 09:52]:
 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,
 
 For my MSI GT430 (nvidia) graphics card I am using
 the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-260.19.29.
 
 But there seems to be something wrong:
 When playing videos with faster movements
 I see heavy distortions around these parts
 of the screen.
 
 Previously I fixed this for another nvidia
 card by enabling different sync options
 in the nvidia-setting dialog and was happy
 that these distortion dont come back, when
 I switched to this newer card.
 
 Now: There're back despite my hopes...
 
 I started glxgears and got this output
 on the console:
 
  Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate 
 should be
  approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
  74062 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14812.268 FPS
  77502 frames in 5.0 seconds = 15500.350 FPS
  XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X 
 server :0.0
  after 57 requests (57 known processed) with 0 events 
 remaining.
 
 
 The second sentence say, that there is a syncing active and will get
 the refresh rate of the monitor (a LCD screen) back. This wouild be
 around 60Hz as far as I know.
 
 And then, the measurements show 15500.350 FPS...
 
 Which slightl above 60 Hz
 
 To sync or not to sync, that seems to be the question...
 
 By the way: Distortion can be watched as when using mplayer
 as with vlc. I recompiled both just to get sure, but it does
 not help. The machine is definetly fast enough to play videos
 (AMD Phenom II X6 1090T)
 
 How can I get back the undistorted screen?
 
 Thank you very much in advance for any help !
 Best regards,
 mcc
 

 
 I would check the log files and see if they shed some light on this.  I 
 would check dmesg, messages and Xorg.0.log as well.  The last one may 
 show the best clues.  If nothing there points to anything good, I would 
 post the xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as attachments.
 
 I have a CPU like yours except 4 core and a little GT-220 card, wimpy 
 compared to yours.  What you see about the refresh rates is displayed 
 on my machine too.  The last part appears because you hit the close 
 window X instead of doing a ctrl c to stop glxgears.  If you start 
 glxgears and do a ctrl c to stop it, the last part won't be there.   I 
 mention this because that *may* have nothing to do with the problem you 
 are having.  This is what happens when I run glxgears:
 
 fireball ~ # glxgears
 Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
 approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
 27770 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5553.918 FPS
 9783 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1955.847 FPS
 3084 frames in 5.0 seconds = 616.716 FPS
 3085 frames in 5.0 seconds = 616.942 FPS
 3105 frames in 5.0 seconds = 620.981 FPS
 XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server 
 :0.0
   after 42 requests (42 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
 fireball ~ # glxgears
 Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
 approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
 14932 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2985.639 FPS
 3011 frames in 5.0 seconds = 602.125 FPS
 ^C
 fireball ~ #
 
 The last one was stopped with a ctrl c as you can see.  The first was 
 closed by hitting the close window button.
 
 If this doesn't help, at least you know to post the files so we can 
 look them over.  Maybe someone will notice something out of place.
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)
 

Hi Dale,

thank you for your in deep explanations ! :)

The distortions I saw on my screen look identical to
those I recognizeed with my old nvidia card before using
the sync settings...so i /thought/ (read: dont know for sure ;) )
it would by a syncing problem again.

But it wan't.

For reasons I dont know in the nvidia-settings there was GPU scaling
activate. May be someone sitting in front of my computer the same time
I use to has fiddled with this setting without informing me... ;)

The trick is: When watching a video in its native resolution, the
problem does not occur.

When watching the video full screen, the GPU was instructed to scale
it up (instead of mplayer or vlc doing this job in software).
Problem with this is (I thinkt), that there is one-pixel-border around
the full-screen window of mplayer/vlc so the GPU is instructed to
scale it to 1918x1199 pixel. Then this is thrown into my LCD monitor
and  rubish...

First I deatcivated GPU scaling and then spoke some serious words
to this guy, who uses my computer always the same I do and ... I am
happy again to have a clean video playing.

Thanks a lot for your explanations! (will store them for later use...
who knows what things I will encounter next;)

Have a nice weekend!
Best regards
mcc




Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia-drivers: Sync problem ???

2010-12-18 Thread Dale

meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

Hi Dale,

thank you for your in deep explanations ! :)

The distortions I saw on my screen look identical to
those I recognizeed with my old nvidia card before using
the sync settings...so i /thought/ (read: dont know for sure ;) )
it would by a syncing problem again.

But it wan't.

For reasons I dont know in the nvidia-settings there was GPU scaling
activate. May be someone sitting in front of my computer the same time
I use to has fiddled with this setting without informing me... ;)

The trick is: When watching a video in its native resolution, the
problem does not occur.

When watching the video full screen, the GPU was instructed to scale
it up (instead of mplayer or vlc doing this job in software).
Problem with this is (I thinkt), that there is one-pixel-border around
the full-screen window of mplayer/vlc so the GPU is instructed to
scale it to 1918x1199 pixel. Then this is thrown into my LCD monitor
and  rubish...

First I deatcivated GPU scaling and then spoke some serious words
to this guy, who uses my computer always the same I do and ... I am
happy again to have a clean video playing.

Thanks a lot for your explanations! (will store them for later use...
who knows what things I will encounter next;)

Have a nice weekend!
Best regards
mcc

   


Glad to have helped.  I find myself in a situation sometimes of not 
knowing where to start looking.  Of course, sometimes knowing where to 
look doesn't always help either but it is worth a try at least.  I 
recently had video issues and knew where to look but the solution was 
not so obvious to me but someone with better googling skills found a 
solution.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?

2010-12-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:56:29 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:

 I've bought (against my better judgement) an Atom N270 box to be a LAN 
 server, but it's a bit slow compared with the other boxes on the 
 network. A big bit, actually - 69 minutes to compile a kernel compared 
 with less than 9 minutes on this workstation.
 
 I thought I'd give distcc a go, but after reading the Gentoo distcc and 
 crossdev guides and doing what they say I get no result. I might just
 as well not have made the effort. The Atom box just labours with the
 emerge without trying to send anything to the server box I've set up
 for the purpose.

I've found there's just too much overhead with distcc, plus much of the
work is still done locally. I have a couple of Atom boxes, a server and a
netbook, and I've set up a chroot for each on my workstation. In the
chroot I have FEATURES=buildpkg, using an NFS mounted PKGDIR available to
both computers, then I emerge -k on the Atom box.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Top Oxymorons Number 1: Microsoft Works


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[gentoo-user] install two releases of library in parallel

2010-12-18 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Hello

I am writing to you in order to know if there's a way to install both 4.54 and 
4.5.85 releases of kdelibs on the same computer.

The problem is that : I want to use the last powerdevil, which enable better 
use and recognition of my laptop battery. It rely on kdelibs 4.5.85.
But I want to keep the current release of kontact 4.5.4, which is quite stable 
and usable for reading mails and other pims stuffs.

So, I need the two releases of kdelibs.
Does someone have an idea or suggestion ?
-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources-2.6.35-r12 causes kernel panic

2010-12-18 Thread Mick
On 30 November 2010 11:11, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:
 On Monday 29 November 2010 18:20:56 Mick wrote:

 Will wait for 2.6.36 series to see if this old PIII will work.

 I'm running 2.6.36-r3 at the moment. You only have to add a keyword to
 gentoo-sources.

Just compiled gentoo-2.6.36-r5.

Unfortunately, I'm no closer to getting running kernel!  :-(
=
ERROR:  Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI4
ERROR:  Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI6

ERROR:  Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI4
ERROR:  Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI6
ERROR:  Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI3
ERROR:  Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI7
ERROR:  Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI13
ERROR:  Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI8
ERROR:  Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI1
ERROR:  Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI12

kernel oanic -not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
Pid: 1, comm: swapper Not taineted 2.6.36-gentoo-r5
Call trace:

snip... (some trace messages which contain):

  panic
  mount_block_root
  kernel_init
  prepare_namespace
  sys_access
  kernel_init
  kernel_thread_helper
=

Any ideas?
-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + NetworkManager Applet + Modem ZTE MF180

2010-12-18 Thread Carlos Sura
On 17 December 2010 10:54, Gary Golden m...@garygolden.me wrote:

 Try option kernel driver.
 Can you see it with lsusb?
 Is there any /dev/ttyUSB* ?

 ---

 Gary Golden

 On 12/14/2010 11:03 PM, Carlos Sura wrote:
  Hello mates,
 
  I'm on a Gentoo Box (my laptop) and I have a usb modem (ZTE MF180), but
  it just don't work with my Gentoo Box, I've been searching in Google and
  I found this: http://christian.amsuess.com/tutorials/zte_mf180/
 
  I tried, but, I ejected my cdrom and even my usb modem (eject /dev/sr1)
  and none of this worked for me.
 
  Does anyone have this Modem working on Gentoo Linux? if so, please let
  me know how!
 
  However, I tried this modem with a livecd (Fedora) and it worked with
  the networkmanager, easy as pie!!... Is there any way to get that config
  (or drivers) to make it work in my gentoo box?
 
  Regards,
  Carlos Sura.
 
  --
  Carlos Sura.-
 


Hello Gary Golden,

Thank you for answer me.

Yes I can see it with: *lusb *and no there is nothing in* /dev/ttyUSB**
*
*
The link above explains how to make it works, but I've been following those
instructions and isn't working for me. Do I need to install *usbswitchmode*?
by the way: Is there anyway to know what drivers and configuration is using
Fedora 14, to make it easier and just take it from Fedora 14 and use it in
my Gentoo ?

Regards,

-- 
Carlos Sura.-


Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?

2010-12-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 18 December 2010 10:18:43 Neil Bothwick wrote:

 I've found there's just too much overhead with distcc, plus much of
 the work is still done locally.

I expected that but I wanted to try it to see.

 I have a couple of Atom boxes, a server and a netbook, and I've set up
 a chroot for each on my workstation. In the chroot I have
 FEATURES=buildpkg, using an NFS mounted PKGDIR available to both
 computers, then I emerge -k on the Atom box.

Maybe I'll go this way instead. Thanks for the idea, which is similar to 
one from YoYo Siska three days ago.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.  Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.



Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?

2010-12-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 17 December 2010 23:23:10 Jacob Todd wrote:
 Could you post your distcc config files?

$ extract /etc/conf.d/distccd
DISTCCD_OPTS=
DISTCCD_EXEC=/usr/bin/distccd
DISTCCD_PIDFILE=/var/run/distccd/distccd.pid
DISTCCD_OPTS=${DISTCCD_OPTS} --port 3632
DISTCCD_OPTS=${DISTCCD_OPTS} --log-level critical
DISTCCD_OPTS=${DISTCCD_OPTS} --allow 192.168.2.0/24
DISTCCD_OPTS=${DISTCCD_OPTS} --listen 192.168.2.2
DISTCCD_OPTS=${DISTCCD_OPTS} -N 15

(Extract is just a mini-script to cut out comments.)

$ cat /etc/distcc/hosts
ostn.ethnet

Ostn is the box that's supposed to do the compilation, but the Atom 
client box just doesn't bother trying distcc. If it had and I had an 
error in my config I'd have got an error message.

$ grep distcc /etc/make.conf
DISTCC_DIR=${PORTAGE_TMPDIR}/.distcc
FEATURES=buildpkg ccache distcc fixpackages parallel-fetch userfetch

Maybe another of those features is incompatible with distcc. I'd also 
have expected an error message in that case, but I just get a bog-
standard emerge process running locally.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.  Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + NetworkManager Applet + Modem ZTE MF180

2010-12-18 Thread Gary Golden
I'm not sure about Fedora, but since /dev/ttyUSB* doesn't exist then
option driver isn't loaded. I have a ZTE device and did make it work
with this driver.

Try lsmod | grep option to make sure.

It's there:

Device Drivers
  - USB support (USB_SUPPORT [=y])│
- USB Serial Converter support (USB_SERIAL [=m]

--

Gary Golden

On 12/18/2010 08:10 PM, Carlos Sura wrote:
 
 On 17 December 2010 10:54, Gary Golden m...@garygolden.me
 mailto:m...@garygolden.me wrote:
 
 Try option kernel driver.
 Can you see it with lsusb?
 Is there any /dev/ttyUSB* ?
 
 ---
 
 Gary Golden
 
 On 12/14/2010 11:03 PM, Carlos Sura wrote:
  Hello mates,
 
  I'm on a Gentoo Box (my laptop) and I have a usb modem (ZTE
 MF180), but
  it just don't work with my Gentoo Box, I've been searching in
 Google and
  I found this: http://christian.amsuess.com/tutorials/zte_mf180/
 
  I tried, but, I ejected my cdrom and even my usb modem (eject
 /dev/sr1)
  and none of this worked for me.
 
  Does anyone have this Modem working on Gentoo Linux? if so, please let
  me know how!
 
  However, I tried this modem with a livecd (Fedora) and it worked with
  the networkmanager, easy as pie!!... Is there any way to get that
 config
  (or drivers) to make it work in my gentoo box?
 
  Regards,
  Carlos Sura.
 
  --
  Carlos Sura.-
 
 
 
 Hello Gary Golden,
 
 Thank you for answer me.
 
 Yes I can see it with: *lusb *and no there is nothing in*/dev/ttyUSB**
 *
 *
 The link above explains how to make it works, but I've been following
 those instructions and isn't working for me. Do I need to install
 *usbswitchmode*? by the way: Is there anyway to know what drivers and
 configuration is using Fedora 14, to make it easier and just take it
 from Fedora 14 and use it in my Gentoo ?
 
 Regards,
 
 -- 
 Carlos Sura.-
 



[gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet

2010-12-18 Thread James
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes:


  I bought this router the other day.  I notice something that is a little
  weird. 
 It seems like more of the computer and electronics problems I have (or
 that people bring to me) are related to power supply failures than any
 other reason. 

Shot in the dark:

Make sure the router is on a UPS. Often you do not have power
failures, but power glitches such as low voltage, particularly
if the temperature has spiked cold in your area. Of if the 
local power companies is a slacker, like most of them are.
Some areas are frequently swung from one substation to 
another substation, as the power grid managers try to 
minimize the operational costs and balance the distribution
network. This sort of activity will kill UPS and batteries,
prematurely.

All UPS need to be tested to ensure the batteries are good
every few months. If you can wire in addition jel-cel batteries
in parallel so as to extend capacity and ease the drain-charge
cycles on your UPS equipment.

Best thing to do, is hook up a 100 watt (150) incadescent
bulb and fixture and just pull the power cord. If the light
flickers or goes brown or out too soon, your UPS may
need either a new battery or if your UPS power circuitry
is of poor quality or old, just replace the UPS.

Power quality is a big problem, the world over and often
the detection requires subtle interrogation, or a purchase
to fix it. 

A Leroy fix is to plug a smaller capacity UPS into a
larger UPS that is connected to the wall outlet, to prevent
voltages sags due to old or poor quality electronics of the
UPS(es).

If you need batteries, I know of a good (cheap) supplier
for Lead_acid batteries, in the US. so just drop me
a line.


Another idea, find out what voltage (DC?) your router
uses, if it has an external power supply; it will be marked
on the power supply. If you are lucky it uses 12VDC or 5-6 VDC
and you can splice in Jel-Cell batteries of the appropriate
voltage, for extra energy storage or to limit voltage sag.


Just some random ideas and watch out for neighbors running too
many christmas lights or a welder in the neighborhood.
Power quality issues usually magnify during periods of peak demand.


hth,
James





[gentoo-user] ARM Converts ?

2010-12-18 Thread James
Hello,

I just thought I'd share ARM's vision of the future, 
Gentoo  style, (excellent xmas presents) should anyone
on this list be inclined to ARM (~4K bogomips) their way
into the future.

At $175 (US) this is the most outstanding bargain
I've seen this Xmas:

http://pandaboard.org/   digikey

Just look at these specs, as this (dual cortex A9)
embedded board is going to kill the Atom for mobile
computing:

http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/File:PandaBoard_Setup.png

Thanks to  Armin76 (Raúl Porcel) we also have  excellent docs 
on how to put gentoo on this bad boy:

http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/arm/pandaboard/install.xml#doc_chap10

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/?part=4chap=9#


So fast that folks are natively compiling on this embedded board.
According to TI, the Pandaboard is a stepping stone to the A15
TI ARM core, which will feature SATA and  will appear early in 2012
to assault the server room for cheap, massively parallel
ARM (A15) based systems..

(cough...cough. Atom who?)

I've ordered my pandaboard and was promised delivery the second week of
January, 2011.


Merry Christmas to all!

James






Re: [gentoo-user] install two releases of library in parallel

2010-12-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 18 December 2010 11:27:06 Stéphane Guedon wrote:
 Hello
 
 I am writing to you in order to know if there's a way to install both 4.54
 and 4.5.85 releases of kdelibs on the same computer.
 
 The problem is that : I want to use the last powerdevil, which enable better
 use and recognition of my laptop battery. It rely on kdelibs 4.5.85. But I
 want to keep the current release of kontact 4.5.4, which is quite stable
 and usable for reading mails and other pims stuffs.
 
 So, I need the two releases of kdelibs.
 Does someone have an idea or suggestion ?

kdeprefix.



[gentoo-user] Re: install two releases of library in parallel

2010-12-18 Thread walt

On 12/18/2010 02:27 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:

Hello

I am writing to you in order to know if there's a way to install both 4.54 and
4.5.85 releases of kdelibs on the same computer.

The problem is that : I want to use the last powerdevil, which enable better
use and recognition of my laptop battery. It rely on kdelibs 4.5.85.
But I want to keep the current release of kontact 4.5.4, which is quite stable
and usable for reading mails and other pims stuffs.


Hm.  Looking at the ebuilds for those packages, I don't see the version numbers
you mention:
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   9351 Dec 14 13:59 kdelibs-4.4.5-r1.ebuild
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   9306 Sep 13 15:05 kdelibs-4.4.5.ebuild
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   9356 Nov  3 09:30 kdelibs-4.5.3.ebuild
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   9353 Dec  2 13:16 kdelibs-4.5.4.ebuild

Are you using a portage overlay for kde?

Anyway, the older version of kontact may compile and run normally if you
emerge it with the newer version of kdelibs installed.  I would try it as
an experiment before trying to install two different library versions.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: install two releases of library in parallel

2010-12-18 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le Saturday 18 December 2010 18:49:08, walt a écrit :
 On 12/18/2010 02:27 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
  Hello
  
  I am writing to you in order to know if there's a way to install both
  4.54 and 4.5.85 releases of kdelibs on the same computer.
  
  The problem is that : I want to use the last powerdevil, which enable
  better use and recognition of my laptop battery. It rely on kdelibs
  4.5.85. But I want to keep the current release of kontact 4.5.4, which
  is quite stable and usable for reading mails and other pims stuffs.
 
 Hm.  Looking at the ebuilds for those packages, I don't see the version
 numbers you mention:
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root   9351 Dec 14 13:59 kdelibs-4.4.5-r1.ebuild
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root   9306 Sep 13 15:05 kdelibs-4.4.5.ebuild
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root   9356 Nov  3 09:30 kdelibs-4.5.3.ebuild
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root   9353 Dec  2 13:16 kdelibs-4.5.4.ebuild
 
 Are you using a portage overlay for kde?
 
 Anyway, the older version of kontact may compile and run normally if you
 emerge it with the newer version of kdelibs installed.  I would try it as
 an experiment before trying to install two different library versions.

I use the kde overlay.
I will try the thing you say before using kdeprefix said by Mr Volker.
Thanks
-- 
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[gentoo-user] SIMH on AMD64

2010-12-18 Thread meino . cramer
Hi,

I know, the SIMH-packages are masked

The only question I have is: Does SIMH simply
does not run on AMD64 (or is it my fault, that
trying to laod an old UnixV6 tape and booting 
resulting in a endless process eating up 100%
of one core of my CPU...?)

Best regards,
mcc






Re: [gentoo-user] Which motherboard ?

2010-12-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 17 December 2010 22:52:30 Jacques Montier wrote:
 Le 17/12/2010 21:45, Dale a gentiment tapote:
 
 --
 Jacques
 Site web https://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/
 
  Mark Knecht wrote:
  I have no real opinion on that MB. I've never owned a Gigabyte so I
  don't have a real point of reference. I know other people here use
  them so I suspect they are fine.
  
  I personally like the Asus brand for flashing BIOS as it can be done
  from a USB stick. If Gigabyte supports anything like that (i.e. -
  doesn't require Windows or DOS or a floppy to flash BIOS) then it's
  probably a good candidate.
  
  Asus support isn't great. Their websites are slow and everyone seems
  to complain about lack of communication when they have problems.
  Again, I don't know anything about Gigabyte on that account.
  
  Good luck.
  
  - Mark
  
  I recently bought a Gigabyte mobo and it has Q-Flash.  It will update
  the BIOS without needing a OS.   According to the book, you just
  download the update and put it on a USB stick, must be FAT32/16/12,
  and hit the end key when the BIOS screen comes up.  It sounds pretty
  easy.  I have not done this yet tho.
  
  Hope that helps.
  
  Dale
  
  :-)  :-)
 
 Thank you  Dale,
 
 The Asus P6X58D-E motherboard seems ready for USB-3.0
 Does Linux support USB-3.0 technology ?

linux was the first OS to have usb3 drivers.

I own an Asus and it is crap. Which might be bad luck. But from all I read 
over the web and all the experiences in my social circles point to Gigabyte 
boards as the most stable, troubleless boards at the moment, while Asus' 
quality went down a lot.



Re: [gentoo-user] Which motherboard ?

2010-12-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Friday 17 December 2010 22:52:30 Jacques Montier wrote:
 Le 17/12/2010 21:45, Dale a gentiment tapote:

 --
 Jacques
 Site web https://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/

  Mark Knecht wrote:
  I have no real opinion on that MB. I've never owned a Gigabyte so I
  don't have a real point of reference. I know other people here use
  them so I suspect they are fine.
 
  I personally like the Asus brand for flashing BIOS as it can be done
  from a USB stick. If Gigabyte supports anything like that (i.e. -
  doesn't require Windows or DOS or a floppy to flash BIOS) then it's
  probably a good candidate.
 
  Asus support isn't great. Their websites are slow and everyone seems
  to complain about lack of communication when they have problems.
  Again, I don't know anything about Gigabyte on that account.
 
  Good luck.
 
  - Mark
 
  I recently bought a Gigabyte mobo and it has Q-Flash.  It will update
  the BIOS without needing a OS.   According to the book, you just
  download the update and put it on a USB stick, must be FAT32/16/12,
  and hit the end key when the BIOS screen comes up.  It sounds pretty
  easy.  I have not done this yet tho.
 
  Hope that helps.
 
  Dale
 
  :-)  :-)

 Thank you  Dale,

 The Asus P6X58D-E motherboard seems ready for USB-3.0
 Does Linux support USB-3.0 technology ?

 linux was the first OS to have usb3 drivers.

 I own an Asus and it is crap. Which might be bad luck. But from all I read
 over the web and all the experiences in my social circles point to Gigabyte
 boards as the most stable, troubleless boards at the moment, while Asus'
 quality went down a lot.

I agree that from reading these lists most people who buy Gigabyte
seem to report being happy.

It's strange about Asus. I read all this negative stuff on lists about
people having trouble with Asus motherboards. However I've used them
for years, having bought at least 10-12 different motherboard models
in the last 15 years, and every one of them has worked great. They are
still my #1 brand.

I purchased 3 Intel MBs in 2010 and they have all worked fine also.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: install two releases of library in parallel

2010-12-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:20 on Saturday 18 December 2010, Stéphane 
Guedon did opine thusly:

 Le Saturday 18 December 2010 18:49:08, walt a écrit :
  On 12/18/2010 02:27 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
   Hello
   
   I am writing to you in order to know if there's a way to install both
   4.54 and 4.5.85 releases of kdelibs on the same computer.
   
   The problem is that : I want to use the last powerdevil, which enable
   better use and recognition of my laptop battery. It rely on kdelibs
   4.5.85. But I want to keep the current release of kontact 4.5.4, which
   is quite stable and usable for reading mails and other pims stuffs.
  
  Hm.  Looking at the ebuilds for those packages, I don't see the version
  numbers you mention:
  -rw-r--r--   1 root root   9351 Dec 14 13:59 kdelibs-4.4.5-r1.ebuild
  -rw-r--r--   1 root root   9306 Sep 13 15:05 kdelibs-4.4.5.ebuild
  -rw-r--r--   1 root root   9356 Nov  3 09:30 kdelibs-4.5.3.ebuild
  -rw-r--r--   1 root root   9353 Dec  2 13:16 kdelibs-4.5.4.ebuild
  
  Are you using a portage overlay for kde?
  
  Anyway, the older version of kontact may compile and run normally if you
  emerge it with the newer version of kdelibs installed.  I would try it as
  an experiment before trying to install two different library versions.
 
 I use the kde overlay.
 I will try the thing you say before using kdeprefix said by Mr Volker.
 Thanks

You might want to review various mailing lists and research the pitfalls with 
this approach. kdeprefix used to be supported in the tree ebuilds but it was 
removed for excellent technical reasons.

I don't recall off-hand exactly what those reasons were well enough to post, 
but it's all there in archives, and you really should become familiar with the 
full background.. 

Forewarned is forearmed as they say in the classics.



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet

2010-12-18 Thread Dale

Dale wrote:


Well so far it has been working.  Maybe it got things worked out and 
DHCP is working it out.  Maybe it needed a little training time.  lol


Both modem and router are set to use DHCP.  I should know when I get 
some sleep next time.  I'm not sure when that will be tho.


Dale

:-)  :-)



I took me a nice nap.  I woke up and the light was red again and no 
internet.  I accessed the router and it thinks it is up.  It shows a 
internet IP and all.  It looks normal but I can't get to the internet.


I also tried to renew the DHCP settings.  I was hoping it would recheck 
the connection between the router and modem but it didn't appear to do 
anything at all.  The red light was still on anyway.


I still can't find a setting for time outs or anything.  Is this 
something that is set but can't be changed my the user?  Any other ideas?


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet

2010-12-18 Thread Dale

James wrote:

Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gentooat  gmail.com  writes:


   

I bought this router the other day.  I notice something that is a little
weird.
   

It seems like more of the computer and electronics problems I have (or
that people bring to me) are related to power supply failures than any
other reason.
 

Shot in the dark:

Make sure the router is on a UPS. Often you do not have power
failures, but power glitches such as low voltage, particularly
if the temperature has spiked cold in your area. Of if the
local power companies is a slacker, like most of them are.
Some areas are frequently swung from one substation to
another substation, as the power grid managers try to
minimize the operational costs and balance the distribution
network. This sort of activity will kill UPS and batteries,
prematurely.

All UPS need to be tested to ensure the batteries are good
every few months. If you can wire in addition jel-cel batteries
in parallel so as to extend capacity and ease the drain-charge
cycles on your UPS equipment.

Best thing to do, is hook up a 100 watt (150) incadescent
bulb and fixture and just pull the power cord. If the light
flickers or goes brown or out too soon, your UPS may
need either a new battery or if your UPS power circuitry
is of poor quality or old, just replace the UPS.

Power quality is a big problem, the world over and often
the detection requires subtle interrogation, or a purchase
to fix it.

A Leroy fix is to plug a smaller capacity UPS into a
larger UPS that is connected to the wall outlet, to prevent
voltages sags due to old or poor quality electronics of the
UPS(es).

If you need batteries, I know of a good (cheap) supplier
for Lead_acid batteries, in the US. so just drop me
a line.


Another idea, find out what voltage (DC?) your router
uses, if it has an external power supply; it will be marked
on the power supply. If you are lucky it uses 12VDC or 5-6 VDC
and you can splice in Jel-Cell batteries of the appropriate
voltage, for extra energy storage or to limit voltage sag.


Just some random ideas and watch out for neighbors running too
many christmas lights or a welder in the neighborhood.
Power quality issues usually magnify during periods of peak demand.


hth,
James

   


I have it plugged up to the same UPS my puter uses.  I changed the 
battery about a year ago and it is plenty large enough.  It runs at 
about 40% load.   I doubt it is a power issue.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet

2010-12-18 Thread David Abbott
Dale you still use att or bellsouth DSL ?
I connect like this [10 port switch] = [linksys router running ddwrt]
= [DSL modem westell 6100]
I put the modem in ip passthru [1] to the router, the modem validates
the connection with att and the router does every thing else.
[1] http://nooone.info/downloads/IP_Passthru.png

-- 
David Abbott (dabbott)
Gentoo
http://dev.gentoo.org/~dabbott/



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet

2010-12-18 Thread Dale

David Abbott wrote:

Dale you still use att or bellsouth DSL ?
I connect like this [10 port switch] =  [linksys router running ddwrt]
=  [DSL modem westell 6100]
I put the modem in ip passthru [1] to the router, the modem validates
the connection with att and the router does every thing else.
[1] http://nooone.info/downloads/IP_Passthru.png

   


OK.  I changed the setting and restarted the modem.  I'll check when I 
take my next nap and see if it helps.


By the way, folding stopped on one of my processes because it couldn't 
send in the data and get a new packet.  This router better straighten up 
soon.  ;-)  It's cold and I need the heat.  lol


Thanks for the tip.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet

2010-12-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP

 I have it plugged up to the same UPS my puter uses.  I changed the battery
 about a year ago and it is plenty large enough.  It runs at about 40% load.
   I doubt it is a power issue.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)



Multiple people in the Linksys forums seem to have the same problem:

http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-loses-connection/m-p/233266#M21765

http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-Losing-Connection-Frequently/m-p/206185#M19557

Note that one post seemed to consider this device as 'old' in 2008'.

QUESTION: You purchased the BEFSR41 to support routing to the new
machines along with the old machine, correct? The red light is on the
DSL modem according to the first post. I guess that modem only has a
singleLAN port? What leads you to believe the problem is with the
router and not the modem?

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet

2010-12-18 Thread Dale

Mark Knecht wrote:

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com  wrote:
SNIP
   

I have it plugged up to the same UPS my puter uses.  I changed the battery
about a year ago and it is plenty large enough.  It runs at about 40% load.
   I doubt it is a power issue.

Dale

:-)  :-)


 

Multiple people in the Linksys forums seem to have the same problem:

http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-loses-connection/m-p/233266#M21765

http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-Losing-Connection-Frequently/m-p/206185#M19557

Note that one post seemed to consider this device as 'old' in 2008'.

QUESTION: You purchased the BEFSR41 to support routing to the new
machines along with the old machine, correct? The red light is on the
DSL modem according to the first post. I guess that modem only has a
singleLAN port? What leads you to believe the problem is with the
router and not the modem?

Cheers,
Mark

   


Well, before I hooked up the router, it never did this before.  The only 
time the light was red before was when they were reseting the box up the 
road or my puter was turned off.  Since the only thing that changed was 
the router, I sort of figure it has something to do with it.  I have had 
this DSL for over a year so I would think it would have did something 
weird by now.


If it does it again, I'm going to hook my puter back up straight to the 
modem and see if it works then.  That should rule out any changes up the 
road somewhere and the modem.


I'm going to read up on the links you posted.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet

2010-12-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP

 Multiple people in the Linksys forums seem to have the same problem:


 http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-loses-connection/m-p/233266#M21765


 http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-Losing-Connection-Frequently/m-p/206185#M19557

 Note that one post seemed to consider this device as 'old' in 2008'.

 QUESTION: You purchased the BEFSR41 to support routing to the new
 machines along with the old machine, correct? The red light is on the
 DSL modem according to the first post. I guess that modem only has a
 singleLAN port? What leads you to believe the problem is with the
 router and not the modem?

 Cheers,
 Mark



 Well, before I hooked up the router, it never did this before.  The only
 time the light was red before was when they were reseting the box up the
 road or my puter was turned off.  Since the only thing that changed was the
 router, I sort of figure it has something to do with it.  I have had this
 DSL for over a year so I would think it would have did something weird by
 now.

 If it does it again, I'm going to hook my puter back up straight to the
 modem and see if it works then.  That should rule out any changes up the
 road somewhere and the modem.

 I'm going to read up on the links you posted.

Yeah, makes sense.

I use a LinkSys WRT54G for my Cable Modem ISP and a 327W for my DSL
line. The only time I've had problems like you suggest were:

1) The ISP was having trouble. WIth Comcast this can go on for weeks at a time.

2) The unit was bad.

In the case of #2 replacing it fixed things right up.

Good luck,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet

2010-12-18 Thread Dale

Mark Knecht wrote:

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com  wrote:
SNIP
   

Multiple people in the Linksys forums seem to have the same problem:


http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-loses-connection/m-p/233266#M21765


http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-Losing-Connection-Frequently/m-p/206185#M19557

Note that one post seemed to consider this device as 'old' in 2008'.

QUESTION: You purchased the BEFSR41 to support routing to the new
machines along with the old machine, correct? The red light is on the
DSL modem according to the first post. I guess that modem only has a
singleLAN port? What leads you to believe the problem is with the
router and not the modem?

Cheers,
Mark


   

Well, before I hooked up the router, it never did this before.  The only
time the light was red before was when they were reseting the box up the
road or my puter was turned off.  Since the only thing that changed was the
router, I sort of figure it has something to do with it.  I have had this
DSL for over a year so I would think it would have did something weird by
now.

If it does it again, I'm going to hook my puter back up straight to the
modem and see if it works then.  That should rule out any changes up the
road somewhere and the modem.

I'm going to read up on the links you posted.
 

Yeah, makes sense.

I use a LinkSys WRT54G for my Cable Modem ISP and a 327W for my DSL
line. The only time I've had problems like you suggest were:

1) The ISP was having trouble. WIth Comcast this can go on for weeks at a time.

2) The unit was bad.

In the case of #2 replacing it fixed things right up.

Good luck,
Mark

   


I think it is a setting or something and I just can't fine it.  I have 
clicked about everything I can think of to find something but no luck so 
far.  I hope the IP passthrough thing will work.  I hope anyway.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] modem problem : Speedstream vs Zoom

2010-12-18 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 01:12:08PM -0500, Philip Webb wrote

 Thanks to both: you've solved my actual problem, but not the puzzle.
 I installed the Gentoo pkg 'dhcpcd'  'dhcpcd eth0' gets the I/net :
 clearly, this is a big step forward by ISPs since 2001 !  I can also
 get through this way using Mandriva's wired connection.  It still
 doesn't explain why Mandriva's pppoe works, but not Gentoo's,
 but that's now hopefully moot, if nothing goes wrong again.

  I don't bother with pppoe because the router-modem should give you a
generic ethernet interface with a static IP address.  I don't bother
with dhcp either.  You can get by with a static RFC1918 IP address from
the modem.  My ADSL router modem has address 192.168.123.254 and this PC
has 192.168.123.249.  My /etc/conf.d/net started out as...

config_eth0=(
192.168.123.249 broadcast 192.168.123.255 netmask 255.255.255.248 mtu 1454
routes_eth0=(
default via 192.168.123.254
)

  You can get more sophisticated.  Currently, I'm at...

config_eth0=(
192.168.123.249 broadcast 192.168.123.255 netmask 255.255.255.248 mtu 1454
169.254.1.3 broadcast 169.254.255.255 netmask 255.255.0.0)
routes_eth0=(
default via 192.168.123.254 metric 2
192.168.123.248/29 via 192.168.123.254 metric 0
169.254.0.0/16 via 169.254.1.3 metric 0
)

  By setting the default route to metric 2, and the other routes to
metric 0, my PC can talk to other devices here at home *WHILE THE DIALUP
MODEM IS CONNECTED TO THE NET*.  My backup PC is on 192.168.123.248/29
and the HDHomerun TV tuner sitting in the living room (facing the CN
Tower and Buffalo) is on 169.254,xxx.xxx at the other end of a 50-foot
ethernet cable.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org