Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?
On 17/12/2010, at 10:56pm, Peter Humphrey wrote: ... an Atom N270 box ... server, but it's a bit slow compared with the other boxes on the network. A big bit, actually - 69 minutes to compile a kernel compared with less than 9 minutes on this workstation. 9 minutes!?!? I'm flabbergasted. The machines I have around here, I consider 1 hour to compile a kernel pretty good. Actually I'm in the process of migrating to newer hardware, but I haven't tested kernel compilation times. Nevertheless: it's a server. Open a `tmux` session, start it compiling, go watch a movie. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia-drivers: Sync problem ???
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, For my MSI GT430 (nvidia) graphics card I am using the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-260.19.29. But there seems to be something wrong: When playing videos with faster movements I see heavy distortions around these parts of the screen. Previously I fixed this for another nvidia card by enabling different sync options in the nvidia-setting dialog and was happy that these distortion dont come back, when I switched to this newer card. Now: There're back despite my hopes... I started glxgears and got this output on the console: Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. 74062 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14812.268 FPS 77502 frames in 5.0 seconds = 15500.350 FPS XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0 after 57 requests (57 known processed) with 0 events remaining. The second sentence say, that there is a syncing active and will get the refresh rate of the monitor (a LCD screen) back. This wouild be around 60Hz as far as I know. And then, the measurements show 15500.350 FPS... Which slightl above 60 Hz To sync or not to sync, that seems to be the question... By the way: Distortion can be watched as when using mplayer as with vlc. I recompiled both just to get sure, but it does not help. The machine is definetly fast enough to play videos (AMD Phenom II X6 1090T) How can I get back the undistorted screen? Thank you very much in advance for any help ! Best regards, mcc I would check the log files and see if they shed some light on this. I would check dmesg, messages and Xorg.0.log as well. The last one may show the best clues. If nothing there points to anything good, I would post the xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as attachments. I have a CPU like yours except 4 core and a little GT-220 card, wimpy compared to yours. What you see about the refresh rates is displayed on my machine too. The last part appears because you hit the close window X instead of doing a ctrl c to stop glxgears. If you start glxgears and do a ctrl c to stop it, the last part won't be there. I mention this because that *may* have nothing to do with the problem you are having. This is what happens when I run glxgears: fireball ~ # glxgears Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. 27770 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5553.918 FPS 9783 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1955.847 FPS 3084 frames in 5.0 seconds = 616.716 FPS 3085 frames in 5.0 seconds = 616.942 FPS 3105 frames in 5.0 seconds = 620.981 FPS XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0 after 42 requests (42 known processed) with 0 events remaining. fireball ~ # glxgears Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. 14932 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2985.639 FPS 3011 frames in 5.0 seconds = 602.125 FPS ^C fireball ~ # The last one was stopped with a ctrl c as you can see. The first was closed by hitting the close window button. If this doesn't help, at least you know to post the files so we can look them over. Maybe someone will notice something out of place. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Long standing problem of booting thu kvm switch
On 17/12/2010, at 5:58pm, Harry Putnam wrote: ... ps - You were bragging about the abilities of you KVM switch in the past thread... I didn't see it mentioned what switch that is. Also you mentioned accessing your KVM with a web browser... can you enlarge a few details on that? Let me start by saying that I looked up your KVM and was really impressed by it. Yours is the Iogear, right? Not Iomega, I think. I was really impressed that yours is all current technology, switching DVI port as well as mic speakers, that it uses USB keyboard mouse. My current model is a Blackbox KV9408A, back then I was still using my Austin Hughes IP-802. Basically, both are 8-port KVM switches with a framegrabber and some embedded Linux built on the same board. So the switch part allows you to manage multiple servers, and the framegrabber part allows this to be viewed across the network using a VNC client. I don't KVM at my desktop, I only use my main desktop machine there. The KVM-IP resides in the server closet, and can switch between my otherwise-headless machines there. It works really well for me, because a lot of my work is (or has been, at least) working on Windows PCs for small offices and home users. So if I bring in one of their PCs to recover data off it, run chkdisk or reinstall Windows, I just shove it in the closet and connect remotely. I don't have to cross the room or twist around in my seat to view the machine I'm working on, it just appears as a large window on the screen of one of the monitors of my desktop PC. I think this is *really* cool technology. There's something about it that appeals to me that I rate it on the same level of killer app as email and ssh. I practically fetishise it. These IP-KVMs cost c £1000 new, but you can pick them up on eBay for a song. I paid £100 for the Blackbox and I think c £120 for the Austin Hughes. The Blackbox is a little newer, I think, and initially more impressive to use, but overall the features of the two are about even. The web-interface of the Austin H looks a little dated now (it's a 2003 model), but it has the nifty programmable GUI buttons which I mentioned in the previous thread - with them you can create single-button shortcuts for any keyboard macro, and it also has a full on-screen keyboard for occasional use. I find the lack of that a real shortcoming in the Blackbox - this week I was unable to change some BIOS settings remotely because my MacBook's keyboard has no page-up / page-down keys. However the Blackbox just wins the comparison by a nose because it allows you to use any standard VNC client to view the servers - the Austin H requires you to use a browser-launched Java viewer. I could spend hours writing a comparison between the two products, because clearly I'm a fanboi for this technology. The two models do the same job, but it's interesting to observe that they have a bunch of implementation differences, and these have a range of more or less subtle benefits and annoyances. The market for these devices is fairly niche, I guess - it's impossible to find reviews of them before buying, and hard to learn anything at all about specific models, beyond manufacturers' brochures. A manual doesn't really give you much of an impression of how it is to actually use a particular KVM-IP. I imagine these are sold primarily to datacentres and the enterprise, companies who are buying 10 or 100 at a time, that they are serenaded by salesmen, and that the admins get to try a demo model, perhaps several, before buying them. I wouldn't be surprised if Alan has a few KVM-IPs, or can access his London / Paris / New York / Tokyo servers using them; I would be *extremely* interested to know what models he uses and what he thinks of them. The retail price is certainly prohibitive unless you've got a pressing business need for a KVM-IP, but as an enthusiast I can easily justify them secondhand. For me, bringing customer's PCs home to work on, they have been *so* useful. I continue to watch eBay for new listings - the only way to compare a new unit with my current one is to try it, and I don't think I'll lose anything on the deal if I manage to snipe an auction and then have a little patience in selling the unwanted unit locally or as a buy-it-now listing. Dell servers feature a similar technology which they call DRAC, which is a single embedded card per-server and which is not cheap. But it additionally allows you to power the server on and off and also to mount a .iso image in a virtual CD-ROM device across the network. So you can reconfigure the BIOS and hardware RAID array, then boot the server from this virtual CD drive and reinstall the o/s across the internet without any need for anyone to physically touch the machine. If the installation - or a kernel upgrade or anything else - goes wrong then you can intervene remotely and boot from a system rescue CD or whatever. I've used DRAC4 (early
Re: [gentoo-user] possible udev problem?
Panics Robert wrote: Hello ! I have a problem, some days ago with the /dev directory. Some or all blocking devices despaired like /dev/vg/ /dev/loop/ /dev/sda and some others also. After a reboot I see that my server couldn't boot in, couse it try to find the root filesystem from /dev/vg/root (using lvm) At the boot process when I see that Activating mdev, I see that the logical volume groups found ok, so after I rewrite the fstab to /dev/mapper/vg-root I can boot in. But also couldn't see /dev/sda and others. When I use this command udevadm test /sys/block/sda/sda1 then it appears at under /dev/sda1 , this also true for the loop device ram devices and others. I use kernel 2.6.32-xen-r1 , and sys-fs/udev-151-r4. any help will be appreciated. Well, I was hoping someone that knows more about udev would post something. This is what I would check into. Did you upgrade udev recently? If so, try downgrading and rebooting. If that doesn't help, I would delete the udev rules and reboot. They should be in /etc/udev/rules.d/. If neither of those helps, maybe try a newer version that is not supposed to be stable. I am using the same version of udev you are but I don't use lvm so I can't say that it works, just that it works for me without lvm. If you are still stuck, post again with what you tried. Maybe someone will come up with something. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia-drivers: Sync problem ???
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [10-12-18 09:52]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, For my MSI GT430 (nvidia) graphics card I am using the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-260.19.29. But there seems to be something wrong: When playing videos with faster movements I see heavy distortions around these parts of the screen. Previously I fixed this for another nvidia card by enabling different sync options in the nvidia-setting dialog and was happy that these distortion dont come back, when I switched to this newer card. Now: There're back despite my hopes... I started glxgears and got this output on the console: Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. 74062 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14812.268 FPS 77502 frames in 5.0 seconds = 15500.350 FPS XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0 after 57 requests (57 known processed) with 0 events remaining. The second sentence say, that there is a syncing active and will get the refresh rate of the monitor (a LCD screen) back. This wouild be around 60Hz as far as I know. And then, the measurements show 15500.350 FPS... Which slightl above 60 Hz To sync or not to sync, that seems to be the question... By the way: Distortion can be watched as when using mplayer as with vlc. I recompiled both just to get sure, but it does not help. The machine is definetly fast enough to play videos (AMD Phenom II X6 1090T) How can I get back the undistorted screen? Thank you very much in advance for any help ! Best regards, mcc I would check the log files and see if they shed some light on this. I would check dmesg, messages and Xorg.0.log as well. The last one may show the best clues. If nothing there points to anything good, I would post the xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as attachments. I have a CPU like yours except 4 core and a little GT-220 card, wimpy compared to yours. What you see about the refresh rates is displayed on my machine too. The last part appears because you hit the close window X instead of doing a ctrl c to stop glxgears. If you start glxgears and do a ctrl c to stop it, the last part won't be there. I mention this because that *may* have nothing to do with the problem you are having. This is what happens when I run glxgears: fireball ~ # glxgears Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. 27770 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5553.918 FPS 9783 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1955.847 FPS 3084 frames in 5.0 seconds = 616.716 FPS 3085 frames in 5.0 seconds = 616.942 FPS 3105 frames in 5.0 seconds = 620.981 FPS XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0 after 42 requests (42 known processed) with 0 events remaining. fireball ~ # glxgears Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. 14932 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2985.639 FPS 3011 frames in 5.0 seconds = 602.125 FPS ^C fireball ~ # The last one was stopped with a ctrl c as you can see. The first was closed by hitting the close window button. If this doesn't help, at least you know to post the files so we can look them over. Maybe someone will notice something out of place. Dale :-) :-) Hi Dale, thank you for your in deep explanations ! :) The distortions I saw on my screen look identical to those I recognizeed with my old nvidia card before using the sync settings...so i /thought/ (read: dont know for sure ;) ) it would by a syncing problem again. But it wan't. For reasons I dont know in the nvidia-settings there was GPU scaling activate. May be someone sitting in front of my computer the same time I use to has fiddled with this setting without informing me... ;) The trick is: When watching a video in its native resolution, the problem does not occur. When watching the video full screen, the GPU was instructed to scale it up (instead of mplayer or vlc doing this job in software). Problem with this is (I thinkt), that there is one-pixel-border around the full-screen window of mplayer/vlc so the GPU is instructed to scale it to 1918x1199 pixel. Then this is thrown into my LCD monitor and rubish... First I deatcivated GPU scaling and then spoke some serious words to this guy, who uses my computer always the same I do and ... I am happy again to have a clean video playing. Thanks a lot for your explanations! (will store them for later use... who knows what things I will encounter next;) Have a nice weekend! Best regards mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia-drivers: Sync problem ???
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dale, thank you for your in deep explanations ! :) The distortions I saw on my screen look identical to those I recognizeed with my old nvidia card before using the sync settings...so i /thought/ (read: dont know for sure ;) ) it would by a syncing problem again. But it wan't. For reasons I dont know in the nvidia-settings there was GPU scaling activate. May be someone sitting in front of my computer the same time I use to has fiddled with this setting without informing me... ;) The trick is: When watching a video in its native resolution, the problem does not occur. When watching the video full screen, the GPU was instructed to scale it up (instead of mplayer or vlc doing this job in software). Problem with this is (I thinkt), that there is one-pixel-border around the full-screen window of mplayer/vlc so the GPU is instructed to scale it to 1918x1199 pixel. Then this is thrown into my LCD monitor and rubish... First I deatcivated GPU scaling and then spoke some serious words to this guy, who uses my computer always the same I do and ... I am happy again to have a clean video playing. Thanks a lot for your explanations! (will store them for later use... who knows what things I will encounter next;) Have a nice weekend! Best regards mcc Glad to have helped. I find myself in a situation sometimes of not knowing where to start looking. Of course, sometimes knowing where to look doesn't always help either but it is worth a try at least. I recently had video issues and knew where to look but the solution was not so obvious to me but someone with better googling skills found a solution. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:56:29 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: I've bought (against my better judgement) an Atom N270 box to be a LAN server, but it's a bit slow compared with the other boxes on the network. A big bit, actually - 69 minutes to compile a kernel compared with less than 9 minutes on this workstation. I thought I'd give distcc a go, but after reading the Gentoo distcc and crossdev guides and doing what they say I get no result. I might just as well not have made the effort. The Atom box just labours with the emerge without trying to send anything to the server box I've set up for the purpose. I've found there's just too much overhead with distcc, plus much of the work is still done locally. I have a couple of Atom boxes, a server and a netbook, and I've set up a chroot for each on my workstation. In the chroot I have FEATURES=buildpkg, using an NFS mounted PKGDIR available to both computers, then I emerge -k on the Atom box. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 1: Microsoft Works signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] install two releases of library in parallel
Hello I am writing to you in order to know if there's a way to install both 4.54 and 4.5.85 releases of kdelibs on the same computer. The problem is that : I want to use the last powerdevil, which enable better use and recognition of my laptop battery. It rely on kdelibs 4.5.85. But I want to keep the current release of kontact 4.5.4, which is quite stable and usable for reading mails and other pims stuffs. So, I need the two releases of kdelibs. Does someone have an idea or suggestion ? -- Stéphane Guedon page web : http://www.22decembre.eu/ carte de visite : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.vcf clé publique gpg : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.asc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources-2.6.35-r12 causes kernel panic
On 30 November 2010 11:11, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Monday 29 November 2010 18:20:56 Mick wrote: Will wait for 2.6.36 series to see if this old PIII will work. I'm running 2.6.36-r3 at the moment. You only have to add a keyword to gentoo-sources. Just compiled gentoo-2.6.36-r5. Unfortunately, I'm no closer to getting running kernel! :-( = ERROR: Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI4 ERROR: Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI6 ERROR: Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI4 ERROR: Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI6 ERROR: Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI3 ERROR: Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI7 ERROR: Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI13 ERROR: Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI8 ERROR: Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI1 ERROR: Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI12 kernel oanic -not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0) Pid: 1, comm: swapper Not taineted 2.6.36-gentoo-r5 Call trace: snip... (some trace messages which contain): panic mount_block_root kernel_init prepare_namespace sys_access kernel_init kernel_thread_helper = Any ideas? -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + NetworkManager Applet + Modem ZTE MF180
On 17 December 2010 10:54, Gary Golden m...@garygolden.me wrote: Try option kernel driver. Can you see it with lsusb? Is there any /dev/ttyUSB* ? --- Gary Golden On 12/14/2010 11:03 PM, Carlos Sura wrote: Hello mates, I'm on a Gentoo Box (my laptop) and I have a usb modem (ZTE MF180), but it just don't work with my Gentoo Box, I've been searching in Google and I found this: http://christian.amsuess.com/tutorials/zte_mf180/ I tried, but, I ejected my cdrom and even my usb modem (eject /dev/sr1) and none of this worked for me. Does anyone have this Modem working on Gentoo Linux? if so, please let me know how! However, I tried this modem with a livecd (Fedora) and it worked with the networkmanager, easy as pie!!... Is there any way to get that config (or drivers) to make it work in my gentoo box? Regards, Carlos Sura. -- Carlos Sura.- Hello Gary Golden, Thank you for answer me. Yes I can see it with: *lusb *and no there is nothing in* /dev/ttyUSB** * * The link above explains how to make it works, but I've been following those instructions and isn't working for me. Do I need to install *usbswitchmode*? by the way: Is there anyway to know what drivers and configuration is using Fedora 14, to make it easier and just take it from Fedora 14 and use it in my Gentoo ? Regards, -- Carlos Sura.-
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?
On Saturday 18 December 2010 10:18:43 Neil Bothwick wrote: I've found there's just too much overhead with distcc, plus much of the work is still done locally. I expected that but I wanted to try it to see. I have a couple of Atom boxes, a server and a netbook, and I've set up a chroot for each on my workstation. In the chroot I have FEATURES=buildpkg, using an NFS mounted PKGDIR available to both computers, then I emerge -k on the Atom box. Maybe I'll go this way instead. Thanks for the idea, which is similar to one from YoYo Siska three days ago. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?
On Friday 17 December 2010 23:23:10 Jacob Todd wrote: Could you post your distcc config files? $ extract /etc/conf.d/distccd DISTCCD_OPTS= DISTCCD_EXEC=/usr/bin/distccd DISTCCD_PIDFILE=/var/run/distccd/distccd.pid DISTCCD_OPTS=${DISTCCD_OPTS} --port 3632 DISTCCD_OPTS=${DISTCCD_OPTS} --log-level critical DISTCCD_OPTS=${DISTCCD_OPTS} --allow 192.168.2.0/24 DISTCCD_OPTS=${DISTCCD_OPTS} --listen 192.168.2.2 DISTCCD_OPTS=${DISTCCD_OPTS} -N 15 (Extract is just a mini-script to cut out comments.) $ cat /etc/distcc/hosts ostn.ethnet Ostn is the box that's supposed to do the compilation, but the Atom client box just doesn't bother trying distcc. If it had and I had an error in my config I'd have got an error message. $ grep distcc /etc/make.conf DISTCC_DIR=${PORTAGE_TMPDIR}/.distcc FEATURES=buildpkg ccache distcc fixpackages parallel-fetch userfetch Maybe another of those features is incompatible with distcc. I'd also have expected an error message in that case, but I just get a bog- standard emerge process running locally. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + NetworkManager Applet + Modem ZTE MF180
I'm not sure about Fedora, but since /dev/ttyUSB* doesn't exist then option driver isn't loaded. I have a ZTE device and did make it work with this driver. Try lsmod | grep option to make sure. It's there: Device Drivers - USB support (USB_SUPPORT [=y])│ - USB Serial Converter support (USB_SERIAL [=m] -- Gary Golden On 12/18/2010 08:10 PM, Carlos Sura wrote: On 17 December 2010 10:54, Gary Golden m...@garygolden.me mailto:m...@garygolden.me wrote: Try option kernel driver. Can you see it with lsusb? Is there any /dev/ttyUSB* ? --- Gary Golden On 12/14/2010 11:03 PM, Carlos Sura wrote: Hello mates, I'm on a Gentoo Box (my laptop) and I have a usb modem (ZTE MF180), but it just don't work with my Gentoo Box, I've been searching in Google and I found this: http://christian.amsuess.com/tutorials/zte_mf180/ I tried, but, I ejected my cdrom and even my usb modem (eject /dev/sr1) and none of this worked for me. Does anyone have this Modem working on Gentoo Linux? if so, please let me know how! However, I tried this modem with a livecd (Fedora) and it worked with the networkmanager, easy as pie!!... Is there any way to get that config (or drivers) to make it work in my gentoo box? Regards, Carlos Sura. -- Carlos Sura.- Hello Gary Golden, Thank you for answer me. Yes I can see it with: *lusb *and no there is nothing in*/dev/ttyUSB** * * The link above explains how to make it works, but I've been following those instructions and isn't working for me. Do I need to install *usbswitchmode*? by the way: Is there anyway to know what drivers and configuration is using Fedora 14, to make it easier and just take it from Fedora 14 and use it in my Gentoo ? Regards, -- Carlos Sura.-
[gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: I bought this router the other day. I notice something that is a little weird. It seems like more of the computer and electronics problems I have (or that people bring to me) are related to power supply failures than any other reason. Shot in the dark: Make sure the router is on a UPS. Often you do not have power failures, but power glitches such as low voltage, particularly if the temperature has spiked cold in your area. Of if the local power companies is a slacker, like most of them are. Some areas are frequently swung from one substation to another substation, as the power grid managers try to minimize the operational costs and balance the distribution network. This sort of activity will kill UPS and batteries, prematurely. All UPS need to be tested to ensure the batteries are good every few months. If you can wire in addition jel-cel batteries in parallel so as to extend capacity and ease the drain-charge cycles on your UPS equipment. Best thing to do, is hook up a 100 watt (150) incadescent bulb and fixture and just pull the power cord. If the light flickers or goes brown or out too soon, your UPS may need either a new battery or if your UPS power circuitry is of poor quality or old, just replace the UPS. Power quality is a big problem, the world over and often the detection requires subtle interrogation, or a purchase to fix it. A Leroy fix is to plug a smaller capacity UPS into a larger UPS that is connected to the wall outlet, to prevent voltages sags due to old or poor quality electronics of the UPS(es). If you need batteries, I know of a good (cheap) supplier for Lead_acid batteries, in the US. so just drop me a line. Another idea, find out what voltage (DC?) your router uses, if it has an external power supply; it will be marked on the power supply. If you are lucky it uses 12VDC or 5-6 VDC and you can splice in Jel-Cell batteries of the appropriate voltage, for extra energy storage or to limit voltage sag. Just some random ideas and watch out for neighbors running too many christmas lights or a welder in the neighborhood. Power quality issues usually magnify during periods of peak demand. hth, James
[gentoo-user] ARM Converts ?
Hello, I just thought I'd share ARM's vision of the future, Gentoo style, (excellent xmas presents) should anyone on this list be inclined to ARM (~4K bogomips) their way into the future. At $175 (US) this is the most outstanding bargain I've seen this Xmas: http://pandaboard.org/ digikey Just look at these specs, as this (dual cortex A9) embedded board is going to kill the Atom for mobile computing: http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/File:PandaBoard_Setup.png Thanks to Armin76 (Raúl Porcel) we also have excellent docs on how to put gentoo on this bad boy: http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/arm/pandaboard/install.xml#doc_chap10 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/?part=4chap=9# So fast that folks are natively compiling on this embedded board. According to TI, the Pandaboard is a stepping stone to the A15 TI ARM core, which will feature SATA and will appear early in 2012 to assault the server room for cheap, massively parallel ARM (A15) based systems.. (cough...cough. Atom who?) I've ordered my pandaboard and was promised delivery the second week of January, 2011. Merry Christmas to all! James
Re: [gentoo-user] install two releases of library in parallel
On Saturday 18 December 2010 11:27:06 Stéphane Guedon wrote: Hello I am writing to you in order to know if there's a way to install both 4.54 and 4.5.85 releases of kdelibs on the same computer. The problem is that : I want to use the last powerdevil, which enable better use and recognition of my laptop battery. It rely on kdelibs 4.5.85. But I want to keep the current release of kontact 4.5.4, which is quite stable and usable for reading mails and other pims stuffs. So, I need the two releases of kdelibs. Does someone have an idea or suggestion ? kdeprefix.
[gentoo-user] Re: install two releases of library in parallel
On 12/18/2010 02:27 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote: Hello I am writing to you in order to know if there's a way to install both 4.54 and 4.5.85 releases of kdelibs on the same computer. The problem is that : I want to use the last powerdevil, which enable better use and recognition of my laptop battery. It rely on kdelibs 4.5.85. But I want to keep the current release of kontact 4.5.4, which is quite stable and usable for reading mails and other pims stuffs. Hm. Looking at the ebuilds for those packages, I don't see the version numbers you mention: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9351 Dec 14 13:59 kdelibs-4.4.5-r1.ebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9306 Sep 13 15:05 kdelibs-4.4.5.ebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9356 Nov 3 09:30 kdelibs-4.5.3.ebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9353 Dec 2 13:16 kdelibs-4.5.4.ebuild Are you using a portage overlay for kde? Anyway, the older version of kontact may compile and run normally if you emerge it with the newer version of kdelibs installed. I would try it as an experiment before trying to install two different library versions.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: install two releases of library in parallel
Le Saturday 18 December 2010 18:49:08, walt a écrit : On 12/18/2010 02:27 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote: Hello I am writing to you in order to know if there's a way to install both 4.54 and 4.5.85 releases of kdelibs on the same computer. The problem is that : I want to use the last powerdevil, which enable better use and recognition of my laptop battery. It rely on kdelibs 4.5.85. But I want to keep the current release of kontact 4.5.4, which is quite stable and usable for reading mails and other pims stuffs. Hm. Looking at the ebuilds for those packages, I don't see the version numbers you mention: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9351 Dec 14 13:59 kdelibs-4.4.5-r1.ebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9306 Sep 13 15:05 kdelibs-4.4.5.ebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9356 Nov 3 09:30 kdelibs-4.5.3.ebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9353 Dec 2 13:16 kdelibs-4.5.4.ebuild Are you using a portage overlay for kde? Anyway, the older version of kontact may compile and run normally if you emerge it with the newer version of kdelibs installed. I would try it as an experiment before trying to install two different library versions. I use the kde overlay. I will try the thing you say before using kdeprefix said by Mr Volker. Thanks -- Stéphane Guedon page web : http://www.22decembre.eu/ carte de visite : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.vcf clé publique gpg : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.asc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] SIMH on AMD64
Hi, I know, the SIMH-packages are masked The only question I have is: Does SIMH simply does not run on AMD64 (or is it my fault, that trying to laod an old UnixV6 tape and booting resulting in a endless process eating up 100% of one core of my CPU...?) Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Which motherboard ?
On Friday 17 December 2010 22:52:30 Jacques Montier wrote: Le 17/12/2010 21:45, Dale a gentiment tapote: -- Jacques Site web https://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/ Mark Knecht wrote: I have no real opinion on that MB. I've never owned a Gigabyte so I don't have a real point of reference. I know other people here use them so I suspect they are fine. I personally like the Asus brand for flashing BIOS as it can be done from a USB stick. If Gigabyte supports anything like that (i.e. - doesn't require Windows or DOS or a floppy to flash BIOS) then it's probably a good candidate. Asus support isn't great. Their websites are slow and everyone seems to complain about lack of communication when they have problems. Again, I don't know anything about Gigabyte on that account. Good luck. - Mark I recently bought a Gigabyte mobo and it has Q-Flash. It will update the BIOS without needing a OS. According to the book, you just download the update and put it on a USB stick, must be FAT32/16/12, and hit the end key when the BIOS screen comes up. It sounds pretty easy. I have not done this yet tho. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) Thank you Dale, The Asus P6X58D-E motherboard seems ready for USB-3.0 Does Linux support USB-3.0 technology ? linux was the first OS to have usb3 drivers. I own an Asus and it is crap. Which might be bad luck. But from all I read over the web and all the experiences in my social circles point to Gigabyte boards as the most stable, troubleless boards at the moment, while Asus' quality went down a lot.
Re: [gentoo-user] Which motherboard ?
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Friday 17 December 2010 22:52:30 Jacques Montier wrote: Le 17/12/2010 21:45, Dale a gentiment tapote: -- Jacques Site web https://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/ Mark Knecht wrote: I have no real opinion on that MB. I've never owned a Gigabyte so I don't have a real point of reference. I know other people here use them so I suspect they are fine. I personally like the Asus brand for flashing BIOS as it can be done from a USB stick. If Gigabyte supports anything like that (i.e. - doesn't require Windows or DOS or a floppy to flash BIOS) then it's probably a good candidate. Asus support isn't great. Their websites are slow and everyone seems to complain about lack of communication when they have problems. Again, I don't know anything about Gigabyte on that account. Good luck. - Mark I recently bought a Gigabyte mobo and it has Q-Flash. It will update the BIOS without needing a OS. According to the book, you just download the update and put it on a USB stick, must be FAT32/16/12, and hit the end key when the BIOS screen comes up. It sounds pretty easy. I have not done this yet tho. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) Thank you Dale, The Asus P6X58D-E motherboard seems ready for USB-3.0 Does Linux support USB-3.0 technology ? linux was the first OS to have usb3 drivers. I own an Asus and it is crap. Which might be bad luck. But from all I read over the web and all the experiences in my social circles point to Gigabyte boards as the most stable, troubleless boards at the moment, while Asus' quality went down a lot. I agree that from reading these lists most people who buy Gigabyte seem to report being happy. It's strange about Asus. I read all this negative stuff on lists about people having trouble with Asus motherboards. However I've used them for years, having bought at least 10-12 different motherboard models in the last 15 years, and every one of them has worked great. They are still my #1 brand. I purchased 3 Intel MBs in 2010 and they have all worked fine also. Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: install two releases of library in parallel
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:20 on Saturday 18 December 2010, Stéphane Guedon did opine thusly: Le Saturday 18 December 2010 18:49:08, walt a écrit : On 12/18/2010 02:27 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote: Hello I am writing to you in order to know if there's a way to install both 4.54 and 4.5.85 releases of kdelibs on the same computer. The problem is that : I want to use the last powerdevil, which enable better use and recognition of my laptop battery. It rely on kdelibs 4.5.85. But I want to keep the current release of kontact 4.5.4, which is quite stable and usable for reading mails and other pims stuffs. Hm. Looking at the ebuilds for those packages, I don't see the version numbers you mention: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9351 Dec 14 13:59 kdelibs-4.4.5-r1.ebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9306 Sep 13 15:05 kdelibs-4.4.5.ebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9356 Nov 3 09:30 kdelibs-4.5.3.ebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9353 Dec 2 13:16 kdelibs-4.5.4.ebuild Are you using a portage overlay for kde? Anyway, the older version of kontact may compile and run normally if you emerge it with the newer version of kdelibs installed. I would try it as an experiment before trying to install two different library versions. I use the kde overlay. I will try the thing you say before using kdeprefix said by Mr Volker. Thanks You might want to review various mailing lists and research the pitfalls with this approach. kdeprefix used to be supported in the tree ebuilds but it was removed for excellent technical reasons. I don't recall off-hand exactly what those reasons were well enough to post, but it's all there in archives, and you really should become familiar with the full background.. Forewarned is forearmed as they say in the classics. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet
Dale wrote: Well so far it has been working. Maybe it got things worked out and DHCP is working it out. Maybe it needed a little training time. lol Both modem and router are set to use DHCP. I should know when I get some sleep next time. I'm not sure when that will be tho. Dale :-) :-) I took me a nice nap. I woke up and the light was red again and no internet. I accessed the router and it thinks it is up. It shows a internet IP and all. It looks normal but I can't get to the internet. I also tried to renew the DHCP settings. I was hoping it would recheck the connection between the router and modem but it didn't appear to do anything at all. The red light was still on anyway. I still can't find a setting for time outs or anything. Is this something that is set but can't be changed my the user? Any other ideas? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet
James wrote: Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gentooat gmail.com writes: I bought this router the other day. I notice something that is a little weird. It seems like more of the computer and electronics problems I have (or that people bring to me) are related to power supply failures than any other reason. Shot in the dark: Make sure the router is on a UPS. Often you do not have power failures, but power glitches such as low voltage, particularly if the temperature has spiked cold in your area. Of if the local power companies is a slacker, like most of them are. Some areas are frequently swung from one substation to another substation, as the power grid managers try to minimize the operational costs and balance the distribution network. This sort of activity will kill UPS and batteries, prematurely. All UPS need to be tested to ensure the batteries are good every few months. If you can wire in addition jel-cel batteries in parallel so as to extend capacity and ease the drain-charge cycles on your UPS equipment. Best thing to do, is hook up a 100 watt (150) incadescent bulb and fixture and just pull the power cord. If the light flickers or goes brown or out too soon, your UPS may need either a new battery or if your UPS power circuitry is of poor quality or old, just replace the UPS. Power quality is a big problem, the world over and often the detection requires subtle interrogation, or a purchase to fix it. A Leroy fix is to plug a smaller capacity UPS into a larger UPS that is connected to the wall outlet, to prevent voltages sags due to old or poor quality electronics of the UPS(es). If you need batteries, I know of a good (cheap) supplier for Lead_acid batteries, in the US. so just drop me a line. Another idea, find out what voltage (DC?) your router uses, if it has an external power supply; it will be marked on the power supply. If you are lucky it uses 12VDC or 5-6 VDC and you can splice in Jel-Cell batteries of the appropriate voltage, for extra energy storage or to limit voltage sag. Just some random ideas and watch out for neighbors running too many christmas lights or a welder in the neighborhood. Power quality issues usually magnify during periods of peak demand. hth, James I have it plugged up to the same UPS my puter uses. I changed the battery about a year ago and it is plenty large enough. It runs at about 40% load. I doubt it is a power issue. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet
Dale you still use att or bellsouth DSL ? I connect like this [10 port switch] = [linksys router running ddwrt] = [DSL modem westell 6100] I put the modem in ip passthru [1] to the router, the modem validates the connection with att and the router does every thing else. [1] http://nooone.info/downloads/IP_Passthru.png -- David Abbott (dabbott) Gentoo http://dev.gentoo.org/~dabbott/
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet
David Abbott wrote: Dale you still use att or bellsouth DSL ? I connect like this [10 port switch] = [linksys router running ddwrt] = [DSL modem westell 6100] I put the modem in ip passthru [1] to the router, the modem validates the connection with att and the router does every thing else. [1] http://nooone.info/downloads/IP_Passthru.png OK. I changed the setting and restarted the modem. I'll check when I take my next nap and see if it helps. By the way, folding stopped on one of my processes because it couldn't send in the data and get a new packet. This router better straighten up soon. ;-) It's cold and I need the heat. lol Thanks for the tip. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP I have it plugged up to the same UPS my puter uses. I changed the battery about a year ago and it is plenty large enough. It runs at about 40% load. I doubt it is a power issue. Dale :-) :-) Multiple people in the Linksys forums seem to have the same problem: http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-loses-connection/m-p/233266#M21765 http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-Losing-Connection-Frequently/m-p/206185#M19557 Note that one post seemed to consider this device as 'old' in 2008'. QUESTION: You purchased the BEFSR41 to support routing to the new machines along with the old machine, correct? The red light is on the DSL modem according to the first post. I guess that modem only has a singleLAN port? What leads you to believe the problem is with the router and not the modem? Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet
Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP I have it plugged up to the same UPS my puter uses. I changed the battery about a year ago and it is plenty large enough. It runs at about 40% load. I doubt it is a power issue. Dale :-) :-) Multiple people in the Linksys forums seem to have the same problem: http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-loses-connection/m-p/233266#M21765 http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-Losing-Connection-Frequently/m-p/206185#M19557 Note that one post seemed to consider this device as 'old' in 2008'. QUESTION: You purchased the BEFSR41 to support routing to the new machines along with the old machine, correct? The red light is on the DSL modem according to the first post. I guess that modem only has a singleLAN port? What leads you to believe the problem is with the router and not the modem? Cheers, Mark Well, before I hooked up the router, it never did this before. The only time the light was red before was when they were reseting the box up the road or my puter was turned off. Since the only thing that changed was the router, I sort of figure it has something to do with it. I have had this DSL for over a year so I would think it would have did something weird by now. If it does it again, I'm going to hook my puter back up straight to the modem and see if it works then. That should rule out any changes up the road somewhere and the modem. I'm going to read up on the links you posted. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Multiple people in the Linksys forums seem to have the same problem: http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-loses-connection/m-p/233266#M21765 http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-Losing-Connection-Frequently/m-p/206185#M19557 Note that one post seemed to consider this device as 'old' in 2008'. QUESTION: You purchased the BEFSR41 to support routing to the new machines along with the old machine, correct? The red light is on the DSL modem according to the first post. I guess that modem only has a singleLAN port? What leads you to believe the problem is with the router and not the modem? Cheers, Mark Well, before I hooked up the router, it never did this before. The only time the light was red before was when they were reseting the box up the road or my puter was turned off. Since the only thing that changed was the router, I sort of figure it has something to do with it. I have had this DSL for over a year so I would think it would have did something weird by now. If it does it again, I'm going to hook my puter back up straight to the modem and see if it works then. That should rule out any changes up the road somewhere and the modem. I'm going to read up on the links you posted. Yeah, makes sense. I use a LinkSys WRT54G for my Cable Modem ISP and a 327W for my DSL line. The only time I've had problems like you suggest were: 1) The ISP was having trouble. WIth Comcast this can go on for weeks at a time. 2) The unit was bad. In the case of #2 replacing it fixed things right up. Good luck, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet
Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Multiple people in the Linksys forums seem to have the same problem: http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-loses-connection/m-p/233266#M21765 http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-Losing-Connection-Frequently/m-p/206185#M19557 Note that one post seemed to consider this device as 'old' in 2008'. QUESTION: You purchased the BEFSR41 to support routing to the new machines along with the old machine, correct? The red light is on the DSL modem according to the first post. I guess that modem only has a singleLAN port? What leads you to believe the problem is with the router and not the modem? Cheers, Mark Well, before I hooked up the router, it never did this before. The only time the light was red before was when they were reseting the box up the road or my puter was turned off. Since the only thing that changed was the router, I sort of figure it has something to do with it. I have had this DSL for over a year so I would think it would have did something weird by now. If it does it again, I'm going to hook my puter back up straight to the modem and see if it works then. That should rule out any changes up the road somewhere and the modem. I'm going to read up on the links you posted. Yeah, makes sense. I use a LinkSys WRT54G for my Cable Modem ISP and a 327W for my DSL line. The only time I've had problems like you suggest were: 1) The ISP was having trouble. WIth Comcast this can go on for weeks at a time. 2) The unit was bad. In the case of #2 replacing it fixed things right up. Good luck, Mark I think it is a setting or something and I just can't fine it. I have clicked about everything I can think of to find something but no luck so far. I hope the IP passthrough thing will work. I hope anyway. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] modem problem : Speedstream vs Zoom
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 01:12:08PM -0500, Philip Webb wrote Thanks to both: you've solved my actual problem, but not the puzzle. I installed the Gentoo pkg 'dhcpcd' 'dhcpcd eth0' gets the I/net : clearly, this is a big step forward by ISPs since 2001 ! I can also get through this way using Mandriva's wired connection. It still doesn't explain why Mandriva's pppoe works, but not Gentoo's, but that's now hopefully moot, if nothing goes wrong again. I don't bother with pppoe because the router-modem should give you a generic ethernet interface with a static IP address. I don't bother with dhcp either. You can get by with a static RFC1918 IP address from the modem. My ADSL router modem has address 192.168.123.254 and this PC has 192.168.123.249. My /etc/conf.d/net started out as... config_eth0=( 192.168.123.249 broadcast 192.168.123.255 netmask 255.255.255.248 mtu 1454 routes_eth0=( default via 192.168.123.254 ) You can get more sophisticated. Currently, I'm at... config_eth0=( 192.168.123.249 broadcast 192.168.123.255 netmask 255.255.255.248 mtu 1454 169.254.1.3 broadcast 169.254.255.255 netmask 255.255.0.0) routes_eth0=( default via 192.168.123.254 metric 2 192.168.123.248/29 via 192.168.123.254 metric 0 169.254.0.0/16 via 169.254.1.3 metric 0 ) By setting the default route to metric 2, and the other routes to metric 0, my PC can talk to other devices here at home *WHILE THE DIALUP MODEM IS CONNECTED TO THE NET*. My backup PC is on 192.168.123.248/29 and the HDHomerun TV tuner sitting in the living room (facing the CN Tower and Buffalo) is on 169.254,xxx.xxx at the other end of a 50-foot ethernet cable. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org