Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trackpoint *and* trackpad

2011-01-09 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Sat, 01/08, James wrote: === Can you please send me the relevant snippet of your configuration? === Section InputClass Identifier synaptics MatchIsTouchpad on Driver synaptics #Option SHMConfig on Option VertTwoFingerScroll on EndSection Of

Re: [gentoo-user] No module named sqlite3

2011-01-09 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Sat, 01/08, Daniel D Jones wrote: === Is there any reason python shouldn't be set to version 3? Are there backwards compatibility issues that will break things? === Yes, many. It will be years more before the Python world is fully migrated to version 3. -- Keith Dart -- --

[gentoo-user] vlc oddities

2011-01-09 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, I am using vlc (beside other things) to watch dvb-t using this hardware (according lspci) 01:06.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) 01:06.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11) . I call vlc like

Re: [gentoo-user] Latest unstable ntp not generating ntp.drift file.

2011-01-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 09 January 2011 00:34:33 Dale wrote: I read the man pages and even used google but the part about what to log didn't register with me. Basically, I need to tell it where to put the log file, which I did, then what I want it to log as well, which I missed. Sort of like the way

Re: [gentoo-user] Cloned partition won't emerge some packages

2011-01-09 Thread Mick
On 9 January 2011 01:18, Daniel D Jones ddjo...@riddlemaster.org wrote: On Saturday, January 08, 2011 17:36:48 Mick wrote: However, I can't emerge some packages from it like gcc or subversion ... Looks to me like this is your issue: In file included from /usr/include/stdio.h:28,            

Re: [gentoo-user] Cloned partition won't emerge some packages

2011-01-09 Thread Mick
On Sunday 09 January 2011 11:28:01 you wrote: On 9 January 2011 01:18, Daniel D Jones ddjo...@riddlemaster.org wrote: On Saturday, January 08, 2011 17:36:48 Mick wrote: However, I can't emerge some packages from it like gcc or subversion ... Looks to me like this is your issue: In

Re: [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:36 on Sunday 09 January 2011, walt did opine thusly: About three years ago I spent a lot of time on the grub2 mailing list, building grub2 from their svn repo, even submitting a patch or two to get it working for the *BSD family. Then I got old and tired

Re: [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 02:44 on Sunday 09 January 2011, Dale did opine thusly: I have not tried grub2 yet but I did fine these: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 That has a lot of info on the grub2 conf file. It is called grub.cfg if I read that correctly. There is a

Re: [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: I don't quite agree with Volker's viewpoint but don't totally disagree with him either. grub2 has a whole whack of bloat all of it's own. Here's what Ubuntu has on 10.10: $ ls -al /boot/ total 17656 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2011-01-08 21:37 . drwxr-xr-x 22 root root

[gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread walt
On 01/09/2011 04:10 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 02:44 on Sunday 09 January 2011, Dale did opine thusly: I have not tried grub2 yet but I did fine these: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Grub2 http://grub.enbug.org/grub.cfg

Re: [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:48 on Sunday 09 January 2011, Dale did opine thusly: It seems grub2 is a whopper. Check this out: r...@fireball / # du -shc boot 13M boot 13M total r...@fireball / # ls -al /boot/bzImage-2.6.36-r* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4201472 Dec 15 00:16

Re: [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sunday 09 January 2011 22:04:44 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 19:48 on Sunday 09 January 2011, Dale did opine thusly: It seems grub2 is a whopper. Check this out: r...@fireball / # du -shc boot 13M boot 13M total r...@fireball / # ls -al

[gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread walt
On 01/09/2011 12:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: grub2 now looks like GNU/grub (sarcasm intended). It's not a bootloader, it's a puny OS with one extra feature - it can bootload! You remember the vi versus emacs wars?

Re: [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: It's trying to be an OS that's a bootloader as it's primary function. Think back to the days of lilo. It obviously isn't an OS and doesn't understand OS concepts - it loads an OS. When that step is done, then and only then do OS concepts come into play. lilo doesn't even

Re: [gentoo-user] Cloned partition won't emerge some packages

2011-01-09 Thread Alex Schuster
Mick writes: I used: tar -X file.list -lcvSf - . | (cd /new_gentoo_partition; tar -xpvf - ) to clone a gentoo / partition to another partition on the same disk (I want to run some tests from it). The file.list has this is in it: tmp/* proc/* sys/* dev/* etc/mtab

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Dale
walt wrote: On 01/09/2011 04:10 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 02:44 on Sunday 09 January 2011, Dale did opine thusly: I have not tried grub2 yet but I did fine these: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Grub2

[gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Nuno J. Silva
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Apparently, though unproven, at 19:48 on Sunday 09 January 2011, Dale did opine thusly: It has support for jpeg, every fs under the sun, and the grub2 ebuild even has a truetype USE flag. Does it support mp3 or ogg vorbis? Don't tell me I

[gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Nuno J. Silva
walt w41...@gmail.com writes: On 01/09/2011 12:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: grub2 now looks like GNU/grub (sarcasm intended). It's not a bootloader, it's a puny OS with one extra feature - it can bootload! You remember the vi versus emacs wars? But at least emacs is running in the operating

Re: [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:51 on Sunday 09 January 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon wrote: It's trying to be an OS that's a bootloader as it's primary function. Think back to the days of lilo. It obviously isn't an OS and doesn't understand OS concepts - it loads an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:50 on Sunday 09 January 2011, walt did opine thusly: On 01/09/2011 12:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: grub2 now looks like GNU/grub (sarcasm intended). It's not a bootloader, it's a puny OS with one extra feature - it can bootload! You remember the vi

Re: [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:51 on Sunday 09 January 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon wrote: It's trying to be an OS that's a bootloader as it's primary function. Think back to the days of lilo. It obviously isn't an OS and doesn't understand OS

Re: [gentoo-user] Cloned partition won't emerge some packages

2011-01-09 Thread Mick
On Sunday 09 January 2011 21:11:02 Alex Schuster wrote: Mick writes: I used: tar -X file.list -lcvSf - . | (cd /new_gentoo_partition; tar -xpvf - ) to clone a gentoo / partition to another partition on the same disk (I want to run some tests from it). The file.list has this is in

[gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread walt
On 01/09/2011 01:19 PM, Nuno J. Silva wrote: Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Apparently, though unproven, at 19:48 on Sunday 09 January 2011, Dale did opine thusly: It has support for jpeg, every fs under the sun, and the grub2 ebuild even has a truetype USE flag. Does it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Mick
On Sunday 09 January 2011 21:26:38 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:50 on Sunday 09 January 2011, walt did opine thusly: On 01/09/2011 12:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: grub2 now looks like GNU/grub (sarcasm intended). It's not a bootloader, it's a puny OS with one

Re: [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Mick
On Sunday 09 January 2011 21:42:22 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:51 on Sunday 09 January 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon wrote: It's trying to be an OS that's a bootloader as it's primary function. Think back to the days of lilo. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sunday 09 January 2011 23:26:38 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:50 on Sunday 09 January 2011, walt did opine thusly: On 01/09/2011 12:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: grub2 now looks like GNU/grub (sarcasm intended). It's not a bootloader, it's a puny OS with one

[gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Nuno J. Silva
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: On Sunday 09 January 2011 21:26:38 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:50 on Sunday 09 January 2011, walt did opine thusly: On 01/09/2011 12:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: grub2 now looks like GNU/grub (sarcasm intended). It's not

[gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread walt
On 01/09/2011 01:11 PM, Dale wrote: walt wrote: my grub recipe book snipped for brevity This sounds about as complicated as lilo. Much more complicated, but also more nifty :) Is this going to end up like hal? I certainly hope so! You know, so complicated that no one can use the

[gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread walt
On 01/09/2011 11:07 AM, walt wrote: One problem I encountered on my old amd32 machine is that I had to remove the USB-related grub2 modules or grub2 would crash while probing for disks. The newer amd64 machine works fine with the USB stuff included. Dunno why. By trial-and-error I found that

[gentoo-user] Re: pdf -amp;amp;gt; txt

2011-01-09 Thread James
meino.cramer at gmx.de writes: I explored the manual of that tool (pdftk) but didnt find any hint of converting pdf ot txt. Please, give me one little, a keyword, only an option which I can search for in the documentation to find out how to convert pdf to txt with pdftk. Maybe this page

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 09 January 2011 22:54:14 walt wrote: This mess goes back to IBM's decision to use the Intel 8086 CPU in their shiny new PC What? Little-endian hardware? Crackers: backwards thinking, which Americans seem to me to be prone to. And yes, I did spend two years working in Minneapolis 20

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: pdf -amp;amp;gt; txt

2011-01-09 Thread meino . cramer
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com [11-01-10 01:41]: meino.cramer at gmx.de writes: I explored the manual of that tool (pdftk) but didnt find any hint of converting pdf ot txt. Please, give me one little, a keyword, only an option which I can search for in the documentation to find out

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-09 Thread Jacob Todd
On Jan 9, 2011 8:11 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Sunday 09 January 2011 22:54:14 walt wrote: The result was a brain-dead booting scheme which has been holding back the Intel/x86 world to this very day. (But they all made a huge bundle of cash along the way.)

Re: [gentoo-user] Cloned partition won't emerge some packages

2011-01-09 Thread Alex Schuster
Mick writes: On Sunday 09 January 2011 21:11:02 Alex Schuster wrote: Mick writes: I used: tar -X file.list -lcvSf - . | (cd /new_gentoo_partition; tar -xpvf - ) to clone a gentoo / partition to another partition on the same disk (I want to run some tests from it). The file.list has this

[gentoo-user] Endless mysql-update

2011-01-09 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, since some time I got the same mysql update displayed after doing eix-sync emerge --color=n -p -v --newuse --update --deep world . How can I stop mysql from this ? Best regards, mcc

Re: [gentoo-user] Endless mysql-update

2011-01-09 Thread Dale
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, since some time I got the same mysql update displayed after doing eix-sync emerge --color=n -p -v --newuse --update --deep world . How can I stop mysql from this ? Best regards, mcc I don't use the package but this may help. Have you ran