Re: [gentoo-user] Freeing up disk space problem!!

2012-03-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 02:09:04 +0100
Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote:

  Disk manufacturers measure kilos of data as 1000
  Everyone else measures it in 1024  
 
 Well, to nitpick, they say it correctly, as for their kilo, 10^3
 bytes is correct. We, the binary folk, assert kilo to be 2^10 bytes
 which is actually called kibi, but we still use kilo in our
 everyday language thanks to historical ballast (and because, as I
 recently heard, the -bi units aren't around that long yet). First
 time I heard of them was in uni lecture ~2003±1.

Yeah, I know the reasoning they use. But the entire world and everyone
in it intuitively expects disk capacity to be measured in units of 2^X

Especially as the disk manufacturers themselves make their disks to
have allocation unit like 512, 1024 and 4096 bytes, not 500, 1000 and
4000

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Re: [gentoo-user] Freeing up disk space problem!!

2012-03-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 01:59:41 +0100, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:

 It just means that before the drive gets physically full (which means
 that files will fragment more), it will get logically full earlier.
 This is why there can be expected less fragmentation under extreme
 circumstances (i.e. an almost full FS).

And after three hours of video transcoding, you get a disk full error
instead of a somewhat fragmented file. So far, I've seen no reason to not
use 0 on non-system filesystems. After all, -m 0 only tells ext? to
behave like every other filesystem in this respect.


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I work with User-Surly Software.


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Re: [OT] [gentoo-user] Anybody have kdebluetooth working?

2012-03-01 Thread Stroller

On 29 February 2012, at 21:08, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Tuesday 28 February 2012 15:57:36 James Broadhead wrote:
 
 Please don't send html emails to the list
 
 … I have never set an option to write 
 in HTML so I shut kmail down and checked its config file. It said html-
 markup=true for some reason. So I changed it to false and I hope that's 
 cleared the problem.

It hasn't.


[gentoo-user] Awesome WM, io.popen() attempt to index io nil value

2012-03-01 Thread trevor donahue
Hi folks,
is anyone of you using awesome wm?
I've been struggling with a little bit of a problem lately, wanted to
create a widget that retrieves gmail data using curl. The problem
encountered is the function io.popen() that returns nil [attempt to index
io nil value] (as having an error in lua) even though not doing anything
special, tested also with ls -l and other trivial bash commands...

Can somebody help me resolve the problem?


Re: [OT] [gentoo-user] Anybody have kdebluetooth working?

2012-03-01 Thread Mick
On 1 March 2012 15:07, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:

 On 29 February 2012, at 21:08, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Tuesday 28 February 2012 15:57:36 James Broadhead wrote:

 Please don't send html emails to the list

 … I have never set an option to write
 in HTML so I shut kmail down and checked its config file. It said html-
 markup=true for some reason. So I changed it to false and I hope that's
 cleared the problem.

 It hasn't.

We could blame the 4.7.4 version for this, but just in case - did you
restart kmail and does the config file still read markup=false?

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[gentoo-user] Re: Awesome WM, io.popen() attempt to index io nil value

2012-03-01 Thread trevor donahue
http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.7
the doc
also found on other resources scripts using IO not io, that still aint
working...

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:14 PM, trevor donahue donahue.tre...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi folks,
 is anyone of you using awesome wm?
 I've been struggling with a little bit of a problem lately, wanted to
 create a widget that retrieves gmail data using curl. The problem
 encountered is the function io.popen() that returns nil [attempt to index
 io nil value] (as having an error in lua) even though not doing anything
 special, tested also with ls -l and other trivial bash commands...

 Can somebody help me resolve the problem?




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Re: [OT] [gentoo-user] Anybody have kdebluetooth working?

2012-03-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 01 March 2012 15:28:16 Mick wrote:

 We could blame the 4.7.4 version for this, but just in case - did you
 restart kmail and does the config file still read markup=false?

I have restarted the whole machine and I now find markup=true again. Solution: 
stop kmail, move the entire message tree and kmailrc, start kmail, import all 
messages from the old tree, import all filters from kmailrc. Only took a few 
minutes and I think I how have a clean system.

I'm sure you'll let me know if I'm still polluting the atmosphere with HTML.  
:-)

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Rgds
Peter



[gentoo-user] bind-9.8.1_p1 recompilation failed...

2012-03-01 Thread Jarry

Hi,
I just updated portage tree and as a result of that bind wanted
to be recompilled (the only difference is -static-libs%):

[ebuild   R] net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1  USE=berkdb dlz idn ipv6 ssl 
urandom -caps -doc -geoip -gost -gssapi -ldap -mysql -odbc -pkcs11 
-postgres -rpz -sdb-ldap (-selinux) -static-libs% -threads -xml 0 kB


But compilation failed with these messages:

==
libtool: compile:  x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc 
-I/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1 
-I/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/lib/dns/include 
-I../../../../lib/dns/include 
-I/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/lib/isc/include 
-I../../../../lib/isc -I../../../../lib/isc/include 
-I../../../../lib/isc/unix/include 
-I../../../../lib/isc/nothreads/include 
-I../../../../lib/isc/x86_32/include -I/usr/include -D_GNU_SOURCE 
-march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe -I/usr/include/db4.8 -fPIC -W -Wall 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -Wformat 
-Wpointer-arith -fno-strict-aliasing -c driver.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o 
.libs/driver.o

x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -shared -o driver.so driver.o
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: driver.o: No such file or directory
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: no input files
make[4]: *** [driver.so] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/bin/tests/system/dlzexternal'

make[3]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/bin/tests/system'

make[2]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/bin/tests'

make[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/bin'

make: *** [subdirs] Error 1

 * ERROR: net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1 failed (compile phase):
 *   emake failed
 *
 * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info 
=net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1',
 * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv 
=net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1'.
 * The complete build log is located at 
'/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/temp/build.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at 
'/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/temp/environment'.

 * S: '/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1'

 Failed to emerge net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1, Log file:
  '/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/temp/build.log'

 * Messages for package net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1:
 * ERROR: net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1 failed (compile phase):
 *   emake failed
==

What could be the problem? I remember just yesterday I updated
bind from 9.7.4_p1 to 9.8.1_p1, but today recompilation simply
failed...

Jarry

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Re: [OT] [gentoo-user] Anybody have kdebluetooth working?

2012-03-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 16:03:57 +
Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:

 On Thursday 01 March 2012 15:28:16 Mick wrote:
 
  We could blame the 4.7.4 version for this, but just in case - did
  you restart kmail and does the config file still read markup=false?
 
 I have restarted the whole machine and I now find markup=true again.
 Solution: stop kmail, move the entire message tree and kmailrc, start
 kmail, import all messages from the old tree, import all filters from
 kmailrc. Only took a few minutes and I think I how have a clean
 system.
 
 I'm sure you'll let me know if I'm still polluting the atmosphere
 with HTML. :-)
 
.


You might have a clean system but fifty quid says you have a clean
system with a whole lot less mail than you used to have

Yes, kmail-4.* eats mail. I talk from experience.

Feel free to ignore me if you think I'm over the top. I now have this
compulsion to bad mouth kdepim at every possible opportunity till the
devs fix it properly after losing a month of my life to having to
fiddle with kmail eternally plus losing three years of mail history


-- 
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alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [OT] [gentoo-user] Anybody have kdebluetooth working?

2012-03-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 01 March 2012 18:01:43 Alan McKinnon wrote:

 You might have a clean system but fifty quid says you have a clean
 system with a whole lot less mail than you used to have

That would be rash. My gentoo-user mail still numbers 15160 and dates back to 
a year ago. I don't notice any missing directories either, and all of them 
contain plausible numbers of e-mails.

All the same, I'm not going to start feeling smug just yet.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [OT] [gentoo-user] Anybody have kdebluetooth working?

2012-03-01 Thread Mick
On Thursday 01 Mar 2012 18:54:30 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Thursday 01 March 2012 18:01:43 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  You might have a clean system but fifty quid says you have a clean
  system with a whole lot less mail than you used to have
 
 That would be rash. My gentoo-user mail still numbers 15160 and dates back
 to a year ago. I don't notice any missing directories either, and all of
 them contain plausible numbers of e-mails.
 
 All the same, I'm not going to start feeling smug just yet.

Well, I had duplicates being created in gmail (POP3) which magically 
regenerated themselves in multiples when I tried to delete them ...  O_O

It is a bloody joke and I can't believe that the KDE devs let it loose on 
unsuspecting population like this.  I mean, people depend on KDEPIM to manage 
their affairs and businesses.  It's not as if it is some poxy eye candy 
feature.  Arrrgh!  What are these guys trying to do?  Surpass Microsoft in 
their development decisions?
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Re: [gentoo-user] bind-9.8.1_p1 recompilation failed...

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I just updated portage tree and as a result of that bind wanted
 to be recompilled (the only difference is -static-libs%):

 [ebuild   R    ] net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1  USE=berkdb dlz idn ipv6 ssl urandom
 -caps -doc -geoip -gost -gssapi -ldap -mysql -odbc -pkcs11 -postgres -rpz
 -sdb-ldap (-selinux) -static-libs% -threads -xml 0 kB

 But compilation failed with these messages:

 ==
 libtool: compile:  x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
 -I/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1
 -I/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/lib/dns/include
 -I../../../../lib/dns/include
 -I/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/lib/isc/include
 -I../../../../lib/isc -I../../../../lib/isc/include
 -I../../../../lib/isc/unix/include -I../../../../lib/isc/nothreads/include
 -I../../../../lib/isc/x86_32/include -I/usr/include -D_GNU_SOURCE
 -march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe -I/usr/include/db4.8 -fPIC -W -Wall
 -Wmissing-prototypes -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -Wformat -Wpointer-arith
 -fno-strict-aliasing -c driver.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/driver.o
 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -shared -o driver.so driver.o
 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: driver.o: No such file or directory
 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: no input files
 make[4]: *** [driver.so] Error 1
 make[4]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/bin/tests/system/dlzexternal'
 make[3]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/bin/tests/system'
 make[2]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/bin/tests'
 make[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/bin'
 make: *** [subdirs] Error 1

  * ERROR: net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1 failed (compile phase):
  *   emake failed
  *
  * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info
 =net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1',
  * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv
 =net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1'.
  * The complete build log is located at
 '/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/temp/build.log'.
  * The ebuild environment file is located at
 '/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/temp/environment'.
  * S: '/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1'

 Failed to emerge net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1, Log file:
  '/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/temp/build.log'

  * Messages for package net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1:
  * ERROR: net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1 failed (compile phase):
  *   emake failed
 ==

 What could be the problem? I remember just yesterday I updated
 bind from 9.7.4_p1 to 9.8.1_p1, but today recompilation simply
 failed...

First guess: Parallel build error. Try:

emerge --resume

and see if it gets around it. If not, try

MAKEOPTS=-j1 emerge --resume

and see if that fixes it.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] bind-9.8.1_p1 recompilation failed...

2012-03-01 Thread Jarry

On 01-Mar-12 20:17, Michael Mol wrote:

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Jarrymr.ja...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi,
I just updated portage tree and as a result of that bind wanted
to be recompilled (the only difference is -static-libs%):

[ebuild   R] net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1  USE=berkdb dlz idn ipv6 ssl urandom
-caps -doc -geoip -gost -gssapi -ldap -mysql -odbc -pkcs11 -postgres -rpz
-sdb-ldap (-selinux) -static-libs% -threads -xml 0 kB

But compilation failed with these messages:

==
libtool: compile:  x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
-I/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1
-I/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/lib/dns/include
-I../../../../lib/dns/include
-I/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/lib/isc/include
-I../../../../lib/isc -I../../../../lib/isc/include
-I../../../../lib/isc/unix/include -I../../../../lib/isc/nothreads/include
-I../../../../lib/isc/x86_32/include -I/usr/include -D_GNU_SOURCE
-march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe -I/usr/include/db4.8 -fPIC -W -Wall
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -Wformat -Wpointer-arith
-fno-strict-aliasing -c driver.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/driver.o
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -shared -o driver.so driver.o
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: driver.o: No such file or directory
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: no input files
make[4]: *** [driver.so] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/bin/tests/system/dlzexternal'
make[3]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/bin/tests/system'
make[2]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/bin/tests'
make[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1/bin'
make: *** [subdirs] Error 1

  * ERROR: net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1 failed (compile phase):
  *   emake failed
  *
  * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info
=net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1',
  * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv
=net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1'.
  * The complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/temp/build.log'.
  * The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/temp/environment'.
  * S: '/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/work/bind-9.8.1-P1'


Failed to emerge net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1, Log file:
  '/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1/temp/build.log'


  * Messages for package net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1:
  * ERROR: net-dns/bind-9.8.1_p1 failed (compile phase):
  *   emake failed
==

What could be the problem? I remember just yesterday I updated
bind from 9.7.4_p1 to 9.8.1_p1, but today recompilation simply
failed...


First guess: Parallel build error. Try:

emerge --resume
and see if it gets around it. If not, try

MAKEOPTS=-j1 emerge --resume
and see if that fixes it.


I tried but it failed again, at the same moment, with the same
messages. BTW, I have 'MAKEOPTS=-j1' in /etc/make.conf so my
compilations are not done in parallel.

I masked 9.8.1_p1 and downgraded bind to 9.7.4_p1. No problem.
Then I unmasked 9.8.1_p1 and tried again. The same error...

Jarry
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[gentoo-user] Re: bind-9.8.1_p1 recompilation failed...

2012-03-01 Thread walt
On 03/01/2012 09:55 AM, Jarry wrote:
 What could be the problem? I remember just yesterday I updated
 bind from 9.7.4_p1 to 9.8.1_p1, but today recompilation simply
 failed...

I'm getting exactly the same error, so I'd say the ebuild is broken.






[gentoo-user] MySQL MariaDB - is it time?

2012-03-01 Thread Tanstaafl

Hi all,

I just came across this thread today on the MariaDB discuss list about 
the poor stewardship of Oracle with respect to MySQL (and it references 
Oracle's track record of poor handling of the FLOSS projects it 
inherited when it bought Sun):


https://lists.launchpad.net/maria-discuss/msg00514.html

In it is discussed - among many other things including lots of good 
reason *why* - the possibility of replacing MySQL with MariaDB in 
anticipation of Oracle's current poor stewardship of MySQL...


My question is - shouldn't gentoo be considering this move as well?


I've been seriously considering this for my own servers for some time, 
and after reading this, I think it is time to stop thinking about it and 
just do it, but I'm a bit nervous - ianap, and don't want to shoot 
myself in the foot in the process.


Anyone here ever done the switch want to share their experience?



Re: [OT] [gentoo-user] Anybody have kdebluetooth working?

2012-03-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 01 March 2012 19:17:05 Mick wrote:

 Well, I had duplicates being created in gmail (POP3) which magically
 regenerated themselves in multiples when I tried to delete them

I experienced that jollity when trying to upgrade to the latest, fatally 
broken version, but no such problem with the version I was upgrading from 
(4.7.4). This version still seems reliable to me, now that I've reset it to a 
working state.

 It is a bloody joke and I can't believe that the KDE devs let it loose on
 [an] unsuspecting population like this. I mean, people depend on KDEPIM to
 manage their affairs and businesses. 

Quite agree. It's a travesty of software development, not explained even by 
Alan's analysis. These people should be given a dose of the Real World (tm).

 It's not as if it [were] some poxy eye candy feature.  Arrrgh!  What are
 these guys trying to do?  Surpass Microsoft in their development decisions?

Surpass? Is that quite the right word?   :-)

-- 
Rgds
Peter



[gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-01 Thread Grant
I just received the new Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook and I'm trying to
install Gentoo but I can't get install-amd64-minimal-20120223.iso to
boot via a USB key.  I installed it to two different USB keys via
unetbootin but I get this right after it asks for the keymap:

Looking for the cdrom
Attempting to mount media:- /dev/sda1
Attempting to mount media:- /dev/sda2
Attempting to mount media:- /dev/sda3
Attempting to mount media - /dev/sda4
Media not found
No bootable medium found. Waiting for new devices...
Could not find CD to boot, something else needed!
Determining root device...
Could not find the root block device in .

It must be reading the USB key fine or it never would have gotten that
far.  Maybe it has no drivers for the disk controller, but then why
does it reference the cdrom?  I tried the nosata and ide=nodma options
to no avail.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL MariaDB - is it time?

2012-03-01 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 I just came across this thread today on the MariaDB discuss list about the
 poor stewardship of Oracle with respect to MySQL (and it references
 Oracle's track record of poor handling of the FLOSS projects it inherited
 when it bought Sun):

 https://lists.launchpad.net/**maria-discuss/msg00514.htmlhttps://lists.launchpad.net/maria-discuss/msg00514.html

 In it is discussed - among many other things including lots of good reason
 *why* - the possibility of replacing MySQL with MariaDB in anticipation of
 Oracle's current poor stewardship of MySQL...

 My question is - shouldn't gentoo be considering this move as well?


 I've been seriously considering this for my own servers for some time, and
 after reading this, I think it is time to stop thinking about it and just
 do it, but I'm a bit nervous - ianap, and don't want to shoot myself in the
 foot in the process.

 Anyone here ever done the switch want to share their experience?



It's definitely an interesting dilemma, but one that was expected to happen
eventually. Lucky Gentoo doesn't have to worry about release cycles.
MariaDB is in portage so, in theory, it shouldn't be too difficult for any
of us to make the switch.

- Matt


[gentoo-user] Autoloading modules..,

2012-03-01 Thread meino . cramer
Hi,

I want to load snd-seq since the /dev/snd/seq device comes up with the
wrong permission, if this modules is not loaded. The result is a
defunct qjackctrl.

I entered

snd-seq

into 

/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-3.2

and it does *not* autoload.

I am running 

Linux 3.2.9 

(vanilla kernel).

What do have to do additionally to acchieve what I had intended?

Thank you very much in advance for any help!

Best regards,
mcc





Re: [gentoo-user] Autoloading modules..,

2012-03-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:22 PM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,

 I want to load snd-seq since the /dev/snd/seq device comes up with the
 wrong permission, if this modules is not loaded. The result is a
 defunct qjackctrl.

 I entered

    snd-seq

 into

    /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-3.2

 and it does *not* autoload.

 I am running

    Linux 3.2.9

 (vanilla kernel).

 What do have to do additionally to acchieve what I had intended?

 Thank you very much in advance for any help!

Probably not the answer you are looking for but, why do you not
compile the module directly into the kernel?

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] Autoloading modules..,

2012-03-01 Thread meino . cramer
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com [12-03-02 05:32]:
 On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:22 PM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I want to load snd-seq since the /dev/snd/seq device comes up with the
  wrong permission, if this modules is not loaded. The result is a
  defunct qjackctrl.
 
  I entered
 
     snd-seq
 
  into
 
     /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-3.2
 
  and it does *not* autoload.
 
  I am running
 
     Linux 3.2.9
 
  (vanilla kernel).
 
  What do have to do additionally to acchieve what I had intended?
 
  Thank you very much in advance for any help!
 
 Probably not the answer you are looking for but, why do you not
 compile the module directly into the kernel?
 
 Regards.
 -- 
 Canek Peláez Valdés
 Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
 Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
 

I heard -- not only in this list -- that loading modules, that
supports hardware, is better than integration the according 
modules into the kernel.

Best regards,
mcc





Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL MariaDB - is it time?

2012-03-01 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 2, 2012 3:50 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 I just came across this thread today on the MariaDB discuss list about
the poor stewardship of Oracle with respect to MySQL (and it references
Oracle's track record of poor handling of the FLOSS projects it inherited
when it bought Sun):

 https://lists.launchpad.net/maria-discuss/msg00514.html

 In it is discussed - among many other things including lots of good
reason *why* - the possibility of replacing MySQL with MariaDB in
anticipation of Oracle's current poor stewardship of MySQL...

 My question is - shouldn't gentoo be considering this move as well?


 I've been seriously considering this for my own servers for some time,
and after reading this, I think it is time to stop thinking about it and
just do it, but I'm a bit nervous - ianap, and don't want to shoot myself
in the foot in the process.

 Anyone here ever done the switch want to share their experience?


Back in the ubuntu-server mailing list, this has been the topic of a lively
discussion last week.

The consensus seemed to be that MariaDB and Percona would be drop-in
replacements for MySQL.

Myself, I'm a PostgreSQL guy so I have no opinion ;-)

Rgds,


Re: [gentoo-user] Autoloading modules..,

2012-03-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:36 PM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com [12-03-02 05:32]:
 On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:22 PM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I want to load snd-seq since the /dev/snd/seq device comes up with the
  wrong permission, if this modules is not loaded. The result is a
  defunct qjackctrl.
 
  I entered
 
     snd-seq
 
  into
 
     /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-3.2
 
  and it does *not* autoload.
 
  I am running
 
     Linux 3.2.9
 
  (vanilla kernel).
 
  What do have to do additionally to acchieve what I had intended?
 
  Thank you very much in advance for any help!

 Probably not the answer you are looking for but, why do you not
 compile the module directly into the kernel?

 Regards.
 --
 Canek Peláez Valdés
 Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
 Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México


 I heard -- not only in this list -- that loading modules, that
 supports hardware, is better than integration the according
 modules into the kernel.

Really? Can't recall that comment on this list. It is certainly more
work the first time you install a machine (you need to know your
hardware), but in the long run it's easier for a lot of reasons, IMHO.

I've been running my kernels with everything I need included since
ages; laptop with Intel video card, desktop with NVidia (thanks
nouveau!), and every server I run. I use the nvidia binary module in
my media center, and sometimes I install VMware or VirtualBox, and
then I have a couple of modules hanging out. But usually lsmod returns
nothing in my machines.

In particular, all my ALSA drivers are included in my kernel, and they
never give me trouble.

But of course, none of this answers your original question. Good luck with that.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] Autoloading modules..,

2012-03-01 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 2, 2012 11:25 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 Hi,

 I want to load snd-seq since the /dev/snd/seq device comes up with the
 wrong permission, if this modules is not loaded. The result is a
 defunct qjackctrl.

 I entered

snd-seq

 into

/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-3.2

 and it does *not* autoload.

 I am running

Linux 3.2.9

 (vanilla kernel).

 What do have to do additionally to acchieve what I had intended?

 Thank you very much in advance for any help!


If you are using baselayout-2, the file used to specify which modules to
auto-load has changed. For more info, please read the following :

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml#doc_chap2

Rgds,


[gentoo-user] Re: Autoloading modules..,

2012-03-01 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 02/03/12 06:36, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

I heard -- not only in this list -- that loading modules, that
supports hardware, is better than integration the according
modules into the kernel.


Nope.  It's exactly the same.  The only instance where it's better, is 
when you need to unload it again later.