Re: [gentoo-user] Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Andrew Lowe
Quoting Matthew Finkel matthew.fin...@gmail.com: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all, [snip] Any thoughts, greatly appreciated, Andrew Lowe With regard to speed, are you looking for a faster compile time or higher optimization of the

[gentoo-user] Re: Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 19/03/12 07:26, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, Has anyone played around with the various better known compilers on Gentoo? By better known, I'm referring to gcc, Intel, llvm, pathscale. My situation is that I've just started my PhD which requires me to do Finite Element Analysis, FEA, and

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-19 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 03/17/2012 05:11:23 AM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: This item just appeared after eix-sync: HTPC ~ # eselect news read 2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking Title udev-181 unmasking AuthorWilliam Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org Posted2012-03-16

Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye to gentoo?

2012-03-19 Thread v_2e
Hello! On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:44:20 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: You need to edit the file to remove duplicates and redundant mirrors (I can usually do it inside emacs in two minutes or less), and then check what files you already have in /usr/portage/distfiles (with a

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Michael Mol
FEA jobs can be parallelized, right? Take a hard look at CUDA and OpenCL. ZZ On Mar 19, 2012 1:29 AM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all, Has anyone played around with the various better known compilers on Gentoo? By better known, I'm referring to gcc, Intel, llvm, pathscale. My

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all,    Has anyone played around with the various better known compilers on Gentoo? By better known, I'm referring to gcc, Intel, llvm, pathscale. My situation is that I've just started my PhD which requires me to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all,    Has anyone played around with the various better known compilers on Gentoo? By better known, I'm referring to gcc, Intel, llvm, pathscale. My

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:48:54 -0400 (EDT), Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: And for the Lennart fanboi, his coding is so questionable that Lennartware has become derogatory slang. (Of course, you already know that.) And this is such a common term nowadays that when Googling for Lennartware only one

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:00:37 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: Personally I stopped bothering with a separate /usr ages ago, so I don't really care. Having given this some thought recently, I am coming round to the view that the problem is /usr itself. It may have had a place when boot disks were

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-19 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
i want to try this systemd thingy, where do is start at? i have a vm for testing and i might will adopt it on the real one. Thanks, Eliezer On 18/03/2012 09:28, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: it or at least try it, and given the level of discussion you present, I'm starting to think you don't

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:09:14 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Your sarcasm fails because you think that there is an intrinsic reason to keep / seperate. Well, with / filled with usefull binaries to bring a hosed system back from the garbage pile that was true for some peole. But with the

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:50:28 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: How do I find out if I am actually *using* an initramfs right now (I know it is built into the kernel), and If CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE is not set in your kernel config and you do not have an initrd line in GRUB, you are not using an

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:00:37 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: Personally I stopped bothering with a separate /usr ages ago, so I don't really care. Having given this some thought recently, I am coming round to the view that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 19:45:06 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: * Really good in-site customization: The service unit files are trivially overrided with custom ones for specific installations, without needing to touch the ones installed by systemd or a program. With OpenRC, if I modify a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 02:49:56 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: They ensure that there is an sshd configuration file and give a meaningful message (including where to find the sample) if it is not present, and check for the presence of the hostkeys (again which are needed) and create them

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-19 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
On 19/03/2012 04:03, William Kenworthy wrote: On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 18:30 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:39:59 -0500 Dale

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-19 Thread Alex Schuster
Eliezer Croitoru writes: i want to try this systemd thingy, where do is start at? http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-19 Thread Alex Schuster
William Kenworthy writes: On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 18:30 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: My laptop has used dracut since months ago, and suspends/resumes just fine, as it does my media center. Genkernel doesnt, bugs and work arounds on gentoo bugzilla, with angry comments from a dev that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 02:49:56 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: They ensure that there is an sshd configuration file and give a meaningful message (including where to find the sample) if it is not present, and check

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all,    Has anyone played around with the various better known compilers on Gentoo? By better known, I'm referring to gcc, Intel, llvm, pathscale. My

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 03/19/12 20:34, Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all, Has anyone played around with the various better known compilers on Gentoo? By better known, I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:57:39 -0400 (EDT), Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: How do I find out if I am actually *using* an initramfs right now (I know it is built into the kernel), and ls -l /boot/ will tell you. No it won't, as the initramfs can be built into the kernel image. There is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 03/19/12 17:39, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 19/03/12 07:26, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, Has anyone played around with the various better known compilers on [snip] ... ... [snip] You don't need to change compilers. You can use whatever one you like to build your program. The compiler

Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye to gentoo?

2012-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 22:44:33 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: route -n shows nothing except ppp0 (this is from ubuntu, but it was the same for gentoo when it was working) root@gnubu:~# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 03/19/12 22:02, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all, Has anyone played around with the various better known compilers on Gentoo? By better known, I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: On 03/19/12 20:34, Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all,    Has anyone played around with the

Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye to gentoo?

2012-03-19 Thread Maxim Wexler
cat files-to-fetch.lst | cut -d -f1 | wget -c -i - I know how to generate a fetch list and wget the files. The problem is syncing portage on another machine, my netbook, ubuntu-based. Or maybe, I could boot sysresc on the netbook. It's gentoo based IIRC and do a re-sync back home as per C P

Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye to gentoo?

2012-03-19 Thread Maxim Wexler
Why show us what it was when it worked? What does route -n show from your broken Gentoo now? -- Neil Bothwick Good question. Heading over there now. So if I can't get it working there's gonna have to be some awkward shuttling back and forth.

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: On 03/19/12 22:02, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all,    Has anyone played around with the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-19 Thread Bruce Hill, Jr.
On March 19, 2012 at 9:13 AM Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:48:54 -0400 (EDT), Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: And for the Lennart fanboi, his coding is so questionable that Lennartware has become derogatory slang. (Of course, you already know that.) And this

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 19.03.2012 15:11, schrieb Andrew Lowe: On 03/19/12 17:39, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 19/03/12 07:26, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, Has anyone played around with the various better known compilers on [snip] ... ... [snip] You don't need to change compilers. You can use whatever one you

[gentoo-user] *** urgent *** root needs non existing service 'fsck'

2012-03-19 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, suddenly might Gentoo system doesn't boot anymore, not normally, at least. I get 'root' needs non existing service 'fsck' but I've no idea why. rc-update -u tells me about this, as well. reemerging linux-utils and openrc didn't help. /etc/init.d/fsck is a normal file which

[gentoo-user] [HEADS UP] udev-181

2012-03-19 Thread walt
I just had a bit of a scare after updating to udev-181, but all is well now, finally. (I hope :) In addition to the separate /usr problem that has already been discussed at length here, there are other important changes in udev-181 to be aware of. First, I had to add two new items to my kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] [HEADS UP] udev-181

2012-03-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:56 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I just had a bit of a scare after updating to udev-181, but all is well now, finally.  (I hope :) In addition to the separate /usr problem that has already been discussed at length here, there are other important changes in

[gentoo-user] Re: Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread James
Andrew Lowe agl at wht.com.au writes: Has anyone played around with the various better known compilers on Gentoo? By better known, I'm referring to gcc, Intel, llvm, pathscale. My situation is that I've just started my PhD which requires me to do Finite Element Analysis, FEA, and

[gentoo-user] udev-181 and kmod vs module-init-tools

2012-03-19 Thread Paul Hartman
udev-181 merge is blocked because : [blocks B ] sys-apps/module-init-tools (sys-apps/module-init-tools is blocking sys-apps/kmod-7) [blocks B ] sys-apps/kmod (sys-apps/kmod is blocking sys-apps/module-init-tools-3.16-r1) * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot

Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye to gentoo?

2012-03-19 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Sun, 18 Mar 2012, Maxim Wexler wrote: root@gnubu:~# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 00 ppp0 161.184.0.199 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255

[gentoo-user] Re: [HEADS UP] udev-181

2012-03-19 Thread walt
On 03/19/2012 08:15 AM, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:56 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I just had a bit of a scare after updating to udev-181, but all is well now, finally. (I hope :) In addition to the separate /usr problem that has already been discussed at length here,

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: On 03/19/12 20:34, Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all,    Has anyone played around with the

[gentoo-user] ppp-gentoo woes cont'd

2012-03-19 Thread Maxim Wexler
Just got back from gentoo land. Arrrgh, gmail won't let me attach files, just sits there spinning. So I'll have to make do with pastebin. http://paste.ubuntu.com/890854/ Is a chronicle of the commands entered. First having booted and not changing anything, I do #ifconifg, then I do #route -n,

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-181 and kmod vs module-init-tools

2012-03-19 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, it worked flawless for me. Nothing bad happened. If it's a server you could also build a monolithic Kernel and remove the dependency completly since most servers don't need loadable modules. It even adds a little security-wise... with kind

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 03/20/12 00:03, Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: On 03/19/12 20:34, Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all,

[gentoo-user] [SOLVED BUT] *** urgent *** root needs non existing service 'fsck'

2012-03-19 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 03/19/2012 03:54:35 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, suddenly might Gentoo system doesn't boot anymore, not normally, at least. I get 'root' needs non existing service 'fsck' but I've no idea why. rc-update -u tells me about this, as well. reemerging linux-utils and openrc didn't

[gentoo-user] Re: Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 19/03/12 16:11, Andrew Lowe wrote: On 03/19/12 17:39, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 19/03/12 07:26, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, Has anyone played around with the various better known compilers on [snip] ... ... [snip] You don't need to change compilers. You can use whatever one you like to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 03/20/12 01:17, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 19/03/12 16:11, Andrew Lowe wrote: On 03/19/12 17:39, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 19/03/12 07:26, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, Has anyone played around with the various better known compilers on [snip] ... ... [snip] You don't need to change

[gentoo-user] Re: Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 19/03/12 19:24, Andrew Lowe wrote: On 03/20/12 01:17, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 19/03/12 16:11, Andrew Lowe wrote: On 03/19/12 17:39, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 19/03/12 07:26, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, Has anyone played around with the various better known compilers on [snip] ...

Re: [gentoo-user] [HEADS UP] udev-181

2012-03-19 Thread jason
Just a minor correction. It's CONFIG_DEVTMPFS not CONFIG_DEV_TMPFS :) I just had a bit of a scare after updating to udev-181, but all is well now, finally. (I hope :) In addition to the separate /usr problem that has already been discussed at length here, there are other important changes

Re: [gentoo-user] [HEADS UP] udev-181

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Is there an ENOTICE warning in the ebuild to hit people over the head with these? Also, how trivial would it be to have the ebuild check the running kernel config (if available under /proc or wherever) for the

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED BUT] *** urgent *** root needs non existing service 'fsck'

2012-03-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: On 03/19/2012 03:54:35 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, suddenly might Gentoo system doesn't boot anymore, not normally, at least. I get  'root' needs non existing service 'fsck' but I've no idea why.

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-181 and kmod vs module-init-tools

2012-03-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen h.v.bruineh...@fu-berlin.de wrote: it worked flawless for me. Nothing bad happened. If it's a server you could also build a monolithic Kernel and remove the dependency completly since most servers don't need loadable modules. It even

[gentoo-user] Lua libraries

2012-03-19 Thread Ignas Anikevicius
Hello everybody, I need to install luaimap4 library on my computer. I can't find any ebuilds and I was thinking Is there another way to install lua libraries, which are written mostly in LUA? I have found luarocks. Are there any other options? Thanks very much Ignas

[gentoo-user] Attachments with Yahoo Mail in Firefox

2012-03-19 Thread dhkuhl
I can't sent a reply email with an attachment when using Yahoo mail in Firefox.  However, on a Windows box it works just fine with explorer.  This seem very strange because I can create a new email and a file attaches without error, but when I reply to an email the attachment fails.  Does this

Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye to gentoo?

2012-03-19 Thread v_2e
Hello! On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:26:21 -0600 Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: ... The problem is syncing portage on another machine, my netbook, ubuntu-based. You could just download the portage snapshot and unpack it on your Gentoo machine. Regards, - v...@ukr.net

Re: [gentoo-user] ppp-gentoo woes cont'd

2012-03-19 Thread wdk@moriah
Have you checked it's not DNA related? - used IP numbers rather than urls in pings etc? Try panga/trace route to upstream IPs. BillK On 20/03/2012, at 0:33, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: Just got back from gentoo land. Arrrgh, gmail won't let me attach files, just sits

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:35:26AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote systemd is like Captain Picard of STTNG (Start Trek The Next Generation) always saying make it so. *HOW DO YOU MAKE IT SO? That intelligence has to be somewhere. So what alternative do you propose? A bash or ash script is

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:17:01 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:00:37 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: Personally I stopped bothering with a separate /usr ages ago, so I don't really care. Having given this some thought recently, I am coming round to the view

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 10:33:11 -0400 (EDT), Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: And for the Lennart fanboi, his coding is so questionable that Lennartware has become derogatory slang. (Of course, you already know that.) And this is such a common term nowadays that when Googling for Lennartware

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:58:22 -0400 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:35:26AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote systemd is like Captain Picard of STTNG (Start Trek The Next Generation) always saying make it so. *HOW DO YOU MAKE IT SO? That intelligence has

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads Up - sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20120127084908 might break your system -- openvpn still fails

2012-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:48:08 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: This appears to help with eth0 etc, but my openvpn fails with Linux ifconfig failed: could not execute external program Leaving the sbin symlink in place fixes this. I didn't see any gentoo bugs for this -- I can create a

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:11:58 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Why not connect that TV? ;) Because the hardware to do so would cost around £100, USB sticks cost rather less :P The hardware is more shiny than the USB stick. Go on, do it. You know you want to. If I had £100 to

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 01:04:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: - */bin vs */sbin is one. Nothing to do with security, but */sbin can go in root's PATH and apps that only makes sense when run as root (eg mkfs) go there. This avoids cluttering the display with useful crap from tab-completion.

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:23:51 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:11:58 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Why not connect that TV? ;) Because the hardware to do so would cost around £100, USB sticks cost rather less :P The hardware is more

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:33:39 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: As for making /usr read-only; it is generally only writeable by root and anyone with the root password could remount rw anyway, so there's not much point there. I was thinking here more of /usr mounted -t nfs root on

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-19 Thread wdk@moriah
Have two here - disk less atoms as mythtv front ends - seems a common use case in the mythtv world. And another advantage is they sidestep the whole /user mess :) BillK On 20/03/2012, at 7:49, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:33:39 + Neil Bothwick

Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-19 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 03/18/2012 06:44 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, I have never used genkernel, and have no desire to... I have no idea what dracut is or how to use it... While genkernel also can generate kernel configs for you, both dracut and genkernel are initramfs creators: they take repeated creation (after

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 19/03/2012 10:18 PM, Andrew Lowe wrote: On 03/19/12 22:02, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Andrew Lowea...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all, [snip] ... ... [snip] which currently ranks at 151 in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing compilers

2012-03-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 02:00:18PM +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote I'm looking for the faster code, the run time to be faster - I compile the FEA CFD code once but will be running many jobs. Andrew Since you're asking on the Gentoo list, can I safely assume you use Gentoo? Gentoo gives *MUCH