[gentoo-user] emerge dev-python/python-dateutil-2.1 failed (compile phase)

I'm at a loss, as to how to solve this problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated # emerge --info '=dev-python/python-dateutil-2.1' Portage 2.1.10.65 (default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.5.3, glibc-2.14.1-r3, 3.3.8-gentoo x86_64) ===

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

> I think btrfs probably is meant to provide a lot of the modern > features like reiser4 or xfs Unfortunately btrfs is still generally slower than ext4 for example. Checkout http://openbenchmarking.org/, eg http://openbenchmarking.org/s/ext4%20btrfs The OS will use any spare RAM for disk caching,

Re: [gentoo-user] Comparison between 32 bit and 64 bit

Am Dienstag, 14. August 2012, 02:39:44 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 02:23:25AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > > so all in all you got performance improvements you had to spend > > > > several > > > > hundred of dollars for just through recompiling. Should give you

Re: [gentoo-user] Comparison between 32 bit and 64 bit

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 02:23:25AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > so all in all you got performance improvements you had to spend several > > > hundred of dollars for just through recompiling. Should give you food for > > > thought. > > > > I don't understand that sentence. Where did I

Re: [gentoo-user] Comparison between 32 bit and 64 bit

Am Dienstag, 14. August 2012, 01:18:20 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:20:04AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Montag, 13. August 2012, 20:55:23 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: > > > Hey there > > > > > > As I mentioned in an earlier thread, I switched from 32 to 64

[OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

On Monday 13 August 2012 09:03:38 Neil Bothwick wrote: > The confusion arises because, when used with a name, an apostrophe is > needed for a possessive. The confusion arises because the apostrophe has two functions, which collide in its/it's. Who can tell /a priori/ which applies in any given

Re: [gentoo-user] Comparison between 32 bit and 64 bit

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:20:04AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Montag, 13. August 2012, 20:55:23 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: > > Hey there > > > > As I mentioned in an earlier thread, I switched from 32 to 64 bit after some > > convinction work done by the ML and a friend. In order to

Re: [gentoo-user] Comparison between 32 bit and 64 bit

Am Montag, 13. August 2012, 20:55:23 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: > Hey there > > As I mentioned in an earlier thread, I switched from 32 to 64 bit after some > convinction work done by the ML and a friend. In order to justify the > switch for myself, I made some performance comparisons. > > So,

Re: [gentoo-user] Comparison between 32 bit and 64 bit

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > As I mentioned in an earlier thread, I switched from 32 to 64 bit after some > convinction work done by the ML and a friend. In order to justify the switch > for myself, I made some performance comparisons. > > So, in case anyone is i

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:55:31 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:17:23 -0400 > > Michael Mol wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Neil Bothwick > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -040

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

On Monday 13 Aug 2012 18:46:22 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 06:14:11PM -0500, Dale wrote: > > Just a thought. Could it be that the text and the background is the > > same color? If you put white text on a white background, all you see is > > white which looks blank, empty

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

Am Montag, 13. August 2012, 15:13:03 schrieb Paul Hartman: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote: > > Howdy gentooers, > > > > I am looking for a filesystem that perfomes well for a cache directory. > > Here's some data on that dir: > > - cache for prescaled images files + me

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote: > Howdy gentooers, > > I am looking for a filesystem that perfomes well for a cache directory. > Here's some data on that dir: > - cache for prescaled images files + metadata files > - nested directory structure ( 20/2022/202231/*files* ) >

[gentoo-user] Comparison between 32 bit and 64 bit

Hey there As I mentioned in an earlier thread, I switched from 32 to 64 bit after some convinction work done by the ML and a friend. In order to justify the switch for myself, I made some performance comparisons. So, in case anyone is interested, here are my results. The only thing I don't re

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

Am 13.08.2012 19:14, schrieb Florian Philipp: > Am 13.08.2012 16:52, schrieb Michael Mol: >> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Michael Hampicke >> mailto:mgehampi...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Have you indexed your ext4 partition? >> >> # tune2fs -O dir_index /dev/your_partition >>

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

On Aug 13, 2012 11:04 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:17:23 -0400 >> Michael Mol wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Neil Bothwick >> > wrote: >> > >> > > On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400, Allan Gottl

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 06:14:11PM -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I have always used GRUB splashimage without genkernel and without anything > >> special to get it going other than the correct path in > >> /boot/grub/grub.conf; > >> e.g. > >> > >> default 0 > >> timeout 30 > >> splashimage=(hd0,9)/boo

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 09:03:38AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 02:43:44 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > It's easy enough: "its" = "belonging to it"; "it's" = "it is/was/has". > > The apostrophe denotes a missing letter or two, not possession. > > The confusion arises bec

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

Am 13.08.2012 16:52, schrieb Michael Mol: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Michael Hampicke > mailto:mgehampi...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Have you indexed your ext4 partition? > > # tune2fs -O dir_index /dev/your_partition > # e2fsck -D /dev/your_partition > > Hi, th

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:17:23 -0400 > Michael Mol wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Neil Bothwick > > wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > > > > > > > > I have one of those. But I decided

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote: > Am 13.08.2012 16:52, schrieb Michael Mol: > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Michael Hampicke < > mgehampi...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >> Have you indexed your ext4 partition? > >>> > >>> # tune2fs -O dir_index /dev/your_partition > >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:17:23 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Neil Bothwick > wrote: > > > On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > > > > > > I have one of those. But I decided to stick with traditional DOS > > > > partitioning style and grub instea

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

Am 13.08.2012 16:52, schrieb Michael Mol: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Michael Hampicke > wrote: > >> Have you indexed your ext4 partition? >>> >>> # tune2fs -O dir_index /dev/your_partition >>> # e2fsck -D /dev/your_partition >>> >> Hi, the dir_index is active. I guess that's why delete o

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

On Mon 13 Aug 2012 08:28:15 PM IST, Michael Hampicke wrote: I guess traversing through directories may be faster with XFS, but in my experience ext4 perfoms better than XFS in regard to operations (cp, rm) on small files. I read that there are some tuning options for XFS and small

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

> > I guess traversing through directories may be faster with XFS, but in my > experience ext4 perfoms better than XFS in regard to operations (cp, rm) on > small files. > I read that there are some tuning options for XFS and small files, but > never tried it. > > But if somone seconds XFS I will

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

2012/8/13 Daniel Troeder > On 13.08.2012 15:16, Michael Hampicke wrote: > > - about 20GB > > - 100.000 directories > > - about 2 million files > > > > The system has 2x Intel Xon Quad-cores (Nehalem), 16GB of RAM and two > > 10.000rpm hard drives running a RAID1. > 1st thought: switch to SSDs > 2

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote: > Have you indexed your ext4 partition? >> >> # tune2fs -O dir_index /dev/your_partition >> # e2fsck -D /dev/your_partition >> > Hi, the dir_index is active. I guess that's why delete operations take as > long as they take (index has to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

> > Have you indexed your ext4 partition? > > # tune2fs -O dir_index /dev/your_partition > # e2fsck -D /dev/your_partition > Hi, the dir_index is active. I guess that's why delete operations take as long as they take (index has to be updated every time)

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

Michael Hampicke wrote: > > You should have a look at xfs. > > I used to use ext4 earlier, traversing through /usr/portage used > to be very slow. When I switched xfs, speed increased drastically. > > This might be kind of unrelated, but makes sense. > > > I guess traversing through

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

On 13.08.2012 15:16, Michael Hampicke wrote: > - about 20GB > - 100.000 directories > - about 2 million files > > The system has 2x Intel Xon Quad-cores (Nehalem), 16GB of RAM and two > 10.000rpm hard drives running a RAID1. 1st thought: switch to SSDs 2nd thought: maybe lots of writes? -> get a S

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

On Aug 13, 2012 9:01 PM, "Michael Hampicke" wrote: >> >> You should have a look at xfs. >> >> I used to use ext4 earlier, traversing through /usr/portage used to be very slow. When I switched xfs, speed increased drastically. >> >> This might be kind of unrelated, but makes sense. > > > I guess tr

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

> > You should have a look at xfs. > > I used to use ext4 earlier, traversing through /usr/portage used to be > very slow. When I switched xfs, speed increased drastically. > > This might be kind of unrelated, but makes sense. I guess traversing through directories may be faster with XFS, but in

Re: [gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

On Mon 13 Aug 2012 06:46:53 PM IST, Michael Hampicke wrote: Howdy gentooers, I am looking for a filesystem that perfomes well for a cache directory. Here's some data on that dir: - cache for prescaled images files + metadata files - nested directory structure ( 20/2022/202231/*files* ) - about 2

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sandbox vs userpriv

On Mon 13 Aug 2012 05:37:27 PM IST, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan mailto:cont...@nileshgr.com>> wrote: On Aug 13, 2012 2:19 PM, "Nilesh Govindrajan" mailto:cont...@nileshgr.com>> wrote: > > What's the disadvantage of compiling in sandbox i

[gentoo-user] Fast file system for cache directory with lot's of files

Howdy gentooers, I am looking for a filesystem that perfomes well for a cache directory. Here's some data on that dir: - cache for prescaled images files + metadata files - nested directory structure ( 20/2022/202231/*files* ) - about 20GB - 100.000 directories - about 2 million files The system

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:17:23 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: > > GRUB2 works fine with MBR partition tables. But if you're starting > > from scratch, you may as well use GPT and get rid of the legacy MBR > > limitations and fragility. > > > > I'm not dissing GPT...but what's fragile about MBR? The M

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

On Sun, Aug 12 2012, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400 > Allan Gottlieb wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 10 2012, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> > You also don't need an IO scheduler - ssd access is random like >> > RAM, no heads moving in and out so no sector ordering to worry >> > a

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

On Mon, Aug 13 2012, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > > GRUB2 works fine with MBR partition tables. But if you're starting from > scratch, you may as well use GPT and get rid of the legacy MBR > limitations and fragility. OK, but what about EFI?

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > > > > I have one of those. But I decided to stick with traditional DOS > > > partitioning style and grub instead of GPT and grub2. > > > > I am leaning toward traditional partitioni

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sandbox vs userpriv

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > On Aug 13, 2012 2:19 PM, "Nilesh Govindrajan" > wrote: > > > > What's the disadvantage of compiling in sandbox instead of compiling > directly with userpriv? > > *advantage > If you do things like parallel builds (-j applied to emerge,

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

> As far as I recall the issues are with 64 bit nomultilib only. I think > I used grub-legacy on amd64 multilib without issues, though I'm not > sure since I use grub2 since 1.98 came out (without issues, by the way) You are correct. On a no-multilib 64 bit system you cannot compile grub:1 - you m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sandbox vs userpriv

Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > > On Aug 13, 2012 2:19 PM, "Nilesh Govindrajan" > wrote: > > > > What's the disadvantage of compiling in sandbox instead of compiling > directly with userpriv? > > *advantage > I found this: http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/sa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sandbox vs userpriv

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13.08.2012 10:50, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > On Aug 13, 2012 2:19 PM, "Nilesh Govindrajan" > wrote: >> >> What's the disadvantage of compiling in sandbox instead of >> compiling > directly with userpriv? > > *advantage > I think the advantage

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12.08.2012 05:10, Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> All of that is the OS, not grub which is in the MBR I think. >> emerge grub-static and then do the install as per the boot >> loader instructions in the manual. It will likely work fine >> then.

[gentoo-user] Re: Sandbox vs userpriv

On Aug 13, 2012 2:19 PM, "Nilesh Govindrajan" wrote: > > What's the disadvantage of compiling in sandbox instead of compiling directly with userpriv? *advantage

[gentoo-user] Sandbox vs userpriv

What's the disadvantage of compiling in sandbox instead of compiling directly with userpriv?

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > > I have one of those. But I decided to stick with traditional DOS > > partitioning style and grub instead of GPT and grub2. > > I am leaning toward traditional partitioning, but with grub2. Do those > two not mix well? GRUB2 works f

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 02:43:44 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > It's easy enough: "its" = "belonging to it"; "it's" = "it is/was/has". > The apostrophe denotes a missing letter or two, not possession. The confusion arises because, when used with a name, an apostrophe is needed for a possessive. Of c