Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread András Csányi
On 22 July 2013 21:57, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote: Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and purge CK from your system; I did that

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/07/13 09:11, András Csányi wrote: On 22 July 2013 21:57, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote: Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally intended. not possible, logind since systemd = 205 requires systemd and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread András Csányi
On 23 July 2013 08:54, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/07/13 09:54, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally intended. not possible,

[gentoo-user] Make BIND inject queries

2013-07-23 Thread Pavel Volkov
I have recently installed BIND as a recursive resolver for local network. I'll explain my configuration. There's a network with hosts binded to example.org domain, like host1.example.org, host2.example.org etc. They make DNS query through recursive server A. Authoritative server for example.org

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-23 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sun, July 21, 2013 01:45, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 07:02:35 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: Yes, and it's mounted ro to minimise the risk of such damage. I used to do this (keeping a rescue partitio) ... but found it was useful only some of the time. Nowadays I just

Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

2013-07-23 Thread FredL
On 2013/07/23 01:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: Sets are your friend here. I have a base set containing all the useful things I put on all installs, including the things details in the handbook like a cron daemon and system logger as well as the likes of eix, conf-update, portage-utils and emacs. Then

Re: [gentoo-user] Make BIND inject queries

2013-07-23 Thread staticsafe
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:40:28AM +0400, Pavel Volkov wrote: I have recently installed BIND as a recursive resolver for local network. I'll explain my configuration. There's a network with hosts binded to example.org domain, like host1.example.org, host2.example.org etc. They make DNS query

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:41:58 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: This isn't a rescue partition, it's just a GRUB menu entry and a copy ¬ f the ISO in /boot, so far less maintenance even than making sure a USB stick stays put. Plus it is much faster to boot. It's

Re: [gentoo-user] Make BIND inject queries

2013-07-23 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:45 AM, staticsafe m...@staticsafe.ca wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:40:28AM +0400, Pavel Volkov wrote: Sounds like you want the BIND views functionality: http://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/cur/9.9/doc/arm/Bv9ARM.ch06.html#id2591409 As I understand it, views

Re: [gentoo-user] Make BIND inject queries

2013-07-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 23/07/2013 09:40, Pavel Volkov wrote: I have recently installed BIND as a recursive resolver for local network. I'll explain my configuration. There's a network with hosts binded to example.org http://example.org domain, like host1.example.org http://host1.example.org, host2.example.org

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: [ snip ] I have several things depending on consolekit: sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5_p20120320-r2 pulled in by: gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.8.3 requires

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 23/07/2013 11:31, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: So, this implies if I want to keep using gnome then systemd is required, or use another desktop. That is something to think about. Correct. I wouldn't stress about it too much, your choice is do you want to use Gnome3 or not? And then just use

Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

2013-07-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-07-22 6:08 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder why you didn't have dbus installed. I don't have dbus installed either, but I'm still on the old udev. I've been planning on updating it this weekend (so I'll have time to deal with any issues), but when I do an

Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

2013-07-23 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 07:06:18AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-22 6:08 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder why you didn't have dbus installed. I don't have dbus installed either, but I'm still on the old udev. I've been planning on updating it this weekend (so

Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

2013-07-23 Thread Yohan Pereira
On 23/07/13 at 07:06am, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-22 6:08 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder why you didn't have dbus installed. I don't have dbus installed either, but I'm still on the old udev. I've been planning on updating it this weekend (so I'll have time to

Re: [gentoo-user] hp H222 SAS controller

2013-07-23 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Mon, July 15, 2013 09:39, Mick wrote: On Sunday 14 Jul 2013 23:35:50 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/07/2013 17:39, Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 2013-07-23 08:11, schrieb András Csányi: On 22 July 2013 21:57, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote: Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

2013-07-23 Thread FredL
On 2013/07/23 13:20, Yohan Pereira wrote: On 23/07/13 at 07:06am, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-22 6:08 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder why you didn't have dbus installed. I don't have dbus installed either, but I'm still on the old udev. I've been planning on updating

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jul 23 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote: I wouldn't stress about it too much, your choice is do you want to use Gnome3 or not? And then just use whatever Gnome3 gives as *that* part you don't have a choice about. Very clearly stated. Thanks. Currently I have gnome-base/gnome-3.6.2 with

Re: [gentoo-user] Make BIND inject queries

2013-07-23 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Tuesday 23 July 2013 10:25:51 Alan McKinnon wrote: What you want to accomplish is cache-poisoning. There's a few ways to do it, but it's not easy. You can load the customized copy of the zone onto the cache that your internal hosts use, or set up an authoritative internal-only server.

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Monday 22 July 2013 21:57:06 Michael Hampicke wrote: Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and purge CK from your system; I did that

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:31 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: [ snip ] I have several things depending on consolekit: sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5_p20120320-r2 pulled in by:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:04 AM, András Csányi sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu wrote: On 23 July 2013 08:54, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Jul 23 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote: I wouldn't stress about it too much, your choice is do you want to use Gnome3 or not? And then just use whatever Gnome3 gives as *that* part you don't have a choice about. Very clearly

[gentoo-user] Re: Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

2013-07-23 Thread Steven J. Long
Alan McKinnon wrote: dbus is NOT a desktop daemon. This is very important, and that single misunderstanding is probably behind all the fud you read about it. dbus implements a message bus - an amazingly useful thing to have. Why do you need or want a message bus? You might as well ask