Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg-server crashing constantly

2014-02-13 Thread Joseph

On 02/12/14 23:26, Willie Matthews wrote:

On 02/12/2014 09:22 PM, Joseph wrote:

I'm running xorg-server-1.13.4-r1 and XFCE using slim as login
Whenever I start tree applications like: two Firefox and try to open
Thunderbird or Thunderbird + Firefox and try to open another instance
of Firefox xorg-server is crashing and logging me out.

What I mean to say I can start any two of them but not the third one.

xorg-log is not showing anything.  It has been happening on my other
machines as well.


Have you tried starting XFCE without SLiM? What about looking at the log
files? If so you should show us everything that you looked at. We can't
give you a good answer without seeing something.

--


Willie Matthews
matthews.wil...@gmail.com
(702) 508.8455
I have my geeky moments!


I switched to xdm and I'm getting some kind of error when xorg-server crashes:

GLib-WARNING **: GChildWatchSource: Exit status of a child process was 
requested but ECHILD was received by waitpid()

I can not capture the error as X crashes so I can not copy the content of the 
screen.

and dmesg shows:

[29776.366067] xfce4-session[6723]: segfault at  ip 
7fdf8fc3ff51 sp 7fff0e9ad820 error 5 in 
libglib-2.0.so.0.3600.4[7fdf8fbd8000+12e000]
[29777.564536] composite sync not supported
[29777.663752] composite sync not supported
[29874.036048] composite sync not supported


--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Xorg-server crashing constantly

2014-02-13 Thread Joseph

On 02/12/14 23:26, Willie Matthews wrote:

On 02/12/2014 09:22 PM, Joseph wrote:

I'm running xorg-server-1.13.4-r1 and XFCE using slim as login
Whenever I start tree applications like: two Firefox and try to open
Thunderbird or Thunderbird + Firefox and try to open another instance
of Firefox xorg-server is crashing and logging me out.

What I mean to say I can start any two of them but not the third one.

xorg-log is not showing anything.  It has been happening on my other
machines as well.


Have you tried starting XFCE without SLiM? What about looking at the log
files? If so you should show us everything that you looked at. We can't
give you a good answer without seeing something.

--


Willie Matthews
matthews.wil...@gmail.com
(702) 508.8455
I have my geeky moments!


SOLVED.
It is a problem with stable: xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1
switching to unstable: xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.1
solved the problem.

as per:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-977392-highlight-libglib.html?sid=f42e37919a4446a3457be2955107bd23



--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] wget with http proxy

2014-02-13 Thread Stroller

On Wed, 12 February 2014, at 9:00 am, Raffaele BELARDI 
raffaele.bela...@st.com wrote:

 I'm setting up a dedicated firewall / http proxy-cache (Squid) for my
 home network, with user authentication in 'digest' mode. Works fine with
 browsers but sometimes emerge fails.

If I'm understanding correctly, users will have to enter a password to access 
the internet.

My experience was that some whitelisting was necessary quite aside from Gentoo 
emerges, so I'd just add some Gentoo mirrors in there as allow all sites.

Stroller.




[gentoo-user] using git to track (gentoo) server configs ?

2014-02-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger

I happily use git for local repositories to track configs in /etc or for
example, /root/bin or /usr/local/bin (scripts ..)

There is also etckeeper, yes, useful as well.

But I would like to have some kind of meta-repo for all the
gentoo-servers I am responsible for ... some remote repo to pull from.

Most files in /etc might be rather identical so it would make sense to
only track the individual changes (saves space and bandwidth)

Maybe it would be possible to use git-branches for each server?
Does anyone of you already use something like that?
What would be a proper and clever way to do that?

Yes, I know, there is puppet and stuff ... but as far as I see this is
overkill for my needs.

I'd like to maintain some good and basic /etc, maybe plus
/var/lib/portage/world and /root/.alias (etc etc ..) to be able to
deploy a good and nice standardized gentoo server. Then adjust config at
the customer (network, fstab, ...) and commit this to a central repo (on
my main server at my office or so).

Yes, rsyncing that stuff also works in a way ... but ... versioning is
better.

How do you guys manage this?

Looking forward to your good ideas ;-)

Regards, Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] wget with http proxy

2014-02-13 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
Stroller wrote:
 
 On Wed, 12 February 2014, at 9:00 am, Raffaele BELARDI 
 raffaele.bela...@st.com wrote:
 
 I'm setting up a dedicated firewall / http proxy-cache (Squid) for my
 home network, with user authentication in 'digest' mode. Works fine with
 browsers but sometimes emerge fails.
 
 If I'm understanding correctly, users will have to enter a password to access 
 the internet.
 
 My experience was that some whitelisting was necessary quite aside from 
 Gentoo emerges, so I'd just add some Gentoo mirrors in there as allow all 
 sites.
 

By whitelisting you mean allowing access to some sites without
authenticating the user on the proxy? In what cases did you find this
necessary?

I plan to deploy on the same server also a content filter (DansGuardian)
and all of this is new for me. I understood whitelisting can be done on
DansGuardian to bypass URL filtering but here you are suggesting a
different approach (bypass proxy authentication), right?

raffaele


Re: [gentoo-user] to install portage on other gentoo installs

2014-02-13 Thread Edward M
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 02:44:02 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 13/02/2014 02:40, Edward M wrote:
  Howdy,
  
  Been busy learning Linux :-) got new email other was getting
  crowded. I'm planing on installing Gentoo on a few systems and I
  was wondering to save bandwidth, i could install portage to the
  other Gentoo installs from my system instead downloading from
  mirrors? 
  
  Thanks in advance!
  
 
 Yes.
 
 The stage are just tarballs, download them once, copy to the new
 location and unpack.
 Same with the portage snapshots.
 Same with the distfiles.
 they are just files, copy them to where they need to be and use them,
 or let emerge find them.
 
 Read the install docs first and learn more about how Linux works on
 the command line. Pretty soon you'll find the bits where the manual
 says download such-and-such from this place and you'll spot that if
 you already have the downloadable file you can just use it already.
 
 
 

Alan,

  I want to apologized I did not thanked you for the great advice you
  gave me. I noticed  this this morning when I re-read my emails.

  Best Regards.   


-- 
Learing Linux with Gentoo to earn LPIC1.




Re: [gentoo-user] to install portage on other gentoo installs

2014-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/02/2014 18:35, Edward M wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 02:44:02 +0200
 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 13/02/2014 02:40, Edward M wrote:
 Howdy,

 Been busy learning Linux :-) got new email other was getting
 crowded. I'm planing on installing Gentoo on a few systems and I
 was wondering to save bandwidth, i could install portage to the
 other Gentoo installs from my system instead downloading from
 mirrors? 

 Thanks in advance!


 Yes.

 The stage are just tarballs, download them once, copy to the new
 location and unpack.
 Same with the portage snapshots.
 Same with the distfiles.
 they are just files, copy them to where they need to be and use them,
 or let emerge find them.

 Read the install docs first and learn more about how Linux works on
 the command line. Pretty soon you'll find the bits where the manual
 says download such-and-such from this place and you'll spot that if
 you already have the downloadable file you can just use it already.



 
 Alan,
 
   I want to apologized I did not thanked you for the great advice you
   gave me. I noticed  this this morning when I re-read my emails.
 
   Best Regards.   


No problem. Come check my inbox sometime, any given mail stands a 1 in 3
chance of being answered at all :-)

I see earlier in the thread someone mentioned sharing the portage tree
over NFS. Now this is by far the best solution of all in terms of
outright performance; but be warned up front - there are pitfalls.

NFS is nothing like setting up a Windows share, and there's nothing
about it that just magically works. Folks new to Linux often have heaps
of trouble with it (mostly because NFS assumes you are going to do a
whole lot of heavy lifting yourself and you have already dealt with the
tricky issue of keeping user accounts in sync, and permission woes). So
by all means use NFS, just know upfront the learning curve is steepish,
and the good folks on this list can give tons of good advice as well as
get you through the arcane basics :-)





-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




[gentoo-user] Mouse dies after a few minutes

2014-02-13 Thread Andrew Lowe
Hi all,
I'm running a 64 bit KDE setup in a laptop. In the last few days, the
mouse has become erratic and in fact dies after a bit of usage.

When KDE fires up, and I'm presented with the login dialogue, the mouse
will work for a few seconds, up to 30 say, then it freezes. If I get in
quick and enter the username/password, the mouse pointer will change
from the black login pointer to a slightly different shaped white
pointer and then freeze. The login process will continue and present me
with my environment, but no mouse. A Cntl-Alt-Del will bring up the Log
out/shutdown/restart dialogue and I can use the keyboard to select
either shutdown or restart.

The thing that is freaky is that this happens if the laptop is
running from batteries. If I have the machine plugged into the wall,
this problem does not exist.

Has anyone come across a problem like this? Any thoughts, greatly
appreciated.

Andrew



Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse dies after a few minutes

2014-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/02/2014 19:08, Andrew Lowe wrote:
 Hi all,
   I'm running a 64 bit KDE setup in a laptop. In the last few days, the
 mouse has become erratic and in fact dies after a bit of usage.
 
   When KDE fires up, and I'm presented with the login dialogue, the mouse
 will work for a few seconds, up to 30 say, then it freezes. If I get in
 quick and enter the username/password, the mouse pointer will change
 from the black login pointer to a slightly different shaped white
 pointer and then freeze. The login process will continue and present me
 with my environment, but no mouse. A Cntl-Alt-Del will bring up the Log
 out/shutdown/restart dialogue and I can use the keyboard to select
 either shutdown or restart.
 
   The thing that is freaky is that this happens if the laptop is
 running from batteries. If I have the machine plugged into the wall,
 this problem does not exist.
 
   Has anyone come across a problem like this? Any thoughts, greatly
 appreciated.

Check that you don't have usb power saving enabled for all devices when
on battery.

I've run into this before and it's enough to drive one nuts :-) My
previous laptop was especially bad - super keen to shut down the usb
port after 30 seconds of inactivity and very very loathe to getting
around to waking it up again.

Powerdevil has gone through some changes over the past period, there
might be a new default in place that you aren't aware of yet.

powertop is a very useful tool for info about what power saving features
are active.


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse dies after a few minutes

2014-02-13 Thread Lee
Either that, or the battery is going bad - the mouse is drawing more
current than the battery can supply.
On Feb 13, 2014 9:13 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 13/02/2014 19:08, Andrew Lowe wrote:
  Hi all,
I'm running a 64 bit KDE setup in a laptop. In the last few days,
 the
  mouse has become erratic and in fact dies after a bit of usage.
 
When KDE fires up, and I'm presented with the login dialogue, the
 mouse
  will work for a few seconds, up to 30 say, then it freezes. If I get in
  quick and enter the username/password, the mouse pointer will change
  from the black login pointer to a slightly different shaped white
  pointer and then freeze. The login process will continue and present me
  with my environment, but no mouse. A Cntl-Alt-Del will bring up the Log
  out/shutdown/restart dialogue and I can use the keyboard to select
  either shutdown or restart.
 
The thing that is freaky is that this happens if the laptop is
  running from batteries. If I have the machine plugged into the wall,
  this problem does not exist.
 
Has anyone come across a problem like this? Any thoughts, greatly
  appreciated.

 Check that you don't have usb power saving enabled for all devices when
 on battery.

 I've run into this before and it's enough to drive one nuts :-) My
 previous laptop was especially bad - super keen to shut down the usb
 port after 30 seconds of inactivity and very very loathe to getting
 around to waking it up again.

 Powerdevil has gone through some changes over the past period, there
 might be a new default in place that you aren't aware of yet.

 powertop is a very useful tool for info about what power saving features
 are active.


 --
 Alan McKinnon
 alan.mckin...@gmail.com





Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Xorg-server crashing constantly

2014-02-13 Thread Willie Matthews
On 02/13/2014 06:17 AM, Joseph wrote:
 On 02/12/14 23:26, Willie Matthews wrote:
 On 02/12/2014 09:22 PM, Joseph wrote:
 I'm running xorg-server-1.13.4-r1 and XFCE using slim as login
 Whenever I start tree applications like: two Firefox and try to open
 Thunderbird or Thunderbird + Firefox and try to open another instance
 of Firefox xorg-server is crashing and logging me out.

 What I mean to say I can start any two of them but not the third one.

 xorg-log is not showing anything.  It has been happening on my other
 machines as well.

 Have you tried starting XFCE without SLiM? What about looking at the log
 files? If so you should show us everything that you looked at. We can't
 give you a good answer without seeing something.

 -- 


 Willie Matthews
 matthews.wil...@gmail.com
 (702) 508.8455
 I have my geeky moments!

 SOLVED.
 It is a problem with stable: xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1
 switching to unstable: xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.1
 solved the problem.

 as per:
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-977392-highlight-libglib.html?sid=f42e37919a4446a3457be2955107bd23




I come back and read your emails and you have it all solved already.
Gotta love those log files.

-- 


 Willie Matthews
 matthews.wil...@gmail.com
 (702) 508.8455
 I have my geeky moments!




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Re: [gentoo-user] to install portage on other gentoo installs

2014-02-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 13 February 2014 17:55:19 CET, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13/02/2014 18:35, Edward M wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 02:44:02 +0200
 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 13/02/2014 02:40, Edward M wrote:
 Howdy,

 Been busy learning Linux :-) got new email other was getting
 crowded. I'm planing on installing Gentoo on a few systems and I
 was wondering to save bandwidth, i could install portage to the
 other Gentoo installs from my system instead downloading from
 mirrors? 

 Thanks in advance!


 Yes.

 The stage are just tarballs, download them once, copy to the new
 location and unpack.
 Same with the portage snapshots.
 Same with the distfiles.
 they are just files, copy them to where they need to be and use
them,
 or let emerge find them.

 Read the install docs first and learn more about how Linux works on
 the command line. Pretty soon you'll find the bits where the manual
 says download such-and-such from this place and you'll spot that
if
 you already have the downloadable file you can just use it already.



 
 Alan,
 
   I want to apologized I did not thanked you for the great advice you
   gave me. I noticed  this this morning when I re-read my emails.
 
   Best Regards.   


No problem. Come check my inbox sometime, any given mail stands a 1 in
3
chance of being answered at all :-)

I see earlier in the thread someone mentioned sharing the portage tree
over NFS. Now this is by far the best solution of all in terms of
outright performance; but be warned up front - there are pitfalls.

NFS is nothing like setting up a Windows share, and there's nothing
about it that just magically works. Folks new to Linux often have heaps
of trouble with it (mostly because NFS assumes you are going to do a
whole lot of heavy lifting yourself and you have already dealt with the
tricky issue of keeping user accounts in sync, and permission woes). So
by all means use NFS, just know upfront the learning curve is steepish,
and the good folks on this list can give tons of good advice as well as
get you through the arcane basics :-)

If you want to do NFS. Let us know. 
It can be done easier then Alan makes out. But you then need to ensure only 
your machines are connected to the network.

In simple terms:
Configure NFS to allow every user from any machine (or network ip range) has 
access to the files. The NFS server can be told to replace any connecting user 
with a single user on the server.

That is what I do. With a good firewall preventing non wired owned machines to 
have any access.

--
Joost
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.



Re: [gentoo-user] to install portage on other gentoo installs

2014-02-13 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Thursday 13 February 2014 11:41 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
 On 13 February 2014 17:55:19 CET, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On 13/02/2014 18:35, Edward M wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 02:44:02 +0200
 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 13/02/2014 02:40, Edward M wrote:
 Howdy,

 Been busy learning Linux :-) got new email other was getting
 crowded. I'm planing on installing Gentoo on a few systems and I
 was wondering to save bandwidth, i could install portage to the
 other Gentoo installs from my system instead downloading from
 mirrors? 

 Thanks in advance!


 Yes.

 The stage are just tarballs, download them once, copy to the new
 location and unpack.
 Same with the portage snapshots.
 Same with the distfiles.
 they are just files, copy them to where they need to be and use
 them,
 or let emerge find them.

 Read the install docs first and learn more about how Linux works on
 the command line. Pretty soon you'll find the bits where the manual
 says download such-and-such from this place and you'll spot that
 if
 you already have the downloadable file you can just use it already.




 Alan,

   I want to apologized I did not thanked you for the great advice you
   gave me. I noticed  this this morning when I re-read my emails.

   Best Regards.   


 No problem. Come check my inbox sometime, any given mail stands a 1 in
 3
 chance of being answered at all :-)

 I see earlier in the thread someone mentioned sharing the portage tree
 over NFS. Now this is by far the best solution of all in terms of
 outright performance; but be warned up front - there are pitfalls.

 NFS is nothing like setting up a Windows share, and there's nothing
 about it that just magically works. Folks new to Linux often have heaps
 of trouble with it (mostly because NFS assumes you are going to do a
 whole lot of heavy lifting yourself and you have already dealt with the
 tricky issue of keeping user accounts in sync, and permission woes). So
 by all means use NFS, just know upfront the learning curve is steepish,
 and the good folks on this list can give tons of good advice as well as
 get you through the arcane basics :-)
 
 If you want to do NFS. Let us know. 
 It can be done easier then Alan makes out. But you then need to ensure only 
 your machines are connected to the network.
 
 In simple terms:
 Configure NFS to allow every user from any machine (or network ip range) has 
 access to the files. The NFS server can be told to replace any connecting 
 user with a single user on the server.
 
 That is what I do. With a good firewall preventing non wired owned machines 
 to have any access.
 
 --
 Joost
 

My favorite firewall rule to do this don't restrict any kind of traffic
between own network and filter the rest.
Use ipset. Very easy.



Re: [gentoo-user] wget with http proxy

2014-02-13 Thread Stroller

On Thu, 13 February 2014, at 4:28 pm, Raffaele BELARDI 
raffaele.bela...@st.com wrote:
 ...
 If I'm understanding correctly, users will have to enter a password to 
 access the internet.
 
 My experience was that some whitelisting was necessary quite aside from 
 Gentoo emerges, so I'd just add some Gentoo mirrors in there as allow all 
 sites.
 
 By whitelisting you mean allowing access to some sites without
 authenticating the user on the proxy? In what cases did you find this
 necessary?

It's been several years since I did this, so my memory may be hazy on the 
details.

Desktop PCs were running Windows XP, and there was an SBS 2003 server that 
provided roaming profiles, so the demanding part was getting Squid to do auth 
via a Samba winbind PAM module. 

As I recall the office admin staff, or certain of them, had been spending too 
much time pissing about on Facebook and were too busy to answer the phone.

I think the original claim that that these pen-pushers didn't need internet 
access to do their jobs so all sites would be blocked, and the boss wanted 
unlimited web access, unlocked by his password (actually winbind saved him 
doing that, because he was already logged into the domain). 

It turned out that the clerical staff had all been regularly and legitimately 
using Google Maps, gov.uk sites and a bunch of others in the course of their 
duties, so these had to be whitelisted. 

 I plan to deploy on the same server also a content filter (DansGuardian)
 and all of this is new for me. I understood whitelisting can be done on
 DansGuardian to bypass URL filtering but here you are suggesting a
 different approach (bypass proxy authentication), right?

I don't really care where you do it, TBH.

In the case I've described above, I'm not sure that the boss handled it so well 
- he went for this draconian filter everything approach because he let 
himself get too annoyed at his staff instead of saying listen guys, you can't 
be on Facebook when the work's not getting done.

So I think in this case, we simply had a couple of directives in 
/etc/squid/squid.conf which said users in the web group = allow all, otherwise 
deny. Then when we added the whitelist, we inserted a statement (before or 
between those previous two) that allowed any URLs or domains in a 
/etc/squid/whitelist.txt file we created. 

Maybe this example, of the boss going overboard, isn't the best one, but IMO it 
doesn't pay to treat your employees like children. If someone's surfing 
hardcore porn at work then everyone knows about it and the answer isn't to stop 
a bad employee doing this one particular thing you disapprove of (because he's 
sure to be doing other things you don't know about; you stop that one bad 
behaviour, and he goes and does something else), it's to get rid of or 
rehabilitate bad employees. 

There's always more than one way of doing things, and there are always going to 
be exceptions to any rule you create. You can find some way to make Portage / 
wget / curl authenticate against the proxy, or you can just whitelist the 
Gentoo box's URL (if it's a single server inside the LAN). You can do a network 
shared DISTDIR / PKGDIR / PORTDIR, or you can just whitelist anything you put 
in GENTOO_MIRRORS. I found whitelisting very easy and straightforward, though. 

Stroller.




[gentoo-user] Roland Boss Linux Drivers

2014-02-13 Thread Lee
The Boss BR-80 and BR-800 digital recorders use USB drivers for windows and
apple to connect to pc. The manual says these drivers are needed - I think
it has a proprietary partitioning scheme.

I was wondering if the kernel has included modules that work with the Boss
recorders so one can connect them to a linux box.


Re: [gentoo-user] to install portage on other gentoo installs

2014-02-13 Thread Edward M
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 18:55:19 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 13/02/2014 18:35, Edward M wrote:
  On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 02:44:02 +0200
  Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  On 13/02/2014 02:40, Edward M wrote:
  Howdy,
 
  Been busy learning Linux :-) got new email other was getting
  crowded. I'm planing on installing Gentoo on a few systems and I
  was wondering to save bandwidth, i could install portage to the
  other Gentoo installs from my system instead downloading from
  mirrors? 
 
  Thanks in advance!
 
 
  Yes.
 
  The stage are just tarballs, download them once, copy to the new
  location and unpack.
  Same with the portage snapshots.
  Same with the distfiles.
  they are just files, copy them to where they need to be and use
  them, or let emerge find them.
 
  Read the install docs first and learn more about how Linux works on
  the command line. Pretty soon you'll find the bits where the manual
  says download such-and-such from this place and you'll spot that
  if you already have the downloadable file you can just use it
  already.
 
 
 
  
  Alan,
  
I want to apologized I did not thanked you for the great advice
  you gave me. I noticed  this this morning when I re-read my emails.
  
Best Regards.   
 
 
 No problem. Come check my inbox sometime, any given mail stands a 1
 in 3 chance of being answered at all :-)
 
 I see earlier in the thread someone mentioned sharing the portage tree
 over NFS. Now this is by far the best solution of all in terms of
 outright performance; but be warned up front - there are pitfalls.
 
 NFS is nothing like setting up a Windows share, and there's nothing
 about it that just magically works. Folks new to Linux often have
 heaps of trouble with it (mostly because NFS assumes you are going to
 do a whole lot of heavy lifting yourself and you have already dealt
 with the tricky issue of keeping user accounts in sync, and
 permission woes). So by all means use NFS, just know upfront the
 learning curve is steepish, and the good folks on this list can give
 tons of good advice as well as get you through the arcane basics :-)
 
   
  Thank you for this valuable advice. 
  I have been doing some research using bing and google and I found some
  howtos,docs setting up NFS portage. hope they work.  thanks again

-- 
Learing Linux with Gentoo to earn LPIC1.




Re: [gentoo-user] to install portage on other gentoo installs

2014-02-13 Thread Edward M
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 00:13:19 +0530
Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote:

 My favorite firewall rule to do this don't restrict any kind of
 traffic between own network and filter the rest.
 Use ipset. Very easy.

  I have zero  knowledge how ipsec works. once i have nfs set i'll do
  ipsec second. nfs will be in my private network for my gentoo
  systems(laptops,server,client) boxes.  thanks for the tip. 

-- 
Learing Linux with Gentoo to earn LPIC1.




Re: [gentoo-user] to install portage on other gentoo installs

2014-02-13 Thread William Kenworthy
On 14/02/14 14:59, Edward M wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 18:55:19 +0200
 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 13/02/2014 18:35, Edward M wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 02:44:02 +0200
 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 13/02/2014 02:40, Edward M wrote:
 Howdy,

 Been busy learning Linux :-) got new email other was getting
 crowded. I'm planing on installing Gentoo on a few systems and I
 was wondering to save bandwidth, i could install portage to the
 other Gentoo installs from my system instead downloading from
 mirrors? 

 Thanks in advance!


 Yes.

 The stage are just tarballs, download them once, copy to the new
 location and unpack.
 Same with the portage snapshots.
 Same with the distfiles.
 they are just files, copy them to where they need to be and use
 them, or let emerge find them.

 Read the install docs first and learn more about how Linux works on
 the command line. Pretty soon you'll find the bits where the manual
 says download such-and-such from this place and you'll spot that
 if you already have the downloadable file you can just use it
 already.




 Alan,

   I want to apologized I did not thanked you for the great advice
 you gave me. I noticed  this this morning when I re-read my emails.

   Best Regards.   


 No problem. Come check my inbox sometime, any given mail stands a 1
 in 3 chance of being answered at all :-)

 I see earlier in the thread someone mentioned sharing the portage tree
 over NFS. Now this is by far the best solution of all in terms of
 outright performance; but be warned up front - there are pitfalls.

 NFS is nothing like setting up a Windows share, and there's nothing
 about it that just magically works. Folks new to Linux often have
 heaps of trouble with it (mostly because NFS assumes you are going to
 do a whole lot of heavy lifting yourself and you have already dealt
 with the tricky issue of keeping user accounts in sync, and
 permission woes). So by all means use NFS, just know upfront the
 learning curve is steepish, and the good folks on this list can give
 tons of good advice as well as get you through the arcane basics :-)
  

   Thank you for this valuable advice. 
   I have been doing some research using bing and google and I found some
   howtos,docs setting up NFS portage. hope they work.  thanks again
 

An easier method than NFS that avoids some of the pitfalls is
http-replicator.  Works like an upstream mirror - the first request
causes the files to be downloaded to the cache and supplied to the host
- then the next host to need the same files gets served from the cache.
 Also handles parallel requests unlike NFS.

BillK




Re: [gentoo-user] to install portage on other gentoo installs

2014-02-13 Thread Edward M
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 19:11:44 +0100
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:

 If you want to do NFS. Let us know.
 It can be done easier then Alan makes out. But you then need to
 ensure only your machines are connected to the network.
 
 That is so kind of you. when i have problems i will ask for help
 thank you. 


 In simple terms:
 Configure NFS to allow every user from any machine (or network ip
 range) has access to the files. The NFS server can be told to replace
 any connecting user with a single user on the server.
 
 That is what I do. With a good firewall preventing non wired owned
 machines to have any access.
 
   ipsec was mentioned i may need to use this. The nfs will be  in my
   LAN. i think ipsec may be better  just realized my cable modem
   has firewall built in will that interfere with ipsec?
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Re: [gentoo-user] to install portage on other gentoo installs

2014-02-13 Thread Edward M
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 15:14:05 +0800
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 An easier method than NFS that avoids some of the pitfalls is
 http-replicator.  Works like an upstream mirror - the first request
 causes the files to be downloaded to the cache and supplied to the
 host
 - then the next host to need the same files gets served from the
 cache. Also handles parallel requests unlike NFS.
 
 BillK

This also sounds good. Can I emerge-webrsync then use this to supply
the newest portage to my other Gentoo systems?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Roland Boss Linux Drivers

2014-02-13 Thread Edward M
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:28 -0800
Lee ny6...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Boss BR-80 and BR-800 digital recorders use USB drivers for
 windows and apple to connect to pc. The manual says these drivers are
 needed - I think it has a proprietary partitioning scheme.
 
 I was wondering if the kernel has included modules that work with the
 Boss recorders so one can connect them to a linux box.


I am thinking about using one as a sound card in Gentoo.
I found this and book marked it. it is for ubuntu but it may
also apply to Gentoo:
  
http://org0ne.livejournal.com/29979.html


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Best regards,
Edward M. 

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