Hello,
I'm planning to run GlassFish on my server. I'm pondering whether I
should just go away with the default icedtea-bin package or use
oracle-jdk-bin.
I'll be renting out services to customers, so compatibility is
definitely a concern. I'm not exactly sure what the differences are
between
On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
For Slackware, I have no idea. For Debian, no the only options were[1]:
1. sysvinit (status quo)
2. systemd
3. upstart
4. openrc (experimental)
5. One system on Linux, something else on non-linux
6. multiple
It should also be
On 16/02/2014 17:46, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
For Slackware, I have no idea. For Debian, no the only options were[1]:
1. sysvinit (status quo)
2. systemd
3. upstart
4. openrc (experimental)
5. One system on Linux, something else on
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
For Slackware, I have no idea. For Debian, no the only options were[1]:
1. sysvinit (status quo)
2. systemd
3. upstart
4. openrc (experimental)
5.
On 16/02/14 18:41, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 16/02/2014 17:46, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
For Slackware, I have no idea. For Debian, no the only options were[1]:
1. sysvinit (status quo)
2. systemd
3. upstart
4. openrc (experimental)
On Sunday 16 Feb 2014 16:50:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
wrote:
On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
For Slackware, I have no idea. For Debian, no the only options were[1]:
1. sysvinit
Am 15.02.2014 16:16, schrieb Tanstaafl:
Hi all,
Not to revive a flame-fest against systemd, but...
I'm sure some or most of you have already heard about this, but I
found a really decent thread discussing this whole systemd thing. It
is only really comparing systemd and upstart, as that was
Am 16.02.2014 17:50, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
For Slackware, I have no idea. For Debian, no the only options were[1]:
1. sysvinit (status quo)
2.
On 16.02.2014 20:50, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
[ ... ]
It's because they are cons only if you agree with systemd's view of the world.
I do.
Isn't there too many if you believe and if you agree? A church of
systemd? ;)
I wonder why all systemd's fancy stuff hasn't yet been integrated into
On Sunday 16 Feb 2014 19:00:43 Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
On 16.02.2014 20:50, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
[ ... ]
It's because they are cons only if you agree with systemd's view of the
world.
I do.
Isn't there too many if you believe and if you agree? A church of
systemd? ;)
I
On 16.02.2014 23:26, Mick wrote:
On Sunday 16 Feb 2014 19:00:43 Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
[ ... ]
But why then is Linux drifting to systemd? The answer is simple: money.
Time is money. You have to support two init systems - twice the time,
twice the money. Sooner or later, a sum of money will
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
[ snip ]
well or does better than other init process start up systems. The main
objection from what I understand is the removal of choice that systemd
developers have forced upon users, by making certain architectural
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
[ snip ]
or it is an idiotic decision. Because features means complexity.
Yeah, like the kernel.
Complexity means bugs.
Bugs get reported, bugs get fixes. Life goes on.
And you don't want complexity in
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff yks-...@yandex.ru wrote:
[ snip ]
Isn't there too many if you believe and if you agree? A church of
systemd? ;)
As I said to Tanstaafl, it gets kind of philosophical.
Technically, systemd is the obvious superior choice, and that's why
the TC
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
You may have lost it in the link that Volker posted (thanks Volker), but this
comment from HaakonKL probably sums it up:
... I will give Upstart this though: Should something better come along, you
could replace
Am 16.02.2014 21:27, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
You may have lost it in the link that Volker posted (thanks Volker), but this
comment from HaakonKL probably sums it up:
... I will give Upstart this though: Should
Am 16.02.2014 21:08, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
[ snip ]
or it is an idiotic decision. Because features means complexity.
Yeah, like the kernel.
Complexity means bugs.
Bugs get reported, bugs get
Am 16.02.2014 21:19, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
Why GNOME started using it?
because of redhat.
Seriously, you had to ask that?
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 16.02.2014 21:08, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
[ snip ]
or it is an idiotic decision. Because features means
On 16/02/2014 20:11, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 16/02/14 18:41, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 16/02/2014 17:46, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
For Slackware, I have no idea. For Debian, no the only options were[1]:
1. sysvinit (status quo)
2.
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:14:24 +0530
Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote:
rvices to customers, so compatibility is
definitely a concern. I'm not exactly sure what the differences are
between Oracle JDK OpenJDK; the differences I found so far on Google
are old and make sense only for
On 16/02/14 23:28, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 16/02/2014 20:11, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 16/02/14 18:41, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 16/02/2014 17:46, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
For Slackware, I have no idea. For Debian, no the only options
17.02.2014 00:19, Canek Peláez Valdés пишет:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff yks-...@yandex.ru wrote:
[ snip ]
Isn't there too many if you believe and if you agree? A church of
systemd? ;)
As I said to Tanstaafl, it gets kind of philosophical.
Even religious.
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