Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/08/2014 07:27, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 17.08.2014 um 23:09 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 17/08/2014 20:47, Henrique Lengler wrote: I don't know why KDE people are creating everything again. koffice, konqueror, a lot of things, that already exists in the linux world are being

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Nikita Tropin
May be DeadBeeF will suit your needs? I'm using it almost as is but it can be well configured to look similarly to your screenshot. But you will need to configure it yourself to look like screenshot. It has lyrics plugin and can be used with both GTK2 and GTK3. About analog of KRunner I don't know

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 17 August 2014 23:09:24 Alan McKinnon wrote: Take kparts and kioslaves. KDE treats as much as possible as some sort of plugin that all KDE apps can share. This gives the user a fantastic degree of abstraction because anything that represents data can be a kpart. NFS mounts, smb

[gentoo-user] bash script question

2014-08-18 Thread Adam Carter
I want to use an if/then that tests for the existence of a string in 4 files. Usually I do this by checking the exit code of grep, when i'm checking a single file. However, I cant get the syntax right for multiple checks. To troubleshoot I’ve dropped back to just checking two files, and i’ve

Re: [gentoo-user] bash script question

2014-08-18 Thread wraeth
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 18:54 +1000, Adam Carter wrote: But this matches if grep fails both times as well as when it matches both time. Any ideas? If you don't mind using a quick loop, you could use something like: n=0 for f in file1.txt file2.txt file3.txt file4.txt; do grep 'string' ${f}

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Mick
On Monday 18 Aug 2014 09:20:17 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 17 August 2014 23:09:24 Alan McKinnon wrote: Take kparts and kioslaves. KDE treats as much as possible as some sort of plugin that all KDE apps can share. This gives the user a fantastic degree of abstraction because anything

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread wraeth
On Sat, 2014-08-16 at 20:43 +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote: So can you please tell me why you have chosen a specific DE and not the other options ? thanks. I think the key argument for a DE is integration - all the k* apps built to use k* libraries and backends, allowing them to share data and

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread wraeth
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 20:17 +1000, wraeth wrote: (which, admittedly, has it's own issues, but hasn't eaten my mail yet). Addendum: Possibly in a fit of irony, sending my last mail decided to stall evolution's back-end (the mail sent but the compose window was locked at sending and the connection

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 18 Aug 2014 09:20:17 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 17 August 2014 23:09:24 Alan McKinnon wrote: Take kparts and kioslaves. KDE treats as much as possible as some sort of plugin that all KDE apps can share.

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread wraeth
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 20:17 +1000, wraeth wrote: meant either a (non-free though nicely functional) plugin for Thunderbird ([0] for those interested) I also just realized I failed to include the link I mentioned... tonight is not my night... [0] https://exquilla.zendesk.com/home -- wraeth

Re: [gentoo-user] bash script question

2014-08-18 Thread Stroller
On Mon, 18 August 2014, at 10:42 am, wraeth wra...@wraeth.id.au wrote: On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 18:54 +1000, Adam Carter wrote: But this matches if grep fails both times as well as when it matches both time. Any ideas? If you don't mind using a quick loop, you could use something like: n=0

Re: [gentoo-user] bash script question

2014-08-18 Thread wraeth
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 12:29 +0100, Stroller wrote: On Mon, 18 August 2014, at 10:42 am, wraeth wra...@wraeth.id.au wrote: I propose addressing this with an array of the filenames. Thus additional files can be added for testing, without manual adjustment of the expected total. +1 I

Re: [gentoo-user] bash script question

2014-08-18 Thread Kerin Millar
On 18/08/2014 12:29, Stroller wrote: On Mon, 18 August 2014, at 10:42 am, wraeth wra...@wraeth.id.au wrote: On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 18:54 +1000, Adam Carter wrote: But this matches if grep fails both times as well as when it matches both time. Any ideas? If you don't mind using a quick loop,

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Mick
On Monday 18 Aug 2014 11:38:58 Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: A few months ago Google were using DAV for this purpose, but they decided to change their API. As a result older = 4.4.11.1-r2 KDEPIM versions broke and one had to

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I understand that Google offers two factor authentication (https://www.google.com/landing/2step/#tab=how-it-works) for its services, but if you have not signed up for it you only need a single google account passwd to

Re: [gentoo-user] bash script question

2014-08-18 Thread Stroller
On Mon, 18 August 2014, at 12:58 pm, wraeth wra...@wraeth.id.au wrote: ... I've never been overly familiar with bash arrays (I tend towards python or perl if I need anything even starting to get complex); Indeed, I had to look up the syntax from my own snippets folder, myself. I need to

Re: [gentoo-user] bash script question

2014-08-18 Thread Stroller
On Mon, 18 August 2014, at 1:16 pm, Kerin Millar kerfra...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: ... (( count += matches )) done (grep -hcm1 -F $string ${files[*]}) Oh, this is lovely. I've learned some things today. if (( count == ${#files[@]} )); then May I ask why you prefer these

Re: [gentoo-user] bash script question

2014-08-18 Thread Kerin Millar
On 18/08/2014 15:02, Stroller wrote: On Mon, 18 August 2014, at 1:16 pm, Kerin Millar kerfra...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: ... (( count += matches )) done (grep -hcm1 -F $string ${files[*]}) Oh, this is lovely. I've learned some things today. if (( count == ${#files[@]} ));

Re: [gentoo-user] bash script question

2014-08-18 Thread Kerin Millar
On 18/08/2014 15:18, Kerin Millar wrote: On 18/08/2014 15:02, Stroller wrote: On Mon, 18 August 2014, at 1:16 pm, Kerin Millar kerfra...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: ... (( count += matches )) done (grep -hcm1 -F $string ${files[*]}) Oh, this is lovely. I've learned some things

Re: [gentoo-user] Clusters on Gentoo ?

2014-08-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, August 17, 2014 08:46:58 PM thegeezer wrote: there are many way to do clustering and one thing that i would consider a holy grail would be something like pvm [1] because nothing else seems to have similar horizontal scaling of cpu at the kernel level PVM, from the webpage, looks

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 18 August 2014 11:04:03 Mick wrote: A user asked for their Google Calendar to be synchronised with Korganizer/Kontact and ISTR I enabled USE=google in kde-base/kdepim-runtime, which I think pulled in kde-misc/akonadi-google. Ah, so the Google resources mentioned are just calendar

Re: [gentoo-user] Clusters on Gentoo ?

2014-08-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:31 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: I wouldn't use Hadoop for storage of files. It's only useful if you have a lot (and I do mean a LOT) of data where a query only returns a very small amount. Not to mention a lot of data in a small number of files. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Clusters on Gentoo ?

2014-08-18 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Mon 18 Aug 2014 10:50:23 AM EDT, Rich Freeman wrote: Hadoop is a very specialized tool. It does what it does very well, but if you want to use it for something other than map/reduce then consider carefully whether it is the right tool for the job. Agreed; unless you have decent hardware

[gentoo-user] Re: why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-08-16, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: So can you please tell me why you have chosen a specific DE and not the other options ? I've been running XFCE for a long time. Before that, I didn't have a Desktop Environment at all, just the fvwm window manager which I started

[gentoo-user] Re: why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-08-17, Henrique Lengler henriquel...@openmailbox.org wrote: Whats the problem to use things that already exists? Why don't include software that is famous and liked by people insted of insist in their Kthings? NIH syndrome? -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 18.08.2014 um 17:50 schrieb Grant Edwards: On 2014-08-17, Henrique Lengler henriquel...@openmailbox.org wrote: Whats the problem to use things that already exists? Why don't include software that is famous and liked by people insted of insist in their Kthings? NIH syndrome? that almost

[gentoo-user] Changing glibc

2014-08-18 Thread Timur Aydin
Hi, I am using a closed source software package on my 64 bit gentoo linux system. The software package is beyond compare by scooter soft. Because of the way this package is built, it needs a specially patched version of glibc. I have patched my existing glibc version (2.18) and have been

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing glibc

2014-08-18 Thread Manuel McLure
One option is to copy the glibc version you want to some other directory and set LD_LIBRARY_PATH before starting the executable. Running ldd on all the executables/shared libraries in question should give you a list of all the shared libraries you might need to copy to a safe place. On Mon, Aug

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing glibc

2014-08-18 Thread Kerin Millar
On 18/08/2014 19:06, Timur Aydin wrote: Hi, I am using a closed source software package on my 64 bit gentoo linux system. The software package is beyond compare by scooter soft. Because of the way this package is built, it needs a specially patched version of glibc. I have patched my existing

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing glibc

2014-08-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 18 August 2014 20:06:51 CEST, Timur Aydin t...@taydin.org wrote: Hi, I am using a closed source software package on my 64 bit gentoo linux system. The software package is beyond compare by scooter soft. Because of the way this package is built, it needs a specially patched version of glibc.

Re: [gentoo-user] Advantages in privoxy instead of mannualy edit /etc/hosts

2014-08-18 Thread Henrique Lengler
Hi, I pretend to full adblock. So it should have a lot of entries On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 06:18:49AM +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: How many entries do you want to put in your /etc/hosts file? -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Henrique

Re: [gentoo-user] Clusters on Gentoo ?

2014-08-18 Thread thegeezer
On 18/08/14 15:31, J. Roeleveld wrote: snip valid points, and interesting to see the corrections of my understanding, always welcome :) Looks nice, but is not going to help with performance if the application is not designed for distributed processing. -- Joost this is the key point i

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing glibc

2014-08-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: In cases like that I would do either of the following: 1) Run it inside a VM 2) run it inside a chroot That way you can easily keep everything updated except for that application. Or better still run it inside a

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing glibc

2014-08-18 Thread Timur Aydin
Thanks a lot guys for the helpful responses. I will definitely try all of them, just for the learning experience, even if one does take care of the problem. Cheers! -- Timur

[gentoo-user] Re: Changing glibc

2014-08-18 Thread James
Timur Aydin ta at taydin.org writes: I am using a closed source software package on my 64 bit gentoo linux system. The software package is beyond compare by scooter soft. Because of the way this package is built, it needs a specially patched version of glibc. I have patched my existing

[gentoo-user] Help to set up privoxy

2014-08-18 Thread Henrique Lengler
Hi, I'm trying to setup privoxy on my gentoo. All I did is: $ sudo emerge privoxy $ /etc/init.d/privoxy start * Starting privoxy ... $ vimprobable2 http_proxy=”http://127.0.0.1:8118″ And anything is working. I opened the privoxy config page and it says to me that privoxy is not running and as i

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing glibc

2014-08-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, August 18, 2014 03:12:15 PM Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: In cases like that I would do either of the following: 1) Run it inside a VM 2) run it inside a chroot That way you can easily keep everything updated

[gentoo-user] Re: Changing glibc

2014-08-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-08-18, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: In cases like that I would do either of the following: 1) Run it inside a VM 2) run it inside a chroot That way you can easily keep everything updated except for that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Changing glibc

2014-08-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/08/2014 23:17, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-08-18, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: In cases like that I would do either of the following: 1) Run it inside a VM 2) run it inside a chroot That way you can

Re: [gentoo-user] Intermittent USB device failures

2014-08-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 17.08.2014 um 12:33 schrieb Mick: On Sunday 17 Aug 2014 02:56:58 Mike Edenfield wrote: When I `modprobe -r ochi_pci` while the system is operating normally, I see all four modules (ohci-pci, ohci-hcd, ehci-pci, and ehci-hcd) unloading properly: [25603.37] ohci-pci :00:0b.0:

Re: [gentoo-user] Help to set up privoxy

2014-08-18 Thread Henrique Lengler
I solved it setting a enviroment variable and compiling it with threads use flag. -- Henrique Lengler https://gitorious.org/~henriqueleng

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Changing glibc

2014-08-18 Thread Francisco Ares
2014-08-18 19:03 GMT-03:00 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: On 18/08/2014 23:17, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-08-18, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: In cases like that I would do either of the following:

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:47 PM, wraeth wra...@wraeth.id.au wrote: Also, I think your subject line, while a valiant effort, is the IT equivalent of don't eat the cookies while I'm gone :P Yea, I think there will no escape from that!