[gentoo-user] Confessional: how I generally use emerge.

2016-03-18 Thread Alan Grimes
I use two scripts for all emerge use, the goal is to run one command and then walk away: Standard general update script: ### tortoise ~ # cat sysupdate #they must have moved or removed the logs, might have to track them down again... #rm /var/log/emerge* # cache /usr/portage

Re: [gentoo-user] local shared directory

2016-03-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:19:21 +0100, hw wrote: > how can I make it so that multiple users on a system who create > files in a local, shared directory do have write access to files > created by other users within the shared directory? ACLs. -- Neil Bothwick And if you say "No", I shall be

Re: [gentoo-user] Giving Gentoo Another Go

2016-03-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 18 March 2016 12:03:46 Neil Bothwick wrote: > Top Oxymorons Number 33: American history Top Oxymorons Number 1a: atonal music. -- Rgds Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Confessional: how I generally use emerge.

2016-03-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:41:39 -0500, Dale wrote: > I have to add this. From what I understand about the scripts he is > using, he is blindly letting emerge do updates without checking to see > if the updates fall into line with what he *needs*. If I read it > correctly, any USE flag change will

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting a valid /etc/adjtime while using ntpd ?

2016-03-18 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
On 03/17/2016 02:03 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: On 17/03/16 20:26, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 17/03/2016 08:50, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: I have a server SUPPOSED to be running 24/7, but every once in a while during a prolonged absence the box will go down. The Real Time Clock will drift, and in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-18 Thread wabenbau
Dale wrote: > I still use Konqueror but I disabled some USE flags early on since I > didn't want some of the bloat. I think I had to enable some since > they were no longer a option but sort of forced. Anyway, this is the > USE flags for mine but since it is a short list,

Re: [gentoo-user] Giving Gentoo Another Go

2016-03-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 18 March 2016 09:08:53 Neil Bothwick wrote: > No one gets it right first time, there are many choices and many ways of > doing things. No book can tell you which way is right for you, only > experience can do that. Getting things like this wrong is a natural part > of the Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/03/2016 22:37, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Mick wrote: > >> On Friday 18 Mar 2016 19:29:29 waben...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> What I miss most of all is the fantastic konqueror. It was way >>> better than any other filemanager that I know. Of course I've >>> tested

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-18 Thread Philip Webb
160318 waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Do you have installed the complete KDE4? If not, what packages > do you have installed to configure the look and feel of your KDE apps ? None that I know of. >> I use Krusader & recommend it very highly for heavy file-lifting : >> have you tried it ? -- if not,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Confessional: how I generally use emerge.

2016-03-18 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 01:43:53PM -0500, »Q« wrote: > On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:37:04 -0400 > Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > > > > emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y system --keep-going > > > > Add "--oneshot", same reasoning as above. > > When the target is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting a valid /etc/adjtime while using ntpd ?

2016-03-18 Thread Mick
On Friday 18 Mar 2016 09:38:50 Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > On 03/17/2016 11:31 PM, Mick wrote: > > On Friday 18 Mar 2016 06:01:17 Bill Kenworthy wrote: > >> On 18/03/16 05:59, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > >>> On 18/03/16 05:14, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 17/03/2016 22:02, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-18 Thread wabenbau
Philip Webb wrote: > 160318 waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > Do you have installed the complete KDE4? If not, what packages > > do you have installed to configure the look and feel of your KDE > > apps ? > > None that I know of. > > >> I use Krusader & recommend it very

[gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-18 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 17/03/16 18:00, Philip Webb wrote: I tried to fix it by setting wayland, gles2 and egl to default because they were breaking other packages. Why are you using Wayland ? -- it's still largely experimental, isn't it ? Some packages force the wayland USE flag on. Emerge that breaks if you

Re: [gentoo-user] local shared directory

2016-03-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > umask is just not viable either, as a) it's global and affects all files > a user creates and b) by definition umask is modifiable by the user > (it's a feature to help users out so they don't need to chmod every

Re: [gentoo-user] Confessional: how I generally use emerge.

2016-03-18 Thread Alan Grimes
The dependency graph that seems to be murdering me right now seems to be: kde -> wayland -> gles2 -> egl -> # .. [ebuild N ] kde-plasma/plasma-meta-5.5.5:5::gentoo USE="display-manager gtk pam pulseaudio sddm sdk wallpapers -bluetooth

Re: [gentoo-user] Giving Gentoo Another Go

2016-03-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/03/2016 17:29, Stroller wrote: > >> On Fri, 18 March 2016, at 6:07 am, Alan McKinnon >> wrote: >> >> … >> USE flags enable and disable features of software at compile-time. Take >> for example a music player. Maybe it can store the metadata about your >> music in

Re: [gentoo-user] The war continues.

2016-03-18 Thread Fast Turtle
Before using revdep-rebuild, you need to do a -pW --clean to see what's old/obsolete on the system. It can clear lots of cruft after just six months of updates. Once you see what needs to be cleared, you can do an -a (ask) before remove. Saves you from the sytem pulling python and fragging

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-18 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:49:44 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> [ebuild R] kde-apps/konqueror-15.08.3:4/15.08::gentoo >> USE="bookmarks handbook svg (-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB >> >> The hard part, getting it to run as root. KDE doesn't like things >> running as root so it took a

[gentoo-user] How to find which version of $package supports $USE ?

2016-03-18 Thread Stroller
Hello, I noticed today that openssh has a USE flag that I was unaware of: $ emerge -UDp world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] sys-boot/grub-2.02_beta2-r9 [2.02_beta2-r3] USE="fonts%* themes%*"

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-18 Thread wabenbau
Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Maybe I will try it again with KDE5. But this also depends on the > > dependencies. :-) I'm not sure if I'm willing to install the > > complete KDE environment for this test. > > KDE 5 is absolutely nothing like KDE3. So by all means try it,