Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Mystery network traffic

[J. Roeleveld]

On September 29, 2016 9:47:27 PM GMT+02:00, Grant  wrote:
>I was watching cbm on one of my machines and it showed a lot more
>traffic going in and out over lo than over both of the two real
>interfaces.  Is that normal?  One of those two real interfaces is
>completely unused and shows zeros in cbm all the time.
>
>- Grant

Yes, I would consider this normal.

What is running on that machine?

'lo' is used for all traffic between localhost and localhost.

IOW, all internal communications, like apache talking to the database if both 
running on the same host.
Or postfix to amavis to postfix before mail gets delivered.

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[gentoo-user] trouble starting gnome-terminal

[allan gottlieb]

I run systemd if that is relevant.  All commands below were run
as ordinary user "gottlieb" (I know the sudo runs the stated command as
root)

On one machine (named E6430) running gnome-terminal is problematic.

If I log via the gnome graphical login screen I cannot start a gnome
terminal either by
   Selecting it from the favorites menu
   Using my own keyboard shortcut (which has worked for years)
   Invoking M-x shell in emacs and typing gnome-terminal

The first two produce nothing on the screen, third produces
Error constructing proxy for org.gnome.Terminal:/org/gnome/Terminal/Factory0: 
Error calling StartServiceByName for org.gnome.Terminal: 
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process 
org.gnome.Terminal exited with status 9

However the following both work
   1. in the same emacs shell as above typing sudo gnome-terminal
   2. from another machine where gnome-terminal works as normal
 ssh -Y e6430
 gnome-terminal

Any suggestions would be appreciated

thanks,
allan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommend a good replacement for XFCE?

[Andy Mender]

Dear Grant,

I would sincerely second Openbox + tint2.
That's my all times favourite. Bear in mind that the stable
tint2wizard/conf doesn't handle the Launcher properly.
For that you need to emerge tint2 with the testing "~amd64" flag :).
There are some additional goodies in the more modern tint2 panel, too.

Best regards,
Andy

On 29 September 2016 at 21:52, Grant Edwards 
wrote:

> On 2016-09-25, Grant Edwards  wrote:
>
> >> I liked openbox though, so if LXDE refuses to handle multiple
> >> screens I may stick with openbox and try to find some other panel
> >> program that does work with multiple screens.
>
> I gave up on LXDE.  I messed around with it a bit more and it seems to
> have a hard-wired assumption that computers are single-user and
> single-screen.  Besides that, the LXDE community also seems to be
> rather small/inactive. I posted questions about multi-screen use to
> the LXDE forum, but the user forum only has a couple of posts per
> month, and few of them ever get any responses.
>
> > Openbox+tint2 looks promising.
>
> That's what I've settled on.  It took a couple hours of fiddling to
> setup a startup script, configure the panels, the window manager
> itself, and build a root window menu that's close enough to my old one
> that I don't flail about like Donald Trump making fun of the
> handicapped.
>
> For generating an openbox root menu, I recommend obmenu-generator.
>
> > I still have to figure out one last tweak to openbox's behavior.  When
> > you do ctrl-alt-right/left it switches virtual desktops on the screen
> > that has input focus, and I want it to switch on the screen where the
> > mouse pointer is.  I know it's trivial, and all you have to do is
> > click before hitting ctrl-alt-right/left.
>
> I haven't figured that out yet, so I'll have to adapt. :)
>
> --
> Grant Edwards   grant.b.edwardsYow! Does someone from
>   at   PEORIA have a SHORTER
>   gmail.comATTENTION span than me?
>
>
>

[gentoo-user] Re: Recommend a good replacement for XFCE?

[Grant Edwards]

On 2016-09-25, Grant Edwards  wrote:

>> I liked openbox though, so if LXDE refuses to handle multiple
>> screens I may stick with openbox and try to find some other panel
>> program that does work with multiple screens.

I gave up on LXDE.  I messed around with it a bit more and it seems to
have a hard-wired assumption that computers are single-user and
single-screen.  Besides that, the LXDE community also seems to be
rather small/inactive. I posted questions about multi-screen use to
the LXDE forum, but the user forum only has a couple of posts per
month, and few of them ever get any responses.

> Openbox+tint2 looks promising.

That's what I've settled on.  It took a couple hours of fiddling to
setup a startup script, configure the panels, the window manager
itself, and build a root window menu that's close enough to my old one
that I don't flail about like Donald Trump making fun of the
handicapped.

For generating an openbox root menu, I recommend obmenu-generator.

> I still have to figure out one last tweak to openbox's behavior.  When
> you do ctrl-alt-right/left it switches virtual desktops on the screen
> that has input focus, and I want it to switch on the screen where the
> mouse pointer is.  I know it's trivial, and all you have to do is
> click before hitting ctrl-alt-right/left. 

I haven't figured that out yet, so I'll have to adapt. :)

-- 
Grant Edwards   grant.b.edwardsYow! Does someone from
  at   PEORIA have a SHORTER
  gmail.comATTENTION span than me?

[gentoo-user] {OT} Mystery network traffic

[Grant]

I was watching cbm on one of my machines and it showed a lot more
traffic going in and out over lo than over both of the two real
interfaces.  Is that normal?  One of those two real interfaces is
completely unused and shows zeros in cbm all the time.

- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Mentors project?

[Raymond Jennings]

My first suggestion is to create a project of Mentors, as a subproject of
ComRes and coprojects with Recruiters and Comrel.
Then it could assume a place on irc using #gentoo-mentors.  And possibly a
grouping created for them on the forums?

Mentor wannabes who wanna help out would join the project as members and
thus advertise their availability for wannabe devs in search of mentors.

Right now, the biggest weakness I see is a lack of organized visibility.
Having it as an official project, with a member list, would make potential
mentors much easier to find.

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 9:27 PM, Andy Mender 
wrote:

> I have also heard of the concept of Gentoo mentors in the past, though it
> didn't seem like anyone is specifically involved. I think it would be a
> nice initiative, but of course specifics then need to be drafted. For
> instance, should it be irc based, forum based or both? What would be the
> incentive for mentor-wannabes? Etc.
>
> Best regards,
> Andy Mender
>
> On 27 Sep 2016 17:22, "Raymond Jennings"  wrote:
>
>> I'm just wondering, is there a project meant to act as a team of mentors,
>> ready to take on new recruits?
>>
>> Points:
>>
>> * I haven't noticed an official grouping of any sort that organizes
>> potential mentors into a cohesive group
>>
>> * I noticed the #gentoo-mentors channel.  It appears to be registered,
>> and is occupied by ChanServ, but nobody (op or otherwise) is in it.
>>
>> I've also had some trouble in the past during my devhood journey.  A lot
>> of it is my fault for being waylaid by RL drama, but my two previous
>> mentors had to resign due to their own RL takedowns, and it "sure would be
>> nice" if there were a labelled team I could approach.
>>
>> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Recruiters/Mentoring has
>> instructions for mentors, but I don't see any project/subproject on Google
>> specifically meant to organize.
>>
>> Would it benefit gentoo to have "mentors" as an official project,
>> possibly as a comres subproject?
>>
>>