[gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

On 2017-12-04 18:13, Daniel Frey wrote: > I guess I'll have to remember to use 500M+ /boot partitions now. Sigh. I don't get it. matica!7 rc$ du /boot/grub 2022/boot/grub/i386-pc 1340/boot/grub/fonts 2785/boot/grub/themes/starfield 2786/boot/grub/themes 3163

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:11 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On my 16 core opteron I have to do -j32 or sometimes -j64 to be using > everything all the time, is this normal? If I don't do this it won't be > pegged at 100% all the time. > I use a ramdisk and anything over -j${NCPU}

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

On my 16 core opteron I have to do -j32 or sometimes -j64 to be using everything all the time, is this normal? If I don't do this it won't be pegged at 100% all the time. I assume using a ramdisk would help with this? I wouldn't want to do a SSD as I assume it would excessively wear by doing

Re: [gentoo-user] grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

On 12/04/17 18:15, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 12/04/2017 09:13 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: Well, it copies from /usr/share/grub and /lib/grub to /boot/grub, and the sum of those directories are 270M without any kernels, etc installed. I guess I'm going to have to tarball everything up, repartition,

Re: [gentoo-user] Profile 17 and -fPIC

On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 11:52:24AM +1100, Adam Carter wrote > > Is there a downside to adding -fPIC to CFLAGs? It seems to allow > everything to build and the system is working. It'll slow down some programs/libraries. I wonder if you also need to enable "USE="pic"... [d531][waltdnes][~]

Re: [gentoo-user] grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

Daniel Frey wrote: > On 12/03/17 07:12, Mick wrote: > > On 03-12-2017 ,10:57:33, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> On Saturday, 2 December 2017 12:30:57 GMT Mick wrote: > >>> I'm getting this error after I changed my profile as per > >>> '2017-11-30-new-17- > >>> profiles' news

Re: [gentoo-user] grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

On 12/04/2017 09:13 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > > Well, it copies from /usr/share/grub and /lib/grub to /boot/grub, and > the sum of those directories are 270M without any kernels, etc > installed. I guess I'm going to have to tarball everything up, > repartition, and untar it. > > I guess I'll

Re: [gentoo-user] grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

On 12/04/17 17:54, Daniel Frey wrote: On 12/03/17 07:12, Mick wrote: On 03-12-2017 ,10:57:33, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday, 2 December 2017 12:30:57 GMT Mick wrote: I'm getting this error after I changed my profile as per '2017-11-30-new-17- profiles' news item: Compiling source in

Re: [gentoo-user] grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

On 12/03/17 07:12, Mick wrote: On 03-12-2017 ,10:57:33, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday, 2 December 2017 12:30:57 GMT Mick wrote: I'm getting this error after I changed my profile as per '2017-11-30-new-17- profiles' news item: Compiling source in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Will profile 17.0 break 3rd party binaries?

> > Good question. I've been using a pie-enabled gcc 7.2 for months before > > the 17.0 profile switch and both acroread and skype (the new one) > > still work, so chances are your stuff will too. > > Years ago when I used acroread I found it quite irritating that it came > with its own bundled

[gentoo-user] Re: Will profile 17.0 break 3rd party binaries?

On 2017-12-05 00:05, Holger Hoffstätte wrote: > > There are a number of third-party binary executables that I use > > regularly on my Gentoo systems. These are dynamically linked, > > x86-64, programs that typically depend on various X11 and Qt/Gtk > > libraries. They were either extracted from

[gentoo-user] Profile 17 and -fPIC

Possibly due to messing around with hardened in the past, i'm finding that many packages are reporting that they need -fPIC now that i'm on 17.0 (and gcc 7.2 FWIW). I've added it to CFLAGs, as manually adding to each failed package via package.env was getting non-trivial. >From the GCC man page

[gentoo-user] Re: Will profile 17.0 break 3rd party binaries?

On 2017-12-05, Holger Hoffstätte wrote: > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 22:42:45 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> There are a number of third-party binary executables that I use >> regularly on my Gentoo systems. [...] >> >> Is switching to the new 17.0 profile likely to

[gentoo-user] emerge -e @world failed

HHi, I did it, I started emerge -e @world --keep-going. And it failed while installing linux-gazette: >>> Emerging (370 of 2114) app-doc/linux-gazette-117::gentoo >>> Installing (360 of 2114) app-doc/linux-gazette-31::gentoo >>> Emerging (371 of 2114) app-doc/linux-gazette-69::gentoo >>>

[gentoo-user] Re: Will profile 17.0 break 3rd party binaries?

On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 22:42:45 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > There are a number of third-party binary executables that I use > regularly on my Gentoo systems. These are dynamically linked, x86-64, > programs that typically depend on various X11 and Qt/Gtk libraries. > They were either extracted

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017, 03:58:40 CET schrieb tu...@posteo.de: > Hi, > > what could fail, when doing the change to PIE-enabled applications > on base of the regular updates? > Compilation may fail, if libs are included and not flagged as to be > recompiled, which are of the "old standard"...

[gentoo-user] Will profile 17.0 break 3rd party binaries?

There are a number of third-party binary executables that I use regularly on my Gentoo systems. These are dynamically linked, x86-64, programs that typically depend on various X11 and Qt/Gtk libraries. They were either extracted from .rpm/.deb files or distributed as shell-archive self-installers

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

On Mon, Dec 04 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 04/12/2017 17:35, allan gottlieb wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 04 2017, Bill Kenworthy wrote: >> >>> On 04/12/17 17:49, John Covici wrote: On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > [1 ] >>> >>> Your system is somewhat

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 10:35:27 -0500, allan gottlieb wrote: > This sounds like good advice but I have a question concerning > --depclean. I would have thought that > > Any package --depclean would remove is not required by anything > in @world so would not be merged by emerge -e @world

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On 12/04/2017 12:48 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > On 12/03/2017 03:30 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > >> However, you can delay switching to the new profile for a while. > > For how long? > > eselect news item tells me: > > "Please migrate away from the 13.0 profiles within the six weeks

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 02:19:33PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote > On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 10:34:48AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote > > > It doesn't build here; I get a few errors, thus: > > > > 9:41.58 ../../build/unix/gold/ld: error: /var/tmp/portage/www-client/ > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 10:34:48AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote > It doesn't build here; I get a few errors, thus: > > 9:41.58 ../../build/unix/gold/ld: error: /var/tmp/portage/www-client/ > palemoon-27.6.2/work/palemoon-27.6.2/o/toolkit/library/../../media/ >

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On 12/03/2017 03:30 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > However, you can delay switching to the new profile for a while. For how long? eselect news item tells me: "Please migrate away from the 13.0 profiles within the six weeks after GCC 6.4.0 has been stabilized on your architecture. The 13.0

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

On 04/12/2017 17:35, allan gottlieb wrote: > On Mon, Dec 04 2017, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > >> On 04/12/17 17:49, John Covici wrote: >>> On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, >>> Neil Bothwick wrote: [1 ] >> >> Your system is somewhat broken I think. You need to look at each >> package

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

On Mon, Dec 04 2017, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On 04/12/17 17:49, John Covici wrote: >> On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> >>> [1 ] > > Your system is somewhat broken I think. You need to look at each > package and resolve the problem - possibly stray entries in one

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I in trouble now?

Hello, On Mon, 04 Dec 2017, Marc Joliet wrote: >Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017, 21:22:23 CET schrieb Marc Joliet: >> Of course, that doesn't mean that things are correct on your end, though. >> On one of my computers, checksec does say "PIE enabled". Maybe you should >> try compiling something

Re: [gentoo-user] How to check for PIE-code ?

Hello, On Sun, 03 Dec 2017, ckard wrote: >On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 8:06 PM, wrote: >> is there any way to check, whether a compilated binary is using >> the position-independant-code feature or is still build according >> to old standards? > >You can use app-admin/checksec to see

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

Attempting to address the other ebuilds in your list: Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017, 10:49:02 CET schrieb John Covici: > !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "app-misc/tmux" have been masked. > !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your > !!! request: > -

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 08:15:48 -0500, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > [1 ] > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 08:11:42 -0500, John Covici wrote: > > > > > > hmmm, I do updates on a monthly or more often basis, at the end of > > > > > each I get the message no outdated packages found on your > > > > > system. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 08:11:42 -0500, John Covici wrote: > > > > hmmm, I do updates on a monthly or more often basis, at the end of > > > > each I get the message no outdated packages found on your > > > > system. I don't think I should be getting these messages for > > > > things like tmux, which

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 08:00:45 -0500, John Covici wrote: > > Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 07:25:28 -0500, > Marc Joliet wrote: > > > > [1 ] > > Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017, 13:14:23 CET schrieb John Covici: > > > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 06:53:46 -0500, > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 07:25:28 -0500, Marc Joliet wrote: > > [1 ] > Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017, 13:14:23 CET schrieb John Covici: > > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 06:53:46 -0500, > > > > Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > > On 04/12/17 17:49, John Covici wrote: > > > > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017, 13:14:23 CET schrieb John Covici: > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 06:53:46 -0500, > > Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > On 04/12/17 17:49, John Covici wrote: > > > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, > > > > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > >> [1 ] > > > > Your system is somewhat broken

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 06:53:46 -0500, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > On 04/12/17 17:49, John Covici wrote: > > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> > >> [1 ] > > Your system is somewhat broken I think. You need to look at each > package and resolve the problem - possibly

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I in trouble now?

Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017, 21:22:23 CET schrieb Marc Joliet: > Of course, that doesn't mean that things are correct on your end, though. > On one of my computers, checksec does say "PIE enabled". Maybe you should > try compiling something else and verifying it. After all, there's probably >

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

On 04/12/17 17:49, John Covici wrote: > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> [1 ] Your system is somewhat broken I think. You need to look at each package and resolve the problem - possibly stray entries in one of the package files or world. Have you done a depclean

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

On Sunday, 3 December 2017 17:58:53 GMT Simon Thelen wrote: > On 17-12-03 at 09:52, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > On 2017-12-03 06:46, Heiko Baums wrote: > > > 1. It can't find >=sys-devel/gcc-6.4.0 but only older gcc versions. > > > > > > 2. You have installed a package that depend on

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > [1 ] > On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:20:17 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > > do an emerge -ep world > a > > edit a to something like below then "bash a" to run it: > > emerge -v =kde-frameworks/kdelibs4support-5.37.0 && \ > > emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:20:17 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > do an emerge -ep world > a > edit a to something like below then "bash a" to run it: > emerge -v =kde-frameworks/kdelibs4support-5.37.0 && \ > emerge -v =kde-apps/kio-extras-17.08.3 && \ > emerge -v

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

I think you are looking for problems that are not there. Almost finished recompiling the surface4 pro and have one compile failure I have not looked at - the original palemoon is still working. The hibernate to disk just failed so it rebooted from scratch and I could continue working on it while

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 03:58:40 +0100, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > what could fail, when doing the change to PIE-enabled applications > on base of the regular updates? > Compilation may fail, if libs are included and not flagged as to be > recompiled, which are of the "old standard"... > What else can