Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-03-01 Thread zlg
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 01:22:57PM -0600, Dale wrote: > Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > On 2018-02-27 11:02, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > >> A combination of --changed-deps, --with-bdeps=y and --deep is bound to > >> result in plenty of unnecessary re-emerging. > > So, what _is_ the recommended set of

[gentoo-user] mono broken?

2018-03-01 Thread Alan Grimes
Hey, what should I do next to try to resolve this, I am pretty sure it's an install issue on my mono, haven't really tried to use it like this in years... As below, the "test install" tool tells me it's broken but doesn't give me any clue as to the next step. =( atg@tortoise

Re: [gentoo-user] Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Dale
Floyd Anderson wrote: > On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 20:21:52 -0800 > Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> On 2018-03-01 18:12, Dale wrote: >> >>> Here is the list of the bounced messages: >>> - 182748 >>> - 182749 >>> - 182751 >> >> If you succeed in retrieving them, please let us know which

Re: [gentoo-user] Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Floyd Anderson
On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 20:21:52 -0800 Ian Zimmerman wrote: On 2018-03-01 18:12, Dale wrote: Here is the list of the bounced messages: - 182748 - 182749 - 182751 If you succeed in retrieving them, please let us know which ones they were, so we can guess as to the cause.

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-01 18:12, Dale wrote: > Here is the list of the bounced messages: > - 182748 > - 182749 > - 182751 If you succeed in retrieving them, please let us know which ones they were, so we can guess as to the cause. -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-01 18:12, Dale wrote: > If it helps, this is the complete message headers and all that I got > for one of them. Obviously, I'm editing out my email addy. I get > enough spam as it is. I'm replacing my email addy with ohnoyourenot > even if it is a partial. It seems to me that they are

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:48 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 12:58:44PM -0500, Tom H wrote >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: >> > >> > Is there something besides iptables? It seems to be like >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 23:48:27 +0100, Branko Grubic wrote: > >>> I have got a couple recently as well.  I wonder, can this be used to >>> retrieve those messages somehow?? > Yes, send a help message to the list admin address, the details are on > the mailing list page at

[gentoo-user] [OT] Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-01 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 12:58:44PM -0500, Tom H wrote > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > Is there something besides iptables? It seems to be like > > systemd/perl/python, continuously expanding its scope. And no, I'm not > > looking for an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer

2018-03-01 Thread Adam Carter
Happy with my OfficeJet Pro 8620.

Re: [gentoo-user] Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 23:48:27 +0100, Branko Grubic wrote: > > I have got a couple recently as well.  I wonder, can this be used to > > retrieve those messages somehow?? Yes, send a help message to the list admin address, the details are on the mailing list page at gentoo.org. You'll get back a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Dale
Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-03-01 23:48, Branko Grubic wrote: > >>> I keep my messages locally so when I miss messages, it can throw a >>> thread into some random weirdness. If one uses the web interface to >>> read/reply etc then it wouldn't matter but for those who use email >>> software, it

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-01 23:48, Branko Grubic wrote: > > I keep my messages locally so when I miss messages, it can throw a > > thread into some random weirdness. If one uses the web interface to > > read/reply etc then it wouldn't matter but for those who use email > > software, it seems we are missing

Re: [gentoo-user] Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Branko Grubic
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 16:38:42 -0600 Dale wrote: > Branko Grubic wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 14:42:35 -0600 > > R0b0t1 wrote: > > ... > > > I have got a couple recently as well.  I wonder, can this be used to > retrieve those messages somehow?? > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Dale
Branko Grubic wrote: > On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 14:42:35 -0600 > R0b0t1 wrote: > >> I keep getting emails from the mailer daemon about bouncing messages. >> I am worried. Am I missing messages from my internet friends? Please >> send help. >> >> With much concern, >> R0b0t1 >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer

2018-03-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 17:56:15 +, Wols Lists wrote: > > If I cared about scanning, I'd be very tempted to spend enough money > > to get a network-connected printer that just e-mails me a PDF document > > or writes it to a network file server. > > Make sure you check the specs. Either it'll be

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-01 14:42, R0b0t1 wrote: > I keep getting emails from the mailer daemon about bouncing messages. > I am worried. Am I missing messages from my internet friends? Please > send help. Do you mean the crud from outlook/365? I get that too; it's probably because my list mail lacks DKIM

Re: [gentoo-user] Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Branko Grubic
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 14:42:35 -0600 R0b0t1 wrote: > I keep getting emails from the mailer daemon about bouncing messages. > I am worried. Am I missing messages from my internet friends? Please > send help. > > With much concern, > R0b0t1 > Hi, I was just thinking about

Re: [gentoo-user] Printer

2018-03-01 Thread R0b0t1
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:33 AM, Roger Cahn wrote: > Hi, > > For my birthday (!) my children want to offer me a multifunction > printer, copier. > > I ask you for an idea which one they could buy. > Hello, I strongly recommend a Brother laser/thermal printer. They can do

[gentoo-user] Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread R0b0t1
I keep getting emails from the mailer daemon about bouncing messages. I am worried. Am I missing messages from my internet friends? Please send help. With much concern, R0b0t1

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot Gentoo live iso from grub

2018-03-01 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 07:11:23PM -0600, R0b0t1 wrote: > >> Please be careful, sir! The SysRescCD releases are not signed. The > >> Russians might be able to get you! > > > > That's not really an issue as neither Peter nor I is able to vote in US > > elections ;-) > > > > Not to take the joke

Re: [gentoo-user] [okey..] [OT] Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-01 Thread Grant Taylor
On 03/01/2018 03:12 AM, Wols Lists wrote: I had great trouble with yahoo and a mailing list - it kept filing all the ham (from mailing lists) as spam, and left all the spam (mostly yahoo advertising crap in the inbox. Consider the source of your troubles. ;-) -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Re: Printer

2018-03-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-03-01, Wols Lists wrote: > On 01/03/18 15:43, Grant Edwards wrote: >> If I cared about scanning, I'd be very tempted to spend enough money >> to get a network-connected printer that just e-mails me a PDF document >> or writes it to a network file server. > > Make

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-01 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2018-02-28, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > >> Is there a windows style application layer firewall? > > Can you describe what that means? (For the benefit of those of us that > aren't familiar with

Re: [gentoo-user] [SUSPECTED SPAM] [OT] Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-01 Thread Mick
On Thursday, 1 March 2018 17:58:44 GMT Tom H wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Is there something besides iptables? It seems to be like > > systemd/perl/python, continuously expanding its scope. And no, I'm not > > looking for an "easy-peasy

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-01 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 6:22 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > Is there a windows style application layer firewall? I get that it doesn't > stop truly malicious programs but I am simply wanting to stop random > programs doing connections without my consent which due to the lennart >

Re: [gentoo-user] [SUSPECTED SPAM] [OT] Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-01 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Is there something besides iptables? It seems to be like > systemd/perl/python, continuously expanding its scope. And no, I'm not > looking for an "easy-peasy front-end gui" that'll probably pull in 90% > of QT as

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer

2018-03-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/03/18 15:43, Grant Edwards wrote: > If I cared about scanning, I'd be very tempted to spend enough money > to get a network-connected printer that just e-mails me a PDF document > or writes it to a network file server. Make sure you check the specs. Either it'll be expensive, or it probably

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer

2018-03-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/03/18 17:41, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday, 1 March 2018 15:29:39 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 15:10:58 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: For my birthday (!) my children want to offer me a multifunction printer, copier. I ask you for an idea which

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer

2018-03-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 1 March 2018 15:29:39 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 15:10:58 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > > For my birthday (!) my children want to offer me a multifunction > > > printer, copier. > > > > > > I ask you for an idea which one they could buy. > > > > I despise

[gentoo-user] Re: Printer

2018-03-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-03-01, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 15:10:58 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I despise all inkjets, but maybe that's just me. > > It's not. > >> I'd pick mono laser over any inkjet. > > That depends on your printing needs. I've now got an HP

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer

2018-03-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 15:10:58 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > For my birthday (!) my children want to offer me a multifunction > > printer, copier. > > > > I ask you for an idea which one they could buy. > > I despise all inkjets, but maybe that's just me. It's not. > I'd pick mono

[gentoo-user] Re: Printer

2018-03-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-03-01, Roger Cahn wrote: > Hi, > > For my birthday (!) my children want to offer me a multifunction > printer, copier. > > I ask you for an idea which one they could buy. I despise all inkjets, but maybe that's just me. I'd pick mono laser over any inkjet. Many

Re: [gentoo-user] Printer

2018-03-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/03/18 10:33, Roger Cahn wrote: > Hi, > > For my birthday (!) my children want to offer me a multifunction > printer, copier. > > I ask you for an idea which one they could buy. > > For example: Multifonction A3 HP Officejet Pro 7612 > > -gentoo amd64 compatible > > -inkjet color

Re: [gentoo-user] Printer

2018-03-01 Thread David Abbott
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 5:33 AM, Roger Cahn wrote: > Hi, > > For my birthday (!) my children want to offer me a multifunction > printer, copier. > > I ask you for an idea which one they could buy. > > For example: Multifonction A3 HP Officejet Pro 7612 > > -gentoo amd64

[gentoo-user] Printer

2018-03-01 Thread Roger Cahn
Hi, For my birthday (!) my children want to offer me a multifunction printer, copier. I ask you for an idea which one they could buy. For example:  Multifonction A3 HP Officejet Pro 7612 -gentoo amd64 compatible -inkjet color (4colors) -ethernet Thank you for your help Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] [okey..] [OT] Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/03/18 09:56, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:11:12 GMT Nils Freydank wrote: > >> PS: What about the "suspected spam" in your subject? Is that a bug in the >> ML software or does that one come from you? > > I don't see that. Are you sure it isn't you? :) > I see

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/03/18 00:26, Rich Freeman wrote: > Like everybody around here I prefer a FOSS implementation, > and would trust it more due to the "many eyes" philosophy, but I'd > stop short of saying that the Windows software firewall is > particularly insecure. Bear in mind that "many eyes" only works

Re: [gentoo-user] [okey..] [OT] Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 1 March 2018 03:01:46 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 12:11:12AM +0100, Nils Freydank wrote > > > PS: What about the "suspected spam" in your subject? Is that a bug > > in the ML software or does that one come from you? > > Probably my ISP, I'll have to ask on

Re: [gentoo-user] [okey..] [OT] Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:11:12 GMT Nils Freydank wrote: > PS: What about the "suspected spam" in your subject? Is that a bug in the > ML software or does that one come from you? I don't see that. Are you sure it isn't you? :) -- Regards, Peter.

[gentoo-user] Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [OT] Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-01 Thread Alberto Luaces
Heiko Baums writes: > Am Wed, 28 Feb 2018 16:15:59 -0500 > schrieb "Walter Dnes" : > >> Is there something besides iptables? It seems to be like >> systemd/perl/python, continuously expanding its scope. And no, I'm >> not looking for an "easy-peasy front-end gui"