Re: [gentoo-user] Emergian oracle spoke again...

2020-03-03 Thread Franz Fellner
Yes, confusing. portage bug IMO.
Filed one for you:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/711474

But still this should have been possible for you to figure out.
Confusing suggestion? Just have a look at the mentioned file.
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask
Search for tintwizard and find this block:
# Andreas Sturmlechner  (2020-02-26)
# Unmaintained revdeps on dev-python/pygtk blocking its removal, py2-only
# All masked for removal in 30 days.
# Last release in 2011, bug #708106
app-cdr/gtkcdlabel
# No plans upstream to port away from pygtk, suggested alternative dupeguru
# not packaged in Gentoo, bug #708112
app-misc/fslint
# Last release in 2012, bug #708124
app-text/keepnote
# Last release in 2012, bug #708142
x11-misc/revelation
# Last release in 2011, bug #708150
x11-misc/tintwizard
# Last activity in 2013, bug #710162
sci-misc/pythoncad
# Last release in 2013, bug #710164
sci-electronics/gresistor

Another hint are those linked bug numbers.
Just copy one, type "bugs.gentoo.org/" and paste the number.
e.g. "bugs.gentoo.org/708112" which is the bug mentioned in the "dupeguru"
line.
And you see this issue is about fslint. "scratch you head".

Am Mi., 4. März 2020 um 04:22 Uhr schrieb :

> Hi,
>
> I got this oupt while updateing:
>
> !!! The following installed packages are masked:
> - x11-misc/tintwizard-0.3.4-r3::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
> /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
> # Andreas Sturmlechner  (2020-02-26)
> # Unmaintained revdeps on dev-python/pygtk blocking its removal, py2-only
> # All masked for removal in 30 days.
> # Last release in 2011, bug #708106
> # No plans upstream to port away from pygtk, suggested alternative dupeguru
> # not packaged in Gentoo, bug #708112
> # Last release in 2012, bug #708124
> # Last release in 2012, bug #708142
> # Last release in 2011, bug #708150
>
> I interpret this as:
>
> tintwizard will be removed because of being Unmaintained and python-2
> base.
>
> As an alternative, "dupeguru" is suggestet.
>
> The description of tintwizard is:
> "GUI wizard which generates config files for tint2 panels"
>
> dupeguru isn't in the repository so I searched for it and found:
> "dupeGuru is a cross-platform (Linux, OS X, Windows) GUI tool to find
> duplicate files in a system."
>
> Both application seem to have silightly different use cases.
>
> Or what dupeguru is meant here?
>
> Cheers!
> mcc
>
>
>
>
>


[gentoo-user] Emergian oracle spoke again...

2020-03-03 Thread tuxic
Hi,

I got this oupt while updateing:

!!! The following installed packages are masked:
- x11-misc/tintwizard-0.3.4-r3::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Andreas Sturmlechner  (2020-02-26)
# Unmaintained revdeps on dev-python/pygtk blocking its removal, py2-only
# All masked for removal in 30 days.
# Last release in 2011, bug #708106
# No plans upstream to port away from pygtk, suggested alternative dupeguru
# not packaged in Gentoo, bug #708112
# Last release in 2012, bug #708124
# Last release in 2012, bug #708142
# Last release in 2011, bug #708150

I interpret this as:

tintwizard will be removed because of being Unmaintained and python-2
base.

As an alternative, "dupeguru" is suggestet.

The description of tintwizard is:
"GUI wizard which generates config files for tint2 panels"

dupeguru isn't in the repository so I searched for it and found:
"dupeGuru is a cross-platform (Linux, OS X, Windows) GUI tool to find
duplicate files in a system."

Both application seem to have silightly different use cases.

Or what dupeguru is meant here?

Cheers!
mcc






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem with Fetchmail

2020-03-03 Thread William Kenworthy


On 4/3/20 8:58 am, Jack wrote:
> On 2020.03.03 19:33, Philip Webb wrote:
>> 200303 Jack wrote:
>
> Can you try to run fetchmail manually, perhaps with increased
> verbosity or debug output?


Fetchmail itself is independent of cron - it doesn't use it for
scheduling (at least in the configurations I use (fcron).  You can cron
fetchmail, buts that's not normal.

cron programs by default have a very stripped down environment which is
the usual cause of cron errors - can be hard to identify whats missing.

If its something like emailing an error log or test commands: run the
commands from the error message manually, then via a test cron entry to
narrow it down.  Try grep'ing /etc to  find the actual commands. 


BillK







Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem with Fetchmail

2020-03-03 Thread Jack

On 2020.03.03 19:33, Philip Webb wrote:

200303 Jack wrote:
> On 2020.03.03 02:54, Philip Webb wrote:
>> However, my ISP is now sending me an e-mail every  5 min ,
>> after Fetchmail checks for mail :
>>
>>   From: "(Cron Daemon)" 
>>   To: purslow@***
>>   Subject: Cron  test -e /var/run/dhcpcd.pid &&
>> /usr/bin/fetchmail -s 2> /dev/null
>>   fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET)
> Are you sure the message is coming from your ISP
> and not locally generated, perhaps by cron ?

Thanks, you're correct.  'man fetchmail' under 'EXIT CODES' says

  2  An  error  was  encountered  when attempting to open a socket
 to retrieve mail.  If you don't know what a socket is,
 don't worry about it -- just treat this as an 'unrecoverable  
error'.

 This error can also be because a protocol fetchmail wants to use
 is not listed in /etc/services.

It looks like that latter, but 'services' has  > 1100 lines .
'.fetchmailrc' uses 'sslproto', but otherwise I don't know what it  
wants.


The simple solution is to have Procmail treat these msgs as spam,
but it wb nice to know just what service it's failing to find.

Any suggestions ?
I can't help you with the actual protocol/fetchmail error, but there is  
probably a cron configuration that might avoid sending such emails at  
all - I don't know if it can be controlled at the level of individual  
cron entries.


Can you try to run fetchmail manually, perhaps with increased verbosity  
or debug output?


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem with Fetchmail

2020-03-03 Thread Philip Webb
200303 Jack wrote:
> On 2020.03.03 02:54, Philip Webb wrote:
>> However, my ISP is now sending me an e-mail every  5 min ,
>> after Fetchmail checks for mail :
>> 
>>   From: "(Cron Daemon)" 
>>   To: purslow@***
>>   Subject: Cron  test -e /var/run/dhcpcd.pid &&  
>> /usr/bin/fetchmail -s 2> /dev/null
>>   fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET)
> Are you sure the message is coming from your ISP
> and not locally generated, perhaps by cron ?
 
Thanks, you're correct.  'man fetchmail' under 'EXIT CODES' says

  2  An  error  was  encountered  when attempting to open a socket
 to retrieve mail.  If you don't know what a socket is,
 don't worry about it -- just treat this as an 'unrecoverable error'.
 This error can also be because a protocol fetchmail wants to use
 is not listed in /etc/services.

It looks like that latter, but 'services' has  > 1100 lines .
'.fetchmailrc' uses 'sslproto', but otherwise I don't know what it wants.

The simple solution is to have Procmail treat these msgs as spam,
but it wb nice to know just what service it's failing to find.

Any suggestions ?

-- 
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SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca




Re: [gentoo-user] palemoon and pdfs

2020-03-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 11:16:21AM -0500, james wrote
> team-gentoo-user,
> 
> Palemoon, Installed versions:  28.8.4, is great!
> 
> But, no matter what I try, I cannot view 'pdf' files in
> palemoon. Is there a page that explains how to get pdf
> viewing working on ver 28.8.4?
> 
> 
> https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/moon-pdf-viewer/

  You're better off invoking an external app (long story).

> Or a workaround like popping up another app so I can read the pdf, which 
> are common, from whatever source?
> ANY hack would be OK

  Another Pale Moon user here.  I use app-text/mupdf which is a
minimalist viewer.  The controls are a bit wierd.  To copy text hold
down the {CTRL} key and simultaneously drag the *RIGHT* mouse key to
extend-select a rectangle.  "+" and "-" control the zoom and {SHIFT}{H}
expands/decreases to properly fit the window.  Searching is like "less".
"/" searches forward (not case-sensitive) and "n" finds next occurence.
See the man page for more goodies.

  In my case, it saves a copy of the pdf file in /tmp/mozilla_waltdnes0/
(*YES* with Pale Moon).

-- 
Walter Dnes 
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications



[gentoo-user] palemoon and pdfs

2020-03-03 Thread james

team-gentoo-user,

Palemoon, Installed versions:  28.8.4, is great!

But, no matter what I try, I cannot view 'pdf' files in
palemoon. Is there a page that explains how to get pdf
viewing working on ver 28.8.4?


https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/moon-pdf-viewer/


Or a workaround like popping up another app so I can read the pdf, which 
are common, from whatever source?

ANY hack would be OK


All comments and guidance is warmly received.

James



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem with Fetchmail

2020-03-03 Thread Jack

On 2020.03.03 02:54, Philip Webb wrote:

191211 Holger Hoffstätte wrote:
> On 12/10/19 11:03 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
>> A few days ago, I updated Fetchmail to the latest stable 6.4.1 .
>> Immediately, it stopped fetching mail from one of my mail  
forwarders ;

>> the other one still worked, as I found by test-mailing to myself.
>> When I reverted to 6.3.26-r4 , everything worked properly again.
> I had the same problem after updating to 6.4 and managed to fix it
> by adding the "sslproto ''" option to each poll section.
> This immediately made things work again,
> both when piping through POPFile and fetching from GMail.
> See the 6.4.x man page for changes regarding the --sslproto option.

Thanks again, if I didn't thank you before.
I simply reverted, left it that way & forgot all about it
till I noticed that Fetchmail needs Python-2 only when using 'tk'.
Wanting to eliminate Py-2 ASAP, I emerged Fetchmail 6.4.1
& ran into the same problem.  Eventually, I also noticed
that 'sslproto' needs an argument (red face) & added the  '' .
Now it's fetching mail again (big smile).

However, my ISP is now sending me an e-mail every  5 min ,
after Fetchmail checks for mail :

  From: "(Cron Daemon)" 
  To: purslow@***
  Subject: Cron  test -e /var/run/dhcpcd.pid &&  
/usr/bin/fetchmail -s 2> /dev/null

  fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET)

Can anyone tell me how to suppress these msgs ?


Are you sure the message is coming from your ISP, and not locally  
generated, perhaps by cron?


Jack


Re: [gentoo-user] firefox managed by my organization?

2020-03-03 Thread n952162

There's a  difference between "unpin" and "dismiss".  You can "pin" your
favorites to the screen, and apparently Amazon supports Mozilla, so its
icon is "pre-pinned".  And I *can* unpin it - it goes away for that
session.  But it's pinned on the next invocation.

But, as I say, I doubt this is a nefarious conspiracy between Mozilla
and Amazon (although I wouldn't put it past them), but rather something
wrong with my installation.

But it would be interesting if anybody piped up and said they were
experiencing the same thing ...


On 2020-03-03 11:36, Michael wrote:

On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 10:29:39 GMT n952162 wrote:

Well, I can change it.  It's just that the next time I start firefox, I
have the old values back (and Amazon is pinned, again).

Hmm ... interesting ... when I go to Top Sites on a new tab and click on the
top right of a site at the Open Menu roundel, I can select to "x Dissmiss" a
site stored there and it's gone, unless/until I revisit it a few times.

I am not sure how this works if a site is in your Bookmarks and you have not
cleared your History for a while.




Re: [gentoo-user] firefox managed by my organization?

2020-03-03 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 10:29:39 GMT n952162 wrote:
>
> Well, I can change it.  It's just that the next time I start firefox, I
> have the old values back (and Amazon is pinned, again).

Hmm ... interesting ... when I go to Top Sites on a new tab and click on the 
top right of a site at the Open Menu roundel, I can select to "x Dissmiss" a 
site stored there and it's gone, unless/until I revisit it a few times.

I am not sure how this works if a site is in your Bookmarks and you have not 
cleared your History for a while.

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox managed by my organization?

2020-03-03 Thread n952162

On 2020-03-03 11:26, Michael wrote:

On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 09:57:33 GMT n952162 wrote:

On 2020-03-03 10:27, Michael wrote:

On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 03:58:12 GMT Walter Dnes wrote:

On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 11:16:52PM +0100, n952162 wrote


I have a banner that says that "your browser is being managed by your
organization". Oh yeah? I guess that would be gentoo. How can I break
that relationship?


Do you have Avast and/or AVG anti-virus?  See

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1264369 (Firefox) and
https://www.howtogeek.com/410106/why-does-chrome-say-its-managed-by-your-> >> 
org anization/ (Chrome).  Some browsers have started to report when they
detect external control, whether by Windows policies, or Avast/AVG.
Firefox seems to be following the lead of Chrome here.

Are you sure this applies to Linux?

I had thought the warning shows up when some of the browser's default
settings have been changed, or additional TLS Certificates have been
loaded.  If you go to 'about:policies' you'll see anything changed there.
  In mine FF has DisableAppUpdate, because I manage this via portage and
don't need FF to notify me, or even worse try to update itself.

Yes, that's my situation.  You're right, if you click on the banner, it
takes you to about:policies and I'm happy with that policy.  When I
wrote the original post, it wasn't clear that that's all that's
affected, but I presume that's so.

The issue where it arose is that certain settings are not being recorded
for me - at least, I presume that the privacy warning tab isn't supposed
to appear on every start, and that I ought to be able to change my home
page.  As tempting as it is to see a conspiracy, once I realized that I
couldn't even unpin Amazon and have it stayed unpinned, I started
suspecting that something is wrong in my installation.

You *should* be able to change your homepage.  Go into Preferences/Home/New
Windows and Tabs.  Then set there what you prefer to see on the page when
Firefox launches or a new Tab is opened.



Well, I can change it.  It's just that the next time I start firefox, I
have the old values back (and Amazon is pinned, again).




Re: [gentoo-user] firefox managed by my organization?

2020-03-03 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 09:57:33 GMT n952162 wrote:
> On 2020-03-03 10:27, Michael wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 03:58:12 GMT Walter Dnes wrote:
> >> On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 11:16:52PM +0100, n952162 wrote
> >> 
> >>> I have a banner that says that "your browser is being managed by your
> >>> organization". Oh yeah? I guess that would be gentoo. How can I break
> >>> that relationship?
> >>> 
> >>Do you have Avast and/or AVG anti-virus?  See
> >> 
> >> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1264369 (Firefox) and
> >> https://www.howtogeek.com/410106/why-does-chrome-say-its-managed-by-your-> 
> >> >> org anization/ (Chrome).  Some browsers have started to report when they
> >> detect external control, whether by Windows policies, or Avast/AVG. 
> >> Firefox seems to be following the lead of Chrome here.
> > 
> > Are you sure this applies to Linux?
> > 
> > I had thought the warning shows up when some of the browser's default
> > settings have been changed, or additional TLS Certificates have been
> > loaded.  If you go to 'about:policies' you'll see anything changed there.
> >  In mine FF has DisableAppUpdate, because I manage this via portage and
> > don't need FF to notify me, or even worse try to update itself.
> 
> Yes, that's my situation.  You're right, if you click on the banner, it
> takes you to about:policies and I'm happy with that policy.  When I
> wrote the original post, it wasn't clear that that's all that's
> affected, but I presume that's so.
> 
> The issue where it arose is that certain settings are not being recorded
> for me - at least, I presume that the privacy warning tab isn't supposed
> to appear on every start, and that I ought to be able to change my home
> page.  As tempting as it is to see a conspiracy, once I realized that I
> couldn't even unpin Amazon and have it stayed unpinned, I started
> suspecting that something is wrong in my installation.

You *should* be able to change your homepage.  Go into Preferences/Home/New 
Windows and Tabs.  Then set there what you prefer to see on the page when 
Firefox launches or a new Tab is opened.



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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox managed by my organization?

2020-03-03 Thread n952162

On 2020-03-03 10:27, Michael wrote:

On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 03:58:12 GMT Walter Dnes wrote:

On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 11:16:52PM +0100, n952162 wrote


I have a banner that says that "your browser is being managed by your
organization". Oh yeah? I guess that would be gentoo. How can I break
that relationship?

   Do you have Avast and/or AVG anti-virus?  See
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1264369 (Firefox) and
https://www.howtogeek.com/410106/why-does-chrome-say-its-managed-by-your-org
anization/ (Chrome).  Some browsers have started to report when they detect
external control, whether by Windows policies, or Avast/AVG.  Firefox
seems to be following the lead of Chrome here.

Are you sure this applies to Linux?

I had thought the warning shows up when some of the browser's default settings
have been changed, or additional TLS Certificates have been loaded.  If you go
to 'about:policies' you'll see anything changed there.  In mine FF has
DisableAppUpdate, because I manage this via portage and don't need FF to
notify me, or even worse try to update itself.



Yes, that's my situation.  You're right, if you click on the banner, it
takes you to about:policies and I'm happy with that policy.  When I
wrote the original post, it wasn't clear that that's all that's
affected, but I presume that's so.

The issue where it arose is that certain settings are not being recorded
for me - at least, I presume that the privacy warning tab isn't supposed
to appear on every start, and that I ought to be able to change my home
page.  As tempting as it is to see a conspiracy, once I realized that I
couldn't even unpin Amazon and have it stayed unpinned, I started
suspecting that something is wrong in my installation.

Someday when I have a day or two to waste, I'll re-emerge it.





Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice and pasting HTML from web pages.

2020-03-03 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 08:17:27 GMT Dale wrote:
> madscientistatlarge wrote:
> > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
> > 
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > 
> > On Monday, March 2, 2020 5:35 PM, Dale  wrote:
> >> Michael wrote:
> >>> On Monday, 2 March 2020 23:07:03 GMT Dale wrote:
>  Howdy,
>  I don't use LOo a whole lot but several months ago, I noticed a
>  problem. Sometimes I go to a electronic type website that has info on
>  circuits and how something works. Those pages usually contain text,
>  pics and such. I highlight what contains the info I want, which may
>  include some things I don't, then copy it to my clipboard. I then go to
>  LOo and paste it as HTML since that's what it is. Once pasted, I remove
>  things I don't want, such as social media icons and other unwanted
>  things. I also make some images larger, make text larger and such as
>  well. When I get it right, I print it as a pdf file or save it as a LOo
>  document. That's how I did it in the past. When I would paste the
>  contents, it would include images and all and would be done in seconds,
>  well under a minute for sure.
>  When I paste the content now, it doesn't include pics. The boxes is
>  there and text for the link to the image but no image. It also locks
> > 
> > 
> > 
>  Thanks.
>  Dale
>  
>  :-) :-)
>  
>  I haven't looked into how LO works, but it may have something to do
>  with the tonne of JavaScript HTML pages contain these days and how
>  this is processed/ filtered. When I try it here it works for small
>  amounts of text/pics, but unlike your LO, I do not have java installed
>  as a dependency.
> >>> 
> >>> An alternative you could try is to save the page as HTML - File/Save
> >>> Page As. Then select one of the options to save it as below, which when
> >>> you open with LO does not take long to process. If you select 'HTML
> >>> page complete' it will save all JS and images in a separate folder,
> >>> which you could delete thereafter, or repurpose as you see fit.
> >> 
> >> Now that helps a LOT.  It works just like it used to work.  Very fast
> >> too.  It took maybe one to two seconds and it was done.  Everything is
> >> there too.
> >> 
> >> It takes a long while to compile LOo but I'm going to try disabling java
> >> just to see if that helps.  I'm not sure what all the page contains but
> >> here's a link to the page I just tested this with.  It's not like it is
> >> some super secret site or anything.
> >> 
> >> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/waveforms/555-circuits-part-1.html
> >> 
> >> It looks like plain stuff to me but I have no idea what is going on
> >> behind the scene.  Maybe some others will enjoy that site.  It has some
> >> good info and they add stuff pretty regular. 
> >> 
> >> Thanks much.  It's a workaround but at least I can get them copied and
> >> printed now.  ;-)
> >> 
> >> Dale
> >> 
> >> :-)  :-)
> > 
> > One caveat when using print to pdf, you should immediately check the pdf,
> > sometimes it only saves part of the page, not sure why, trying it again
> > seems to usually work.
> Very true.  I always check when printing to pdf.  I've noticed in the
> past that it sometimes leaves out things as well.  One thing about copy
> and pasting it into LOo, if it's there in LOo then it's there when I
> print.  I have had printing from a web browser leave out things tho. 
> 
> It's good info to have tho. 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 

As a rule I do not have java on my systems.  Before you go recompiling LO to 
take USE=java out, note that LO uses java for a number of plugins and without 
it they won't work.  For example, some of database plugins used in LO Base to 
open and edit SQL databases rely on java.  It's been years since I edited 
database tables with LO, so I have no use for it at present and this is why 
I've taken it out.  YMMV.

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox managed by my organization?

2020-03-03 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 03:58:12 GMT Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 11:16:52PM +0100, n952162 wrote
> 
> > I have a banner that says that "your browser is being managed by your
> > organization". Oh yeah? I guess that would be gentoo. How can I break
> > that relationship?
> 
>   Do you have Avast and/or AVG anti-virus?  See
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1264369 (Firefox) and
> https://www.howtogeek.com/410106/why-does-chrome-say-its-managed-by-your-org
> anization/ (Chrome).  Some browsers have started to report when they detect
> external control, whether by Windows policies, or Avast/AVG.  Firefox
> seems to be following the lead of Chrome here.

Are you sure this applies to Linux?

I had thought the warning shows up when some of the browser's default settings 
have been changed, or additional TLS Certificates have been loaded.  If you go 
to 'about:policies' you'll see anything changed there.  In mine FF has 
DisableAppUpdate, because I manage this via portage and don't need FF to 
notify me, or even worse try to update itself.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice and pasting HTML from web pages.

2020-03-03 Thread Dale
madscientistatlarge wrote:
>
>
> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Monday, March 2, 2020 5:35 PM, Dale  wrote:
>
>> Michael wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, 2 March 2020 23:07:03 GMT Dale wrote:
>>>
 Howdy,
 I don't use LOo a whole lot but several months ago, I noticed a
 problem. Sometimes I go to a electronic type website that has info on
 circuits and how something works. Those pages usually contain text,
 pics and such. I highlight what contains the info I want, which may
 include some things I don't, then copy it to my clipboard. I then go to
 LOo and paste it as HTML since that's what it is. Once pasted, I remove
 things I don't want, such as social media icons and other unwanted
 things. I also make some images larger, make text larger and such as
 well. When I get it right, I print it as a pdf file or save it as a LOo
 document. That's how I did it in the past. When I would paste the
 contents, it would include images and all and would be done in seconds,
 well under a minute for sure.
 When I paste the content now, it doesn't include pics. The boxes is
 there and text for the link to the image but no image. It also locks
> 
>
 Thanks.
 Dale
 :-) :-)
 I haven't looked into how LO works, but it may have something to do with 
 the
 tonne of JavaScript HTML pages contain these days and how this is 
 processed/
 filtered. When I try it here it works for small amounts of text/pics, but
 unlike your LO, I do not have java installed as a dependency.
>>> An alternative you could try is to save the page as HTML - File/Save Page 
>>> As.
>>> Then select one of the options to save it as below, which when you open with
>>> LO does not take long to process. If you select 'HTML page complete' it will
>>> save all JS and images in a separate folder, which you could delete
>>> thereafter, or repurpose as you see fit.
>> Now that helps a LOT.  It works just like it used to work.  Very fast
>> too.  It took maybe one to two seconds and it was done.  Everything is
>> there too.
>>
>> It takes a long while to compile LOo but I'm going to try disabling java
>> just to see if that helps.  I'm not sure what all the page contains but
>> here's a link to the page I just tested this with.  It's not like it is
>> some super secret site or anything.
>>
>> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/waveforms/555-circuits-part-1.html
>>
>> It looks like plain stuff to me but I have no idea what is going on
>> behind the scene.  Maybe some others will enjoy that site.  It has some
>> good info and they add stuff pretty regular. 
>>
>> Thanks much.  It's a workaround but at least I can get them copied and
>> printed now.  ;-)
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
> One caveat when using print to pdf, you should immediately check the pdf, 
> sometimes it only saves part of the page, not sure why, trying it again seems 
> to usually work.
>
>


Very true.  I always check when printing to pdf.  I've noticed in the
past that it sometimes leaves out things as well.  One thing about copy
and pasting it into LOo, if it's there in LOo then it's there when I
print.  I have had printing from a web browser leave out things tho. 

It's good info to have tho. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)