Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info

2023-10-18 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:27:28 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I used cgdisk and GPT for my disk even tho it is small, only 300GBs or >> so, mostly out of habit.  The grub install failed and I did a search.  I >> found this and it worked.  >> >> >> >> grub-install fails with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 12:49:34 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I usually use cgdisk, or cfdisk, but they all do the same thing.  Just a >> different interface.  As long as all this is documented, I'll just >> follow it and it should work.  After all, efi has been around for a long >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:27:28 -0500, Dale wrote: > I used cgdisk and GPT for my disk even tho it is small, only 300GBs or > so, mostly out of habit.  The grub install failed and I did a search.  I > found this and it worked.  > > > > grub-install fails with "grub-install: warning: this GPT

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote: >>> The protective MBR and the BIOS boot partition are two different, >>> unrelated things. The BIOS boot partition is a real partition (usually >>> 1-2MB in size) that's present in the GPT parition table. It's used by >>> Grub as a place to

[gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote: > >> The protective MBR and the BIOS boot partition are two different, >> unrelated things. The BIOS boot partition is a real partition (usually >> 1-2MB in size) that's present in the GPT parition table. It's used by >> Grub as a place to store its files. > > Yes,

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 17:41:23 BST Dale wrote: > >> Maybe some color coding would help??? > Not only that, but judicious use of colour would help a great deal. Having > everything in monochrome is no help at all. Neither is showing a numbered > list > of contents

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 18 October 2023 18:45:27 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 10:23:23 +0100, Michael wrote: > > > Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility > > > partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't > > > remember the exact name. > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 12:49:34 -0500, Dale wrote: > I usually use cgdisk, or cfdisk, but they all do the same thing.  Just a > different interface.  As long as all this is documented, I'll just > follow it and it should work.  After all, efi has been around for a long > while now.  I'm sure

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 18 October 2023 14:57:51 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote: > >> Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility > >> partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't > >> remember the exact name. > > > > Man pages of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:15 PM Grant Edwards > wrote: >> For example, if one >> of the links is down, Ubuntu is really fond of waiting a couple >> mintues for it to come up before it finishes booting. [If it doesn't >> wait for all the network interfaces, how is it going

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote: > >>> Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility >>> partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't >>> remember the exact name. >> Man pages of partitioning tools refer to it as "Protective MBR",

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 10:23:23 +0100, Michael wrote: > > Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility > > partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't > > remember the exact name. > > Man pages of partitioning tools refer to it as "Protective MBR", >

[gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-10-18, Rich Freeman wrote: > Oh well, I rarely reboot so it just hasn't been on the top of my > list of things to fix. I don't really care much on the Ubuntu servers I maintain because they are rarely rebooted, and their network interfaces are always up. A couple weeks ago I was

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:15 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > For example, if one > of the links is down, Ubuntu is really fond of waiting a couple > mintues for it to come up before it finishes booting. [If it doesn't > wait for all the network interfaces, how is it going to do all that > cloudy

[gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote: >> Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility >> partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't >> remember the exact name. > > Man pages of partitioning tools refer to it as "Protective MBR", although > I've > seen it

[OT] Re: [gentoo-user] OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 17:41:23 BST Dale wrote: > Maybe some color coding would help??? Not only that, but judicious use of colour would help a great deal. Having everything in monochrome is no help at all. Neither is showing a numbered list of contents but no sign of the numbers in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 18 October 2023 08:36:06 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 21:50:35 -0500, Dale wrote: > > > EFI is much simpler to work with. for one thing, you don't need the > > > monster that GRUB has become. > > > > While I kinda dread it, it does seem that quite a while ago, it

Re: [gentoo-user] OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 11:41:23 -0500, Dale wrote: >> > Neil, I tired that command journalctl but not sure about the > options. It either returned a lot or nothing related.  I'll make > note of the systemctl command.  If Ubuntu survives, I may need it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 03:15:56 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > I have 4 Ubuntu-based machines here and over the last 6 years I've > > never seen a 1 minute delay to login, much less 5 minutes. > > I see it all the time. Two minutes is the most common delay that I run > into, but I've seen

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 21:50:35 -0500, Dale wrote: > > EFI is much simpler to work with. for one thing, you don't need the > > monster that GRUB has become. > While I kinda dread it, it does seem that quite a while ago, it has > become much easier.  I noticed as I went through the install of