Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/02/2024 16:19, J. Roeleveld wrote: Ah! Got it. That's one of the things I've been trying to figure out this entire thread, do I need to switch home and root to ZFS to take advantage of its snapshot support for backups? In the case you're describing the "source" filesystem(s) can be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/02/2024 15:35, Grant Edwards wrote: If (like rsnapshot/rsync's hard-link scheme) ZFS snapshots are normal directory trees that can be "browsed" with normal filesystem tools, that would be ideal. [I'll do some googling...] Bear in mind I'm talking lvm snapshots, not ZFS ... And you can

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/02/2024 13:12, J. Roeleveld wrote: Clearly Oracle likes this state of affairs. Either that, or they are encumbered in some way from just GPLing the ZFS code. Since they on paper own the code for both projects it seems crazy to me that this situation persists. GPL is not necessarily

[gentoo-user] 147 .pem files in /etc/ need updating

2024-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
After a routine update this morning (last one was probably 3 days ago), I see that 147 files in /etc need updating. When I run etc-update, they're all ".pem" CA files (or links?). It looks like it was all of the .pem files under /etc/ssl/certs. I did a -5, and all seems well. It's a bit alarming

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-06, J. Roeleveld wrote: > If you want to use snapshots, the filesystem will need to support it. (either > LVM or ZFS). If you only want to create snapshots on the backupserver, I > actually don't see much benefit over using rsync. Upthread I've been told that ZFS snapshots 1.

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-06, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 4:38:11 PM CET Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-02-05, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> > On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 6:56:47 PM CET Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:40 PM Thelma wrote: >> >> > If zfs file system is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 4:35:34 PM CET Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-02-05, Wols Lists wrote: > > On 04/02/2024 15:48, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> OK I see. That's a bit different than what I'm doing. I'm backing up > >> a specific set of directory trees from a couple different > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 4:38:11 PM CET Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-02-05, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 6:56:47 PM CET Rich Freeman wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:40 PM Thelma wrote: > >> > If zfs file system is superior to ext4 and it seems to it is. >

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-05, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 6:56:47 PM CET Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:40 PM Thelma wrote: >> > If zfs file system is superior to ext4 and it seems to it is. >> > Why hasn't it been adopted more widely in Linux? >> >> The main

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-05, Wols Lists wrote: > On 04/02/2024 15:48, Grant Edwards wrote: >> OK I see. That's a bit different than what I'm doing. I'm backing up >> a specific set of directory trees from a couple different >> filesystems. There are large portions of the "source" filesystems that >> I have no

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, February 5, 2024 2:35:12 PM CET Rich Freeman wrote: > First, thanks for the Ars link in the other email. I'll give that a read. You're welcome. I found that when I was looking for the latest state of btrfs. I was actually hoping that the biggest issues had been resolved by now. > On