Re: [gentoo-user] my gentoo amd64 does not have sound

2009-12-15 Thread Bruce Hill
/HOW-TOs/alsa-info.sh and pastebin.ca the output? I have a T61 with working sound and webcam built-in mic. Bruce Hill -- Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterward. But properly learned, the lesson forever changes the man.

Re: [gentoo-user] references from thunderbird

2009-12-15 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 03:50:52PM +0300, zhen wrote: Hi. Does anybody know how to make links from thunderbird to be opened in firefox? I know there are options in about:config (network.protocol-handler.app.http etc..). They worked before I updated firefox to 3.5.4. At some moment I noticed I

Re: [gentoo-user] my gentoo amd64 does not have sound

2009-12-15 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:07:52PM -0500, Willie Wong wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:35:20AM -0500, Penguin Lover Marcus Wanner squawked: On 12/15/2009 7:19 AM, Pint??r Tibor wrote: unmute? To unmute sound at all levels, run mplayer and turn the volume up (mplayer is special that

Re: [gentoo-user] GLX module not loaded...

2009-12-16 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 05:32:41AM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I am still haveing one EE in my Xorg.0.log which says the following: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X (EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: off-topic: logitech mice (MX1000)

2009-12-16 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 04:36:45PM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: FWIW, I have a Logitech mouse with a wheel that scrolls up and down, presses down, and clicks left and right. All seem to work fine, except I don't use the latter as I haven't found any purpose for it although I could possibly

Re: [gentoo-user] Correcting some misconceptions (was: What magic does portage use?)

2009-12-16 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 06:56:00PM -0600, Leslie Turriff wrote: As a 30-year veteran of the IBM mainframe programming environment, I can say with authority that most of the enterprises that use them for mission-critical business applications (banking, stock-brokerage, etc.) are

Re: [gentoo-user] usb HD cannot boot without initramfs

2009-12-17 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 09:14:48AM +0800, Xi Shen wrote: ok. but it looks like the gmail web client encourage top post ;) That doesn't make it easy to read. This is how we see it when you top-post: A: Because you are doing it wrong. On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Alan McKinnon

Re: [gentoo-user] Writing a bash script or thinking about it anyway. [now Bash guides]

2009-12-22 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 06:30:15PM -0500, Willie Wong wrote: The Advanced Scripting Guide is brilliant. It's my gospel when Bash scripting, although I'll admit I haven't looked harder for anything else. If there is any better guide out there, I would love to hear about it. I agree. For

Re: [gentoo-user] The Great Macbook Update 1: Audio

2009-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 09:53:43PM +, bn wrote: Hi, I am updating my Macbook Pro installation. While many programs I updated often, the basics (Xorg, kernel, etc.) were taking dust since... well, a lot. I only found time with these holidays. This is therefore probably the first thread

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel 2 manual

2012-10-23 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 08:02:52PM -0200, João Matos wrote: Hi list. I'm still reading the oficial documentation, but I don't think it will be enough, so, if anyone of you know some documentation more detailed, I'd appreciate reading it. emerge -av app-doc/linux-kernel-in-a-nutshell --

Re: [gentoo-user] Heads-up: Several kernel versions have severe EXT4 data corruption bug

2012-10-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 04:54:39PM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Kernels 3.4, 3.5, and 3.6 can result in severe data corruption if you're using the EXT4 filesystem: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTIxNDQ This includes gentoo-sources. I hope the Gentoo developers are

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless dropping connections

2012-10-30 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 01:29:43PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm using wicd-1.7.2.4-r1 and a NetGear DGN2200M v2 wireless AP (802.11n) Several times a day, this thing just drops wireless. I doubt it's my laptop as other devices in the house also get affected. When this happens I usually

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel compile only one new module

2012-11-08 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 06:55:31PM +0100, ifj. Stefán István wrote: Hello! I have a quite good kernel, but today I realised that I need a kernel module that hadn't been compiled before. Is there any way to compile only that new module, and not compiling the whole kernel and all of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 01:00:05PM +0100, mindrunner wrote: someone calls me stupid and dumb, because i am sharing my opinion. this never happened to me on a dev-mailinglist. I came here to help out gentoo users. not to flame war. If I want this kind of conversation, i would sign in to gulli

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 05:56:57AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Please, don't take Volker seriously as anyone who represents the basic discourse here. I black listed him a year ago but unfortunately his rudeness still leaks through. While he is technically capable, far more than me certainly,

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 09:00:35AM -0500, Philip Webb wrote: Don't worry re VAH : he writes like that, but there's no ill-will often he has something useful to say. Most of the time, Gentoo-User is polite + intelligent a good source of Linux education. In this case, as someone else

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 04:14:47PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Freitag, 9. November 2012, 01:38:41 schrieb mindrunner: volker, what is your intention to say i am dumb and stupid. actually you do not know me. everybody does something dumb and/or stupid once in a while. I average

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new system hardware

2012-11-10 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:28:45PM +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote: However, seems like Amazon US ships those bod boys too:

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot with kernel 3.5.7: init not being started

2012-11-10 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 01:23:03PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: ;-) I've built quite a few in my time as a Gentoo user, and one or two when I was still using Debian. Configuring a kernel is more difficult than the available documentation might lead one to believe. There are many

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't want is forced upon you. If it is also based on lies, hate is a valid reaction. A lot of people don't need nor want pulseaudio or systemd. Now it is forced

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 06:24:32PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Say Dude, I have a question (well, two actually) My name is Alan and I've been subscribed on this list for 7 years. What's your

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 07:14:29PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: [snip] Other than your use of profanity, that post was worth making a sticky. I try not to use profanity most of the time

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 07:50:04PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: [snip] It offends me. That's too bad. In public mailing lists profanity happens a lot. I suggest you not to read LKML; Linus is famous

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 09:02:18PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I'm atheists, and I don't see any relation between being or not a religious person, using profanity, or that we respect each other. The three of them are orthogonal, I think. I try to respect every member of this list. To

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 03:57:52AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: FWIW, swearing here is rare. Usually it's understandable when it happens. Threads like this current one are also rare. Unfortunately of late they usually involve Lennart, and that's understandable too: In trying to solve a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:37:03AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:21:06 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: If we also stick to helping someone with their problem, and refrain from replying about how bad or useless we think an app or ideal might be to us, we could avoid flame

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, really? Didn't get the memo. I suppose all my machines (laptops, desktops, servers and media center) running with Gentoo+systemd (and what is more, *without* OpenRC) are a fidget of my imagination. fidget

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:28:52PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: snip -- Neil Bothwick Duly noted and appreciated ... thank you. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:20:42PM -0600, Dale wrote: Well, it appears we have someone willing to fork udev. Yeppie !! Me, I'm looking forward to seeing how this works and giving it a test run when it gets ready. Since it is a fork, shouldn't be to long, I hope. I wonder what they

Re: [gentoo-user] WLAN with fixed IP

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 04:52:25PM +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: I'd like to assign fixed IP numbers to computers of a local map MAC addresses to IP addresses. This is what your /etc/dhcp/dhcp.conf would look like on the router, or how it should be configured wherever DHCP is handed

Re: [gentoo-user] WLAN with fixed IP

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:39:40AM +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, I'd like to assign fixed IP numbers to computers of a local network. Using dhcp as in modules=wpa_supplicant wpa_supplicant_wlan0=-Dwext -iwlan0 config_wlan0=dhcp works just fine but depends on dhcp for IP

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:26:18PM +0100, Cr0k wrote: Hello, Can't you answer correctly to the mailing lists? Each one of your mails goes into my standard Mailbox, while I did a rule to make it goes to a gentoo-user folder... Thanks. -- Cr0k crok.r...@gmail.com Can you learn to

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 04:42:45PM -0800, Willie wrote: Hey Everyone, I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now. It seems that whenever I am in Linux my computer will just turn off. Not shutdown like I did shutdown -r now. Just completely off out of the blue at random times. I

Re: [gentoo-user] udev update changed cd/dvd device name

2012-11-19 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:59:34AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Anyone else run into this problem with udev-171-r9? I updated yesterday and my CD/DVD, which has been /dev/cdrom1 since I built the machine 2 1/2 years ago, is now called /dev/scd0. Machine is x86_64, mostly stable. - Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] udev update changed cd/dvd device name

2012-11-19 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 09:54:15AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks Bruce. That at least goes a long way toward explaining why the system is acting the way it's acting. Threw me for a loop I must say. Interestingly I don't have the elog file you show above. (Not sure I should, just saying

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 3.6: No external Monitor

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:44:08AM +0100, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am using a Thinkpad X301 with a DVI Monitor connected to the mini displayport. That worked perfectly for years, but with Kernel 3.6 (and 3.7rc) the DVI Monitor stays black on boot and it is not visible in xrandr. As if it

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC update to 0.11.5 - safe if using older udev (pinned to udev-181)?

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:46:59AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Anyone? I don't see any news blurbs warning about it, but with everything going on with udev, systemd, etc, I'm not risking updating unless/until I know it is safe. Tia... Charles Have you read the requirements in

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC update to 0.11.5 - safe if using older udev (pinned to udev-181)?

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:17:17PM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: RDEPEND=virtual/init kernel_FreeBSD? ( || ( =sys-freebsd/freebsd-ubin-9.0_rc sys-process/fuser-bsd ) ) elibc_glibc? ( =sys-libs/glibc-2.5 ) ncurses? ( sys-libs/ncurses ) pam? ( sys-auth/pambase

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC update to 0.11.5 - safe if using older udev (pinned to udev-181)?

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:17:17PM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Hey, should be no worries now ... openrc-0.11.5 got moved to stable today, so it should work fine with =sys-fs/udev-181 (stable udev atm). -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 3.6: No external Monitor

2012-11-21 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 06:09:47PM +0100, Norman Rieß wrote: Setting nomodeset does not solve the problem. Regards, Norman Sorry I didn't have the time to reply ... RL is consuming me. You can search on the Linux Kernel Mailing List https://lkml.org/ to see if this bug is there, also. If

Re: [gentoo-user] What is libgcc_s.so.1?

2012-11-21 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 01:25:27PM -0800, Grant wrote: I'm building a minimal Gentoo system but I always get the following error when I try to chroot into the final system: /bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 08:23:08PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: /usr/src/makeover ***IMPORTANT*** The arch/x86 directory is specific to 32-bit i686 kernels. Adjust accordingly if you use a different architecture. #!/bin/bash make \

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 06:59:43PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: have a couple of of IBM clickety-clack 104-keyboard specials that were being thrown out by my former employer a few years ago. I love them. Had to leave mine in China when we moved back last year. If you want to get rid of one...

Re: [gentoo-user] Providing virtual dependency net

2012-11-27 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 07:02:18PM +1100, Adam Carter wrote: I have added rc_net_wlan0_provide=net to /etc/rc.conf, but scripts like sshd still wont start, and when executed report WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started. Why does sshd appear to be specifically

Re: [gentoo-user] Providing virtual dependency net

2012-11-27 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:01:27PM +1100, Adam Carter wrote: I don't see how, so that probably means i'm ignorant of something i need to know. Can you please elaborate? On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 5:52 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 07:02

Re: [gentoo-user] serial in /sys

2012-11-29 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 05:57:46PM +, Jorge Almeida wrote: Anyone knows how to dig into /sys to find the serial number of a device (say, a USB pen)? I few days ago I found by trial and error something like $ cat

Re: [gentoo-user] serial in /sys

2012-11-29 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 07:31:10PM +, Jorge Almeida wrote: It is a matter of programming, not looking. I need a program that creates the symlink when the device is plugged in. Think mdev (more precisely, a complement to mdev that would take care of a few particular devices, to allow

Re: [gentoo-user] Google Chrome leftovers

2012-11-29 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 02:38:48PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks for the info. Actually I haven't tried any version yet. I was just curious about finding some app that might receive text message sent from a cell phone. I.e. - instead of giving my cell phone number which I'd rather keep

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.2-3.5 upgrade unusable: keyboard borked

2012-12-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 06:23:52AM -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I think numlock is on by default in newer kernels -- just turn it off with the key -- I am pretty sure even your laptop has such a simulated key. Where do you get numlock as a kernel option? It is a BIOS option, but

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.2-3.5 upgrade unusable: keyboard borked

2012-12-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 08:06:43AM +, Mick wrote: You can check if rc-update -s -v | grep numlock (or rc-status -s | grep numlock) shows it being set, otherwise add it to see if this makes a difference. -- Regards, Mick Though there is no /etc/conf.d/numlock, Mick's post caused me

Re: [gentoo-user] What utility do you use to sync user files?

2012-12-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 12:21:40PM -0500, Randy Westlund wrote: I've been using rsync to sync binary files, shell scripts, my workspace, and random user files under my home directory across multiple machines. I'm using one server as the master copy, which makes daily incremental backups of my

Re: [gentoo-user] new dhcpcd behaviour

2012-12-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 03:18:38PM -0500, Philip Webb wrote: I updated to Openrc 0.11.6 yesterday on waking the machine up today starting DHCP from a terminal (as I always do), instead of a long list of interactions with the router there's 1 line dhcpcd[1035]: sending commands to master

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC stable pushes

2012-12-07 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 09:24:54AM -0600, William Hubbs wrote: I want to explain about the recent openrc's going directly to stable. The team had been testing from the previous stable, 0.9.x series all the way through 0.10.x. We found out recently that releng needed the new openrc stable

Re: [gentoo-user] System maintenance procedure?

2012-12-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 05:20:36PM -0600, Dale wrote: That's been my experience too. I run @preserved-rebuild when it tells me to but revdep-rebuild rarely finds anything. Thing is, it has a time or two. It is best to run revdep-rebuild and be sure than not to and run the risk of not

Re: [gentoo-user] System maintenance procedure?

2012-12-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 04:48:24PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: What is @preserved-rebuild ? It is a portage set, hence the @ prefix, containing packages that need to be rebuilt in order to link them against the installed versions of libraries. workstation ~ # emerge -a

Re: [gentoo-user] Does anyone else have broken symlinks in /usr/share/man/man1?

2012-12-10 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:27:03AM +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: This is an incredibly inefficient way of testing for broken symlinks, it takes about 100 times as long to run (over ten seconds on my netbook) than find -L /usr/share/man/ -type l What about app-misc/symlinks

Re: [gentoo-user] Does anyone else have broken symlinks in /usr/share/man/man1?

2012-12-10 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:27:03AM +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: This is an incredibly inefficient way of testing for broken symlinks, it takes about 100 times as long to run (over ten seconds on my netbook) than find -L /usr/share/man/ -type l What about app-misc/symlinks

Re: [gentoo-user] System maintenance procedure?

2012-12-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 04:48:24PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: workstation ~ # emerge -a @preserved-rebuild emerge: 'preserved-rebuild' is an empty set emerge: no targets left after set expansion So you have nothing that needs rebuilding. Portage will warn you when the set it

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery of fstab

2012-12-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:48:03PM +, James wrote: I guesses but the / is blank? df snip /dev/sda2 61438696 51276944 10161752 84% /mnt/gentoo/boot /dev/sda3 61438696 51276944 10161752 84% /mnt/gentoo /mnt/gentoo/boot is populated (mounted correctly)

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge sets syntax (@world vs. world)

2012-12-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:53:01PM +0100, Francesco Turco wrote: Hello. A couple of weeks ago I filed a bug because in the Installation Handbook I found some references of the world set in emerge commands, as opposed to @world: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445184 The bug was

Re: [gentoo-user] System maintenance procedure?

2012-12-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 08:05:24AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Of course, all this assumes that your version of portage supports @preserved-rebuild To use it, you simply notice the portage message right at the end of an emerge and run emerge @preserved-rebuild - it's just a regular emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Will ARM take over the world?

2012-12-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 05:05:30PM +, James wrote: Alan, one of the keenest reasons ARM is dominating NOW, is that in the early 1990 one person, helped many fledling embedded linux hacks get embedded linux running on many different flavors of ARM processors. RUSSELL is KING, and imho

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Will ARM take over the world?

2012-12-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 05:55:53PM +, James wrote: Bruce Hill daddy at happypenguincomputers.com writes: Wish my Samsung Galaxy S could have it's piece of crap Android system replaced by arm-linux -- if not it will drive me back to an iPhone. Your problem defined: http

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Will ARM take over the world?

2012-12-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 01:06:23PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Dec 13, 2012 12:10 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: It's nice to see a chip designer not falling into the intel trap of trying to rape every customer for every last cent they have! Don't get me started on

Re: [gentoo-user] Dual or Quad CPU complications?

2012-12-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 08:44:45AM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: NUMA is also an option in the kernel. Should also be fully transparent. I got one machine with NUMA and only had to set an option for it. Does anyone know how to check it's working properly? dmesg | grep NUMA -- Happy Penguin

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:49:23PM -0800, Grant wrote: Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud server concept is amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated server at the same price point far outperforms

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 03:19:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:39:03 -0600 Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: My data is allergic to the cloud ... too much pixey dust. If I get up from my desk, walk down the corridor and turn right, I find myself

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 03:24:03PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Doesn't a good cloud server also have potentially higher availability compared to dedicated? Potentially? Yes. In reality? No. It's not the virtualization that breaks, it's all the surrounding infrastructure,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 07:41:45AM -0600, Dale wrote: Right now, I have /usr on a separate partition so I would need a init thingy to boot. When I switch to eudev, that won't be required, from what I have read anyway. I didn't want the init thingy to begin with either. Dale Let me

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 08:25:08AM -0600, Dale wrote: Pretty much yea. I started making a init thing when they were talking about not supporting /usr on a separate partition. Then about a month ago eudev was announced which means we can boot with /usr on a separate partition and no init

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 09:48:12AM -0600, Dale wrote: Well, it appears that one version is stable: root@fireball / # equery list -p eudev * Searching for eudev ... [-P-] [ ] sys-fs/eudev-0:0 [-P-] [ ~] sys-fs/eudev-1_beta1-r1:0 [-P-] [ -] sys-fs/eudev-:0 root@fireball / # The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:20:05AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2012-12-14 10:39 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: What Mark wrote you is golden. I might only add that if you put: =sys-fs/udev-181 into /etc/portage/package.mask you will have the present

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:52:12AM -0600, Dale wrote: I have the flu, nasty one at that, and I really don't need to add hal to my list right now. That said, the Doctor called and the blood tests said I was healthy as a horse, other than being sick as a dog. :/ Sort of like software,

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:18:21AM -0500, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I will try some more desperate tricks today, like reconnecting the USB pile to see if it at least boots the disks again - is my choice between disks and keyboard? I will find out. My best guess right now is that booting

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 01:24:10PM -0500, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: That's what I've been using. But the hardware failure is illogical too; why would USB and SATA fail at the same time? Or why would southbridge fail when it had been running perfectly fine? I don't really think it was

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 01:43:01PM -0500, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:34:49PM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: Boot with SystemRescueCd and you can't get to a prompt? Currently can't even boot -- it hangs wit a blank screen at the point grub or the rescue DVD would take

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-16 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 05:10:43PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: That was the original reason for having / and /usr separate, and it dates back to the early 70s. The other reason that stems from that time period is the size of disks we had back then - they were tiny and often a minimal / was

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf tweaks for HTPC machine?

2012-12-18 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 05:01:59PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: * X now has hardware acceleration I ran emerge -pv --deep --newuse world to make sure everything was OK. It wanted to rebuild xorg-server and one other lib after the changes in VIDEO_CARDS in make.conf. While I was at, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about optimal mplayer settings

2012-12-18 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:05:14PM -0600, Dale wrote: Walter Dnes wrote: 1) In the past couple of days I finally figured out what I was doing wrong with hardware acceleration (causing lack thereof) with an onboard Intel GPU in my HTPC machine. I've applied the same fix to my desktop.

[gentoo-user] Re: Questions about optimal mplayer settings

2012-12-18 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:38:26PM -0600, Dale wrote: Rather than downloadhelper and a web browser, try: mingdao@workstation ~/test $ youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XITHbsUUlYI [youtube] Setting language [youtube] XITHbsUUlYI: Downloading video webpage [youtube]

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OpenRC error message at boot

2012-12-19 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 05:25:13PM -0800, walt wrote: that. There are some questions that require a group of old farts, and you have found one in this mailing list :) Something smells ... bad ... here. :( -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive (

[gentoo-user] Re: Questions about optimal mplayer settings

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 03:38:15PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 19.12.2012 00:20, schrieb Walter Dnes: 1) In the past couple of days I finally figured out what I was doing wrong with hardware acceleration (causing lack thereof) with an onboard Intel GPU in my HTPC machine. I've applied

Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:23:35AM -0800, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: snip, whack, d200d, cough, spit Puhleeeze don't put such long stuff in an email. Have you heard of attachments? pastebins? Your dropbox postings lost me after reading: Please enable browser-cookies to use the Dropbox website. --

Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 07:41:10AM -0800, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I was under the impression that gentoo strips attachments. At any rate, I summarized as much as possible and only put the the full logs at the end. As for the cookies, shrug so many sites require cookies and/or javascript

Re: [gentoo-user] Ram Problem!

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 04:05:44PM +0100, Teodor Spæren wrote: The possible work around I have thought of is just getting the vanilla kernel from kernel.org, but the gentoo wiki advise against it, since gentoo-sources is a patched kernel. With all due respect, Gentoo is the only distro

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ram Problem!

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 04:52:27PM +0100, Teodor Spæren wrote: That is my concern. If I get it working with a vanilla kernel, and then booting into the system, emerge do not work, it was all wasted. You may want to consider a swap file:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 05:06:41PM +0200, Nuno J. Silva wrote: Now, also, from my understanding, this was already the case for some time (maybe even years?). And that's why I've asked for more details. So, if the udev you use is OK with no initrd, what is in the new udev that actually

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 12:25:02AM +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: On Dec 24, 2012 10:00 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I have not tested the theory but that is what people have been saying. Not only is my /usr separate but it is on LVM partitons too. If I recall correctly, easy

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 3.7.1 SATA errors

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
content omitted from reply This time it has 4 attachments; afaik there were zero attachments the first time (deleted email here so can't check now). No worries, files here now. Do you have a /var/log/messages (might be in rotated, gzipped one even) that includes the 3.6.10 *and* 3.7.1 boot? --

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:05:25AM -0600, Dale wrote: Bruce Hill wrote: SNIP No initrd... YET!!! ROFL When eudev goes stable, then we can disregard that yet. ;-) Dale devfs still works wonderfully ... for principle, if no other reason, that file server will *NEVER* have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 01:23:16PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP The problems with that is these: It worked ALL these years, why should it not now? I have / on a traditional partition which is not going to resize easily.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 04:36:06PM -0600, Dale wrote: One of the reasons I left Mandriva was because of the init thingy. If I wanted one and liked having one, I would have never switched to Gentoo. The init thingy was not the only reason but it was one of them. The reason I do not want

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 05:23:13PM -0500, Michael Mol wrote: Then came the decision to move udev inside /usr, forcing the issue. Now, it'd been long understood that udev *itself* hadn't been broken. The explanation given as much as a year earlier was that udev couldn't control what *other*

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 04:34:00PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm also interested in Bruce's history about initrd. Sounds like if that worked today I'd just use it to make an initrd and be done with it. Unlike you, I guess, I don't have any political position on these images that get used

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 06:29:07PM -0600, »Q« wrote: On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:04:13 -0600 Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: Gentoo had mkinitrd once upon a time, but it's now in attic. Somewhere, sometime, for some reason, initramfs (inital ram filesystem) became vogue

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 04:54:08PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 4:29 PM, »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote: On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:04:13 -0600 Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: Gentoo had mkinitrd once upon a time, but it's now in attic. Somewhere, sometime

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-25 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 02:10:28PM +0200, Nuno J. Silva wrote: No, actually it doesn't. It just has the same kind of very generic claim that has been repeated several times in this thread (which is why? because it won't work) and links to an article that explains why some udev rules would

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-25 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 08:38:30PM -0600, Dale wrote: Bruce Hill wrote: On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 06:29:07PM -0600, »Q« wrote: On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:04:13 -0600 Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: Gentoo had mkinitrd once upon a time, but it's now in attic. Somewhere

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-25 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 10:56:52AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: When you're in charge of over 100 servers as the back-end of a multinational company that has a revenue in excess of 10 million USD per day, even a temporary outage means the CIO, COO, and CEO breathing down your neck. Who is in

Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors

2012-12-25 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 08:53:33AM -0800, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:07:04AM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: emerge -av app-text/wgetpaste wgetpaste /path/to/3.6/.config /path/to/3.7/.config 3.6.10 .config -- http://bpaste.net/show/66307/ 3.7.1 .config -- http

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