Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] PGP User Groups?
Dan Cowsill wrote: Hello list, I've noticed that with linux geekery comes the pursuit of PGP-based email privacy. A great many frequent posters to this illustrious list boast PGP keypairs and frequently sign their correspondences. Some of you even have photo ID's of yourselves in your public keys! (Hello Neil!) Unfortunately, like many of you, I am not an international spy and don't have much to protect with this awesome encryption technology. This leads me to wonder if anyone has ever heard of any PGP user groups that frequently employ encryption and do key signing and the like? Thanks guys! DC Both Linux User Groups that I'm in have PGP key signings on a regular basis. I think that starts to answer your question... -- Eric Martin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
walt wrote: On 09/20/2009 05:40 PM, Dale wrote: walt wrote: In linux bash is the default shell (even sh is a symlink to bash) but in other OS's other default shells prevail. Okay, okay, Alan, you're right, I have not tried every linux distro out there, but when I was a linux noob I tried every one I could find. Back then that was Debian, SuSe, Red Hat, Mandrake (since morphed into something else), and very recently Ubuntu, just to see what all the fuss was about. (I'm sticking with gentoo.) All of those use(d) bash as the default shell, but may have switched while I wasn't looking. Bash *appears* to be the official shell of GNU, as its home page is hosted there: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/ BTW, all of the above distros including gentoo are officially un-endorsed by GNU: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/common-distros.html Actually, /bin/bash is a symlink - /bin/dash on Ubuntu so dash (Debian ash) is the default shell on Ubuntu (and either dash or ash is on Debian). I found that out the hard way when I was scripting and some bash stuff wouldn't work properly. -- Eric Martin D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mythfilldatabase
gigli wrote: Hi Can anyone help me. A newly installed gentoo amd64 system, using funtoo, and mythtv database and setting imported from a backup. When i run mythfilldatabase i got the following error. 2009-07-02 19:22:46.122 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost 2009-07-02 19:22:46.147 XMLTV config file is: /home/martin/.mythtv/DVB.xmltv Empty String at /usr/bin/tv_grab_se_swedb line 348 2009-07-02 19:22:46.946 FAILED: xmltv returned error code 2304. 2009-07-02 19:22:46.956 Error in 1:1: unexpected end of file And thats all. I can't understand where the problems lie. I have perl 5.10 and xmltv 0.5.50 Happy if anyone could help me. Regards Martin Googling didn't bring up anything specific other than a few others having the problem. This ubuntu post [1] has you editing some files but you shouldn't have to in gentoo. I'm running myth as well, what version are you running? I'm looking at the schedules direct page right now [1] but I can't find anything. They are the ones that supply the xmltv data. [1] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1063978 [2] www.schedulesdirect.com HTH -- Eric signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mythfilldatabase
gigli wrote: gigli wrote: Hi Can anyone help me. A newly installed gentoo amd64 system, using funtoo, and mythtv database and setting imported from a backup. When i run mythfilldatabase i got the following error. 2009-07-02 19:22:46.122 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost 2009-07-02 19:22:46.147 XMLTV config file is: /home/martin/.mythtv/DVB.xmltv Empty String at /usr/bin/tv_grab_se_swedb line 348 2009-07-02 19:22:46.946 FAILED: xmltv returned error code 2304. 2009-07-02 19:22:46.956 Error in 1:1: unexpected end of file And thats all. I can't understand where the problems lie. I have perl 5.10 and xmltv 0.5.50 Happy if anyone could help me. Regards Martin Googling didn't bring up anything specific other than a few others having the problem. This ubuntu post [1] has you editing some files but you shouldn't have to in gentoo. I'm running myth as well, what version are you running? I'm looking at the schedules direct page right now [1] but I can't find anything. They are the ones that supply the xmltv data. [1] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1063978 [2] www.schedulesdirect.com HTH I'm using mythtv-0.21_p19961-r2 and xmltv 0.5.50 and i don't understand if the problem lies within mythtvs mythfilldatabase or in xmltv. I have rebuilt all dependencies. Downgraded xmltv and mythtv with the same results. It worked june 15, since then i gave Ubuntu a try since nuvexport and ffmpeg does not work in gentoo, it didn't in Ubuntu either (mythfilldatabase worked thou), reinstalled gentoo, and now i have this I'm running mythtv-0.20.2_p14301 and not using xmltv at all. do you need xmltv with the new version problem. I just ran mythfilldatabase and I'm not having a problem, so I doubt it's the service. Are you getting this error when you run mythfilldatabase by hand, or a cron job? -- eric signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] md5sum mismatch, upgrade from torrent, fsck
Thufir wrote: I suppose I'll have to re-download the iso if the md5sum doesn't match (which it doesn't per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ UbuntuHashes#9.04)? The problem is that the iso is corrupted? Do the md5sums match? If they do you downloaded the cd fine. If not, redownload thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ sudo mount -o loop ~/Desktop/ubuntu-9.04- alternate-i386.iso /media/cdrom0 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ dmesg | tail [ 461.450949] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds [ 461.451532] EXT3-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended [ 461.488324] EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal [ 461.488342] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. [ 616.822097] ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3 [ 616.993243] ISOFS: changing to secondary root [ 617.046821] isofs_fill_super: root inode is not a directory. Corrupted media? [ 636.444512] ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3 [ 636.446011] ISOFS: changing to secondary root [ 636.447168] isofs_fill_super: root inode is not a directory. Corrupted media? thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ md5sum ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso 1dd3245e86b89b38abb01814b05ae299 ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso You need to grab the md5sum file and run md5sum -c (md5sumfile) thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ sudo e2fsck -yv /dev/sda1 [sudo] password for thufir: e2fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008) /dev/sda1 is mounted. What is /dev/sda1? On most of my machines that's boot, although I won't assume anything. Also, I believe you can mount stuff read only via mount -o ro,remount mountpoint and fsck will be *much* happier. WARNING!!! Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage. Do you really want to continue (y/n)? no check aborted. thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ I wasn't quite sure how to run fsck without a live cd... out of curiosity, when I tried to download via the torrent the speed seemed exactly the same as directly downloading the iso but the progress was painfully slow versus directly downloading the CD (which I'll do again). Torrents speeds are based on your peers and isps. Downloads the traditional ways are direct connections to one server. Torrents should be faster but ISPs throttle you quite frequently. I hope this answered everything :) thanks, Thufir -- Eric signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MAC addresses
Anthony Metcalf wrote: Sergey A. Kobzar wrote: James, thank you for the useful tip. The output of macchanger: # macchanger eth1 Current MAC: 00:15:17:1a:6e:6d (Intel Corporate) Faked MAC: 00:15:17:1a:6e:6e (Intel Corporate) # macchanger eth0 Current MAC: 00:15:17:1a:6e:6c (Intel Corporate) Faked MAC: 00:15:17:1a:6e:6d (Intel Corporate) How is it possible? I thought NIC has one MAC only.What does mean 'Faked MAC'? Current MAC = MAC in firmware on the card, Faked MAC = MAC the OS is telling the network? yes, you can set the mac to what ever you want. There's a line in /etc/conf.d/net that explains how to do this (with macchanger). signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]UPS battery dead?
Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:31 AM, maxim wexler bliss...@yahoo.com wrote: Unplug all your electronic devices and plug in a lamp with a 100 Watt incandescent light build. With the lamp on unplug the UPS from the wall and see what happens. If the battery is dead it won't last all that long. Gave ~5 mins. So I let it charge for 24 hrs now it gives me 36 mins. Which is wierd; what happened to all that charge? I haven't had to use it for 6-7 mons. Isn't the unit supposed to stay topped-up? Well, assuming it was a 100 Watt incandescent that really draws 100 Watts, then that's probably 1/2 to 1/3 the draw of a typical desktop PC implying you would get 12-18 minutes before shutdown. (Really rough ideas - just numbers, etc. Don't take it too seriously.) snip Another thing: When I do the remove-the-usb-cable test I don't see the communication lost error in apcupsd.events until I switch the dial-up off and on quickly! In the conf file I have DEVICE: /dev/ttyS[0-3] because the default, /dev/ttyS0, locks out the modem. But why does the UPS need to know about serial ports? It connects by this funny RJ-45/USB cable. I wonder does the manufacturer assume the serial port won't be used? Strange stuff but above my pay grade... - Mark It's not supposed to say DEVICE /dev/ttyS0 for USB, it should just be blank as per /etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]UPS battery dead?
maxim wexler wrote: Only 2.8mins left? The UPS unit, fairly common I suspect, is a Back-UPS ES 350 and less than a year old. It only saw service once last year during an electric storm when the house power failed for a few minutes. Why isn't it charging. Or is it? It says BATTDATE 2000-00-00. Huh? I'd like to test it further but the apcupsd manual recommends at least 5mins time left. If I just unplug it from the back of the PC, will it charge? Is the battery caput? Maxim I had a similar problem at work (but with the windows client). APC told me to charge the UPS overnight with 0 load and then see what that run time is after performing a self test. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is this firewall safe?
Marco wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Eric Martin freak4u...@gmail.com wrote: Marco wrote: Hi all, I set up my first firewall on my notebook (not running any services reachable from outside) using iptables. Since I am new to the topic, could you please verify if the output of 'iptables -L -v' is considered to be a safe firewall? Thanks! Chain INPUT (policy DROP 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination 0 0 ACCEPT all -- lo any anywhere anywhere 0 0 ACCEPT all -- eth0 any anywhere anywherestate RELATED,ESTABLISHED 0 0 REJECT tcp -- eth0 any anywhere anywherereject-with tcp-reset 0 0 REJECT udp -- eth0 any anywhere anywherereject-with icmp-port-unreachable 0 0 DROP udp -- eth0 any anywhere anywhereudp spt:bootps 0 0 LOGall -- eth0 any anywhere anywhereLOG level warning prefix `INPUT ' 179 ACCEPT all -- wlan0 any anywhere anywherestate RELATED,ESTABLISHED 0 0 REJECT tcp -- wlan0 any anywhere anywherereject-with tcp-reset 0 0 REJECT udp -- wlan0 any anywhere anywherereject-with icmp-port-unreachable 0 0 DROP udp -- wlan0 any anywhere anywhereudp spt:bootps 0 0 LOGall -- wlan0 any anywhere anywhereLOG level warning prefix `INPUT ' Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination 0 0 LOGall -- anyany anywhere anywhereLOG level warning prefix `FORWARD ' 0 0 LOGall -- anyany anywhere anywhereLOG level warning prefix `FORWARD ' Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 5 packets, 1691 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination 0 0 ACCEPT all -- anylo anywhere anywhere 0 0 LOGall -- anyeth0anywhere anywhereLOG level warning prefix `OUTPUT ' 152 LOGall -- anywlan0 anywhere anywhereLOG level warning prefix `OUTPUT ' snip Sorry for the bad format. gmail decided to insert some sub ideal pagebreaks... Talking about the 1 log line at the bottom you mean I should configure it to not specify an interface (eth0, wlan0)? Thanks! Yeah, not specifying an interface for the log rule to apply to will make it catch all interfaces (including lo but all traffic has already been approved ahead of time so it won't catch).
Re: [gentoo-user] Is this firewall safe?
Marco wrote: Hi all, I set up my first firewall on my notebook (not running any services reachable from outside) using iptables. Since I am new to the topic, could you please verify if the output of 'iptables -L -v' is considered to be a safe firewall? Thanks! Chain INPUT (policy DROP 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination 0 0 ACCEPT all -- lo any anywhere anywhere 0 0 ACCEPT all -- eth0 any anywhere anywherestate RELATED,ESTABLISHED 0 0 REJECT tcp -- eth0 any anywhere anywherereject-with tcp-reset 0 0 REJECT udp -- eth0 any anywhere anywherereject-with icmp-port-unreachable 0 0 DROP udp -- eth0 any anywhere anywhereudp spt:bootps 0 0 LOGall -- eth0 any anywhere anywhereLOG level warning prefix `INPUT ' 179 ACCEPT all -- wlan0 any anywhere anywherestate RELATED,ESTABLISHED 0 0 REJECT tcp -- wlan0 any anywhere anywherereject-with tcp-reset 0 0 REJECT udp -- wlan0 any anywhere anywherereject-with icmp-port-unreachable 0 0 DROP udp -- wlan0 any anywhere anywhereudp spt:bootps 0 0 LOGall -- wlan0 any anywhere anywhereLOG level warning prefix `INPUT ' Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination 0 0 LOGall -- anyany anywhere anywhereLOG level warning prefix `FORWARD ' 0 0 LOGall -- anyany anywhere anywhereLOG level warning prefix `FORWARD ' Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 5 packets, 1691 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination 0 0 ACCEPT all -- anylo anywhere anywhere 0 0 LOGall -- anyeth0anywhere anywhereLOG level warning prefix `OUTPUT ' 152 LOGall -- anywlan0 anywhere anywhereLOG level warning prefix `OUTPUT ' It all depends on what you're trying to do. My internet facing boxes have a default OUTPUT policy of DROP and I only allow certain traffic off of the box (helps protect me from unauthorized services). Also, you're dropping bootps (same ports as dhcp) on udp so I don't think you can get a dhcp address like that. If you're running any services you won't be able to talk to them (ssh). Turn off forwarding in the kernel config (via /etc/sysctl.conf) as well. It also took me a few runs to figure out the firewall config (due to the rules and formatting). The last two output rules can be combined into one. Have 1 log line at the bottom of your tables and that will take care of that. Clean and short configs will help immensely when things don't work. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] unable to shutdown or halt cleanly (console-kit and esd not killed)
Allan Gottlieb wrote: At Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:36:24 -0400 Eric Martin freak4u...@gmail.com wrote: Do you have any nfs mounts? I find that I have problems shutting down as well and I suspect it's because I'm turning off eth0 before unmounting my shares. I need to do more research though so I can back this up. Yes I have an nsf mount, but it seems to be unmounting. The problem is definitely that console-kit-daemon does not die and thus has open files in usr so it can't be unmounted. (I am using LVM2) thanks for you help, allan I'm running LVM as well and I have nfs but I didn't know until I just looked. Lately it's been working ok so next time it happens I'll check if that daemon is running. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] unable to shutdown or halt cleanly (console-kit and esd not killed)
Do you have any nfs mounts? I find that I have problems shutting down as well and I suspect it's because I'm turning off eth0 before unmounting my shares. I need to do more research though so I can back this up. On 4/8/09, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Often (now, perhaps always) when I try to halt using either halt from the command line or the shutdown option from the gnome dialog box at the welcome screen the effort fails. If I try to shutdown from gnome, the shutdown hangs at the unmounting file systems. I then tried shutdown now from a text terminal. When in single user mode, I tried umount -a which indicated that several filesystems were still busy. I tried lsof and noticed that console-kit-daemon and esd were still running. I manually kill console-kit-daemon and can then halt. /var/log/messages contains Apr 8 00:32:46 allan console-kit-daemon[6139]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_async_queue_unref: assertion `queue-waiting_threads == 0' failed I would appreciate help in understanding why policy-kit-daemon is not terminating on a normal system shutdown. thanks, allan
Re: [gentoo-user] svn broken ?
Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, has anyone the same problems? I'm updating a Gentoo system and now 'svn' is broken For all sites I've tried I get svn: OPTIONS of 'http://svn.python.org/projects/python/branches/py3k': could not connect to server (http://svn.python.org) I have upgraded to dev-util/subversion-1.5.6 and net-misc/neon-0.28.4 Thanks for a hint, Helmut. Have you tried just connecting with a browser? It could be a problem w/ the server. Also, what is the syntax of the command you're using? svn co http://svn.python.org/projects/python/branches/p3yk ? -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources
Jorge Morais wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:36:41 +0500 Mike Kazantsev mike_kazant...@fraggod.net wrote: On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:13:38 -0300 Jorge Morais please.no.spam.h...@gmail.com wrote: If you had upgraded because of a needed feature, I assume you would have read about the release, and thus would know about Tuz. So you upgraded to a ~arch kernel without any need. Why? The question is probably not adressed to me, but... It's still a way to check out these new features hands-on :) It's a kernel. And while it's ~arch on gentoo, it's actually marked 'stable' by developers, and, since gentoo ebuild does pretty much nothing but unpacking it, it should be pretty much as stable as any non-~arch package. Even if it already released, it has a higher chance of bugs than a more established kernel. Waiting for the package to become stable on Gentoo is not just about ebuild bugs; it is also about waiting for enough users in general to test the upstream package, and Gentoo users in particular to test the package within Gentoo. And I don't know about the usual quality of brand new Linux releases, but in general, I believe upstream developers want to release early (to get testers and updated contributions), while a distribution may wait until the software is ready and tested. Cheers, Jorge I personally do it to get all of the code updates. all of my boxes are on ~arch for gentoo-sources / hardened-sources and I haven't had 1 problem yet. Also, the kernel is the last place that you want to drag your feet for updates. If there's a bug in the kernel I want to have it fixed asap. Granted you can also argue that I'm injecting buggy code. It's two sides of the same coin. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources
Jorge Morais wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:48:22 -0400 Eric Martin freak4u...@gmail.com wrote: Also, the kernel is the last place that you want to drag your feet for updates. If there's a bug in the kernel I want to have it fixed asap. Granted you can also argue that I'm injecting buggy code. It's two sides of the same coin. Come on, that is what bugfix releases are for. Gentoo-sources is patched for bugs. I prefer to use vanilla-sources, so I rely on upstream's bugfix releases. Currently I use 2.6.27.21. I will stop using 2.6.27.x when a later version becomes gentoo-stable, and either 1) upstream stops bugfixing 2.6.27 2) 2.6.27 lacks a feature I want 3) 2.6.27 becomes so old that I fear it might be incompatible with the rest of Gentoo. Probably 1 or 2 will happen much earlier than 3. PS: I of course know that sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.27.21 is currently ~x86, but my rationale is that 2.6.27 is Gentoo-stable, and I want the latest bugfix release from the stable release family I am using. I don't know why, in the case of the 2.6.27.x version, the Gentoo kernel team is taking so long to stabilize the latest bugfix release. PS2: If something I said sounds strange, remember English is my second language. Like I said, you're waiting for x months (I think it's 3) for the gentoo teams to mark it from ~arch - arch. That's 3 months that you don't have bug fixes in. N matter what though, the most important thing to remember is to do what you're comfortable with. While I think that Gentoo is the greatest distro of the greatest OS, me suggesting it to somebody who can't learn how to use it is foolish, people need to be comfortable and happy with the solution. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] chess software and libraries
Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Hi! I suppose, there may be some kind of open (free net-accessible) libraries whith chess tasks like two-move checkmate (something for beginners). Are there such libraries? Is there appropriate software in the protage tree to access these libraries? is this what you're looking for? app-misc/chesstask I haven't used it myself but it sounds good. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Usernames in ssh attacks
Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Johan Blåbäck johan.bluecr...@gmail.com wrote: I've always had usernames when it comes to sshd's log entries in auth.log, like the following: time hostname sshd[5926]: error: PAM: Authentication failure for username from ip-adress Well, I don't use PAM, just key-based authentication only, so I always see only the IP getting rejected since it doesn't even give them a place to try a user/password :) It's just weird that it is refusing a connection from u...@domain rather than simply the IP. I guess they could be trying to ssh u...@myhost.net or something. The one with [U2FsdGVkX19g32YZVKMsQkl+mouWITILOicY4Iq9OQo=] as the username is interesting. I wonder what that's all about. I too use only PubKey but they need to send a username so ssh knows where to look for the public key. Your two options boil down to 1) install fail2ban (I installed it on all of my external ssh boxes and I love it) 2) change the ssh port to something other than 22 (Security by Obscurity but it frees up your logs so you can see real problems). The two may me mutually exclusive as I'm not sure if you can tweak fail2ban's ssh rules to monitor another port. I just chock it up as log spam unless I see definite bad patterns. But again, with public key access only and banning root from logging in via ssh I don't think anybody is getting far unless there is a flaw in ssh. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Usernames in ssh attacks
Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Eric Martin freak4u...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Johan Blåbäck johan.bluecr...@gmail.com wrote: I've always had usernames when it comes to sshd's log entries in auth.log, like the following: time hostname sshd[5926]: error: PAM: Authentication failure for username from ip-adress Well, I don't use PAM, just key-based authentication only, so I always see only the IP getting rejected since it doesn't even give them a place to try a user/password :) It's just weird that it is refusing a connection from u...@domain rather than simply the IP. I guess they could be trying to ssh u...@myhost.net or something. The one with [U2FsdGVkX19g32YZVKMsQkl+mouWITILOicY4Iq9OQo=] as the username is interesting. I wonder what that's all about. I too use only PubKey but they need to send a username so ssh knows where to look for the public key. Your two options boil down to 1) install fail2ban (I installed it on all of my external ssh boxes and I love it) 2) change the ssh port to something other than 22 (Security by Obscurity but it frees up your logs so you can see real problems). The two may me mutually exclusive as I'm not sure if you can tweak fail2ban's ssh rules to monitor another port. I just chock it up as log spam unless I see definite bad patterns. But again, with public key access only and banning root from logging in via ssh I don't think anybody is getting far unless there is a flaw in ssh. Oh, I am not concerned about the attacks. I just thought it was weird that I saw u...@domain when I normally see only IP or only domain. They are already refused connection as the log shows :) Thanks, Paul yeah, after I read your message I realized that I didn't quite answer your question. Somebody mentioned they probably configured the dns PTR record incorrectly which is my guess. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation
Drew Tomlinson wrote: Aaron Clark wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between low and high bandwidth connections with the Windows version. I've installed the TightVNC viewer on my Gentoo box and it does not appear to have any of these features. I'm looking for recommendations. Did you check the version numbers for the two TightVNC clients? You might need to switch to a ~arch version of Tight on Gentoo if the stable version is too old. If you're running Gnome, you could also take a look at Vinagre as a client. It does connection bookmarking, multiple connections on tabs, etc. Thanks to all for the suggestions. My TightVNC on Linux is version 1.3.9 and is from net-misc/tightvnc-1.3.9-r2. As I am using Gnome, I've installed Vinagre and it appears to be what I need. I just wish there was some way to scroll in fullscreen mode. Thanks, Drew this is probably a moot point, but nobody decided to ask. What features was tightvnc missing under GNU/Linux?
Re: [gentoo-user] Any good instructions for creating a Live CD?
Mark Knecht wrote: Hi all, From a thread on another list (pro-audio/music oriented) we're thinking about creating our own Live CD. I'd like this at least initially to be based on Gentoo. Are there any good, up-to-date instructions around about how to do this? In Google Books I found something called Linux Live CDs:Building and Customizing Bootables. It had the following link which is dead. Did it move somewhere? I cannot find it yet. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_build_a_LiveCD_from_Scratch I found this in the forums. Any idea about how well it might work? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=244837 There's a section talking about Catalyst. The first thing is says is that it's not for the casual user. On a scale of 1-10 how difficult is something like this? (I suspect that if I have to ask it's too difficult.) ;-) Also this for general info: http://www.livecdlist.com/wiki/index.php/LiveCD_Creation_Resources Most interesting to me would be something like cloning an already up-and-running system. Is that possible? Thanks in advance, Mark Cloning a live system is pretty easy. I'm using a live usb boot device based off of the gentoo-amd64 minimal cd (and I'm adding more as I go). The liveUSB howto [1] on docs.gentoo.org is great and will answer most questions. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Powertop constantly tells me to enable USB suspend, but it is already enabled
Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Eric Martin freak4u...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: Hi, As the subject line says, powertop constantly tells me my USB devices (keyboard/mouse) are active 100% of the time and to enable USB suspend, which I do, but it keeps telling me constantly. How can I tell if: A) USB suspend is actually on or not B) powertop is doing anything when I press U I've got USB Suspend/resume support in my kernel, and according to the kernel docs the usbcore.usbsuspend default delay is 2 (powertop suggests changing it to 1). Powertop's refresh delay is 5 seconds. Thanks, Paul Check for USB_SUSPEND in /proc/config.gz I do not have a /proc/config.gz but i have this in /boot/config: CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND=y Are you sure you're running a kernel with that configured? Why not enable kernel .config? It's [CONFIG_IKCONFIG] General Setup - Kernel .config support. Obviously it adds more to your kernel images but it makes tracking down problems like this very easy. I too have a usb keyboard / mouse and I'm pretty sure powertop doesn't register 100% for those interfaces... Heck, unless you're 100% opposed to turning on kernel .config support (or can't reboot the server), turn it on, recompile, install, reboot and see if CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND is there, and see what powertop says. I was trying to chase down a similar problem (disabling kernel options) when I was getting vmalloc() errors with xfs and I discovered that they always weren't taking affect. My guess was I rebooted before cache could be written to disk. HTH -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Powertop constantly tells me to enable USB suspend, but it is already enabled
Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Eric Martin freak4u...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Eric Martin freak4u...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: Hi, As the subject line says, powertop constantly tells me my USB devices (keyboard/mouse) are active 100% of the time and to enable USB suspend, which I do, but it keeps telling me constantly. How can I tell if: A) USB suspend is actually on or not B) powertop is doing anything when I press U snip Check for USB_SUSPEND in /proc/config.gz I do not have a /proc/config.gz but i have this in /boot/config: CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND=y Are you sure you're running a kernel with that configured? Why not enable kernel .config? It's [CONFIG_IKCONFIG] General Setup - Kernel .config support. Obviously it adds more to your kernel images but it makes tracking down problems like this very easy. I too have a usb keyboard / mouse and I'm pretty sure powertop doesn't register 100% for those interfaces... Heck, unless you're 100% opposed to turning on kernel .config support (or can't reboot the server), turn it on, recompile, install, reboot and see if CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND is there, and see what powertop says. I was trying to chase down a similar problem (disabling kernel options) when I was getting vmalloc() errors with xfs and I discovered that they always weren't taking affect. My guess was I rebooted before cache could be written to disk. Hi, I actually had it enabled in my kernel, but as a module, and I have never used it before so I didn't even realize it was there. I had to dig a little to find out that modprobe configs is what I needed to turn it on. I have this section: # # Miscellaneous USB options # CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y # CONFIG_USB_DEVICE_CLASS is not set # CONFIG_USB_DYNAMIC_MINORS is not set CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND=y # CONFIG_USB_OTG is not set # CONFIG_USB_MON is not set # CONFIG_USB_WUSB is not set # CONFIG_USB_WUSB_CBAF is not set So it appears I do have it properly configured, at least. Is there any way to tell whether or not a device is suspended, or if autosuspend is kicking in? I don't know what's it's supposed to do, really. Does the fact that I'm using a desktop computer mean that there's a chance USB suspend isn't even available? Ok, now I'm confused. USB_SUSPEND can't be configured as a module, so I have no idea what you're talking about. I apparently don't have it configured on this machine (shame on me) so I'm recompiling right now, I'll reboot and let you know so I can help more. Again though, the only way I'm 100% sure *anything* is in my running kernel is by checking /proc/config.gz. Granted that's not even 100% because there are plenty of times I just add modules and don't install the new kernel. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Powertop constantly tells me to enable USB suspend, but it is already enabled
Paul Hartman wrote: Hi, As the subject line says, powertop constantly tells me my USB devices (keyboard/mouse) are active 100% of the time and to enable USB suspend, which I do, but it keeps telling me constantly. How can I tell if: A) USB suspend is actually on or not B) powertop is doing anything when I press U I've got USB Suspend/resume support in my kernel, and according to the kernel docs the usbcore.usbsuspend default delay is 2 (powertop suggests changing it to 1). Powertop's refresh delay is 5 seconds. Thanks, Paul Check for USB_SUSPEND in /proc/config.gz
Re: [gentoo-user] Bash Server Sockets
While I don't think there's a way. I took a shell scripting class a year or two ago and we used netpipes for tcp connecrions. Since it was a very bash class we'd have used bash if possible On 1/16/09, Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote: On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 21:53 -0800, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: Hi all, In Bash /dev/tcp/host/port can be used to write to a TCP socket. This works nicely so I was very curious whether it would work the other way too: is it possible to have a Bash script listen on a particular port as if it were a server? I couldn't find anything in the Bash manual about it. Google does find a few examples but they all use nc. But that's cheating! ;-) Is it possible with just Bash, no extra tools? (If yes, please enlighten me as to how, obviously I could not get it to work.) ... and some would even say using bash to begin with is cheating.
[gentoo-user] Oops when mounting (some) XFS volumes
I'm at the end of my rope with this problem and I'm hoping that people here can help. I have a few boxes that are Oops'ing on startup due to mounting some xfs volumes. I created a machine with the 2008.0 live cd and the stage3-i686-hardened tarball. I'm using xfs on top of lvm2 and some xfs volumes will mount while others won't. I first noticed this in 2.6.27-hardened-r3, but I've since compiled 2.6.24-gentoo-r8 (same kernel as livecd) 2.6.27-gentoo-r7 2.6.27.10 (vanilla) and they all have the same problem. home, tmp, usr, and var are all xfs volumes (on top of lvm) but only var refuses to mount. I'm using the same kernel config (albeit churned through make oldconfig) to eliminate and discrepancies but I don't think it's kernel related as they all do it (or I'm configuring the kernel incorrectly). Here's a quick summary of the relevant livecd utils and what I currently have on my box: livecd xfs 2.9.7 lvm libary 2.02.28 lvm library version 1.02.22 lvm driver version 4.12.0 my box xfs 2.10.1 lvm libary 2.02.36 lvm library version 1.02.24 lvm driver version 4.12.0 I've looked through b.g.o, gmane and google but I couldn't find anything relevant. I'm attaching a trimmed version of dmesg with the errors and my emerge --info. Thanks! BTW, I just used a different fs on another machine with this problem but either something is broken and should be fixed, or I'm doing something incorrectly and need to be educated. EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly. Freeing unused kernel memory: 6140k freed ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 3 PCI: setting IRQ 3 as level-triggered i801_smbus :00:1f.3: PCI INT B - Link[LNKB] - GSI 3 (level, low) - IRQ 3 r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.3LK-NAPI loaded r8169 :01:02.0: PCI INT A - Link[LNKB] - GSI 3 (level, low) - IRQ 3 eth1: RTL8110s at 0xf881ef00, 00:14:6c:33:50:14, XID 0400 IRQ 3 EXT3 FS on hda3, internal journal Filesystem dm-3: Disabling barriers, trial barrier write failed XFS mounting filesystem dm-3 Ending clean XFS mount for filesystem: dm-3 Filesystem dm-0: Disabling barriers, trial barrier write failed XFS mounting filesystem dm-0 allocation failed: out of vmalloc space - use vmalloc=size to increase size. xfs_buf_get_noaddr: failed to map pages allocation failed: out of vmalloc space - use vmalloc=size to increase size. xfs_buf_get_noaddr: failed to map pages Ending clean XFS mount for filesystem: dm-0 Filesystem dm-1: Disabling barriers, trial barrier write failed XFS mounting filesystem dm-1 allocation failed: out of vmalloc space - use vmalloc=size to increase size. xfs_buf_get_noaddr: failed to map pages allocation failed: out of vmalloc space - use vmalloc=size to increase size. xfs_buf_get_noaddr: failed to map pages allocation failed: out of vmalloc space - use vmalloc=size to increase size. xfs_buf_get_noaddr: failed to map pages allocation failed: out of vmalloc space - use vmalloc=size to increase size. xfs_buf_get_noaddr: failed to map pages allocation failed: out of vmalloc space - use vmalloc=size to increase size. xfs_buf_get_noaddr: failed to map pages Ending clean XFS mount for filesystem: dm-1 Filesystem dm-2: Disabling barriers, trial barrier write failed XFS mounting filesystem dm-2 allocation failed: out of vmalloc space - use vmalloc=size to increase size. xfs_buf_get_noaddr: failed to map pages BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at IP: [c08298df] down_trylock+0x3/0x12 *pde = Oops: [#1] Modules linked in: r8169 i2c_i801 Pid: 2224, comm: mount Not tainted (2.6.27-hardened-r3 #3) EIP: 0060:[c08298df] EFLAGS: 00010046 CPU: 0 EIP is at down_trylock+0x3/0x12 EAX: EBX: ECX: f6add500 EDX: 0246 ESI: 5000 EDI: f6e86c00 EBP: f7ba49c0 ESP: f6e95d7c DS: 0068 ES: 0068 FS: GS: 0033 SS: 0068 Process mount (pid: 2224, ti=f6e94000 task=f79fbb80 task.ti=f6e94000) Stack: c08f2703 c08de57a f6acf660 f6acf660 f6e86c00 c0b81ae5 f6e95da4 c08f9af3 c0b81ae5 f692a040 f6e86c00 f6e86c00 5000 c08ddc45 00500020 5000 c0c4818c f6e86c20 0040 f6e86c00 00500020 Call Trace: [c08f2703] xfs_buf_cond_lock+0x5/0x16 [c08de57a] xlog_alloc_log+0x15a/0x24d [c08f9af3] cmn_err+0x6f/0x7f [c08ddc45] xfs_log_mount+0x54/0x113 [c08e5a5d] xfs_mountfs+0x323/0x5ec [c08f0327] kmem_zalloc+0xb/0x32 [c08e685d] xfs_mru_cache_create+0xf7/0x143 [c08cf139] xfs_fs_cmn_err+0x17/0x1a [c08f93e7] xfs_fs_fill_super+0x1c4/0x359 [c0887333] disk_name+0x1f/0x5b [c085b3a8] get_sb_bdev+0xbb/0xf9 [c086a35e] alloc_vfsmnt+0x32/0xa7 [c08f958e] xfs_fs_get_sb+0x12/0x16 [c08f9223] xfs_fs_fill_super+0x0/0x359 [c085b53c] vfs_kern_mount+0x37/0x6e [c085b601] do_kern_mount+0x29/0x5e [c086b96a] do_new_mount+0x57/0x84 [c086be82] do_mount+0x1a3/0x1ca [c0840512] __alloc_pages_internal+0x92/0x353 [c090fcce] strncpy_from_user+0x2c/0x35 [c086c0a4] sys_mount+0x76/0xb0 [c08036a8]
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: rsh failed : Connection reset by peer
Matt Harrison wrote: Chuanwen Wu wrote: I guess maybe rsh does not allow to login as root. Probably not, RSH was abandoned years ago and I'm surprised there are any applications still around that haven't moved to ssh. Exposing the root user to an already unsafe transmission is asking for trouble IMHO. Unfortunately I can't help with the configuration but I thought a brief warning should accompany any discussion on RSH. Matt Doesn't ssh work as a drop in replacement for rsh? Try ssh instead. I know in cvs, there's an environment variable CVS_RSH that you set to ssh and everything works fine. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH login with both key AND password?
Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Dave Jones dave.jo...@xs4all.nl wrote: Paul Hartman wrote on 08/01/09 00:28: Hi, Normally I'm using SSH with regular password login, and I've read about generating a keypair and having a password-less connection that way. Is there a way to require both the key AND a password? Basically if I put the key in my SSH client at work, I don't want a co-worker to be able to login to my home PC, or someone to grab my phone, etc. Is there a way to put a passphrase on the key (seperate from my user account password)? Maybe that would work... Otherwise I've thought about having a dummy SSH account and then su - realuser to get access, but that seems kind of messy. I've always used password login and IP-restricted it, but now I'm traveling more and never know what IP I might be connecting from, so using a key seems to be the best plan, or maybesome kind of portknocking (but that's difficult from restricted ssh environments such as a phone). By default ssh-keygen creates a key pair with a passphrase. It's your choice to enter or omit a passphrase. If you've generated a key without a passphrase, you can add a passphrase using ssh-keygen -p Entering a passphrase encrypts the private part of the key, which you keep only on the server. You only need the public part of the key on the client. Cheers, Dave It works great. Thanks everyone for your responses! Paul Well, almost great :) I can't figure out how to get NXclient to connect. It says the key is corrupt or has a passphrase (which it does). Has anyone used NX with a key-based SSH with passphrase? Thanks, Paul I figured it out. It was a two-part solution: 1) password logins must be enabled to use system authentication with NX. Since I don't want password logins, I had to use NX's internal user and password database instead. This requires maintaining separate passwords for NX... 2) the nx user is locked and passwordless; I had to give it a password in order to unlock it. After doing that, NX now works! *mental note: if I ever want to revoke someone's access to my machine or change their password, I must remember to check for SSH keys NX user accounts (which are actually SSH keys as well) in addition to changing the password on their system account. Thanks again, Paul You could also use ssh-agent to unlock the key if you don't want to use a null-passphrase key signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel linux-2.6.27-gentoo-r7 won't load network!
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:06:28 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: I've seen a dev complain that most of the problems he's had to deal with have been due to oldconfig, so I don't use it at all. I copy the config in from the previous tree, then I run menuconfig and search for lines ending in [NEW] or [DEPRECATED]. How is this different from using make oldconfig, apart from the UI? I don't know; I just pick up my clues where I can. Perhaps there's a difference in handling of unchanged or default values. Unchanged values are just that. When a config option is new, make oldconfig prompts for a choice,with a default option (the same default that menuconfig uses). The only real difference is that with menuconfig you have to go through the options, looking for those marked NEW (and risking missing an important one) while oldconfig presents them to you in sequence,asking for your choice on each one. I have boxes running 2.6.28 on which I have used oldconfig on every change since switching them from2.4 to 2.6 Amen to that. I've been doing that since 2.4 also and I'm not having any problems. Any other way is just creating unnecessary work.
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with resolv.conf
Hung Dang wrote: Hi all, I have a strange problem that the resolv.conf file is reset to the default file every time I reboot my computer. Does anyone has similar problem before? Thanks, Hung dhcpcd does this. Are you running dhcp on the machine?
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with resolv.conf
KH wrote: Hung Dang schrieb: Hi all, I have a strange problem that the resolv.conf file is reset to the default file every time I reboot my computer. Does anyone has similar problem before? Thanks, Hung I had a problem like this when I used vpn. Never solved it so. kh I want to amend my last statement: dhcpcd *CAN* do this. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] update brings no recognition of tty hence no login
Harry Putnam wrote: After updating today (from only a few days ago) I'm getting a situation that makes it impossible to login. unable to determine your tty name The login prompt is there but after typing in the name and hitting enter I only get the above comment. Googling on this I find a gentoo bug (245370) Dec 13 that looks like it is similar.. but the fix mentioned there... backing up to an earlier version of ncurses (5.6-r2) did not clear my problem. It may actually be a different bug since I don't see some of the the other stuff mentioned in that thread. I haven't ran revdep-rebuild yet... that was my next move but had to go to a different part of town where I can't really access that machine. Does anyone recognize this problem without further diagnostics? If not then I will be back to the problem machine later tonight and supply more information. Ideas about what info would be most useful would be appreciate What packages did you update? It sounds like a udev problem, although I'm admittedly grasping at straws. Knowing what packages you updated will really help.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo rsync servers time out
Mick wrote: I have noticed this phenomenon which I am not sure I can explain very satisfactorily. Just after midnight (GMT) any attempt to resync proves futile: == # eix-sync * Running emerge --sync Starting rsync with rsync://88.156.78.16/gentoo-portage... rsync error: received SIGUSR1 (code 19) at main.c(1286) [receiver=3.0.4] snip Starting retry 1 of 3 with rsync://137.226.34.228/gentoo-portage Checking server timestamp ...Welcome to rsync.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (137.226.34.228). snip An hour or so later resync'ing happens without any problem. Why is this? When it works the second time, is it the same server? rsync.gentoo.org and rsync.$CONTINENT.gentoo.org are just cnames pointing to servers so you could be getting different hosts via dns round robin. This is evidenced by the two different ips in your post. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] oocalc document always needs recovery when opened
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 24 December 2008 00:20:51 Mark David Dumlao wrote: A very very quick fix: rename or move your ~/.openoffice directory and openoffice should start out with fresh everything. I don't know how openoffice handles backups and caching though, so if you'd like to preserve your settings maybe you could look into the subfolders there and see if the backuped/cached document is there somewhere. That did indeed make the problem go away. I considered comparing the old and new directories to find the incorrect setting, but decided not to - there was nothing special configured there that I can't easily redo. I too have had that problem and decided to look for the issue. Unfortunately I haven't found anything. When I get back home I might try to figure this out... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)
Mark David Dumlao wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Am I the only one here that sees this is a stupid and completely irrelevant thread? HTML mail is like farting when you meet the Queen - you just don't do it. There isn't a rule about it, it's not an exam question and there never was a formal process that came up with it. But if you do start raising one cheek to split the crack and let rip, the butler might come along nicely and ask you not to. At which point you should say um, gee, thanks, I didn't know that... That was a really dumb analogy. It conveniently ignores the problem and blows the situation out of proportion. As I said, very many mail readers _default_ to html mails, and a significant part of user to user contact is happily oblivious to it. It just doesn't come up in everyday parlance. Forgive this one seething reaction to your uncalled-for ridiculous holier-than-thou attitude, but the Internet didn't stop growing 10 years ago. It doesn't matter that there isn't a formal rule. What matters is there is no way to find out about the de-facto rule in one of the standard use-cases of a mailing list - which is to just ask a few quick questions and filter out any irrelevant topics. A few quick observations: a) You're probably not going to change the way people perceive html email on this list b) just because you don't read all of the threads on this list doesn't mean you're exempt from them. There are plenty times that somebody asks a question and the answer is, search the archives for XYZ, we already covered this, and please search before asking. This is one of those threads c) continuing along this line runs the risk of pissing off the very people who you're asking for help. I get that you don't like the way things are, but this list is a community and we all agree to abide by certain rules. The rules don't change every time a new person joins the community. Granted, it would be nice if the mailing list FAQ said 'No HTML mails and don't top post' along with the rule on vacation emails. However, this list isn't the forum as this is gentoo-*user*; a lot of people here are users and not devs. Granted, I know some people here are devs but this is still a *user* list. As I was trying to check everything in the thread I read Alan McKinnon's message (that he just sent) reminding us to stop acting like kids, so I'm going to stop here. G'Night all!
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)
Mark David Dumlao wrote: But it is a problem that must be addressed. It doesn't help to boil the situation into an inaccurate but amusing caricature of the problem. That's how the many bad interfaces get developed. The problem is solved for my case. I'm not going to be using html mails. But ignoring the problem isn't going to make it disappear for everyone else - there isn't a way for a user to find out they're being ignored. That's all that needs to be said. I've seen plenty of emails going around requesting people not top-post and not to post via html. I don't think it's as big of a problem as this thread makes it out to be. While I'm sure some people do ignore posts that fall into those categories, there's not really much you or I can do about it. You admit that you ignore anything that you're not looking for, maybe we should address that group of members on this list. One could argue that everybody should read every message and comment if they can, but that's not what happens. Do you honestly believe that people who ignore html emails are doing something different than you for ignoring any post you don't care about? That argument can be easily silenced when you realize that some people don't care for html formatted email. Anyway, my purpose in sending that last post was to say my piece and shut up, not continue this thread as I'm getting tired of it and I'm going to ignore it very soon.
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)
Mark David Dumlao wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Eric Martin freak4u...@gmail.com wrote: b) just because you don't read all of the threads on this list doesn't mean you're exempt from them. There are plenty times that somebody asks a question and the answer is, search the archives for XYZ, we already covered this, and please search before asking. This is one of those threads This isn't one of those threads. In the vast majority of those cases, there is at least the item to search for. There wasn't one in this case. c) continuing along this line runs the risk of pissing off the very people who you're asking for help. Shake up who needs to be shaken up. If people get offended by even getting suggested to the fact that their rules are hard to detect, they are going to be offended by a lot of things anyway, and questions are going to be some of them. I get that you don't like the way things are, but this list is a community and we all agree to abide by certain rules. The rules don't change every time a new person joins the community. I think you're missing the point. I never asked the community to change its rules. I'm only saying that these particular rules were invisible, and there's no way to find out about it, and that's going to be a problem for any user community. this isn't some big secret, you just don't read all of the threads. There are 5,120 results for html+email when searching the gmane archives of gentoo-user. The link below is the search I used, sorted by date (descending). http://search.gmane.org/?query=html+emailauthor=group=gmane.linux.gentoo.usersort=dateDEFAULTOP=andxP=Zhtml%09ZemailxFILTERS=Glinux.gentoo.user---A
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)
Mark David Dumlao wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Eric Martin freak4u...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen plenty of emails going around requesting people not top-post and not to post via html. I don't think it's as big of a problem as this thread makes it out to be. While I'm sure some people do ignore posts that fall into those categories, there's not really much you or I can do about it. I don't like defeatist attitudes just because they're related to community changes. There are certain parts of the community that can be readily improved (typically relating to centralized rules, FAQs, etc) and certain parts that are very difficult to improve (typically relating to the users' attitudes). If someone makes even a passing note of this on the website, then my single bug report might do the work of several dozen dont post in html mails over time. Do you honestly believe that people who ignore html emails are doing something different than you for ignoring any post you don't care about? That argument can be easily silenced when you realize that some people don't care for html formatted email. That's a pretty easy question to answer and substantiate. Yes. Posts are typically discriminated upon based on their content. On the other hand, html posts are discriminated based upon their formatting. This means questions that people would otherwise have answered get ignored. Content discrimination is a null transaction. Formatting discrimination is at some times a null transaction and at some times negative (friction). I looked at your original post, the person who replied to you did so in a concise manner that he doesn't like html emails. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht nicolas.s-...@lapostes.net wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:06:26PM +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: er, anyone? You may try by sending a mail using the text format instead of the HTML one. I don't read more than one line when it's written in HTML. I suspect that a lot of contributors do the same here. Please, conform to the netiquette. That was one of the coldest, most invisible, and hardest to troubleshoot communication errors I've ever seen. I don't even know where to begin. I don't know if he could have made that any clearer. That being said, I'm done contributing to spam on the list. Please bottom post and post in a text only format. For many people (myself included) this is the first mailing list they joined. Nobody was handed a manual up front, for the most part you learn as you go.
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot login with publickey on sshd
Mick wrote: On Monday 01 December 2008, Mick wrote: On Monday 01 December 2008, Eric Martin wrote: What did you use to generate the key? Also, what does the client / server say for the key fail? I used something like: ssh-keygen -v -t rsa -b 2048. I have even generated a second key pair and tried that too, with no success. The client messages are in the first message I sent to the list - basically showing this: debug1: Connection established. debug3: timeout: 14828 ms remain after connect debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /home/michael/.ssh/.ssh/id_rsa. debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-BEGIN' debug3: key_read: missing keytype debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type 'Proc-Type:' debug3: key_read: missing keytype debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type 'DEK-Info:' debug3: key_read: missing keytype debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug3: key_read: missing whitespace . . . debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug3: key_read: missing whitespace debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-END' debug3: key_read: missing keytype The server messages are shown here: http://pastebin.centos.org/22705 I have now also tried to generate a key pair on the server, move the private key over to the client and then try to login - still no result! :-( It has to be some sort of incompatibility between the two versions of OpenSSH. Don't know what else to assume with this problem. It definitely looks like the server doesn't like your private key. Did you remember to update(read: add) the public key on the server? Also, I generated an ssh key using the exact same syntax that you used and my key looks different that what I can glean about your key. The ---BEGIN, Proc-Type and DEK-Info lines are in an old dsa key I created, while the rsa key just says BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY- followed by key data. The DSA key says the same, except DSA as opposed to RSA. From the logs it looks like w formatting issue, given the whitespace errors. have you tried loading your key into an agent? try: ssh-agent /bin/bash ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa This will unlock your key and let that session authenticate for you. It also has the nice side effect of checking if your private key is a real private key. The only time I have a problem w/pub/private keys is when I create them on a windows box and try to export it to ssh. The other way around always works for me. HTH -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot login with publickey on sshd
Great to hear that the problem is solved! I've used puttygen before to convert keys (both ways) but when I used it the other day to create a key on windows convert it wouldn't work. Oh well! On 12/18/08, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 18 December 2008 23:17:13 Mick wrote: The only time I have a problem w/pub/private keys is when I create them on a windows box and try to export it to ssh. The other way around always works for me. The MSWindows generated keys will work, either from PuTTY or Cygwin, but you have to be careful with hard returns at the end of lines (CR/LF). Use Notepad++ to paste your key in and you should find that it works fine. PuTTY comes with a utility to convert it's keys to openssh format. I insist my PuTTY users do this themselves before they send me the public key to be deployed on the servers. It works well for me - if they get stroppy and don't do this, they don't get access shrug -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Webmin Question - was Print to cups printer from Windows?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:13:28 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: But back onto your original question. Webmin is a problem that cannot be fixed. It needs to have root priviledges, the root password needs to go over the wire to the webmin http server, and to the best of my knowledge is not subject to routine security scrutiny. I would not trust it further than I can throw it, and that's not very far. To be fair, they do recommend that you run webmin over HTTPS if using it over the Internet, but SSH does give the added benefit of key-based authentication I used to use webmin and I found that it made me forgot how to do real things. However, it is nice on occasion. If you want to go secure yet run over the internet, only push ssh to your firewall, and connect to your server via pubkeys. Tunnel server:80 (or server:443) via ssh to your localhost and now you have webmin running through an ssh tunnel. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] lanmap ebuild
Justin wrote: Eric Martin schrieb: Justin wrote: It is in sunrise now. Uh, I can't find it. I sync'd sunrise and ran update-eix. Eix can't find it and I don't see it in the dir structure...Am I missing something? It is, see here: http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/sunrise/browser/sunrise/net-misc/lanmap So it should be there HuhI had to run update-eix again to find it. I'm installing it right now, thanks! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] lanmap ebuild
Justin wrote: It is in sunrise now. Uh, I can't find it. I sync'd sunrise and ran update-eix. Eix can't find it and I don't see it in the dir structure...Am I missing something? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [bit OT] 32 vs. 64 bits (Thanks)
firefox 64bit is unstable for me, and I also think I have a problem w/thunderbird / enigmail. Other than that I'm happily running 2 64bit machines On 12/9/08, pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 14:59:00 +0100, pat wrote Hello, I've bought a new laptop with Core 2 Duo processor which is 64 bit. My question is if applications (see below) compiled and running over 64 bits are stable enough or if I should compile for 32 bits. The applications are: - Seamoneky/Firefox - Java - Flash - Audacious - mplayer - VirtualBox/VMware - Qemu - Kerberos/OpenLDAP/OpenSSH (for these I think they are stable) - X.org/fluxbox - system suspending I have 4GB RAM and I know better is to compile for 64 bits, but for me is more important stability. Thanks a lot Pat Thanks for all advices. I'm going to try amd64 and I'll see :-D Thanks Pat
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot login with publickey on sshd
Mick wrote: On Saturday 29 November 2008, Eric Martin wrote: Mick wrote: Hi All, For some reason my Gentoo rsa public key is not liked by 3.9p1-11.el4_7 sshd, which is running on a CentOS server. On the Gentoo machine I am running net-misc/openssh-5.1_p1-r1. This is what it shows: === debug1: fd 3 clearing O_NONBLOCK debug1: Connection established. debug3: timeout: 14835 ms remain after connect debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /home/michael/.ssh/id_rsa. debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-BEGIN' It sounds like you're using a pgp public key, is this on purpose? AFAIK, you need to convert pgp keys - openssh keys before you use them. Have you tried making a public key via ssh-keygen? Thanks Eric, The --BEGIN string is I believe from the private key generated using ssh-keygen. If looks like this: = -BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY- Proc-Type: 4,ENCRYPTED DEK-Info: DES-EDE3-CBC, X XX... etc. = where X is the hash of the key. The public key starts with: = ssh-rsa X...etc = As I mentioned the same ssh key pair seems to work fine with other servers. What did you use to generate the key? Also, what does the client / server say for the key fail? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot login with publickey on sshd
Mick wrote: Hi All, For some reason my Gentoo rsa public key is not liked by 3.9p1-11.el4_7 sshd, which is running on a CentOS server. On the Gentoo machine I am running net-misc/openssh-5.1_p1-r1. This is what it shows: === debug1: fd 3 clearing O_NONBLOCK debug1: Connection established. debug3: timeout: 14835 ms remain after connect debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /home/michael/.ssh/id_rsa. debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-BEGIN' It sounds like you're using a pgp public key, is this on purpose? AFAIK, you need to convert pgp keys - openssh keys before you use them. Have you tried making a public key via ssh-keygen? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] FLAC to mp3 converters?
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Mittwoch, 5. November 2008 18:59:42 schrieb Eric Martin: IIRC, there is a fuse filesystem in portage that does exactly that. I don't have any experience with it but it warrants a look. Wow, indeed! sys-fs/mp3fs. Bye... Dirk I'm thinking of using that to have my music in flac, and use mp3fs to have itunes look at it.
Re: [gentoo-user] FLAC to mp3 converters?
IIRC, there is a fuse filesystem in portage that does exactly that. I don't have any experience with it but it warrants a look. On 11/5/08, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:12:44 -0200, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: I wouldn't trust something GUI-based; it would probably call the mp3 encoder with suboptimal default settings. Any decent program would let you adjust the MP3 settings. My experience so far is that most GUI multimedia-encoding programs offer far less options than a command-line program. Sometimes the only choice is codec and bitrate, and the bitrate sometimes comes in a drop-down menu of low, medium, high. I have done many video encodings with mplayer, and in this case adjusting settings yield drastic benefits to quality/bitrate. You also need to extract the ID3 tags from the FLAC file and then write them to the MP3 file. I don't care about these, but I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to preserve them.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent documentation in /usr/share/doc from being bzip2'ed ?
Why not go even easier and use bzcat,bzless,zcat,and zless On 10/30/08, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: , | % emerge --info libxcb | Portage 2.2_rc12 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0/no-multilib, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 x86_64) [blah] Any ideas why PORTAGE_COMPRESS_* aren't set on my box. Because you haven't set them. Therefore they take the defaults. BTW, 'emerge --info' doesn't print out every portage variable, only the interesting ones (e.g. ones useful for submitting bug reports). BtW, how do I see what PORTAGE_COMPRESS_EXCLUDE_SUFFIXES is set to. # cat /etc/make.conf /etc/make.globals /etc/make.profile/make.defaults \ |grep -m 1 ^PORTAGE_COMPRESS_EXCLUDE_SUFFIXES Also the man page for make.conf lists many common defaults.
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh configuration guide
Ssh disconnects on its own accord even with keepalive. I disable all methods of authentication except for public keys. You'll have to create a pub/private pair and copy the public key to $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys. I'm on my blackberry so I can't type out full directions but gentoo has docs. On 10/10/08, David Rioja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Falko escribió: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:06 AM, David Rioja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my very first post to the list, so hello you all :) I've been editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config in order to configure SSH as told in the guide at gentoo.org. The options you have to set for a quick start configuration are: Port 22 Protocol 2 ServerKeyBits 2048 SyslogFacility AUTH LogLevel INFO LoginGraceTime 60 PermitRootLogin no RSAAuthentication no PubkeyAuthentication yes PasswordAuthentication no PermitEmptyPasswords no PAMAuthenticationViaKbdInt no Compression yes KeepAlive yes ClientAliveInterval 30 ClientAliveCountMax 4 I have encountered two issues in that: 1.- When restarting the sshd service you are told PMAAuthenticationViaKbdInt is deprecated. 2.- KeepAlive is not commented in the default configuration file, there is TCPKeepAlive instead. I suppose same options are the same. Could anyone confim that? Thanks! If you want are truely quick start configuration, you should use the defaults that get installed after you install ssh. Basically, thost default will give you a working ssh that is secure and that is more than likely to work out of box. I'm not sure which Gentoo quickstart guide you are following, but it is an out of date guide. I recommend emerge -1 openssh, then running etc-update and applying the default configuration. Your goal is to get a basic working ssh daemon, right? Yes, I wanted only make it work over the lan. Default options seemed not to work when I tried, perhaps I forgot to start the service... who knows? :-/ By the way, besides unabling ssh access for root, I is not a good idea enabling KeepAlive? So won't be great problems if anyone go away leaving his session active. Am I mistaken?
Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] dial-up, switching isp's and other thoughts.
Dale wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: Dale wrote: Hi again, Same topic, same thread. Cool huh? [snip] Anybody know of any problems with these folks? Somebody see something I missed? Oh, $9.95 is a lot better than $22.95. I noticed that right away. Are they monthly charges? Wow, that's about $150 per year. With those savings you could afford a domain and someone to host it! If you don't want a full blown web host, many places will just store your email and manage the dns for you. Then you could have [EMAIL PROTECTED] as your email address! I have thought of having my own site and stuff but being on dial-up just takes ALL the fun out of it. The dial-up out here sucks even on dial-up standards. I get 24Kb which is about 3KBs/sec. I plan to go talk to the cable company in a local town to see if they have any interest in putting cable out here. That would be so cool. I could get Vonage then and save another $500 or $600 a year. I'm also going to check on Net Zero in a little bit. Ideas welcome. Dale :-) :-) Dale, do you get good cell phone reception out by you? You can get a sprint aircard and a linksys router that has a pcmcia adapter in it to split the signal. It's not blazing fast but @ 60/month it's way better than dialup. BTW, I'm sure you can do it with providers other than Sprint but I've only used the Sprint ones. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] SSHd: Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
Michael Sullivan wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 15:27 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I hooked up my old server box today so that I could update the software, only to find that I could not ssh over to it: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ssh bullet Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive). There were no 'official' logs, but a website I found on google suggested running /usr/sbin/sshd -ddd -p 2202 and then trying to shell over with ssh -p 2202boxname Here's the output. I piped it to a file: [snip] I tried upgrading PAM and rebooting, but it didn't solve the problem. I'm running pam-1.0.1, if that matters... what problem? you haven't actually said what is / isn't working! What's the output from the client when you try and ssh in with the command ssh -p 2202 boxname? I thought I was pretty clear on that, but here it is again: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ssh -p 2202 bullet Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive). As you can see, I'm still locked out. try # ssh -p 2202 -vv bullet or #ssh -vv bullet as that will give you debug info from the client side of the connection. Is it safe to assume that you logged into it via the console to start SSHd on 2202? Also, does your user exist on the box? It sounds like 'no', especially when btmp is involved. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot partition question
Kevin Philp wrote: I already have 32 bit Ubuntu up and running on my computer and I am about to install the AMD64 version of Gentoo. I have a separate /boot for Ubuntu - should I use the same /boot for Gentoo or am I better off using a separate boot partition for each operating system? Thanks Kevin. Same /boot will be fine. Actually, I using two separate /boot partitions would be really annoying if not close to impossible.
Re: [gentoo-user] Synchronizing my music collection
Grant wrote: I store my music collection on my desktop and I'd like to keep my laptop in sync with an exception. My directory structure is laid out like: ~/music/artist/album/ which contains flac files, a cover.png file, and a folder called CD. I'd like to synchronize the flac files and cover.png but keep the CD folder out of it completely. How should I do this? - Grant The thing that jumps to me immediately is rsync with a --exclude=CD -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how touchy is /var really? And how to keep tabs on a new disk?
Michael Higgins wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:18:39 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dienstag, 12. August 2008, Michael Higgins wrote: Now, was that a stupid thing to do, or should everything under /var continue to work still, without issues? afaik it should work. /home is mounted in fstab, just like rootfs. I'm worried about a reboot not working for some reason . it should work. I would probably use bind mounting, but that is a matter of taste. This was what I thought I should do, but wasn't sure how to do it. Makes sense now, seems to have worked well. As for the new disk, it is only new to this machine. It's SCSI and sits on its own controller, reiserfs format. I think perhaps it originally was intermittently failing in a higher-speed controller and got swapped out. Is there a way I can keep regularly checking it for performance issues, should any crop up? smartd Is this in portage? Cheers, sys-apps/smartmontools Available versions: 5.36-r1 5.37 ~5.37-r1 5.38 {minimal static} Installed versions: 5.38(21:59:32 06/13/08)(-minimal -static) Homepage:http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ Description: control and monitor storag -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Synchronizing my music collection
Grant wrote: I store my music collection on my desktop and I'd like to keep my laptop in sync with an exception. My directory structure is laid out like: ~/music/artist/album/ which contains flac files, a cover.png file, and a folder called CD. I'd like to synchronize the flac files and cover.png but keep the CD folder out of it completely. How should I do this? - Grant The thing that jumps to me immediately is rsync with a --exclude=CD Man, rsync is easy to use. I imagined something else. Would rsnapshot be useful in this case? What are the advantages of using a daemon instead of remote-shell? - Grant Let me get this straight. Rsync being easy to use is a downside? I've never used rsnapshot but judging by eix it sounds like it might work... -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Odd portage / eix behavior
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 08 August 2008 19:58:46 Eric Martin wrote: On one of my boxes, eix shows every package as (*) which is testing for my current arch but stable on some other. emerge --info reports x86 as my arch, so I don't know what the problem is. I don't think it's a huge problem as it's just an annoyance but I might be missing something. I don't know where to start on google / forums so I figured I'd start here. I recall something similar happening to me a while ago, on a disconnected box that hadn't been updated for 6 months. I was getting weird status symbols just like you after a sync. In my case, an upgrade to the latest ~arch portage fixed it. You seem to be running purely x86 right? I assume as a first step you have done all the sensible things - remerge latest stable portage, emerge --sync, checked /etc/portage/* for silly masks that you forgot about? Yes to everything except the 'purely x86'. I'm running ~x86 on a few things dev-perl/Video-Frequencies ~x86 dev-perl/Video-ivtv ~x86 media-tv/ivtv ~x86 app-misc/lirc ~x86 x11-drivers/xf86-video-ivtv ~x86 sys-power/powertop ~x86 app-admin/puppet~x86 dev-ruby/facter ~x86 media-tv/mythtv ~x86 Portage is 2.1.4.4 which my other computers are running. This was my local rsync mirror that sync'd every two days and my other machines sync'd off of it. This is actually happening on two boxes, although I created the problem on the second. It's my mythbox, and I cloned the box via rsync to make a myth-dev box so I can fix it without downtime. My wife is ready to kill me every time I break the mythbox. Portage didn't have the problem on myth-dev, and then I rsync'd over and the problem was created so I know it's some setting somewhere... -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Odd portage / eix behavior [SOLVED]
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 08 August 2008 19:58:46 Eric Martin wrote: On one of my boxes, eix shows every package as (*) which is testing for my current arch but stable on some other. emerge --info reports x86 as my arch, so I don't know what the problem is. I don't think it's a huge problem as it's just an annoyance but I might be missing something. I don't know where to start on google / forums so I figured I'd start here. I recall something similar happening to me a while ago, on a disconnected box that hadn't been updated for 6 months. I was getting weird status symbols just like you after a sync. In my case, an upgrade to the latest ~arch portage fixed it. You seem to be running purely x86 right? I assume as a first step you have done all the sensible things - remerge latest stable portage, emerge --sync, checked /etc/portage/* for silly masks that you forgot about? I figured it out! /etc/make.profile was linked to /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/2008.0 rather than /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/2007.0 (as all of my other machines are). Changing that solved it. What I don't get is why that would break things... -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems installing Gentoo on an Asus EeePC 701
Ricardo Saffi Marques wrote: Hello folks. I have an Asus EeePC 701 (4GB) and I'm having problems installing Gentoo on it, so I wrote this giant e-mail to help you understand what is going on and what I have done and can't do. I have been using Gentoo for a while, so I am pretty comfortable on installing it and configuring it. snip Please don't hijack threads. Please write a new email to the list if you wish to start a new thread. Here's a google search with lots of good resources on hijacking threads. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=thread+hijackingbtnG=Google+Search thanks! -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Odd portage / eix behavior
On one of my boxes, eix shows every package as (*) which is testing for my current arch but stable on some other. emerge --info reports x86 as my arch, so I don't know what the problem is. I don't think it's a huge problem as it's just an annoyance but I might be missing something. I don't know where to start on google / forums so I figured I'd start here. eix portage produces: [I] sys-apps/portage Available versions: (*)2.0.51.22-r3 (*)2.1.1-r2 (*)2.1.4.4 ~2.1.5.6 ~2.2_rc1 ~2.2_rc5 ~2.2_rc6 {build doc elibc_FreeBSD elibc_glibc elibc_uclibc epydoc linguas_pl selinux userland_GNU} Installed versions: 2.1.4.4(07:40:54 02/17/08)(-build -doc -epydoc -linguas_pl -selinux) Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/index.xml Description: Portage is the package management and distribution system for Gentoo Here's the first few lines of emerge --info: Portage 2.1.4.4 (default/linux/x86/2008.0, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 i686) = System uname: 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 i686 Celeron (Coppermine) Timestamp of tree: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:20:01 + distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) [disabled] app-shells/bash: 3.2_p33 dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.1.4 dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r14 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.18.1-r2 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.61-r2 sys-devel/automake: 1.6.3, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.18-r1 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.26 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.23-r3 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 TIA -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems installing Gentoo on an Asus EeePC 701
Ricardo Saffi Marques wrote: Eric Martin wrote: Please don't hijack threads. Please write a new email to the list if you wish to start a new thread. Here's a google search with lots of good resources on hijacking threads. You don't have to explain to me what thread hijacking means. I moderate a Brazilian e-group of 2900 people and am always saying that to members. No need to get upset, I was politely asking you not to thread hijack and pointing you towards references Tell me what made you think I did that, because it sure ain't clear for me. It shows up under the Adding a gentoo workstation to Active Directory Network thread in thunderbird. Looking at the headers, your message has an In-Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] which means it was in reply to a message. Jeez, wake up. I wrote that e-mail from scratch. Regards, Saffi -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF-TOPIC] Eee 701 thread
Ricardo Saffi Marques wrote: Apologies for any misunderstanding and if I seemed angry. I wasn't. Just felt misjudged. Anyways, I was checking here and noticed that I've written and wanted to send a reply to that thread Adding a gentoo workstation to Active Directory Network which never arrived to the list (not here and seems it didn't there too). So there *is* a chance I was confused and ended up sending the Eee question as a reply to that thread, but with a brand new subject and body. In case that did happen, it happened as a mistake and I apologize again. Certainly not my intention to promote flames on this list, which I consider a very good one. Cheers! Best regards, Saffi No worries :) -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] way off-topic - is it possible to log webmail messages content in an enterprise network
Albert Hopkins wrote: Doesn't Gmail support SSL? My email provider provides support for SSL connections (via HTTP, LDAP, POP). If that's the case then it would be extremely difficult (you will need to fake the server's host keys). Furthermore, the ethics of such a practice is questionable. For which case I would side on blocking outside emails altogether rather than get into a situation where you have to justify sniffing someone's personal bank transactions, e.g. -a gmail is only ssl on sign in if you go through webmail. After that it's all in the clear. POP and IMAP are running securely however (which is why I check my stuff via imap) -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] way off-topic - is it possible to log webmail messages content in an enterprise network
Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Albert Hopkins wrote: Doesn't Gmail support SSL? My email provider provides support for SSL connections (via HTTP, LDAP, POP). If that's the case then it would be extremely difficult (you will need to fake the server's host keys). Furthermore, the ethics of such a practice is questionable. For which case I would side on blocking outside emails altogether rather than get into a situation where you have to justify sniffing someone's personal bank transactions, e.g. -a gmail is only ssl on sign in if you go through webmail. After that it's all in the clear. POP and IMAP are running securely however (which is why I check my stuff via imap) If you simply change the URL to https on gmail, you are using SSL. The default is not to use it, so, you gotta type it yourself. https://mail.google.com/mail Has it always been that way? I could have sworn that only the login was SSL and everything else was in the clear (granted, I don't think I ever tried to change it to https). Live Learn
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make oldconfig
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: James wrote: Hello, It seems like I remember that 'make oldconfig' is not needed any more, to pass the current (booted) kernel option to the .config for building a new kernel. Of is 'make oldconfig' still a good idea? It's not needed, but a good idea to see if there are any new options. Why is it not needed? I could have sworn that we touched on this a week or two ago where somebody said that /proc/config.gz could be read by make config but people nixed that. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] make oldconfig
Dale wrote: Daniel Pielmeier wrote: 2008/8/4, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, It seems like I remember that 'make oldconfig' is not needed any more, to pass the current (booted) kernel option to the .config for building a new kernel. Of is 'make oldconfig' still a good idea? James At least in the kernel Makefile there is no hint about /proc/config.gz which contains the running kernel configuration, so I think make oldconfig or your favourite kernel configuration tool is still needed. If there is no .config or .config.old it will load a default configuration which is probably not what you want. Having a config in /proc is a option in the kernel. You just have to turn it on. It is under the General setup as Enable access to .config through /proc/config.gz. I have mine here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /proc/config* -r--r--r-- 1 root root 10060 2008-08-05 14:19 /proc/config.gz [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # It can prove helpful at times. Dale :-) :-) yeah, but it doesn't change that you still have to run make oldconfig. I love /proc/config.gz, especially because of zless and zgrep -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] make oldconfig
James wrote: Hello, It seems like I remember that 'make oldconfig' is not needed any more, to pass the current (booted) kernel option to the .config for building a new kernel. Of is 'make oldconfig' still a good idea? James You still need make oldconfig AFAIK. I copy my .config to the new sources branch and run make oldconfig just like always. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Sync'ing and compiling pkgs for multiple PCs
Stroller wrote: On 31 Jul 2008, at 01:59, Simon wrote: ... Your email is very long, so I'm not sure if I've taken it all in, but what I'd suggest is a shared /usr/portage directory (easily done by NFS) and distcc. This creates a dependency on the host that contains the portage tree. It also remove some flexibility. For example, taking my laptop away from my 'portage pc' would make it impossible for me to modify my current installs while away. There are other consideration and the use of a sync'ed portage tree on each pc vs using nfs is a debate that I won't go into now and this part is not much of an importance in my problem... compilation is!... Yes, your words about dependency and flexibility are valid, but this is also the most straightforward way to sync multiple machines at once. If you do need to emerge a package when the laptop is away from home then just --sync and it builds a portage tree at the missing mountpoint (if that makes sense). You may find it more elegant to make the one machine an rsync server for the others. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/rsync.xml distcc is, IMO, a bit more elegant than (for instance) trying to manually emerge binary packages for machine A on PC B. You can tell it to share the work or just unload it to the most powerful machine. There may be concerns about using a binary package if USE flags are different between the two machines, but distcc ensures that the package is built using those defined in make.conf of the machine on which you're running emerge. Yes! I was actually trying distcc today for the first time and got it working from the perspective of my fastest computer, I got some trouble though (see below). What you mentioned about running the `emerge -uDN world` on each individual machines + sharing built packages is absolutely awesome. Best of all worlds if i could say! Great! I'm glad you're happy with this. You're NFS exporting a sub-directory of /usr/portage, then, in order to share the built packages? However, when using distcc, I first made a trial with a small package 'xmahjongg' and got a nice x4 speedup on the overall emerge. I wanted to try with a larger package, 'povray' and stumbled on a linker issue, the issue is described below and this is the only obstacle on my way now. As I fear doing a `emerge -e system emerge -e world` would never complete using distcc... Doing: `time emerge povray` without distcc yields a functionnal package, while when distcc was enabled, I would get lots of undefined references to some __pthreads functions. But I just tried and it seems to work fine, not reproducible, so I'll drop my distcc issue and go on with the -e recompilation. I assume that the undefined references to __pthreads function are errors which stop the compile? Or that they occur when you start the app, causing it to crash? Rather than compilation warnings? I assume compilation errors. My usage is that I can turn distcc off for the duration of the compile when I see something like this, and not bother investigating it further, but I think the most likely cause is that a library is needed for compilation that is not present on the distcc server. Portage accepts the compile-time dependency because it is filled on the distcc client, the machine on which you've run emerge, but when that particular bit is sent off to the distcc server then that machine doesn't have the lib needed. I would imagine that, assuming the above belief is correct, then the workaround would be to `emerge -o` the package on the other machines on your LAN (or the fastest machine, if you are using only that to emerge) before distcc'ing it. This is slightly inelegant. If you mostly have the same packages on all machines then hopefully you shouldn't encounter this scenario too often, although I'd also think that different USE flags could affect it. I'm also somewhat suspicious of different architectures - you wouldn't try compiling for ARM or MIPS on an x86 PC, but I'm not sure how compiling on an Athlon for a Pentium 3 or 4 affects things. Finally you should make sure all machines are using the same versions of gcc and glibc (also binutils? what else?). Stroller. You can cross compile, I've done it multiple times before When my Athlon built packages for my celerons. Check out the Distcc-Cross Compile guide here [1]. Apparently the doc has been updated since I last checked as the tools have gotten full rewrites. 1) http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cross-compiling-distcc.xml -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] firefox et al. crash when attaching file in gmail --- dbus?
Alan E. Davis wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Montag, 28. Juli 2008, Andrey Falko wrote: To eliminate the first factor do: emerge -e world. no. Just no. For what it's worth, I started emerge -e system quite some time ago. It stops about 1/2 way through on glib. Apparently this is common. I started it up again as emerge -e system --skipfirst. How bad of an idea was that? I think about 200 out of about 350 pkgs have been rebuilt. I'll halt this and rebuild dbus again. Etc/ WRT emerge -e world I had a few problems where glibc wouldn't build and tracking down the cause of that fixed my other problems. Could be coincidence, could be related. I rebuilt the toolchain once or twice to get glib going again, recompiled and my problems were solved. The second factor can be eliminated by downgrading to firefox2. If it is a firefox3 problem then the bug report would go to firefox developers. It does affect firefox 2 also. All users except root. All gecko browsers, I guess (all firefox, and epiphany---didnt' try galeon). You say it works as root. This is a stretch but it's wicked easy and should be tried: try killing your profile. it's as easy as renaming .mozilla so firefox creates a new one next boot. If it's still broken it only wasted a minute, and if it works you're not banging your head needlessly and later on. just re-emerge dbus and/or revdep-rebuilt should be enough. Or that 'preserved-libs' stuff. snip Thank you for the advice, Alan Davis HTH -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] firefox et al. crash when attaching file in gmail --- dbus?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan E. Davis wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WRT emerge -e world I had a few problems where glibc wouldn't build and tracking down the cause of that fixed my other problems. Could be coincidence, could be related. I rebuilt the toolchain once or twice to get glib going again, recompiled and my problems were solved. Do you mind to explain a little more? How would I go about this? I have a few packages that won't build, and glib is one. Over and over. gtkmm is another. There is an upstream gtkmm that is said to solve that issue, but I haven't gotten the courage to bump an ebuild to a new version. How would one rebuild the toolchain? You say it works as root. This is a stretch but it's wicked easy and should be tried: try killing your profile. it's as easy as renaming .mozilla so firefox creates a new one next boot. If it's still broken it only wasted a minute, and if it works you're not banging your head needlessly and later on. I have tried it as three different users, and have moved .mozilla, used firefox2, firefox3, firefox3-bin, epiphany. The same thing happens. Moving .mozilla has no effect.hem My system has been riddled with these issues of permissions and (I assume) dbus and/or hal issues, since when. The livecd was a mess: took several passes even to get a working, booting system. It's getting better. Thank you, Alan Toolchain refers to glibc, gcc, and binutils. Try running emerge glibc gcc binutils Portage will put them in the correct order. - -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiNoHAACgkQdheOldgSlQhhIACfetPG4fMAMFh9fvFGIyjNDErl J7sAni70XXClPwYsz+Fn6k6R0zMUxjmP =IrWG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Waiting for uevents to be processed...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Budd, Tracy wrote: This step in the bootup seems to take a very long time. Any suggestions on how to speed this up or where to look if there might be some problem? Thanks, -Tracy I too had that problem. I deleted 70-persistent-rules for another reason and rebooted which regenerated it. Problem gone. Just make sure you make a backup of it before you reboot. - -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiNol0ACgkQdheOldgSlQg8JwCfYdwfzuQHIAPYrD4F6Q+nW4DX S5EAn1LWNPg/HTiRjmMJZZPZiboJYfmm =zaaU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Waiting for uevents to be processed...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Budd, Tracy wrote: -Original Message- From: Eric Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:42 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Waiting for uevents to be processed... Budd, Tracy wrote: This step in the bootup seems to take a very long time. Any suggestions on how to speed this up or where to look if there might be some problem? Thanks, -Tracy I too had that problem. I deleted 70-persistent-rules for another reason and rebooted which regenerated it. Problem gone. Just make sure you make a backup of it before you reboot. I don't understand what you did you fix it. How would I delete 70-persistent-rules? Make a backup of /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent*.rules (I moved them to my home drive) delete 70-persistent*.rules (accomplished by move) reboot If they don't regenerate you can copy them back. then I'd re-emerge udev. - -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiNt54ACgkQdheOldgSlQjYzQCffvYhidkrr014xFaIo3ih7DrA p20AoPgl3A33M/2PgQ1HLNdTKPdWTiHR =fWuQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] firefox et al. crash when attaching file in gmail --- dbus?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan E. Davis wrote: I have found a script called emwrap.sh The forum thread attached to that script makes it clear it is important to compile the few core TC files twice before emerge -e system. Then do that twice. Then emerce -e world. Wow. The script is supposed to shorten the overall time, by not recompiling TC and system when compiling the rest of the world. It seems logical. I also found some inconsistencies in my USE flags, so it's back to square one. I hope this works. (I am trying the script). Thank you very much. Alan On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:39 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Montag, 28. Juli 2008, Alan E. Davis wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Montag, 28. Juli 2008, Andrey Falko wrote: To eliminate the first factor do: emerge -e world. no. Just no. For what it's worth, I started emerge -e system quite some time ago. It stops about 1/2 way through on glib. Apparently this is common. I started it up again as emerge -e system --skipfirst. How bad of an idea was that? I think about 200 out of about 350 pkgs have been rebuilt. I'll halt this and rebuild dbus again. Etc/ The second factor can be eliminated by downgrading to firefox2. If it is a firefox3 problem then the bug report would go to firefox developers. It does affect firefox 2 also. All users except root. All gecko browsers, I guess (all firefox, and epiphany---didnt' try galeon). just re-emerge dbus and/or revdep-rebuilt should be enough. Or that 'preserved-libs' stuff. I don't qet it about preserved-libs. THerefore I haven't done anything about any of the messages. I don't understand the messages, exactly what would happen? Would I be building the same app with the same old lib or with the new lib? I need to find something in the docs, but haven't seen anything yet. http://r0bertz.blogspot.com/2008/06/portage-22-preserve-libs-features.html the problem with it (a friend run into it - maybe the have fixed it in the meantime)if you do an emerge -e system/world while the old stuff is still there, some apps and libs will link against the old stuff. Thus the whole exercise will be a waste of time and energy. Please don't top post, it makes it very hard to follow the flow of the list. Thanks! Let us know how that turns out with the script. Also, where did you find it? - -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiNxgAACgkQdheOldgSlQgu3gCfebbzOlso/9v1CGAO1+Y0nKNP I+EAoJOqQwLppIJXYKOwAZSDJW1AvUoO =/Uy6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] OT Calenders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James wrote: Hello, I currently use Korganizer. I was wondering if there is a way to enhance the calender with know public holidays. For example, say I wan to get the Holidays for the USA, Canada and Jamaica onto my KOrganizer? If not does any other calender/organizer system have prebuilt addons for things such as holidays? James M$ Outlook has a file although I called Outlook.hol located in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office11\1033 with dates for holidays. The format is a little odd but you should be able to do something with it. Also, I'm pretty sure they have a new one on the net as Outlook 2003 just ran out of holidays as of 2008 so they added to the file to extend (and keep people using outlook). - -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiHO8MACgkQdheOldgSlQguYwCg6gqKUXfKTT5Ja1ImNIYXw9yf SloAoO5AQeITOuS9PpR4EMbrvZJPpc/8 =QSex -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is the gimmick to run tightvnc from windows to gentoo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Harry Putnam wrote: Josh Cepek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harry Putnam wrote: David Blamire-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did this a while back and I got it working by tunnelling via SSH (using putty on windows). But I can't remember the exact details off the top of my head. It may be worth googling that set-up. I seem to remember thinking it felt like a kludge and I can't quite remember why I ended up doing it, but I do remember that it worked. Well at least that sounds promising. I did see mention of that in some of my google searches but I wondered, If I had to use ssh, why wouldn't I just pull the X session on linux across with ssh alone. And forget about VNC. Session persistence. [1] With VNC I can create a full desktop session (I use Fluxbox because it's lightweight) and connect to it as needed from any system with network access. This is great for my IM app. I lock my firewall rules down to allow VNC only from localhost and ssh tunnel all my connections (even on the LAN) because VNC's auth scheme is dreadfully insecure. [...] I had expected to be able to connect to the running X desktop but apparently that isn't going to happen. In other words I cannot view the running desktop from a remote machine but am forced to view a new or different desktop where none of the things I have running on :0 are available. I'm pretty sure x11vnc will do that. I do know there's a vnc server that will let you grab your current xsession and I think that's the one. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong. HTH - -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiF6gkACgkQdheOldgSlQj16ACgmRTVt7cN94VyUje1DHOfEYCm L68AoMHMGLjy2LaWp2O7I8CjVykqu69e =WtZp -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] 20008 install problem: Could not find the root block device in .
Jarry wrote: Hi, I just downloaded install-amd64-minimal-2008.0.iso, burned it, and tried to bootinstall. But during boot-up, a message comes: Determining root device... !! Could not find the root block device in . Please specify another value or: press Enter for the same, type shell for a shell, or q to skip... root block device() :: _ What am I supposed to do??? It is a common pc, with Asus mobo (nForce4 chipset), 2x sata-disk, 1x sata-dvd, nvidia graphics. Everything correctly detected in bios and during boot-up. On the same computer, I could install gentoo-2007 last year, but unfortunatelly disk has died, so I had to replace it and install again... Jarry If the 2007 cd worked then use that one. It doesn't matter what cd you start from, only that you get started. For that matter (as people always say) you can boot off of knoppix or the lfs (linux from scratch) disk. The only thing the cd does for you is provide a working linux environment that you can chroot from to install gentoo. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 20008 install problem: Could not find the root block device in .
Dale wrote: Eric Martin wrote: Jarry wrote: Hi, I just downloaded install-amd64-minimal-2008.0.iso, burned it, and tried to bootinstall. But during boot-up, a message comes: Determining root device... !! Could not find the root block device in . Please specify another value or: press Enter for the same, type shell for a shell, or q to skip... root block device() :: _ What am I supposed to do??? It is a common pc, with Asus mobo (nForce4 chipset), 2x sata-disk, 1x sata-dvd, nvidia graphics. Everything correctly detected in bios and during boot-up. On the same computer, I could install gentoo-2007 last year, but unfortunatelly disk has died, so I had to replace it and install again... Jarry If the 2007 cd worked then use that one. It doesn't matter what cd you start from, only that you get started. For that matter (as people always say) you can boot off of knoppix or the lfs (linux from scratch) disk. The only thing the cd does for you is provide a working linux environment that you can chroot from to install gentoo. Of course, make sure you get the tarballs off the internet if you use a CD that old. If you use the tarballs off the CD, you will have a lot of upgrades to do and it could be . . . messy. Yeah, thanks for mentioning getting the new tarballs. I always download the newest ones so I just assume everybody else does.
Re: [gentoo-user] Good Library Management software
Stroller wrote: On 14 Jul 2008, at 13:06, CJoeB wrote: Eric Martin wrote: Before I recreated the wheel, does anybody know of any good library management software (preferably in portage)? My wife and I are having a hard time keeping track of what books we have, and what books we are lending out to people so I figured this would be a good way to keep track. Since it's for personal use it doesn't have to be anything big. Preferably backended by MySQL as I already have a server running for MythTV and Amarok. I did a few eix searches for portage and came up empty handed, and sourceforge.net has a ton of stuff but I was wondering what other people use. Have you heard of Tellico. It's a collection manager that can be used for books, music, video ... whatever. It allows you to enter the name of the book, a graphic if you have one, rate the book and indicate whether or not it's a gift, how much you paid for it and if you have lent it out. It *is* in Portage. Some information: http://periapsis.org/tellico/ The screenshots of this look really nice, however to me this seems like a really odd motivation for writing a program: I started developing it when I couldn't find a personal database program for KDE which didn't using a SQL backend. What's wrong with an SQL backend that needs you to re-invent the wheel? I'm not saying there's a better collection manager out there, or that the author's in the wrong for doing it the way he has. But it just seems a little odd, and I'd love for him to explain his reasons more fully. Stroller. Agreed. Before I found anything that totally suited my needs I was going to go LAMP all the way. Why reinvent the wheel is one of the greatest questions of all. -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Good Library Management software
Dirk Uys wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The screenshots of this look really nice, however to me this seems like a really odd motivation for writing a program: I started developing it when I couldn't find a personal database program for KDE which didn't using a SQL backend. What's wrong with an SQL backend that needs you to re-invent the wheel? I'm not saying there's a better collection manager out there, or that the author's in the wrong for doing it the way he has. But it just seems a little odd, and I'd love for him to explain his reasons more fully. Stroller. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list I personally have a problem running a SQL server just so that some app that I use every now and then can store its data. I don't print that often, so why would I have the CUPS daemon running 24/7 when I print a page once every two weeks? Other than that there is also the added complexity to the installation. You have to create a user in the database, create the database and grant the user all the needed permission to that specific database. And what if one app prefers mySQL and another one postgreSQL? Now I need to run two database servers that will be quite capable to fill the data needs of two small businesses just because I want to use a music player and a library utility for my ~50 books laying around. While I agree with most of what you say, I agree the most with this. Personally I run a MySQL server for school, Amarok, Krecipes, Mythtv and whatever I'm playing with. The app should at least give you the option to use somethings else like SQLlite. Definitely a plus of Amarok, lets you choose what backend you want to use (including sqllite) But, that is just my viewpoint and I felt like I had to defend the developers motivation. Regards Dirk -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Good Library Management software
CJoeB wrote: Eric Martin wrote: Before I recreated the wheel, does anybody know of any good library management software (preferably in portage)? My wife and I are having a hard time keeping track of what books we have, and what books we are lending out to people so I figured this would be a good way to keep track. Since it's for personal use it doesn't have to be anything big. Preferably backended by MySQL as I already have a server running for MythTV and Amarok. I did a few eix searches for portage and came up empty handed, and sourceforge.net has a ton of stuff but I was wondering what other people use. Have you heard of Tellico. It's a collection manager that can be used for books, music, video ... whatever. It allows you to enter the name of the book, a graphic if you have one, rate the book and indicate whether or not it's a gift, how much you paid for it and if you have lent it out. It *is* in Portage. Some information: http://periapsis.org/tellico/ Regards, Colleen Thanks to all who replied! Of course my homework load just doubled so this will have to wait a while before I take on any more projects but such is life. -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Good Library Management software
Before I recreated the wheel, does anybody know of any good library management software (preferably in portage)? My wife and I are having a hard time keeping track of what books we have, and what books we are lending out to people so I figured this would be a good way to keep track. Since it's for personal use it doesn't have to be anything big. Preferably backended by MySQL as I already have a server running for MythTV and Amarok. I did a few eix searches for portage and came up empty handed, and sourceforge.net has a ton of stuff but I was wondering what other people use. Thanks! -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?
Mark Knecht wrote: I wonder if anyone can share how to use the mythdvd module on Gentoo? I've always emerged mythtv with the dvd flag but the mythdvd module isn't emerged. Can't help with that as I'm not in front of my box ATM. It's not a problem for me to emerge it separately but I'm wondering whether it needs to be emerged on only the backend or on every frontend or all machines? Only needs to be emerged on front end machines Once emerged does it just show up as another media option on the frontend? yes, any of those plugins will appear once the frontend has been restarted. Thanks, Mark No prob, HTH -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I wonder if anyone can share how to use the mythdvd module on Gentoo? I've always emerged mythtv with the dvd flag but the mythdvd module isn't emerged. Can't help with that as I'm not in front of my box ATM. It's not a problem for me to emerge it separately but I'm wondering whether it needs to be emerged on only the backend or on every frontend or all machines? Only needs to be emerged on front end machines Once emerged does it just show up as another media option on the frontend? yes, any of those plugins will appear once the frontend has been restarted. Thanks, Mark No prob, HTH -- Eric Martin Eric, Thanks for responding. I tried emerging it on one of my frontends. The ebuild told me to remove it since mythdvd is now included in mythtv itself. I'm running 0.21 if that's different than your setup. Anyway, this implies I should see mythdvd stuff in my frontend already but I don't see anything. Is there some configuration setup work that I have to do to make it visible? Thanks, Mark Wow, I guess I'm due for an upgrade. While I tend to be bleeding edge on most stuff I'm very slow on mythtv upgrades (my wife hates it when it breaks). I'm running .20 and I know .21 is very different. Seeing as I have a different setup I'm stumped ATM. If nobody here can answer your question, consider posting to mythtv-users. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't Decrypt WEP Packets After Upgrade From 2.6.23 to 2.6.25
Drew Tomlinson wrote: Ever since I upgraded my gentoo-sources kernel from 2.6.23 to 2.6.25, I can no longer see packets on my wireless network for any device other than my own. The tcpdump output looks like this: 20:49:32.909144 00:12:bf:2a:2c:76 (oui Unknown) Unknown SSAP 0x10 00:1f:32:5f:fe:06 (oui Unknown) Unknown DSAP 0xc2 Unnumbered, disc, Flags [Final], length 44 20:49:32.912775 00:12:bf:2a:2c:76 (oui Unknown) Unknown SSAP 0x10 00:1f:32:5f:fe:06 (oui Unknown) Unknown DSAP 0xc2 Information, send seq 42, rcv seq 0, Flags [Response], length 204 20:49:32.916874 00:12:bf:2a:2c:76 (oui Unknown) Unknown SSAP 0x10 00:1f:32:5f:fe:06 (oui Unknown) Unknown DSAP 0xc2 Supervisory, Receiver not Ready, rcv seq 0, Flags [Response], length 169 20:49:32.976738 00:12:bf:2a:2c:76 (oui Unknown) Unknown SSAP 0x10 00:1f:32:5f:fe:06 (oui Unknown) Unknown DSAP 0xc2 Information, send seq 43, rcv seq 0, Flags [Response], length 64 20:49:33.047570 00:12:bf:2a:2c:76 (oui Unknown) 00:1f:32:5f:fe:06 (oui Unknown), ethertype Unknown (0x05ec), length 1530: 0x: c211 5700 c393 1b7b 838f 366c 27c5 f97a ..W{..6l'..z 0x0010: 5111 7d1a 1e33 bebd a432 ff30 5a35 e0ad Q.}..3...2.0Z5.. 0x0020: ba16 2b31 f1e9 d905 5967 f333 d3a1 4ba3 ..+1Yg.3..K. 0x0030: 1e32 0f18 fcc2 I've Googled for an answer and think that my problem is that I am unable to decrypt WEP packets for any device other than my own. This is a simple 64 bit WEP network in my home. Unfortunately I did not find anything that applied to my situation. One thing different about my new kernel config is that because I have a Broadcom card, I moved to the new b43 driver instead of the old b43_legacy driver. I am using version 4 firmware however I had the same problem with version 3 firmware. I was hoping that would fix it but no luck. I am also using the new MAC80211 stack instead of the older IEEE80211 stack. I don't have much help to offer than go with WPA over WEP (especially WEP64). A guy at my LUG gave a presentation on hacking WEP and did it in under 1 minute. I went home that night and got WPA to work. Any ideas on what I have done wrong? Yes, turning on wep vs WPA ;) Thanks, Drew Sorry the only answer is do it totally differently but nobody else replied so I figured I'd chime in. -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list and PGP/MIME
Wolf Canis wrote: Hello all, it seems that sometimes mails of mine doesn't go to the list. :-( I had this problem just a couple of hours ago. I send a reply to the thread Need help with a regex but the mail doesn't reach the list. I looked in the archive and it doesn't reach there too. These mail was send with PGP/MIME. I send this message at 6:03 PM CET. At 10:13 PM CET I send the mail again but this time without PGP/MIME - and this time the mail reached the list. =-0 Now I'm wondering whether it could be that the list server has problems with those mails or perhaps those mails are simply blocked. Is there a problem with signed messages? Thanks in advance. W. Canis Sending w/PGP/MIME, email me off list if you get this. I'll also send one w/pgp not mime encoded -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list and PGP/MIME
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wolf Canis wrote: | Hello all, | | it seems that sometimes mails of mine doesn't | go to the list. :-( | | I had this problem just a couple of hours ago. I | send a reply to the thread Need help with a regex | but the mail doesn't reach the list. I looked in | the archive and it doesn't reach there too. These | mail was send with PGP/MIME. I send this message at | 6:03 PM CET. | At 10:13 PM CET I send the mail again but this time | without PGP/MIME - and this time the mail reached the | list. =-0 | | Now I'm wondering whether it could be that the | list server has problems with those mails or perhaps | those mails are simply blocked. | | Is there a problem with signed messages? | | Thanks in advance. | | W. Canis | | PS: Send at 11:12 PM CET without PGP/MIME This one isn't sent as pgp/mime - -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIOIvedheOldgSlQgRAgCVAJ976+MXAQLryssn3ESsstbZKehuvACdGf8+ A+bc7Eku4Tv9PPnJrZvNcZg= =4PC8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh-add: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Schmarck wrote: Hello. Since this morning, I find that I can no longer add SSH keys to the ssh key agent. I'm using Gnome 2.22, so I think seahorse would be used instead. --($:~)-- ssh-add Could not open a connection to your authentication agent. No good :( Per man ssh-add(1): The authentication agent must be running and the SSH_AUTH_SOCK environ‐ ment variable must contain the name of its socket for ssh-add to work. --($:~)-- echo $SSH_AUTH_SOCK /tmp/keyring-L12w0n/ssh --($:~)-- ps awux | grep keyri mike 8073 0.0 0.2 16216 2632 ?SL 07:18 0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --foreground --components=keyring --($:~)-- ps awux | grep seah mike 6631 0.0 1.8 36876 16776 ?Ss 07:14 0:00 /usr/bin/seahorse-agent --execute gnome-session snip Anyone else having problems with ssh-add? Best regards, Michael Is ssh-agent running? What does ps -aux | grep ssh show? Also, env | grep SSH ought to show a bunch of ssh-agent stuff. - -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIBeF6aiVxdKlBO58RAgyVAJ4rQq1pBayt0HS5Q6u094EZevYQuACeKnwv AuIOYq5kJIrtQtjRFanImC8= =9FkO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ssh-add: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Schmarck wrote: | Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Michael Schmarck wrote: | Hello. | | Since this morning, I find that I can no longer add SSH keys to the | ssh key agent. I'm using Gnome 2.22, so I think seahorse would be | used instead. | [...] | Is ssh-agent running? What does | | No, it's not. Gnome's seahorse offers that functionality. | | env | grep SSH | | ought to show a bunch of ssh-agent stuff. | | Nothing interesting. :( | | --($:/dev/shm)-- env | grep SSH | SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-L12w0n/ssh | SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/gtk2-ssh-askpass | | Michael | of course I ran eix seahorse *after* hitting reply. Teaches me not to reply to a message 30 seconds after getting out of bed. Ok, now onto helpful stuff... does /tmp/keyring-L12w0n/ssh exist? Does any other sort of ssh-agent / seahorse stuff exist in /tmp? When running ssh-agent, I get a pipe called /tmp/ssh-[a-zA-Z0-9]/agent.$pid. After that I'm out of ideas. - -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIBgSidheOldgSlQgRAtZXAKCGtlu3b873ZsImjkjijHULPa9j1gCcDpBO +iuXZ9ZV1TP83z1a09OmbJw= =4iUY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overclocked CPU killed motherboard and CD?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roy Wright wrote: | Grant wrote: | An oc'ed cpu needs a lot more powergenerates a lot more heat. Both can damage | the CPU AND the mobo (too much power might fry a regulator, or cook a cap). | Or it might overload the PSU - and then everything is possible. A damaged | mobo or psu can take a lot of stuff with it to hell. | | I hope you learnt your lesson: Overclocking is evil | I'll never overclock again. I'm realizing how much more important | reliability is compared to performance and low cost. | | - Grant | | That's been my thoughts until recently. I just built a system using a | Q9300 (45nm quad core) and decided to give OC a try. Bumped the clock | from 333MHz to 400MHz causing the CPU freq to increase from 2.5MHz to | 3.0MHz. DDR2-800 memory not OC'ed. Core temps under 4 core 100% load | using burnP5 only increased from 71C to 73C. This was with stock Intel | heat sink/fan/thermal paste (just the way Intel wants it). I just | ordered a XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 to lower these. | | IMO, it looks like the Intel 45nm processors have some easy OC headroom. | | YMMV. | | Have fun, | Roy This may be untrue, but from what I've see that's the way it goes w/OC'ing; Intels have room to be overclocked and AMDs don't. The OP overclocked an AMD processor which I've always heard is a bad idea. Just my $0.02 - -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIBjOCdheOldgSlQgRAhVnAJ96V33uu7gE82cl5/E8kL1sZ/Qu2gCg3DU9 ELPLMwkj3odxE6yzRLU/3ZA= =EPgz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ssh-add: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Schmarck wrote: | Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | | of course I ran eix seahorse *after* hitting reply. Teaches me not to | reply to a message 30 seconds after getting out of bed. Ok, now onto | helpful stuff... does /tmp/keyring-L12w0n/ssh exist? | | Yes. HOWEVER: | | --($:~)-- sudo lsof | grep -i tmp/keyring | lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/mike/.gvfs | Output information may be incomplete. | gnome-key 8073 mike 3u unix 0xe2fd51c0 16680 /tmp/keyring-TEj1nP/socket | gnome-key 8073 mike 13u unix 0xe2e8ee00 16783 /tmp/keyring-TEj1nP/socket | | That's strange - there's nothing listening on /tmp/keyring-L12w0n and | for sure not on the ssh named pipe in that directroy. | | Does any other | sort of ssh-agent / seahorse stuff exist in /tmp? | | Yes. | | --($:~)-- ls -la /tmp/keyring-* /tmp/seahorse-BnTrHX/ | /tmp/keyring-L12w0n: | insgesamt 41 | drwx-- 2 mike users 1024 16. Apr 07:14 . | drwxrwxrwt 20 root root 39936 16. Apr 15:50 .. | srwxr-xr-x 1 mike users 0 16. Apr 07:14 socket | srwxr-xr-x 1 mike users 0 16. Apr 07:14 socket.pkcs11 | srwxr-xr-x 1 mike users 0 16. Apr 07:14 ssh | | /tmp/keyring-TEj1nP: | insgesamt 41 | drwx-- 2 mike users 1024 16. Apr 07:18 . | drwxrwxrwt 20 root root 39936 16. Apr 15:50 .. | srwxr-xr-x 1 mike users 0 16. Apr 07:18 socket | | /tmp/seahorse-BnTrHX/: | insgesamt 41 | drwx-- 2 mike users 1024 16. Apr 07:14 . | drwxrwxrwt 20 root root 39936 16. Apr 15:50 .. | srw--- 1 mike users 0 16. Apr 07:14 S.gpg-agent | | When running | ssh-agent, I get a pipe called /tmp/ssh-[a-zA-Z0-9]/agent.$pid. After | that I'm out of ideas. | | So there are two that are out of ideas. | | It seems there are two strange things: | | - ssh agent env.var is pointing to the wrong directory. | - nothings reading from the ssh pipe in the wrong directory. | | Strange, isn't it? | | BTW: The lsof command I ran was correct, wasn't it? I'd expect | that it would've shown a command which had /tmp/keyring/L12w0n/ssh | open. | | Michael | Ok, so looking at your original post, gvfs, gnome-vfs, and seahorse were upgraded. I'm not much of a gnome guy but I do know that apps do all sorts of strange stuff if I upgrade deps and don't restart them (forget). When's the last time you restarted gnome / your box? I know it's not the the NIX way to reboot when you can't fix it (as it usually doesn't fix the problem) but I'm running out of ideas - -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIBjc7dheOldgSlQgRAoP4AJ9A340E6/jbt2w+LgtDVDMIbNJH4ACfV+cd 4BKOpp7IuBzTEjggzANSInc= =bM0n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown] another dead email address
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - Original Message Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:39:13 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The original message was received at 2008-04-16 12:35:26 -0500 from postoffice.(null) [10.0.0.1] ~ - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ -Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to postoffice.(null).: | RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown Has anybody else who recently posted to the list gotten an email bounce for a [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIBj37dheOldgSlQgRAnYWAKC2q063tIRUIGfjde6/QIRjc+bTOwCfab64 +rjhY0wkKwU3xsfVwkKjWu0= =auT/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown] another dead email address
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Uwe Thiem wrote: | On Wednesday 16 April 2008, Eric Martin wrote: | Has anybody else who recently posted to the list gotten an email | bounce for a [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Nope but since it is an unknown or illegal alias rather than | an unknown user, I'd venture the guess it's a temporary | configuration error. Before taking drastic measures like kicking him | off the list, I'd advise to wait a day or two. They might get it | fixed. | | Uwe | (puts down tar and feathers) Nobody said anything about drastic measures ;) - -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIBkdvdheOldgSlQgRAsnnAJ0cgIvQBxaDO+0kl7BeP0pcHHCG/gCfSFFc 9e6d7G5FW1pvrH1XLF0gQBA= =3LF5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: ssh-add: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Schmarck wrote: | Hello. | | · Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | | Ok, so looking at your original post, gvfs, gnome-vfs, and seahorse were | upgraded. | | Yes. | | I'm not much of a gnome guy but I do know that apps do all | sorts of strange stuff if I upgrade deps and don't restart them | (forget). When's the last time you restarted gnome / your box? | | This morning. Yesterday, I upgraded stuff and then shut down my | machine. This morning I booted the machine. | | I know | it's not the the NIX way to reboot when you can't fix it (as it usually | doesn't fix the problem) but I'm running out of ideas | | You're right - didn't fix it :) | | It seems to me, as if some daemon or whatnot is not started. | | It would be interesting for me, if any other Gnome users have | this problem as well. If not, it would be interesting to see | what daemons you've got running. The lsof output would be | very interesting! | | Michael Schmarck I run ssh-agent by hand on occasion. Other than that I don't run any keyring stuff so I'm afraid I can't be of much more help. - -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIBk57dheOldgSlQgRAvA0AJ9TmMP69Uz9WRXxthWOJi+0MrHg8QCffF5S 0zFW7XOuwj9dECJ7f6HF30Y= =Rwy6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo AMD64, games freeze!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Abraham Gyorgy wrote: 2008/4/11, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Freitag, 11. April 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: I use revdep-rebuild everytime I upgrade my system. (emerge --sync emerge -uD world revdep-rebuild etc-update). I think revdep-rebuild know what libs are broken. revdep rebuild does not see all brokeness. ldd the games and rebuilt all libs that are loaded. Thanks. Could you give me some instructions (or howto links anything) on how to ldd an installed package? Thanks. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ldd /bin/bash linux-gate.so.1 = (0xe000) libncurses.so.5 = /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0xb7f66000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7f62000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7e32000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7fbb000) Also, please don't top-post. It makes it really hard to keep up with the conversation. Thanks! - -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIAGu6dheOldgSlQgRAhCuAKCxeyy3S2P9tJHPrKbBBcEHn5sChACgjIEB aADBXdKvqpuOWraPhSi8Mew= =sVhi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clone a running gentoo machine onto another machine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Bothwick wrote: | Rsync may work, or it may complain that files have changed between | building the list and copying them and you'd need to use -x to do the | same as -l with tar. Either way, shut down as many services as possible | during the copy, particularly anything that uses databases. If you are using lvm you could also make a snapshot of your running system (after stopping databases etc) and then start the services and just grab stuff off of the snapshot. That way you're getting a snapshot in time as opposed to a very large window of data. - -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH8pKxdheOldgSlQgRAhO3AJ9+rZB8E/DSZ4vGe0+I1MdXf9IaYgCgqRNm /W8YU6zPMbuMjH5EMo9Rc28= =AvYH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joseph wrote: | On 03/31/08 09:26, Grant wrote: | My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes | and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there | is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How | do you troubleshoot something like this? | | - Grant | | Start with ls_sensors and monitor CPU and motherboard temp. +1 to that. I had a laptop that was doing the exact same thing. I installed lm_sensors and saw that at rest my temp was generally 40C (that's with powersave enabled). When I compiled the temp would go up to 75C...I think the highest I ever got it was 77C.* A /little/ over 40 is too hot... *For the Americans (like me) the easy way for C - F is double it, subtract 10% and add 32. So the temps would be 104F, 167F and 171F. - -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH8phDdheOldgSlQgRAuKcAKDcYnv7PuepF5no3Z74on/6wYUfIACgvWXz ETwrpz+31+rq0tB4UqSWCMY= =0div -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X crashes on Suspend to Disk ( hibernate )
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Kahle wrote: | Hi, | | for a couple of days now, no idea how it started, my X-Server crashes | when coming back from suspend to disk. I use kernel 2.6.25-rc6, | xorg-server 1.4.0.90 and coming back from suspend to ram works | perfectly. There is absolutely nothing in the logs. Just when the | applications awake from sleep, they all report broken pipes and find | X-Server is gone. | X.org.log shows nothing. | | any ideas where to start investigaion? Are you using anything on top of X? is your swap file = RAM? I don't know if it will even let you suspend if that's not the case but I'll ask anyway. Does /var/log/messages and/or dmesg show anything? - -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH8p4OdheOldgSlQgRAuPqAKDIWzVVuaIMMfsm940Ar5nK7crDLACgnVK1 tzGTW/F5Cdj9rlQy5wnAXPw= =19TL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] defect management block device
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 24 March 2008, Enrico Weigelt wrote: does anyone know an (virtual) block device which can do automatic defect management (if the underlying disks have badblocks) ? My idea goes like this: * one or more devices are assigned to one block device * a bunch of spare blocks are reserved for defect management (so the device looks smaller than the sum of assigned disks) * if an badblock is detected, it's automatically remapped to an spare block In fact, just what drive-internal defect manangement does, but at OS / driver level. I don't see the point, unless you are dealing with drives that do not have defect management. What makes you think you can accomplish this result better than the firmware on the drive? It seems to me that if the drive firmware missed the opportunity to relocate the bad block, then your window of opportunity to do it in your code has long since passed. IOW, the OS code cannot possibly ever achieve it's design result. Just a thought, maybe you know some aspect of disks that I don't and can see where this would be useful. From where I sit, I can;t see any such use-case. While I see what Alan is saying, I'm pretty sure LVM does it. Device Drivers - Multiple Devices Driver Support - Bad Block Relocation Device Target. I've never played with it but I assume there's a lot of good reading on it. -- HTH, Eric -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OFF TOPIC] PGP Messages Email clients
Matt Nordhoff wrote: Chris Brennan wrote: Matt Nordhoff wrote: | Yeah, yours is the only one I'm having trouble with. :-P | | Can't find it on any of the key servers I've tried. | | (Note: Im kind of a PGP newbie. I didn't look very hard.) mmm then I will regenerate my key and resubmit it later tonight ... Where did you submit it to? I mostly tried subkeys.pgp.net. Just checked today on subkeys.pgp.net and I can't get it. From my understanding most of the servers sync so if you put it on one it's out there. I think my pgp signature blocks are going out as signature.asc which is good for most people. I'm using enigmail for thunderbird which is great. -- Eric -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Root shell terminates after first keystroke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim wrote: Tonight, for no apparent reason, a problem has started cropping up when I 'sudo su'. The root shell will start up fine, but after the first time I hit a key, the shell terminates - apparently normally. A sample try looks like this (I begin to type emerge, with little success): [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo su wozniak tim # eexit [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ This occurs no matter how long I wait before hitting a key. Using 'su' without the preceding 'sudo' will let me into a normal root shell without the problem occurring. The problem also occurs only in Konsole, not at a tty. I should mention, based on this, that I'm running KDE4. How might I go about fixing this? Dumb question, why are you exec'ing /sudo su/? Why not just /su/ or /su - -/ or /sudo/ ? - -- ~eric PGP: D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH5IspaiVxdKlBO58RAgauAJ9DzETIQaEU96MScKipdcylhwXdxQCfTzqI 78dioXd2b/IKyswemBhQlT8= =BC8T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge can not work !
Matthias Guede wrote: Make sure your working directory is in the path: PATH=${PATH}:./ ./python /usr/bin/emerge python !!Big security hole!! ./ is purposely left out of the path so people can't sneak fake programs in there. ~eric -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list