Re: [gentoo-user] Update gentoo from live usb?

2022-01-30 Thread Michael Jones
On Sun, Jan 30, 2022, 01:36 Andreas Fink wrote: > Hello, > > I have a couple of systems that I do not update regularily (some not > even for years). But then sometimes I feel, hey I should do an update. > I have one master build server which builds packages and keeps them as > binary packages,

Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for NAS appliance?

2021-11-12 Thread Michael Jones
On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 11:31 AM Laurence Perkins wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Peter Humphrey > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 12:19 AM > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for NAS appliance? > > > > On Thursday, 11 November

[gentoo-user] Can't attach file to bug on bugs.gentoo.org

2021-09-13 Thread Michael Jones
Just me? Or something wrong? Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator at webmas...@gentoo.org to inform them of the time this error occurred, and the actions you performed

Re: [gentoo-user] an efficient idea for an alternative portage synchronisation

2021-06-18 Thread Michael Jones
On Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 07:10 caveman رَجُلُ الْكَهْفِ 穴居人 < toraboracave...@protonmail.com> wrote: > tl;dr - i'm suggesting a new file syncing protocol > for portage syncing. details of this one is in > section 2. > > > 1. background > - > rsync needs to read all files in order to

Re: [gentoo-user] I am thinking of buying Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB with 7 or 10 inch touch screen display in June 2021

2021-05-09 Thread Michael Jones
On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 4:29 PM Nils Freydank wrote: > The Raspberry Pi image (stage3) seems to be unmaintained so far: > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi#gentoo-on-rpi3-64bit > There's a maintained image for 64bit raspberry pi's with this project: https://github.com/GenPi64

Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback is back again!

2021-04-06 Thread Michael Jones
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 4:54 AM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Michael. > > On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 18:08:58 -0500, Michael Jones wrote: > > [ ] > > > Without looking at the patch itself: > > > Have you considered something like kmscon as a userland alte

Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback is back again!

2021-04-05 Thread Michael Jones
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021, 13:13 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Wol. > > On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 18:44:15 +0100, antlists wrote: > > On 05/04/2021 18:12, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > Bug reports and other comments are welcome, of course. > > > > > > If anybody would like the corresponding patch which

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on rpi

2021-02-08 Thread Michael Jones
Help wanted https://github.com/GenPi64/Build.Dist On Mon, Feb 8, 2021, 09:36 Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > I have a Pi 400, on which I'd like to install Gentoo if I can. I've tried > a > few approaches so far, but each one has fallen foul of some obstacle. For > instance, today I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

2021-02-04 Thread Michael Jones
Use the plex overlay. It's updated regularly. Faster than the official gentoo repo was. On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 5:56 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2021-02-04, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 15:04:14 -0300, Raphael MD wrote: > > > >> Said that, what could be the effort to turn my

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo as NAS

2021-02-04 Thread Michael Jones
I do this with btrfs instead of zfs. Its no more complicated than any other service configuration. Gentoo doesn't make this harder or easier than any other distribution. On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 12:04 Raphael MD wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm thinking about using Gentoo as a NAS serve. I know

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] rsync rules question

2020-10-14 Thread Michael Jones
On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 2:48 PM antlists wrote: > On 14/10/2020 20:22, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Alternatively, for more instant updates, you could look at > > net-p2p/syncthing. > > Not sure what you use for it, but there are mirrored filesystems that > run over a network. So the two systems

[gentoo-user] Pam configuration for winbind

2020-10-14 Thread Michael Jones
With the recent update to sys-auth/pambase-20201013, i find myself struggling to understand how to adapt the new default configuration to work with winbind. I'm writing to the list for help with this. First, I'll provide my current system-auth, the new system-auth that comes from

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc is being built again??

2020-09-29 Thread Michael Jones
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 12:48 PM n952162 wrote: > 10 weeks ago, I updated my system and it took days to build. I just > started a new update of my system, and it looks like it will take at > least more than a day again ... > > Why is gcc being rebuilt after 10 weeks, for example? > > Need more

Re: [gentoo-user] Raspberry Pi with 8GB

2020-06-08 Thread Michael Jones
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 8:40 PM james wrote: > Gentoo Folks, > > Has anyone ported gentoo to the newest Raspberry Pi > with 8 gig of ram? > > > https://www.admin-magazine.com/News/Raspberry-Pi-with-8GB-of-RAM-Now-Available > > If so, I'd be curious as to your performance and using it as a >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo RPi boot to ram or read-only FS?

2020-05-26 Thread Michael Jones
On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 1:27 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 26 May 2020 19:14:18 +0100, antlists wrote: > > > > That's the Gentoo version that I'm using. But I'm looking for a way > > > to make it bullet-proof to having the plug pulled. > > > > Don't use an SD card? Seriously, pulling the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo RPi boot to ram or read-only FS?

2020-05-26 Thread Michael Jones
On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 12:16 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2020-05-26, Frank Tarczynski wrote: > > > I'm building a video conference appliance using a Raspberry Pi 4 for > > my parents. > > Sorry, no advice running Gentoo on RPi. I run OSMC/Kodi on an older > RPi, and it works fine, but I

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of unwanted languages (Was: Re: gimp help not available, even with USE doc)

2020-05-04 Thread Michael Jones
On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:31 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 4 May 2020 15:08:12 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > Here are mine for comparison: > > # grep -E '^(LANG|LC_|L10)' /etc/portage/make.conf > L10N="en-GB en" > LANG="en_GB.UTF-8" > LANGUAGE="en_GB.UTF-8" > > I can't find any

Re: [gentoo-user] prevent users from shutting down while other users logged in

2020-04-29 Thread Michael Jones
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:19 AM Raffaele BELARDI wrote: > I often have the kids working on my main ~amd64 PC (XFCE, OpenRC, > -consolekit) while I ssh into it doing some maintenance from an old PC. > Often they shut it down without telling me first, so I loose part of my > stuff. Is there a way

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

2020-04-23 Thread Michael Jones
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:21 PM Steven Lembark wrote: > > Q: You have Docker (or any other lxc) running on something local? > > We could use my system here as a sandbox. There should be a decent > way to have a "gentoo-qc" image for testing: Just snag the image and > have it "emerge --update" to

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-23 Thread Michael Jones
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 1:15 PM Caveman Al Toraboran < toraboracave...@protonmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 9:34 PM, Michael Orlitzky > wrote: > > > Dependency resolution is indeed a (formally) hard problem. Solving the > > traveling salesman problem is also hard. Solving the

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-22 Thread Michael Jones
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 2:19 PM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 4/22/20 3:15 PM, Michael Jones wrote: > > > > Why would I need to emerge world? Portage knows the full list of > > packages that depend on openssl, transitively. > > > > Unless you're generalizin

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-22 Thread Michael Jones
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:33 PM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 4/22/20 2:24 PM, Michael Jones wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:19 PM Michael Orlitzky > <mailto:m...@gentoo.org>> wrote: > > > > How do you plan to update a

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-22 Thread Michael Jones
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:19 PM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > How do you plan to update all of your programs when there's a security > vulnerability in, say, OpenSSL? > Is there some reason why all packages that depend on OpenSSL, transitively, could not be recompiled?

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-22 Thread Michael Jones
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:47 AM wrote: > C is more widespread, than C++. > Yes, this is true. > C++ is unneededly complex and for such core thing like a portage > C would be better. C code is simpler and robust. More people know it. > More people can send patches. Etc. > I disagree to the

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-22 Thread Michael Jones
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > No-no. C++ is a nightmare. A few people want to use it. > C++ is an extremely widespread language with millions of lines of code written daily world wide. Lots of people want to use it. Just not people who want to write a PMS compliant package

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-22 Thread Michael Jones
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:28 AM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > I won't say this is impossible, but in general it hasn't been true for a > long time in Gentoo. Old libraries are left behind until you rebuild the > things that link against them (that's what emerge @preserved-rebuild > does). When used

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-22 Thread Michael Jones
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:18 AM Alessandro Barbieri < lssndrbarbi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nothing should be statically linked, please stop spreading the disease. > On a source-based distribution, the thing that manages package installations can break itself if it incorrectly installs a library

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

2020-04-22 Thread Michael Jones
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 04:46 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday, 21 April 2020 23:36:21 BST Michael Jones wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Gregory Rudolph wrote: > > > I would also offer up some computing power for that, on VMs, or > physical > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

2020-04-21 Thread Michael Jones
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Gregory Rudolph wrote: > I would also offer up some computing power for that, on VMs, or physical > hardware with different configurations. I'd like to be more involved with > the Gentoo Development community, but time is rarely ever on my side. > > > Best wishes,

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

2020-04-21 Thread Michael Jones
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:27 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > There are some QA/CI tools out there that have substantially improved > the quality of the distro, and most of them have started out as one > dev just creating a tinderbox or whatever and filing bugs when they > see problems. The only real

Re: [gentoo-user] speedup remote portage

2020-02-26 Thread Michael Jones
m Kenworthy wrote: > PORTDIR="/mnt/mfs/portage" > > /mnt/mfs is a moosefs fuse mount > > shared full tree including distfiles, and separate package files for > different hardware groups > > > BillK > > > > On 27/2/20 9:56 am, Michael Jones wrot

Re: [gentoo-user] speedup remote portage

2020-02-26 Thread Michael Jones
When you say you have a remote portage. What do you mean? The actual portage tree, with all the ebuilds? Or something else? On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 18:08 William Kenworthy wrote: > Hi, > > due to space considerations on my laptop I have moved portage onto a > network share (moosfs,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Compiling first and then installing using -K

2020-02-25 Thread Michael Jones
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 23:04 Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > > > > P. S. Starting to wonder if I should copy my current install over and > > start there. I'd assume skipping /home, /proc and /sys would get me > > started. Still, gonna try the stage3 again. Just for giggles. Do all > > this while

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: how can I retain build directories?

2020-02-19 Thread Michael Jones
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 4:00 PM n952162 wrote: > On 2020-02-16 17:34, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Sunday, 16 February 2020 15:40:43 GMT n952162 wrote: > >> On 2020-02-16 16:27, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > >>> On 2/16/20 10:19 AM, n952162 wrote: > Is there an option to inhibit that the build

Re: [gentoo-user] Desktop-no-multilib profile - possible?

2020-02-19 Thread Michael Jones
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 3:21 PM Holger Hoffstätte < hol...@applied-asynchrony.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I will never ever run 32bit software again and would really like to have > a desktop-no-multilib profile, in sync with the regular desktop but simply > without the multilib goop. My server is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Compiling first and then installing using -K

2020-02-18 Thread Michael Jones
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 1:22 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 2:06 PM Nikos Chantziaras > wrote: > > > > It gets worse. The container reconfigured the keyboard shortcuts on the > > host! After booting a container, alt+Fn or alt+left/right on the host > > started switching to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Number of open Bugzilla bugs (Was: Question about gentoo-sources kernel release versions)

2020-02-10 Thread Michael Jones
> > > You might want to take note of the email address for Rich. He is a > developer and has a better understanding of the inner workings of Gentoo. > When he posts about how things work within Gentoo, he does it with > knowledge that most users don't have. > > The thing about Gentoo is this.

Re: [gentoo-user] Number of open Bugzilla bugs (Was: Question about gentoo-sources kernel release versions)

2020-02-10 Thread Michael Jones
On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 8:07 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > You could have jumped through all the required hoops and still had it > ignored. > That's pretty horrible, honestly. Why isn't Gentoo doing better than that? Yes, yes, Gentoo is run by volunteers, so on and so forth. But it's entirely

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about gentoo-sources kernel release versions

2020-02-09 Thread Michael Jones
On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 5:55 PM james wrote: > Sure the many of the wonderful folks that visit gentoo-user would > participate, just a little bit? I would be willing to help. However, if left to my own devices, I would just close anything with no activity for 10 years, and remind the cc list

[gentoo-user] Number of open Bugzilla bugs (Was: Question about gentoo-sources kernel release versions)

2020-02-09 Thread Michael Jones
On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 5:43 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > Bugs get closed all the time. Bugs also get opened and and linger all > the time. I couldn't tell you the ratio, but that is the nature of > things. > > If you don't report an issue, and nobody else is aware of it, I can > pretty much

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about gentoo-sources kernel release versions

2020-02-09 Thread Michael Jones
On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 3:04 PM Michael Jones wrote: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?limit=0=changed > <https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?limit=0=changeddate%2Cbug_status%2Cpriority%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_id=Gentoo%20Linux_format=advanced=---> > > Apparently b

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about gentoo-sources kernel release versions

2020-02-09 Thread Michael Jones
On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 2:25 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 2:34 PM Michael Jones wrote: > > > > Here's an example of how 4.19.97 being stabilized might have exposed > users to functionality breaking bugs: https://bugs.gent was released on > Jan 18t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about gentoo-sources kernel release versions

2020-02-07 Thread Michael Jones
I'll start by saying that I appreciate all the work the Gentoo developers do, and by no means have any animosity for them for this, Here's an example of how 4.19.97 being stabilized might have exposed users to functionality breaking bugs: https://bugs.gentoo.org/706036 Took me several hours to

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

2020-01-07 Thread Michael Jones
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 1:01 AM Wols Lists wrote: > On 06/01/20 19:55, Michael Jones wrote: > > > > As for windows 10 licensing, don't trust me on this blindly, but your > > license should be tied to the hardware fingerprint of the laptop. So > > even installing wi

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

2020-01-06 Thread Michael Jones
I would be extremely surprised if it activated after not having done so within an hour. You can manually trigger activation in the Windows 10 settings menu somewhere, and get an answer immediately. You *do* need to make sure the version of Windows is 100% identical to what was previously

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

2020-01-06 Thread Michael Jones
Asus gaming laptop circa 2008 so hopefully > that works but I've never done it on this machine. > > Cheers, > Mark > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:56 PM Michael Jones wrote: > >> Generally the way I've handled this situation in the past is like so >> (this is

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

2020-01-06 Thread Michael Jones
Generally the way I've handled this situation in the past is like so (this is written from memory, so expect gratuitous problems). On the machine with the drive attached mbuffer -i /dev/mydrive | xz -e -9 | mbuffer -O hostname:port On a machine with storage space mbuffer -I port -o

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading (profiles, too)

2019-05-29 Thread Michael Jones
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 2:46 PM wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently at 4.14.65-gentoo and I understand my cheap hp laptop's > amdgpu could finally get better support if I upgrade to 4.16 or 4.17.1. > Can I just do that, or would it be better (or even possible) to go in > smaller increments? > > Also,

Re: [gentoo-user] VRFs / Jails / Containers

2019-02-02 Thread Michael Jones
systemd-nspawn is also an option, but I don't think that'll work with OpenRC. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 9:56 PM Grant Taylor < gtay...@gentoo.tnetconsulting.net> wrote: > On 2/2/19 7:36 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > LXC containers ?? > > Maybe. > > I just feel like that's more heavy weight than I

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Michael Jones
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:33 PM Jack wrote: > On 2019.01.24 15:17, Michael Jones wrote: > [snip] > > A lot of people run emerge without checking the preliminary console > > output. > But most (I hope) of them understand the possible problems, and are > willin

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Michael Jones
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:04 PM Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:04 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > >> I'm trying to recall but am not sure, is this the same Alan that used to > >> come on here and post this sort of thing when the problem was in the > >> chair not

Re: [gentoo-user] backing up a partition

2018-08-30 Thread Michael Jones
try fsarchiver On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > 180825 Philip Webb wrote: > > Thanks for the replies : > > it looks as if 'tar' mb adequate, but I'll think re it & make a test. > > I used 'tar -a' to copy the contents of the partition to a USB stick, > then copied them