On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 20:29:28 +0100
"Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
> And proposing a Java revolution because the existing team
> does not immediately jubilate at your extensive reform proposals is
> also not necessarily the best idea.
For those that disagree, start overlay java2015 and prove him wr
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 23:50:48 +0100
hasufell wrote:
> Again: you are confusing a specific incident with my proposal of a
> distributed model. I was just bringing it up as an _additional_
> argument why I find the distributed approach more interesting...
> because it makes it easier to regroup and
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:20:01 -0500
Rich Freeman wrote:
> What do you do if somebody blocks progress in your overlay structure?
> You start another one.
Sounds like something that can work, survival of the [insert anything].
> What do you do if somebody blocks progress in the current Gentoo
> p
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 12:56:36 -0500
Rich Freeman wrote:
> I think the real problem is that there aren't many devs who care about
> Java in the first place. That isn't a policy problem - it is a
> manpower problem.
+1
In the past two years, I've committed much to the Java categories. That
grows
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:20:26 -0400
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Tom Wijsman wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300
> > Gevisz wrote:
> >
> > > Are you sure that you need gdm at all?
> >
> > Yes, `startx` doesn't work well in GNOME
on` will work.
It for example needs the *-launch things between exec and gnome-session.
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do anything further.
Hmm, that "no screens found" indicates a problem with the X server I
think; can you look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and/or provide it to us?
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18 seconds.
> snip
> > Wed May 28 14:07:43 2014 >>> net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.2.6
> >merge time: 1 hour, 39 minutes and 57 seconds.
>
> > Rich
>
>
> What syntax did you use to get this information?
$ genlop -t net-libs/webkit-gtk
> curious
un a new core file through gdb.
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about backtracking, try --backtrack=9001 or so;
also, if it still tries to bring in sys-power/upower then you might
have an overlay that attempts to do this (sync and/or contact author).
As a result of the unmerge and mask, it picks upower-pm-utils for you.
> Have a great evening!
You too.
e itself, Gentoo might not
be the right distribution for you as it is all about providing choice.
Compare this to other distributions which make the choices for you;
interesting to note, a lot of those distributions picked systemd,
instead of it being forced Gentoo actually blocks it for you to c
e packages to the
versions that are in the Portage tree; if not, please let me know.
Good luck and thank you in advance.
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e tree, feel free
to let me know; this migration is supposed to go very fluent, so,
removing the overlay from layman should work out well.
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to do for the benefit of making a ton of users happy in the future.
TL;DR: A simple equation: If someone stops development upstream,
someone else needs to start developing to keep that work{,ing}.
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code and get the
people you want to change the rules for to be interested in your work.
> Footnotes
>
> [1] Those who are politically active constantly deal with the more
> politically naive who complain "there isn't really any difference
&g
he overlay to make people switch:
https://github.com/Sabayon/mate-overlay/issues/76
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x27;t happen from one day to
the other; while trying to keep a fork upower-pm-utils alive as long as
it can be kept working given the manpower, kernel API and so on...
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On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:17:21 -0400
Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is from the overlay.
MATE 1.6 is stable in the Portage tree, MATE 1.8 is testing in the
Portage tree; both had their upower dependencies fixed up days ago.
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ions happen sooner
or later in one place or the other. Which becomes visible over time...
The manpower that we have to keep implications away are limited; to
make a change to those implications, one could write code as suggested.
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E
uration for the package and re-compilation for no underlying file
change on disk. This should be avoided and instead can be conveyed to
the user via post install messages if needed."
http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/use-flags
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files/ChangeLog:
01 Jun 2014; Pacho Ramos package.mask:
Unmask Gnome 3.12
Yes, it did; now available in testing arches (eg. ~x86), given it has
just been added it'll take a while before this is stable (eg. x86).
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s "Not listed here?"; then it'll prompt for
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t regardless of whether you have it or not.
(Festival is a Text to Speech engine)
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g or error,
but instead as an input / graphical problem.
Can you try a different version of GNOME? A newer might have fixed it.
If you need instructions on how to switch between specific version,
feel free to let me know. I'll try to figure out the sequence to switch
between users later
cause you shutdown GDM; it might be
more clear if you capture a log where you don't shutdown GDM, as then
the last messages would be much more related to the problem at hand.
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On Sat, 24 May 2014 05:40:37 -0400
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> OK, how do I enable that extension?
Change it from false to true; alternatively, just remove the line
and/or the surrounding section.
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opic seems to suggest it happens in such case:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-977526-start-0.html
Thus can you try enabling that extension?
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On Fri, 23 May 2014 15:50:04 -0400
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Any suggestions appreciated.
Can you provide the log segment from `journalctl -rb`?
(-r puts it in reverse, -b restricts it to the current boot)
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RS= "/.../" matches paragraphs; as
the record separator is empty, it takes the blank lines.
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olution?
Yes; it allows ~x86 versions, while not disallowing x86 versions.
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ke ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64 ~ppc ~x86"
which might result in something that lists all the stable ones as well.
Negating x86 with - could be a possible solution; however, I wonder if
that's what you want as some packages have only stable versions.
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sk (something like
*/*::funtoo) and then unmask that kernel in /etc/portage/package.unmask
Merging more than what you need from overlays is a recipe for disaster.
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the rate control algorithm these days...
As for your disconnects, I think they are due to nl80211 and/or your
network and/or router configuration; but it might very well be due to
that same bug above, in which case I guess you'll have to wait a bit to
see whether the debugging and r
ry I'm unsure if this can be debugged...
> Any advice? Should I look for a binary on the eclipse site?
Yes, try one from the Eclipse site and put it in /opt/ (create symlinks
in /usr/local/bin/); there is 4.3 there, I think we need to bump to
that in the Java overlay at some point as 4
4-07.xml
Perhaps all you need to do is restart the Apache service?
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he java overlay works here; I recommend that.
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lipse/
[2] http://gpo.zugaina.org/dev-util/eclipse-sdk-bin
[3] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Layman
[4] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325271#c159
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On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 18:13:57 +0100
Stroller wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 April 2014, at 2:32 pm, Tom Wijsman
> wrote:
> >> ...
> >> Do you seriously consider it up for debate whether or not it's a
> >> bug, when daily error messages are produced and emaile
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:11:38 +0100
Stroller wrote:
>
> On Wed, 16 April 2014, at 5:41 pm, Tom Wijsman
> wrote:
> > ...
> >> I guess I'll just file a vapid-one bug that my Gentoo system is
> >> generating these cron messages, rather than first trying to com
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 17:14:27 +0100
Stroller wrote:
>
> On Wed, 16 April 2014, at 4:52 pm, Tom Wijsman
> wrote:
> >
> > There is no such indication in that reply. That is up to you to
> > decide.
>
> Well, I posted here looking for useful answers
You nee
When you plan to do Gentoo, spend some time on avoiding much writes to
the SD card if possible; put /var/tmp/portage on external drive, etc...
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 16:39:22 +0100
Stroller wrote:
>
> On Wed, 16 April 2014, at 3:44 pm, Tom Wijsman
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 14:39:16 +0100
> > Stroller wrote:
> >
> >> What is mcelog, and why do I need it, please?
> >
> > Mac
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 14:39:16 +0100
Stroller wrote:
> What is mcelog, and why do I need it, please?
Machine check exception logger; iotw, it logs hardware errors.
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 19:39:09 +0200
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Tom Wijsman [14-04-15 19:36]:
> > On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 17:59:19 +0200
> > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> >
> > > Alan McKinnon [14-04-15 17:33]:
> > > To exegrate the whole discussion:
> >
u don't want in /etc/portage/package.mask; see `man
portage` for details, but for example if you don't want 337.12 or newer,
you would do something like this:
/etc/portage/package.mask:
>=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-337.12
Then doing `emerge -u x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers` will down
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:58:05 -0400
Chris Walters wrote:
> On 4/14/2014 12:17 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:00:43 -0400
> > Chris Walters wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/14/2014 11:58 AM, Chris Walters wrote:
> >>> I tried to post a messag
eaders on a pastebin / gist.
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ink how many
> things I've missed in the past.
No problem; be happy to now know you don't need that what misses. :)
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Params-Check-0.360.0 0 kB
-[ebuild R] virtual/perl-Parse-CPAN-Meta-1.440.400 0 kB
-[ebuild R] virtual/perl-Perl-OSType-1.2.0-r1 0 kB
-[ebuild R] virtual/perl-Test-Harness-3.260.0 0 kB
-[ebuild R] virtual/perl-Test-Simple-0.980.0-r2 0 kB
-[ebuild R] virtual/perl-versi
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 14:47:05 +0200
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> So...is there a recent workaround for this problem?
Which problem is this? Can you link us to the specific bug?
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d or whether a bug at the Bugzilla needs to be filed.
To spare extra mail, also attach `emerge --info` output and other logs
the end of the build.log might mention; for example, config.log.
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further.
Although besides that problem, it otherwise does work quite well here;
if not, feel free to inform and we can try to further improve matching.
(PS: Yes, it's quite hackish, no shebang, no POSIX compliance; it is
meant as an PoC example, further improvements can be done later)
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e that versions before 8.035 don't
support Linux 3.8 or later; so, you'll want to add net-misc/r8168
to /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords to emerge a later version.
As Linux <3.8 is becoming older with time, I filed a stabilization bug:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507518
t; How could i do to have again a . in the numpad ?
Your keymap might have changed.
You can set it back correctly using the following HOWTO:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Localization/HOWTO#Keyboard_layout_for_the_console
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:51:39 +0530
Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
> seems alright except virtual/init
That is a virtual that is no longer used, it is thus safe to remove.
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you won't forget about it when scanning through /etc config files.
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On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:25:31 +0100
Peter Humphrey wrote:
> I just wanted to save some time and confusion for anyone wanting to
> dip a toe into the muddy snort waters.
You can file a bug to have the page update or be marked as outdated.
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necessarily fix up blockers by lack of backtracking.
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drive with your car (use Perl apps);
you need a certificate that your car is alright (perl-cleaner), but for
that to be in order you need to work on fixing up your car (upgrade).
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tiple package instances within a single package slot have been
> pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
Did you upgrade your system (`emerge -auvDN @world`) prior to this?
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have been filed about this:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470962
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489198
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vide the build log such that I can reproduce and fix it.
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SyntaxError: invalid syntax
Can you attach the complete build.log?
PS: Note that I'm the maintainer of app-editors/retext.
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package is 2.x-only, you'll need to
build its dependencies with 2.x too for it to be able to function.
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dependencies; that way, it doesn't create the conflict you saw.
(Backtracking 9001 so it is sufficiently high to not cause conflicts)
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ython2_7 from PYTHON_TARGETS but then
> I cannot re-install portage although it is based on Python3.
Why is this? Can you share us the log or output of that?
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 22:44:23 +
Mick wrote:
> On Monday 24 Mar 2014 21:28:56 Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 20:23:55 +
> >
> > Mick wrote:
> > > /usr/lib64/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:30:in `require': cannot load
> > > such file -- ru
4951 Apr 20
> 2012 /usr/lib64/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb
>
> What now?
It can't load what is on line 30 of that file; there'll be a require
instruction, and that require instruction would bring in another file.
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nt with the output of `emerge --info` and
attach build.log as well as config.log? Thank you in advance.
If needed, resources with extra details about filing bug reports:
- https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Beautiful_bug_reports
- https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Bugzilla_HOWTO
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 18:35:20 +0100
null_ptr wrote:
> On 23/03/14 11:06, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> Switching to the old kernel fixed it so I bisected the linux-stable
> sources (as in the wiki) and the first bad commit is bd450dcc357.
> Attached is the bisect.log.
> Since it seems lik
hat was done; I always intend to follow the rules.
Sorry; I hope you see where this approach came from, I'm not trying to
override a majority or intentionally act different than the community.
Sorry again; thank you for your understanding.
PS: To make it clear that I stopped: The last
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:35:06 +0100
Karol wrote:
> -- listname+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org
> B.S.
Replace listname by gentoo-user; to unsubscribe, send that mail to:
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involved in a particular thread in replies to the mailing list, in case
any of them is not subscribed."
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k again; if that's the case, I suggest you to
consider a git bisect between the two releases to find the bad commit:
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_git-bisect
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e made off-list; that way, the topic can remain.
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n script, you might need to use
strace and/or ltrace to discover which Python script this is.
A next step could be to use a debugger on that Python script if the
trace, strace and/or ltrace are insufficient to reveal the cause.
When you have found the cause, can you file the details in a bug at
https:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:38:54 +0100
Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:28:25 -0300
> luis jure wrote:
>
> >
> > el 2014-03-22 a las 15:50 Tom Wijsman escribió:
> >
> > > How to set this up per folder?
> >
> > rigth-click on the
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:28:25 -0300
luis jure wrote:
>
> el 2014-03-22 a las 15:50 Tom Wijsman escribió:
>
> > How to set this up per folder?
>
> rigth-click on the folder, "Properties..." -> "Compose" -> "default
> to:"
Thank you v
oing to lose it.
The question is: How do you spend it?"
> Lots of people confuse factual statements with personal attacks.
As demonstrated above, the confusion is easily made.
> That said, I've never been know for being tactful... ;)
But what have you been known for? :)
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mention that.
Yes, I am inconsistent with *THIS* mailing list; let's change things to
make such inconsistency unnecessary, to fix this forever and always.
Otherwise we'll continue to get responses like these
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/273297
while we could ju
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:56:17 +
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:15:49 +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>
> > Here's something that works for the both of us: Request someone to
> > not CC you in a follow-up mail when you catch them do it, they'll
> >
he time to do it.
My past commits were spent on bringing MATE to the Portage tree; if I
would work on a logind implementation, there wouldn't be MATE.
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are still awaiting a reply; the only respectful guarantee that works
for the both of us is if the user states a solution was found and/or
addresses me to send no further emails, that gives guarantees.
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guaranteed to
be useful, I respect that you don't want to be CC-ed in follow-up mails.
Similarly; if someone is off-list; it takes a single mail to keep me
from sending additional mails. As it clarifies a disengagement; that
unsubscribing is meant to be a disengagement, I can't find that
xample procmail rule, as well as
my mail client, neither of both do that here.
> Do you see what I'm getting at?
No; I don't see why I should stop following the mailing list etiquette,
start relying on possibly wasting time as well as break what is fixed.
But yes; for convenience
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for details.
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one. Sometimes they ask a question, but receive
no answer so they are gone 20 or 30 minutes later. Similarly; we're now
a month later in this ML thread, who says people are still subscribed?
On IRC, if you pay notice to the many join/part/quits and don't filter
them, you can still spot that
s of people tell you to do something that conflicts, which one
would be picked? Well, pick the one that respects our etiquette; and
along that, the same one guarantees that my time is spent wise.
Similarly, would you spend time to keep asking this everytime it happens
by one or another individu
l/gentoo-sources` in the
installation; it is a slotted package, it only brings in the latest
visible version.
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such that the maintainers
are aware of this? That is, only if it is still reproducible today.
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so, please file a bug at https://bugs.gentoo.org
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morrow.
>
> On this list, you (people who insist on CC-ing the world) are the
> minority.
On this world, this list (where people that I can count on my fingers
insist on not being CC-ed) is a minority.
Regardless of both being a minority, they'll continue to be present.
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On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 03:11:25 +0100
eroen wrote:
> One would hope (mostly for their image's sake) the gnome team does
> not remove gnome-settings-daemon-2 until at least one of
> cinnamon-settings-daemon and mate-settings-daemon are included in
> gentoo proper.
+ 05 Mar
it is hardware.
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e part under reveals that you need
to increase the backtracking value and try again (if no blocker).
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entire thread; I'm not sure,
but can you let us know if the problem is resolved and how?
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e of that, you can make it whatever you
want to be nearly unlimited (other than by available manpower). :)
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g list etiquette requires people to CC all the people
involved in a particular thread in replies to the mailing list, in case
any of them is not subscribed."
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:41:54 +0100
"J. Roeleveld" wrote:
> On Fri, March 21, 2014 12:59, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:50:23 +0100
> > "J. Roeleveld" wrote:
> >
> >> Tom,
> >>
> >> Please reply to list. No need
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