Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
On 1/11/06, Eric Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 11 January 2006 03:06 pm, Iain Buchanan wrote: I think once we've got to the stage of UK (and AU) vs US spelling, I can invoke Godwin's Law[1] hereby ending the discussion completely and immediately ;) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law I took the spelling of words as being a good enough reason to invoke Godwin's Law, and hence posted it after the comparison occurred.I did not, in fact, raise the comparison of iou to ou just to raise Godwin's Law, and therefore my invocation should not be unsuccessful. Except Godwin's Law needs references to either Hitler or the Nazis in generalto be invoked, and neither of those topics have been covered yet in thisthread, you jack-booted, goose-stepping SS thug!!!:-) There.NOW you can invoke Godwin's Law.Although, to actually give this postSOME relevance to the original thread, will using Saviour Linux on yourcomputer assure it of going to Electronic Heaven when it finally dies??? 0:-)--Eric Blisssystems design and integration,CreativeCow.Net--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list*sigh* We clearly need to fix Wikipedia - you cannot 'invoke' Godwins law. It's more of an observation. Godwins law is like a 'law' of physics. When two planets crash into each other no one 'invokes' the law. It's two natural forces, beyond the control of any one person interacting. He was merely noting the nature of the universe, not creating a new piece of Intar-web legislation. So, apart from me pretending to be bent out of shape, that is all true. Thus, ´invoking' Godwins law is like saying, 'Ahh, the water is 100C, I invoke boiling!'. Saying something had no perceivable effect on the situation. =)heh, Joshua
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
I haven't been brave enough to read all of this thread, but as we seem to have gotten onto the topic of spelling, has anyone noticed that the saviour linux website now consists of: Saviour Linux comming soon! copied and pasted, complete with the misspelling of the third word LOL. On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:10:10 -0800 Joshua Schmidlkofer wrote: [something pertaining to Godwin's law] -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
On 12 January 2006 01:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:27:56 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: Uwe (who is good for throwing these Chinese solid state thin clients, I have got yesterday, out of the [wW]indows) I hope you are referring to computer hardware and not undernourished oriental customers :) It's hardware, alright. And I could just confirm with the manufacturers that there, indeed, were two bugs in those thin clients. Uwe -- Unix is sexy: who | grep -i blonde | date cd ~; unzip; touch; strip; finger mount; gasp; yes; uptime; umount sleep -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Thursday 12 January 2006 05:14, a tiny voice compelled Uwe Thiem to write: It's hardware, alright. And I could just confirm with the manufacturers that there, indeed, were two bugs in those thin clients. some penicillin should take care of that -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
Antoine wrote: I'm glad you didn't write humor-impaired, because then we'd have had a long discussion on whether the longer humour stands out and represents a great community better than the traditional (albeit more recent) humor... Didn't that ou/o stuff in humour/humor, saviour/savior, colour/color etc. have anything to do with differences between uk and us english? I seem to remember that in uk they spell these words with ou and the lazy and/or progressive americans have shortened it down to only o for themselves... English is however not my native language so if i'm mistaken please excuse my yet-another-spam inspired by the infamous Yet Another Best Distro Ever (tm). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 January 2006 21:15 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:00:17 + (WET), Jorge Almeida wrote: Seriously, does someone find the talk in the site somewhat style-impaired? My limited domain of the English language doesn't make me the best judge, but some phrases make me wonder about how young the webmaster is, assuming that English is his first language... I thought it had been written by someone who had just been on a marketing or management course. Plenty of buzz phrases with no real content. And a p*ss poor management course at that. Consider this: The traditional model for operating systems is a company request model. Saviour Linux uses a user request model in which users dictate what the operating system turns into instead of a business committee. Now, the users decide what will be, not businessmen. In any business model users (ultimately) generate demand, which if deemed worthy may entice suppliers to provide products/services. In this example the suppliers are (ultimately) the programmers and their decisions are based on manifested user demand and which is evaluated by programmers' personal preferences. The evaluation of what is worthy to spend development time on is a business decision (programming time has a value whether rewarded by monetary means or not). By virtue of the fact that programmers are making business decisions they are acting as the aforementioned businessmen. If many programmers join a development effort and make joint decisions they form, yep, that's right: a business committee! What he is implying but not articulating in his paragraph is the not-for-profit aspect of the business model. That does not change the argument. Decisions of value remain business decisions irrespective of the accounting treatment (distribution) of economic profit. It may after all not be a scam - just a superficially thought through uni project . . . Just my 2c's. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
Hello everyone, OK, this *is* getting rather off-topic, but what the heck ... :-D On Wednesday 11 January 2006 14:04, Mattias Merilai wrote: Antoine wrote: I'm glad you didn't write humor-impaired, because then we'd have had a long discussion on whether the longer humour stands out and represents a great community better than the traditional (albeit more recent) humor... Didn't that ou/o stuff in humour/humor, saviour/savior, colour/color etc. have anything to do with differences between uk and us english? I seem to remember that in uk they spell these words with ou and the lazy and/or progressive americans have shortened it down to only o for themselves... IIRC it is just the other way round. The Pilgrim Fathers came from England to Cape Cod (near Boston) and brought with them the English language. At that point in time, color was spelt color - even in the UK. Americans have kept the old spelling while their progressive European ancestors changed the spelling of some word (f.e. color - colour) - maybe because of some French influence at the Court in London ...? If you want more information on this, Bill Bryson's book Made in America is a rich source for that kind of things. Kind regards Martin Eisenhardt English is however not my native language so if i'm mistaken please excuse my yet-another-spam inspired by the infamous Yet Another Best Distro Ever (tm). P.S.: Since English is not my native language either I am by no means an authoritative source of information on the development of the English language over the past centuries - I just think I remember having read this somewhere but forgot exactly where ... -- Dipl. Wirtsch.Inf. (Univ.) Martin Eisenhardt Otto-Friedrich-University Bamberg Department Business Informatics and Applied Computer Science Media Informatics Group D - 96045 Bamberg fon: +49 (951) 863 2856 fax: +49 (951) 863 2852 www: http://www.mneisen.org -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
Hello again. I do think To have some kind of useful standard among the many distributions. is a good goal, but /Savio[u]?r Linux/ is a strange way of doing it... anyway, see below On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 12:34 +0100, Martin Eisenhardt wrote: Hello everyone, OK, this *is* getting rather off-topic, but what the heck ... :-D Didn't that ou/o stuff in humour/humor, saviour/savior, colour/color etc. have anything to do with differences between uk and us english? I seem to remember that in uk they spell these words with ou and the lazy and/or progressive americans have shortened it down to only o for themselves... IIRC it is just the other way round. [snip] If you want more information on this, Bill Bryson's book Made in America is a rich source for that kind of things. English is however not my native language so if i'm mistaken please excuse my yet-another-spam inspired by the infamous Yet Another Best Distro Ever (tm). P.S.: Since English is not my native language either I am by no means an authoritative source of information on the development of the English language over the past centuries English _is_ my native language, and I am still by no means as authoritative source of information on the devel... yadda yadda yadda! I think once we've got to the stage of UK (and AU) vs US spelling, I can invoke Godwin's Law[1] hereby ending the discussion completely and immediately ;) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law cya on another thread :) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Many pages make a thick book, except for pocket Bibles which are on very very thin paper. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:21:23 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: I think once we've got to the stage of UK (and AU) vs US spelling, I can invoke Godwin's Law[1] hereby ending the discussion completely and immediately ;) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law [quote] It is considered poor form to arbitrarily raise such a comparison with the motive of ending the thread. There is a widely recognized codicil that any such deliberate invocation of Godwin's Law will be unsuccessful. [/quote] -- Neil Bothwick Q. How many mice does it take to screw in a light bulb? A. Only two - but it's difficult to get them in there. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
Neil Bothwick schreef: On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:21:23 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: I think once we've got to the stage of UK (and AU) vs US spelling, I can invoke Godwin's Law[1] hereby ending the discussion completely and immediately ;) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law [quote] It is considered poor form to arbitrarily raise such a comparison with the motive of ending the thread. There is a widely recognized codicil that any such deliberate invocation of Godwin's Law will be unsuccessful. [/quote] Ooh, Neil, you're such a pedant! Gives me a shiver just listening to you. LOL Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:55:19 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Ooh, Neil, you're such a pedant! You're too kind :) -- Neil Bothwick Press any key... no, no, no, NOT THAT ONE! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
On 11 January 2006 18:22, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:55:19 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Ooh, Neil, you're such a pedant! You're too kind :) Shivers are good for the soul. ;-) ... and pedants are good for software development. Uwe (who is good for throwing these Chinese solid state thin clients, I have got yesterday, out of the [wW]indows) -- Unix is sexy: who | grep -i blonde | date cd ~; unzip; touch; strip; finger mount; gasp; yes; uptime; umount sleep -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
On 10 January 2006 18:17, Michael Sullivan wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 16:03 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:31:57 -0500, Darryl Wagoner wrote: It looks interesting concept similar to something I can up with but haven't had the time to do anything with. What is the profit sharing model? What makes this different than other distro? It it totally bug-free! Totally bug-free? AND brand new??? If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you... Actually, Neil is right. Vapourware is bug-free. By definition. Uwe -- Unix is sexy: who | grep -i blonde | date cd ~; unzip; touch; strip; finger mount; gasp; yes; uptime; umount sleep -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 13:39 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:21:23 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: I think once we've got to the stage of UK (and AU) vs US spelling, I can invoke Godwin's Law[1] hereby ending the discussion completely and immediately ;) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law [quote] It is considered poor form to arbitrarily raise such a comparison with the motive of ending the thread. There is a widely recognized codicil that any such deliberate invocation of Godwin's Law will be unsuccessful. [/quote] [quote] Godwin developed the law as a counter-meme and began posting it in Usenet discussions after such a comparison occurred. [/quote] I took the spelling of words as being a good enough reason to invoke Godwin's Law, and hence posted it after the comparison occurred. I did not, in fact, raise the comparison of iou to ou just to raise Godwin's Law, and therefore my invocation should not be unsuccessful. ;) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Utility is when you have one telephone, luxury is when you have two, opulence is when you have three -- and paradise is when you have none. -- Doug Larson -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
On Wednesday 11 January 2006 03:06 pm, Iain Buchanan wrote: I think once we've got to the stage of UK (and AU) vs US spelling, I can invoke Godwin's Law[1] hereby ending the discussion completely and immediately ;) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law I took the spelling of words as being a good enough reason to invoke Godwin's Law, and hence posted it after the comparison occurred. I did not, in fact, raise the comparison of iou to ou just to raise Godwin's Law, and therefore my invocation should not be unsuccessful. Except Godwin's Law needs references to either Hitler or the Nazis in general to be invoked, and neither of those topics have been covered yet in this thread, you jack-booted, goose-stepping SS thug!!! :-) There. NOW you can invoke Godwin's Law. Although, to actually give this post SOME relevance to the original thread, will using Saviour Linux on your computer assure it of going to Electronic Heaven when it finally dies??? 0:-) -- Eric Bliss systems design and integration, CreativeCow.Net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:27:56 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: Uwe (who is good for throwing these Chinese solid state thin clients, I have got yesterday, out of the [wW]indows) I hope you are referring to computer hardware and not undernourished oriental customers :) -- Neil Bothwick LaForge [examining Data's open head]: Waitaminute, Data! What does 'Intel Inside' mean? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
On Wednesday 11 January 2006 03:49 pm, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 15:29 -0800, Eric Bliss wrote: Although, to actually give this post SOME relevance to the original thread, will using Saviour Linux on your computer assure it of going to Electronic Heaven when it finally dies??? only if your computer accepts it's operating system (saviour linux) as the only way ;) So a dual-boot system is still going to hell then? :-) Or what about embeded systems that are too small to be able to accept Saviour Linux? Do they go to hell too? Or what about computers that have already died, before Saviour Linux became available??? I've always seen computer users get religious about their OSes, but I think this is going to take it to a whole new level -- Eric Bliss systems design and integration, CreativeCow.Net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
Thanks for spamming the gentoo-user list. On 1/9/06, Mark Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello fellow Linux Users! We here at SaviourLinux.com desire to create a united universal way. Please visit the website for more information, but here is the purpose: Saviour Linux is an easy and universal Linux distribution that pays community programmers. Saviour Linux is not just another distribution. Saviour Linux will be unified and run by the community. We will bring in a new business that gives out completely free software instead of closed source. All of our profit will come from services and it will pay volunteer programmers. Only a little of the profit will go towards overhead. Saviour Linux is Linux united. Every distribution can still be independent, but we wanted to help the community in a new way. Please contact me if you are interested. Sincerely, Mark Stewart SaviourLinux.com Coordinator and Website Maintainer -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
On 1/9/06, Mark Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip We here at SaviourLinux.com desire to create a united universal way. Please visit the website for more information, but here is the purpose: Saviour Linux is an easy and universal Linux distribution that pays community programmers. Saviour Linux is not just another distribution. Saviour Linux will be unified and run by the community. /snip Why only those words united, universal, unified sound strange to me? Jarry -- Telefonieren Sie schon oder sparen Sie noch? NEU: GMX Phone_Flat http://www.gmx.net/de/go/telefonie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Because they all mean the same thing :lol: On 1/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/9/06, Mark Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip We here at SaviourLinux.com desire to create a united universal way. Please visit the website for more information, but here is the purpose: Saviour Linux is an easy and universal Linux distribution that pays community programmers. Saviour Linux is not just another distribution. Saviour Linux will be unified and run by the community. /snip Why only those words united, universal, unified sound strange to me? Jarry -- Telefonieren Sie schon oder sparen Sie noch? NEU: GMX Phone_Flat http://www.gmx.net/de/go/telefonie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why only those words united, universal, unified sound strange to me? Having too much time in my hands, I visited the site. Couldn't find any juice. Could it be that the thing doesn't exist? No doc section, no download section, no nothing except talk about uniting all [other (?)] distributions and becoming a Company. -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 12:36 +, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why only those words united, universal, unified sound strange to me? Having too much time in my hands, I visited the site. Couldn't find any juice. Could it be that the thing doesn't exist? No doc section, no download section, no nothing except talk about uniting all [other (?)] distributions and becoming a Company. That's because you haven't provided your credit card details and bank account details yet for them to _deposit_ your money into... ;) But seriously, if this is for real, good for them and lets hope they succeed. However: 1. Uniting two groups will always end up with three. 2. Programmers don't only provide assistance for the money, so money won't necessarily attract them 3. Why re-invent the wheel? Just join Gentoo and make it even better ;) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Perhaps I'm missing the gene for making enemies. :-) -- Larry Wall in [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
You took the words right out of my mouth Iain :-) On 1/10/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 12:36 +, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why only those words united, universal, unified sound strange to me? Having too much time in my hands, I visited the site. Couldn't find any juice. Could it be that the thing doesn't exist? No doc section, no download section, no nothing except talk about uniting all [other (?)] distributions and becoming a Company. That's because you haven't provided your credit card details and bank account details yet for them to _deposit_ your money into... ;) But seriously, if this is for real, good for them and lets hope they succeed. However: 1. Uniting two groups will always end up with three. 2. Programmers don't only provide assistance for the money, so money won't necessarily attract them 3. Why re-invent the wheel? Just join Gentoo and make it even better ;) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Perhaps I'm missing the gene for making enemies. :-) -- Larry Wall in [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
2006/1/10, Mark Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello fellow Linux Users!We here at SaviourLinux.com desire to create a united universal way.Please visit the website for more information, but here is the purpose:Saviour Linux is an easy and universal Linux distribution that pays community programmers.Saviour Linux is not just another distribution. Saviour Linux will beunified and run by the community. We will bring in a new business thatgives out completely free software instead of closed source. All of our profit will come from services and it will pay volunteer programmers.Only a little of the profit will go towards overhead.Whenever I read about yet another Linux distribution, my first reaction to it is Why? With the gazillion distributions already available I find it hard to come up with a reason to create yet another one.Regards,Martin S
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On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 12:23 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/9/06, Mark Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip We here at SaviourLinux.com desire to create a united universal way. Please visit the website for more information, but here is the purpose: Saviour Linux is an easy and universal Linux distribution that pays community programmers. Saviour Linux is not just another distribution. Saviour Linux will be unified and run by the community. /snip Why only those words united, universal, unified sound strange to me? Jarry -- Telefonieren Sie schon oder sparen Sie noch? NEU: GMX Phone_Flat http://www.gmx.net/de/go/telefonie I believe in the early 1990's it was called the New World Order. The funny thing is that I could've sworn that pretty much all GNU Linux was already what the person described Saviour Linux was, except with Saviour Linux the volunteers get payed for their work. To my way of thinking that cheapens the product. It's ironic. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 12:36 +, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why only those words united, universal, unified sound strange to me? Having too much time in my hands, I visited the site. Couldn't find any juice. Could it be that the thing doesn't exist? No doc section, no download section, no nothing except talk about uniting all [other (?)] distributions and becoming a Company. -- Jorge Almeida Sounds very Microsoftish... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
Greetings,I too looked at the Saviour Linux web site and my question is where's the beef?It looks interesting concept similar to something I can up with but haven't had the time to do anything with. What is the profit sharing model? What makes this different than other distro? Interesting idea. On 1/10/06, Martin S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006/1/10, Mark Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello fellow Linux Users!We here at SaviourLinux.com desire to create a united universal way.Please visit the website for more information, but here is the purpose:Saviour Linux is an easy and universal Linux distribution that pays community programmers.Saviour Linux is not just another distribution. Saviour Linux will beunified and run by the community. We will bring in a new business thatgives out completely free software instead of closed source. All of our profit will come from services and it will pay volunteer programmers.Only a little of the profit will go towards overhead.Whenever I read about yet another Linux distribution, my first reaction to it is Why? With the gazillion distributions already available I find it hard to come up with a reason to create yet another one.Regards,Martin S -- Darryl Wagoner - WA1GONEvil triumphs when good men do nothing.- Edmund Burke [1729-1797]
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On 1/10/06, Darryl Wagoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too looked at the Saviour Linux web site and my question is where's the beef? quote As a community project, we need to stand out. Saviour is the longer word that is more. Saviour Linux is its own. As its own, it needs to be different than traditional English and it needs to stand out. And Savior can sound close to Savor. We need a longer word to represent a great program and community. /quote And you want beef?! -- ellotheth rimmwen * monjoy * -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Huh? A Linux distro will stand out by how well or poorly the distro is, not by the name that is used.Gentoo is one such distro. Gentoo has been the best distro that I have used and I have used many. I would like to see a jump start version which was quicker to get going, but otherwise it is a great distro. If you had anything to do with creating Gentoo, I would like to say THANK YOU!!!-darrylOn 1/10/06, ellotheth rimmwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On 1/10/06, Darryl Wagoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too looked at the Saviour Linux web site and my question is where's the beef?quoteAs a community project, we need to stand out. Saviour is the longer word that is more.Saviour Linux is its own. As its own, it needs to be different thantraditional English and it needs to stand out. And Savior can soundclose to Savor. We need a longer word to represent a great program and community./quoteAnd you want beef?!--ellotheth rimmwen* monjoy *--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Darryl Wagoner - WA1GONEvil triumphs when good men do nothing.- Edmund Burke [1729-1797]
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:31:57 -0500, Darryl Wagoner wrote: It looks interesting concept similar to something I can up with but haven't had the time to do anything with. What is the profit sharing model? What makes this different than other distro? It it totally bug-free! -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as he connected at 300 bps. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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seems like the wrong place for such a pitch, proposal, proposition :-P, but seriously what r these people thinking?On 1/10/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:31:57 -0500, Darryl Wagoner wrote: It looks interesting concept similar to something I can up with but haven't had the time to do anything with.What is the profit sharing model?What makes this different than other distro? It it totally bug-free!--Neil BothwickBother, said Pooh, as he connected at 300 bps.-- Shawn Singh
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On 1/10/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:31:57 -0500, Darryl Wagoner wrote: It looks interesting concept similar to something I can up with but haven't had the time to do anything with.What is the profit sharing model?What makes this different than other distro? It it totally bug-free!Well that would make it different! It is also totally unrealistic.-- Darryl Wagoner - WA1GONEvil triumphs when good men do nothing.- Edmund Burke [1729-1797]
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2006/1/10, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:31:57 -0500, Darryl Wagoner wrote: It looks interesting concept similar to something I can up with but haven't had the time to do anything with.What is the profit sharing model?What makes this different than other distro? It it totally bug-free!Wait untill they release their first app :-)Regards,Martin S
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On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 16:03 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:31:57 -0500, Darryl Wagoner wrote: It looks interesting concept similar to something I can up with but haven't had the time to do anything with. What is the profit sharing model? What makes this different than other distro? It it totally bug-free! Totally bug-free? AND brand new??? If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Tuesday 10 January 2006 10:03, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way': On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:31:57 -0500, Darryl Wagoner wrote: It looks interesting concept similar to something I can up with but haven't had the time to do anything with. What is the profit sharing model? What makes this different than other distro? It it totally bug-free! For the sarcasm impaired, this is a joke. Since they haven't produces any code (that any of us can see) it is inherently bug-free. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Since they haven't produces any code (that any of us can see) it is inherently bug-free. :-), yeah and when they write some, there will ONLY be OPPORTUNITIES that are in need of realization :)On 1/10/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 January 2006 10:03, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wroteabout 'Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way': On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:31:57 -0500, Darryl Wagoner wrote: It looks interesting concept similar to something I can up with but haven't had the time to do anything with.What is the profit sharing model?What makes this different than other distro? It it totally bug-free!For the sarcasm impaired, this is a joke.Since they haven't produces anycode (that any of us can see) it is inherently bug-free.--Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Shawn Singh
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On 1/10/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:31:57 -0500, Darryl Wagoner wrote: It looks interesting concept similar to something I can up with but haven't had the time to do anything with. What is the profit sharing model? What makes this different than other distro? It it totally bug-free! There's no such thing as bug-free software, and Santa Claus does not exist, neither does the Easter Bunny or Trolls (but I'm not really certain about the trolls). There are two kinds of programs, the ones with discovered bugs and the ones with bugs to be discovered. -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as he connected at 300 bps. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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It it totally bug-free! ... There's no such thing as bug-free software, and Santa Claus does not exist, neither does the Easter Bunny or Trolls (but I'm not really certain about the trolls). There are two kinds of programs, the ones with discovered bugs and the ones with bugs to be discovered. Rubbish! I have never written code with bugs in it! A great deal with some highly undesirable features... but my code is nowhere near good enough to create actual bugs :-). Chrs A -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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It it totally bug-free! How boring! :) Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Tuesday 10 January 2006 04:40, Mark Stewart wrote: Hello fellow Linux Users! We here at SaviourLinux.com desire to create a united universal way. Please visit the website for more information, but here is the purpose: You missed the target audience. Here at gentoo there are mostly hardcore linux geeks, and we already have universal way. You do not make a fortune here with a scam like this. -- Petr -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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ellotheth rimmwen wrote: On 1/10/06, Darryl Wagoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too looked at the Saviour Linux web site and my question is where's the beef? quote As a community project, we need to stand out. Saviour is the longer word that is more. Saviour Linux is its own. As its own, it needs to be different than traditional English and it needs to stand out. And Savior can sound close to Savor. We need a longer word to represent a great program and community. /quote And you want beef?! -- ellotheth rimmwen * monjoy * And I'm sure you all noticed the very precise description of Gentoo Linux in the About Linux section: quote It compiles almost everything from the source code [...] this gives it a speed advantage as well as other things. /quote Matthias -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:29:11 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: It it totally bug-free! For the sarcasm impaired, this is a joke. Since they haven't produces any code (that any of us can see) it is inherently bug-free. I'm glad you didn't write humor-impaired, because then we'd have had a long discussion on whether the longer humour stands out and represents a great community better than the traditional (albeit more recent) humor... -- Neil Bothwick Procedure: (n.) a method of performing a program sub-task in an inefficient way by extensively using the stack instead of a GOTO. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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I'm glad you didn't write humor-impaired, because then we'd have had a long discussion on whether the longer humour stands out and represents a great community better than the traditional (albeit more recent) humor... Very humerous. Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 18:15 +0100, Antoine wrote: It it totally bug-free! ... There's no such thing as bug-free software, and Santa Claus does not exist, neither does the Easter Bunny or Trolls (but I'm not really certain about the trolls). There are two kinds of programs, the ones with discovered bugs and the ones with bugs to be discovered. Rubbish! I have never written code with bugs in it! A great deal with some highly undesirable features... but my code is nowhere near good enough to create actual bugs :-). Chrs A I could teach you how... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Tuesday 10 January 2006 12:36, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why only those words united, universal, unified sound strange to me? Having too much time in my hands, I visited the site. Couldn't find any juice. Could it be that the thing doesn't exist? No doc section, no download section, no nothing except talk about uniting all [other (?)] distributions and becoming a Company. I'm impressed with search skills Jorge. I couldn't even find the site. -- Big Tone -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Tony Davison wrote: On Tuesday 10 January 2006 12:36, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why only those words united, universal, unified sound strange to me? Having too much time in my hands, I visited the site. Couldn't find any juice. Could it be that the thing doesn't exist? No doc section, no download section, no nothing except talk about uniting all [other (?)] distributions and becoming a Company. I'm impressed with search skills Jorge. I couldn't even find the site. This help? http://saviourlinux.com/ I hate to say this, but something is fishy here. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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NO kidding... I have to say just by the way the website is worded it sounds like a scam... You want to know what is even funnier is that this spam message has generated a boat load of responses :) Robin On 1/10/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Davison wrote: On Tuesday 10 January 2006 12:36, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why only those words united, universal, unified sound strange to me? Having too much time in my hands, I visited the site. Couldn't find any juice. Could it be that the thing doesn't exist? No doc section, no download section, no nothing except talk about uniting all [other (?)] distributions and becoming a Company. I'm impressed with search skills Jorge. I couldn't even find the site. This help? http://saviourlinux.com/ I hate to say this, but something is fishy here. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Tuesday 10 January 2006 19:17, Dale wrote: I'm impressed with search skills Jorge. I couldn't even find the site. This help? http://saviourlinux.com/ I hate to say this, but something is fishy here. Cheers Dale. It does seem weird. -- Big Tone -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Tuesday 10 January 2006 19:26, Robin wrote: NO kidding... I have to say just by the way the website is worded it sounds like a scam... You want to know what is even funnier is that this spam message has generated a boat load of responses :) EM and all that. -- Big Tone -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Dale wrote: I hate to say this, but something is fishy here. Now, let's not be hasty. The original post does say other distributions will be allowed to remain independent. That's really generous. Seriously, does someone find the talk in the site somewhat style-impaired? My limited domain of the English language doesn't make me the best judge, but some phrases make me wonder about how young the webmaster is, assuming that English is his first language... -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petr Kocmid wrote: On Tuesday 10 January 2006 04:40, Mark Stewart wrote: Hello fellow Linux Users! We here at SaviourLinux.com desire to create a united universal way. Please visit the website for more information, but here is the purpose: You missed the target audience. Here at gentoo there are mostly hardcore linux geeks, and we already have universal way. You do not make a fortune here with a scam like this. I'm really impressed how such a spam message can take so long and lots of replies... hahaha, but it is pretty funny to hear all your comments. Well, in sf it doesn't seem to be anything... THEY HAVE WORKED TOO HARD TILL NOW... hahaha. I'm gonna install that thing instead of my yesterday loved Gentoo distro. :P Bye, Rafael Fernández López. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDxCUj9RRlaicc3IERAk7KAKCVNVLF9o+zQQN+giDtUPg0AECmyACgqD+Q TuUi87H06L5zin1s3hMmzWU= =RsWd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:00:17 + (WET), Jorge Almeida wrote: Seriously, does someone find the talk in the site somewhat style-impaired? My limited domain of the English language doesn't make me the best judge, but some phrases make me wonder about how young the webmaster is, assuming that English is his first language... I thought it had been written by someone who had just been on a marketing or management course. Plenty of buzz phrases with no real content. -- Neil Bothwick I'm warning you! One step closer and I'll drop carrier! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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Hello fellow Linux Users! We here at SaviourLinux.com desire to create a united universal way. Please visit the website for more information, but here is the purpose: Saviour Linux is an easy and universal Linux distribution that pays community programmers. Saviour Linux is not just another distribution. Saviour Linux will be unified and run by the community. We will bring in a new business that gives out completely free software instead of closed source. All of our profit will come from services and it will pay volunteer programmers. Only a little of the profit will go towards overhead. Saviour Linux is Linux united. Every distribution can still be independent, but we wanted to help the community in a new way. Please contact me if you are interested. Sincerely, Mark Stewart SaviourLinux.com Coordinator and Website Maintainer -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
