Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-29 Thread forgottenwizard
On 16:32 Fri 28 Sep , Patrick May wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 03:43:52PM -0500, forgottenwizard wrote:
  On 08:31 Fri 28 Sep , Patrick May wrote:
   I missed this thread earlier, so pardon me commenting to the OP so far 
   down
   the thread.
   
  On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:00:33 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote:
 
   BTW, if anyone knows of a cheap tuner card (50US preferably) that
   is decent and works with either PCI/USB/AGP, I would love to know.
   
   I'm currently using an air2pc card I picked up on eBay. I believe I paid
   around $20-30US. It pulls in all OTA ATSC signals just fine. I can't 
   speak for
   it's abilities to work with QAM (Cable.) I'm controlling it with MythTV.
   
   Though I do recommend a decent processor. I used to run an Athlon 850MHz 
   and
   it could not keep up with an HD (1080i, etc) signal. It will dump the 
   stream
   to disk, just not display it (slow, pauses, etc.) 
   
   Patrick
  
  I'm doing some looking and think I'm going to blow my budget and get a
  Haup. PVR-150, which I know is supported.
  
  Thanks for all of your help everyone.
  
 If you are planning to watch over the air (not cable) remember that analog
 will go off air on Feb 17, 2009. A little less than 17 months from now.
 
 Patrick

Thats why I was looking for something else, but I ended up getting a
WinTV-PVR-150 today. It wasn't too expensive, and I was able to get it
(mostly) working for awhile. Oddly enough, since trying it with mythtv,
it doesn't seem to want to work anymore, which is highly annoying since
the thing took me about 2-3 hours to get to operate (requiring a few
kernel recompiles and some firmware-hunting).

Since I'm using cable, I figure if I need to, in 17 month I can get a
converter, or afford to buy a better card.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-28 Thread Patrick May
I missed this thread earlier, so pardon me commenting to the OP so far down
the thread.

   On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:00:33 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote:
  
BTW, if anyone knows of a cheap tuner card (50US preferably) that
is decent and works with either PCI/USB/AGP, I would love to know.

I'm currently using an air2pc card I picked up on eBay. I believe I paid
around $20-30US. It pulls in all OTA ATSC signals just fine. I can't speak for
it's abilities to work with QAM (Cable.) I'm controlling it with MythTV.

Though I do recommend a decent processor. I used to run an Athlon 850MHz and
it could not keep up with an HD (1080i, etc) signal. It will dump the stream
to disk, just not display it (slow, pauses, etc.) 

Patrick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-28 Thread Mark Shields
On 9/27/07, Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:59:18 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:00:33 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote:
 
   BTW, if anyone knows of a cheap tuner card (50US preferably) that
   is decent and works with either PCI/USB/AGP, I would love to know.
 
  Analogue or DVB? I've used a Freecom DVB dongle with Gentoo (amd64 and
  ppc) and it worked well. For a cheap PCI card, the KWorld cards are
  decent.

 Just a short warning: The US standards are a bit different... (but
 KWorld has ATSC equipment, too, not just DVB).

 And if commercial HDTV is to be received, special care has to be taken
 that everything is HDMI compliant -- I think there are only hardware
 based solutions to this problem, and it certainly won't be cheap -- at
 least not 50USD, I think...

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You say HDMI compliant - do you mean HDCP compliant?  That certainly makes
more sense in the context.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-28 Thread forgottenwizard
On 08:31 Fri 28 Sep , Patrick May wrote:
 I missed this thread earlier, so pardon me commenting to the OP so far down
 the thread.
 
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:00:33 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote:
   
 BTW, if anyone knows of a cheap tuner card (50US preferably) that
 is decent and works with either PCI/USB/AGP, I would love to know.
 
 I'm currently using an air2pc card I picked up on eBay. I believe I paid
 around $20-30US. It pulls in all OTA ATSC signals just fine. I can't speak for
 it's abilities to work with QAM (Cable.) I'm controlling it with MythTV.
 
 Though I do recommend a decent processor. I used to run an Athlon 850MHz and
 it could not keep up with an HD (1080i, etc) signal. It will dump the stream
 to disk, just not display it (slow, pauses, etc.) 
 
 Patrick

I'm doing some looking and think I'm going to blow my budget and get a
Haup. PVR-150, which I know is supported.

Thanks for all of your help everyone.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-28 Thread Patrick May
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 03:43:52PM -0500, forgottenwizard wrote:
 On 08:31 Fri 28 Sep , Patrick May wrote:
  I missed this thread earlier, so pardon me commenting to the OP so far down
  the thread.
  
 On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:00:33 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote:

  BTW, if anyone knows of a cheap tuner card (50US preferably) that
  is decent and works with either PCI/USB/AGP, I would love to know.
  
  I'm currently using an air2pc card I picked up on eBay. I believe I paid
  around $20-30US. It pulls in all OTA ATSC signals just fine. I can't speak 
  for
  it's abilities to work with QAM (Cable.) I'm controlling it with MythTV.
  
  Though I do recommend a decent processor. I used to run an Athlon 850MHz and
  it could not keep up with an HD (1080i, etc) signal. It will dump the stream
  to disk, just not display it (slow, pauses, etc.) 
  
  Patrick
 
 I'm doing some looking and think I'm going to blow my budget and get a
 Haup. PVR-150, which I know is supported.
 
 Thanks for all of your help everyone.
 
If you are planning to watch over the air (not cable) remember that analog
will go off air on Feb 17, 2009. A little less than 17 months from now.

Patrick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-27 Thread forgottenwizard
On 15:15 Thu 27 Sep , Iain Buchanan wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 23:40 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote:
 
  All great suggestions, except I'm hoping to see if it might work before
  I buy it. I really don't like the prospect of spending money on hardware
  just for things to turn out that it doesn't work in Linux.
 
 take your laptop into the store.  Or if you don't have a laptop, take a
 livecd with lsusb, lshw, etc. on it.  If they won't accommodate that,
 shop somewhere else ;)
 
 If you're buying online, find a local store that has the same card and
 do the same thing.
 
 If you don't have any local stores, ... um, post to this list!!
 
 HTH!
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Tomorrow I think I'll stop into a store or two and see what they carry.
I think I have a Knoppix disk somewhere, so I will try that.

BTW, if anyone knows of a cheap tuner card (50US preferably) that is
decent and works with either PCI/USB/AGP, I would love to know.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:00:33 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote:

 BTW, if anyone knows of a cheap tuner card (50US preferably) that is
 decent and works with either PCI/USB/AGP, I would love to know.

Analogue or DVB? I've used a Freecom DVB dongle with Gentoo (amd64 and
ppc) and it worked well. For a cheap PCI card, the KWorld cards are
decent.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-27 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:59:18 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:00:33 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote:
 
  BTW, if anyone knows of a cheap tuner card (50US preferably) that
  is decent and works with either PCI/USB/AGP, I would love to know.
 
 Analogue or DVB? I've used a Freecom DVB dongle with Gentoo (amd64 and
 ppc) and it worked well. For a cheap PCI card, the KWorld cards are
 decent.

Just a short warning: The US standards are a bit different... (but
KWorld has ATSC equipment, too, not just DVB).

And if commercial HDTV is to be received, special care has to be taken
that everything is HDMI compliant -- I think there are only hardware
based solutions to this problem, and it certainly won't be cheap -- at
least not 50USD, I think...

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-27 Thread forgottenwizard
On 17:24 Thu 27 Sep , Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:59:18 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:00:33 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote:
  
   BTW, if anyone knows of a cheap tuner card (50US preferably) that
   is decent and works with either PCI/USB/AGP, I would love to know.
  
  Analogue or DVB? I've used a Freecom DVB dongle with Gentoo (amd64 and
  ppc) and it worked well. For a cheap PCI card, the KWorld cards are
  decent.
 
 Just a short warning: The US standards are a bit different... (but
 KWorld has ATSC equipment, too, not just DVB).
 
 And if commercial HDTV is to be received, special care has to be taken
 that everything is HDMI compliant -- I think there are only hardware
 based solutions to this problem, and it certainly won't be cheap -- at
 least not 50USD, I think...
 
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I was hoping for Digital since analog will be going the way of the Dodo
in the next few years.

HDTV isn't going to be received since my monitor won't handle it
properly to start with.

I looked at a few KWorld cards online, and saw a few Happ. that were
less than 50US, but I'm going to do some more looking.

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[gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-26 Thread forgottenwizard
I hope this isn't the wrong place to ask this, but I need help finding a
chipset for an admitedly cheap tuner.

The product in question is the Sabrent TV-USB20 tuner (USB-powered). I
have searched google for awhile, and I can't seem to find the chipset
for this card, but mostly just results on very specific cards.

All I need to know is if this tuner will work with Gentoo or not,
really.The product in question is the Sabrent TV-USB20 tuner
(USB-powered). I have searched google for awhile, and I can't seem to
find the chipset for this card, but mostly just results on very specific
cards.

All I need to know is if this tuner will work with Gentoo or not,
really.The product in question is the Sabrent TV-USB20 tuner
(USB-powered). I have searched google for awhile, and I can't seem to
find the chipset for this card, but mostly just results on very specific
cards.

All I need to know is if this tuner will work with Gentoo or not,
really.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-26 Thread Szénási István
Hi!

I don't know if it helps, but I looked at the windows driver and it's
name (in the inf file) is tridvid
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-26 Thread Dan Farrell
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:29:45 -0500
forgottenwizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I hope this isn't the wrong place to ask this, but I need help
 finding a chipset for an admitedly cheap tuner.
 
 The product in question is the Sabrent TV-USB20 tuner (USB-powered). I
 have searched google for awhile, and I can't seem to find the chipset
 for this card, but mostly just results on very specific cards.
 
 All I need to know is if this tuner will work with Gentoo or not,
 really.The product in question is the Sabrent TV-USB20 tuner
 (USB-powered). I have searched google for awhile, and I can't seem to
 find the chipset for this card, but mostly just results on very
 specific cards.
 
 All I need to know is if this tuner will work with Gentoo or not,
 really.The product in question is the Sabrent TV-USB20 tuner
 (USB-powered). I have searched google for awhile, and I can't seem to
 find the chipset for this card, but mostly just results on very
 specific cards.
 
 All I need to know is if this tuner will work with Gentoo or not,
 really.
 

Have you looked at 'lsusb' output yet?  That usually gives data
relevant to the chipset (for example, what it is and who made it ;) )
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-26 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 18:25 -0500, Dan Farrell wrote:
 On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:29:45 -0500
 forgottenwizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
 
 Have you looked at 'lsusb' output yet?  That usually gives data
 relevant to the chipset (for example, what it is and who made it ;) )

Also take the : hex number (see 413c:3010 below) that lsusb
spits out, and google that if lsusb itself gives unknown.  It basically
specifies the manufacturer and chipset/model.  lsbusb -v is also
helpful.

i.e.,
lsusb
...
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 413c:3010 Dell Computer Corp. Optical Wheel Mouse
...




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Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-26 Thread forgottenwizard
On 08:43 Thu 27 Sep , W.Kenworthy wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 18:25 -0500, Dan Farrell wrote:
  On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:29:45 -0500
  forgottenwizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...
  
  Have you looked at 'lsusb' output yet?  That usually gives data
  relevant to the chipset (for example, what it is and who made it ;) )
 
 Also take the : hex number (see 413c:3010 below) that lsusb
 spits out, and google that if lsusb itself gives unknown.  It basically
 specifies the manufacturer and chipset/model.  lsbusb -v is also
 helpful.
 
 i.e.,
 lsusb
 ...
 Bus 003 Device 003: ID 413c:3010 Dell Computer Corp. Optical Wheel Mouse
 ...
 
 
 
 
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All great suggestions, except I'm hoping to see if it might work before
I buy it. I really don't like the prospect of spending money on hardware
just for things to turn out that it doesn't work in Linux.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-26 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 23:40 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote:

 All great suggestions, except I'm hoping to see if it might work before
 I buy it. I really don't like the prospect of spending money on hardware
 just for things to turn out that it doesn't work in Linux.

take your laptop into the store.  Or if you don't have a laptop, take a
livecd with lsusb, lshw, etc. on it.  If they won't accommodate that,
shop somewhere else ;)

If you're buying online, find a local store that has the same card and
do the same thing.

If you don't have any local stores, ... um, post to this list!!

HTH!
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