Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature.
Michael, On Wednesday, 2023-11-29 17:56:37 +, you wrote: > ... > It depends on the hardware, this is what I have enabled on an AMD MoBo: > > ~ $ grep SPI /usr/src/linux/.config > ... > CONFIG_SCSI_SPI_ATTRS=y > CONFIG_SPI=y > CONFIG_SPI_MASTER=y > ... > CONFIG_SPI_AMD=m > ... > CONFIG_SPI_DYNAMIC=y > ... > CONFIG_RTC_I2C_AND_SPI=y Thanks for the info. Apart from "CONFIG_SPI_AMD=m" this is what I've now configured too. Sincerely, Rainer
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature.
On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 17:34:48 GMT Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Tuesday, 2023-11-28 10:13:56 +, you wrote: > > ... > > I suggested enabling the SPI modules because they are used by the CPU to > > communicate with various sensors, adjust clock frequency between > > components > > and thereafter to receive signals a/synchronously to control temperatures. > > What exactly do you suggest? My kernel (6.1.57) configuration contains: > >$ grep SPI /usr/src/linux/.config|grep -v SPIN >CONFIG_SCSI_SPI_ATTRS=y ># CONFIG_SPI is not set ># SPI RTC drivers >CONFIG_RTC_I2C_AND_SPI=y ># SPI and I2C RTC drivers >$ > > I played a little with the "/" and "?" commands of "make menuconfig", > activated "CONFIG_SPI" and found a lot of controllers and drivers, but > nothing obvious to enable additionally. However, apparently activating > "CONFIG_SPI" also activated > >CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_ADI=y >CONFIG_SND_SPI=y >CONFIG_SPI_DYNAMIC=y >CONFIG_SPI_MASTER=y > > Is this what you are suggesting? > > Sincerely, > Rainer It depends on the hardware, this is what I have enabled on an AMD MoBo: ~ $ grep SPI /usr/src/linux/.config CONFIG_UNINLINE_SPIN_UNLOCK=y CONFIG_MUTEX_SPIN_ON_OWNER=y CONFIG_RWSEM_SPIN_ON_OWNER=y CONFIG_LOCK_SPIN_ON_OWNER=y CONFIG_ARCH_USE_QUEUED_SPINLOCKS=y CONFIG_QUEUED_SPINLOCKS=y # CONFIG_INET6_ESPINTCP is not set CONFIG_SCSI_SPI_ATTRS=y CONFIG_SPI=y CONFIG_SPI_MASTER=y # CONFIG_SPI_MEM is not set # SPI Master Controller Drivers # CONFIG_SPI_ALTERA is not set # CONFIG_SPI_AXI_SPI_ENGINE is not set # CONFIG_SPI_BITBANG is not set # CONFIG_SPI_CADENCE is not set # CONFIG_SPI_DESIGNWARE is not set # CONFIG_SPI_NXP_FLEXSPI is not set # CONFIG_SPI_GPIO is not set # CONFIG_SPI_MICROCHIP_CORE is not set # CONFIG_SPI_MICROCHIP_CORE_QSPI is not set # CONFIG_SPI_LANTIQ_SSC is not set # CONFIG_SPI_OC_TINY is not set # CONFIG_SPI_PXA2XX is not set # CONFIG_SPI_ROCKCHIP is not set # CONFIG_SPI_SC18IS602 is not set # CONFIG_SPI_SIFIVE is not set # CONFIG_SPI_MXIC is not set # CONFIG_SPI_XCOMM is not set # CONFIG_SPI_XILINX is not set # CONFIG_SPI_ZYNQMP_GQSPI is not set CONFIG_SPI_AMD=m # SPI Multiplexer support # CONFIG_SPI_MUX is not set # SPI Protocol Masters # CONFIG_SPI_SPIDEV is not set # CONFIG_SPI_LOOPBACK_TEST is not set # CONFIG_SPI_TLE62X0 is not set # CONFIG_SPI_SLAVE is not set CONFIG_SPI_DYNAMIC=y # SPI GPIO expanders # end of SPI GPIO expanders # CONFIG_SENSORS_LTC2947_SPI is not set # CONFIG_MFD_DA9052_SPI is not set # CONFIG_MFD_MC13XXX_SPI is not set # CONFIG_MFD_TPS65912_SPI is not set # CONFIG_MFD_ARIZONA_SPI is not set # CONFIG_MFD_WM831X_SPI is not set # CONFIG_SND_SPI is not set # SPI RTC drivers CONFIG_RTC_I2C_AND_SPI=y # SPI and I2C RTC drivers # CONFIG_HWSPINLOCK is not set signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature.
Michael, On Tuesday, 2023-11-28 10:13:56 +, you wrote: > ... > I suggested enabling the SPI modules because they are used by the CPU to > communicate with various sensors, adjust clock frequency between components > and thereafter to receive signals a/synchronously to control temperatures. What exactly do you suggest? My kernel (6.1.57) configuration contains: $ grep SPI /usr/src/linux/.config|grep -v SPIN CONFIG_SCSI_SPI_ATTRS=y # CONFIG_SPI is not set # SPI RTC drivers CONFIG_RTC_I2C_AND_SPI=y # SPI and I2C RTC drivers $ I played a little with the "/" and "?" commands of "make menuconfig", activated "CONFIG_SPI" and found a lot of controllers and drivers, but nothing obvious to enable additionally. However, apparently activating "CONFIG_SPI" also activated CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_ADI=y CONFIG_SND_SPI=y CONFIG_SPI_DYNAMIC=y CONFIG_SPI_MASTER=y Is this what you are suggesting? Sincerely, Rainer
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature.
On Monday, 27 November 2023 23:14:14 GMT Laurence Perkins wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Grant Edwards > > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:36 AM > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature. > > > > On 2023-11-21, Laurence Perkins wrote: > > > I have a system here running an Intel N97 processor, which is idling > > > at 70-80C on Gentoo with all cores 99% idle. This is 40 degrees > > > hotter than it runs on Ubuntu or Windows 10. > > > > > > Powertop confirms that the CPU is spending nearly all of its time in > > > idle mode. > > > > Are clock speeds being scaled down when idle? Or does the N97's "idle > > mode" preclude the need to scale down clock speed when not busy to avoid > > high temps? > That was part of my confusion, because even when I used cpupower to lock all > cores to 800MHz, it kept running hot. > > Michael's suggestion of adding the SPI modules to the kernel appears to have > fixed it. I'm not sure why the gentoo-kernel-bin that I tried didn't work > at that rate, but I'm going to have to activate the > "somebody-else's-problem" field on that one. > > LMP I suggested enabling the SPI modules because they are used by the CPU to communicate with various sensors, adjust clock frequency between components and thereafter to receive signals a/synchronously to control temperatures. Theoretically, a fail-safe system would thermally throttle, or over-cool the CPU, when any of the critical SPI signals is lost. I can't say I understand why without some temperature sensor feedback the CPU decided to overclock itself. I would have thought these days oscillator crystals or equivalent capacitor circuitry would be internal to the CPU die, so the CPU frequency control would be self-contained. Either way, this seems to have been the problem. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature.
> -Original Message- > From: Grant Edwards > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:36 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature. > > On 2023-11-21, Laurence Perkins wrote: > > > I have a system here running an Intel N97 processor, which is idling > > at 70-80C on Gentoo with all cores 99% idle. This is 40 degrees > > hotter than it runs on Ubuntu or Windows 10. > > > > Powertop confirms that the CPU is spending nearly all of its time in > > idle mode. > > Are clock speeds being scaled down when idle? Or does the N97's "idle mode" > preclude the need to scale down clock speed when not busy to avoid high temps? > > That was part of my confusion, because even when I used cpupower to lock all cores to 800MHz, it kept running hot. Michael's suggestion of adding the SPI modules to the kernel appears to have fixed it. I'm not sure why the gentoo-kernel-bin that I tried didn't work at that rate, but I'm going to have to activate the "somebody-else's-problem" field on that one. LMP
[gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature.
On 2023-11-21, Laurence Perkins wrote: > I have a system here running an Intel N97 processor, which is idling > at 70-80C on Gentoo with all cores 99% idle. This is 40 degrees > hotter than it runs on Ubuntu or Windows 10. > > Powertop confirms that the CPU is spending nearly all of its time in > idle mode. Are clock speeds being scaled down when idle? Or does the N97's "idle mode" preclude the need to scale down clock speed when not busy to avoid high temps?
