Re: [gentoo-user] Remove NetworkManager without breaking cinnamon ?

[Michael]

You should start a new thread for your topic, instead of replying to an 
existing thread to avoid messing up messages listed by thread.

Regarding your question:  Cinnamon has a hardwired dependency on 
networkmanager.  I understand you can mask the networkmanager service or 
remove it, but bits of it remain (nm-applet) and have to be disabled.  Have a 
look here:

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/555630/how-can-i-get-rid-of-the-networkmanager-applet-if-i-use-wicd

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Cinnamon#Disable_the_NetworkManager_applet


On Saturday, 14 January 2023 10:41:56 GMT mehdi chemloul wrote:
> Hi, (i'm a endUser) i try to remove NetworkManager but it's seems to
> have somes dependencies with cinnamon-control-center ? It's possible
> without break cinnamon or worst ...?
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Rumpelstilschien

[gentoo-user] Remove NetworkManager without breaking cinnamon ?

[mehdi chemloul]

Hi, (i'm a endUser) i try to remove NetworkManager but it's seems to 
have somes dependencies with cinnamon-control-center ? It's possible 
without break cinnamon or worst ...?


Cheers.

Rumpelstilschien

[gentoo-user] Remove codepoints from fonts with fontconfig

[tastytea]

Hi,
i added a colour emoji font as my last preferred font to fontconfig and
want to get all emojis from it. The problem is, that my first preferred
font contains some mono coloured emojis that override the colour emoji
font. This is my config:

  
monospace

  Source Code Pro
  Source Han Mono
  Noto Color Emoji

  

and the same for serif and sans-serif[1].

I tried to “remove” the offending codepoints from all fonts matching
*Source* like this:

  

  Source


  
charset

  0x2764 
  0x1f916 

  

  

but that only works partially. After running `fc-cache -f` the emojis
are shown correctly in xfce4-terminal and GTK 2/3 programs but not in
alacritty and Qt5 programs. Firefox gets only some of them right.
Rebooting didn't help.

Is there a way to make it work everywhere?

[1] full config:

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Michael Orlitzky]

On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 20:22 -0400, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:
> I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update
> --deep world from installing it again.
> How to do this ?
> 

1. Switch away from Mozilla products. Evolution is a great Thunderbird
alternative, and Epiphany is a passable Firefox substitute.

2a. Give up on SVG support in anything other than inkscape. The only
two standalone (i.e. outside of inkscape) SVG libraries involve rust.

2b. Add gnome-base/librsvg to package.provided, and use pre-built
binary packages[0] for any GTK icon themes you need. This isn't perfect
(a few application icons won't render), but it's livable.

3. If you use app-antivirus/clamav, the stable 0.103.x series will
remain rust-free and supported (in Gentoo) until it no longer works, or
has a security issue that isn't easy to backport. Unless you need this
for compliance reasons or for a mail server with third-party
signatures, the "good" news is that its detection rate has never been
great. You're not much worse off without it.

4a. Help the Gentoo developers by pointing out any packages that
currently depend on dev-python/cryptography (which now needs rust)
where that dependency can be made optional by a USE flag.

4b. If upstream is interested, you can try to port python packages away
from the cryptography package to something like pyNaCl.


[0]https://dilfridge.blogspot.com/2021/09/experimental-binary-gentoo-package.html

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Wols Lists]

On 12/05/2022 02:41, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:

And yes, the compile time is one of the factors in not wanting it on
my system. The second factor is a natural reaction toward feeling that
I am forced to have it.
Another reason is the growing collection of compilers and development
tools and their build time (gcc, bin-utils, llvm, clang ... etc.) and
now rust.


Tongue in cheek, but have you tried doing away with gcc, clang etc?

If you're going to use a source-based system, a bunch of compilers 
"comes with the territory".


Many people see Rust as a "better C than C", so that's why it's becoming 
popular. (Oh, and does Rust have its own compiler, or is Rust just part 
of llvm?).


The way things are going you might find all you need is the llvm 
collection, and gcc will be obsolete ...


Cheers,
Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Matt Connell]

On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 22:24 -0400, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:
> a choice would be to just go with firefox-bin if not rust-bin.

I went with rust-bin because lots of GTK programs (evince, gimp,
deluge) as well as some other miscellaneous utilities rely on librsvg
which requires rust.

So, since I need rust anyway, I just use the bin version to save
effort, but still build firefox from source in order to disable anti-
features like EME.

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Mansour Al Akeel]

Cal, like I said, gentoo has always been about choices. I am not
blaming anyone for anything. At the end of the day, it is open source,
and the work done by the community is highly appreciated.
I am sorry it was understood the other way around.

The frustration level grows when I have too many build tools that take
forever to build, and there's no way around it.

And yes, like Grant said, a choice would be to just go with
firefox-bin if not rust-bin.

Thank you all


On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 10:03 PM cal  wrote:
>
> On 5/11/22 18:41, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:
> > Miles,
> > Thank you for your response. The idea of "getting harder and harder"
> > is hard to accept. Gentoo has always been about having choice> Firefox 
> > requires rust, but is there a way to disable this ?
> > There must be another way to let the user decide if they need it or not !
> At the distribution level, sure, but the Gentoo package maintainers
> don't necessarily have the authority to control what upstream software
> developers are doing.  I continue to find it perplexing how many people
> on this list hold responsible the Gentoo packaging for the
> decision-making of upstream developers.
>
> Significant core components of Firefox are written in Rust, and have
> been for years.  Whether or not this is a good thing is in the eyes of
> the beholder, but it has nothing to do with the Gentoo packaging -- it's
> a Mozilla decision.
> >
> > And yes, the compile time is one of the factors in not wanting it on
> > my system. The second factor is a natural reaction toward feeling that
> > I am forced to have it.
> > Another reason is the growing collection of compilers and development
> > tools and their build time (gcc, bin-utils, llvm, clang ... etc.) and
> > now rust.
> >
> > Firefox itself takes a lot of time to build, and if rust is a must
> > have, then maybe it is time for me to look into something else. I know
> > there's firefox-bin, and if it doesn't need rust, then maybe it is an
> > option.
> >
> > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 8:55 PM Miles Malone
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> If your *reason* for wanting to remove rust is the compile time, bear
> >> in mind there is also a rust-bin package these days.  There are an
> >> increasingly large number of major packages that have rust as a
> >> dependency, so it's getting harder and harder to get away from.
> >> Obviously anything from the mozilla foundation, but there's a lot of
> >> others too.
> >>
> >> Miles
> >>
> >> On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 10:25, Julien Roy  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust
> >>> To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust`
> >>>
> >>> Julien
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alak...@gmail.com:
> >>>
> >>> I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update
> >>> --deep world from installing it again.
> >>> How to do this ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[cal]

On 5/11/22 18:41, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:
> Miles,
> Thank you for your response. The idea of "getting harder and harder"
> is hard to accept. Gentoo has always been about having choice> Firefox 
> requires rust, but is there a way to disable this ?
> There must be another way to let the user decide if they need it or not !
At the distribution level, sure, but the Gentoo package maintainers
don't necessarily have the authority to control what upstream software
developers are doing.  I continue to find it perplexing how many people
on this list hold responsible the Gentoo packaging for the
decision-making of upstream developers.

Significant core components of Firefox are written in Rust, and have
been for years.  Whether or not this is a good thing is in the eyes of
the beholder, but it has nothing to do with the Gentoo packaging -- it's
a Mozilla decision.
> 
> And yes, the compile time is one of the factors in not wanting it on
> my system. The second factor is a natural reaction toward feeling that
> I am forced to have it.
> Another reason is the growing collection of compilers and development
> tools and their build time (gcc, bin-utils, llvm, clang ... etc.) and
> now rust.
> 
> Firefox itself takes a lot of time to build, and if rust is a must
> have, then maybe it is time for me to look into something else. I know
> there's firefox-bin, and if it doesn't need rust, then maybe it is an
> option.
> 
> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 8:55 PM Miles Malone
>  wrote:
>>
>> If your *reason* for wanting to remove rust is the compile time, bear
>> in mind there is also a rust-bin package these days.  There are an
>> increasingly large number of major packages that have rust as a
>> dependency, so it's getting harder and harder to get away from.
>> Obviously anything from the mozilla foundation, but there's a lot of
>> others too.
>>
>> Miles
>>
>> On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 10:25, Julien Roy  wrote:
>>>
>>> You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust
>>> To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust`
>>>
>>> Julien
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alak...@gmail.com:
>>>
>>> I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update
>>> --deep world from installing it again.
>>> How to do this ?
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Mansour Al Akeel]

Thank you both Julien and Miles for your help.
I got the list I wanted, and I can go ahead with removing rust.

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 8:25 PM Julien Roy  wrote:
>
> You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust
> To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust`
>
> Julien
>
>
>
> May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alak...@gmail.com:
>
> I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update
> --deep world from installing it again.
> How to do this ?
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Mansour Al Akeel]

Miles,
Thank you for your response. The idea of "getting harder and harder"
is hard to accept. Gentoo has always been about having choices.
Firefox requires rust, but is there a way to disable this ?
There must be another way to let the user decide if they need it or not !

And yes, the compile time is one of the factors in not wanting it on
my system. The second factor is a natural reaction toward feeling that
I am forced to have it.
Another reason is the growing collection of compilers and development
tools and their build time (gcc, bin-utils, llvm, clang ... etc.) and
now rust.

Firefox itself takes a lot of time to build, and if rust is a must
have, then maybe it is time for me to look into something else. I know
there's firefox-bin, and if it doesn't need rust, then maybe it is an
option.

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 8:55 PM Miles Malone
 wrote:
>
> If your *reason* for wanting to remove rust is the compile time, bear
> in mind there is also a rust-bin package these days.  There are an
> increasingly large number of major packages that have rust as a
> dependency, so it's getting harder and harder to get away from.
> Obviously anything from the mozilla foundation, but there's a lot of
> others too.
>
> Miles
>
> On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 10:25, Julien Roy  wrote:
> >
> > You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust
> > To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust`
> >
> > Julien
> >
> >
> >
> > May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alak...@gmail.com:
> >
> > I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update
> > --deep world from installing it again.
> > How to do this ?
> >
> >
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Miles Malone]

If your *reason* for wanting to remove rust is the compile time, bear
in mind there is also a rust-bin package these days.  There are an
increasingly large number of major packages that have rust as a
dependency, so it's getting harder and harder to get away from.
Obviously anything from the mozilla foundation, but there's a lot of
others too.

Miles

On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 10:25, Julien Roy  wrote:
>
> You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust
> To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust`
>
> Julien
>
>
>
> May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alak...@gmail.com:
>
> I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update
> --deep world from installing it again.
> How to do this ?
>
>

[gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Mansour Al Akeel]

I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update
--deep world from installing it again.
How to do this ?

Re: [gentoo-user] remove from list please

[Corentin “Nado” Pazdera]

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[gentoo-user] remove from list please

[chin chong]

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Heiko Baums]

Am Wed, 13 Sep 2017 09:48:57 +0200
schrieb Raffaele Belardi :

> I might give Xfce a try. I did not find any definitive resource on the
> web stating that LXDE is dead. There are some recent commits on the
> sourceforge repo so it looks still alive (although not kickin').

I guess I wasn't quite up to date.

That's what http://lxqt.org/about/ says:

"Historically, LXQt is the product of the merge between LXDE-Qt, an
initial Qt flavour of LXDE, and Razor-qt, a project aiming to develop a
Qt based desktop environment with similar objectives as the current
LXQt. LXQt was first supposed to become the successor of LXDE one day
but as of 09/2016 both desktop environments will keep coexisting for
the time being."

Nevertheless I like Xfce better, mainly because in my opinion it has
more and better panel add-ons and it feels slightly better. But, like I
said, it's just a matter of taste.

> Probably I was using the same here, thanks for reminding me.

You're welcome.

> I used xdm (although it looks ugly) because I need a DM that updates
> the wtmp file and lxdm was not. Do you know if slim/lightdm support
> it? I did some research at the time but I forgot.

They both do it.

With slim you need to add these two lines into your /etc/slim.conf:
sessionstart_cmd/usr/bin/sessreg -a -l $DISPLAY %user
sessionstop_cmd /usr/bin/sessreg -d -l $DISPLAY %user

But if I recall correctly this was already added by default on
Gentoo. But it's possible that I had to add them myself and just forgot
it.

I haven't tested lightdm on Gentoo, yet. But on my Raspberry Pi on
which I currently run Arch Linux (despite systemd) it does it
out-of-the-box. On Debian based Distributions there seems to be a bug.

Heiko

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Raffaele Belardi]

On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 23:20 +0200, Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:55:22 +0200
> schrieb Raffaele Belardi :
> 
> > 2. emerge -C gnome networkmanager
> 
> You don't need to uninstall networkmanager except you want to
> uninstall
> it for some other reasons. It doesn't need gnome or systemd.

Right. It's only personal preferences (startup scripts are plain enough
here, no need for dynamic reconfiguration).

> 
> > 5. emerge -N lxde-meta
> 
> I'd prefer Xfce, but that's a matter of taste. As far as I know LXDE
> isn't developed any more in favor of LXQt.

I might give Xfce a try. I did not find any definitive resource on the
web stating that LXDE is dead. There are some recent commits on the
sourceforge repo so it looks still alive (although not kickin').

> 
> > 6. emerge -N xdm openrc anacron sysklogd sysvinit
> 
> You don't need to install sysvinit explicitly. It's a dependency of
> openrc.
> 
> Instead of anacron I'd suggest fcron. It has all the features of both
> cron and anacron.

That was a mistake on my part, actually I was using vixie-cron. It's a
24/7 online machine.

> 
> Instead of sysklogd I would use syslog-ng. I don't remember the
> reasons.

Probably I was using the same here, thanks for reminding me.

> Instead of xdm you'd better try slim or lightdm. Lightdm doesn't need
> systemd either, except if you want to use multiseat with it.

I used xdm (although it looks ugly) because I need a DM that updates
the wtmp file and lxdm was not. Do you know if slim/lightdm support it?
I did some research at the time but I forgot.

> 
> Then you should replace udev by eudev and put USE="-gnome -systemd"
> into your USE flags in /etc/portage/make.conf.
> 
> Just to be absolutely sure put this line into
> your /etc/portage/make.conf, too:
> INSTALL_MASK="/lib/systemd /lib32/systemd /lib64/systemd
> /usr/lib/systemd /usr/lib32/systemd /usr/lib64/systemd /etc/systemd"
> 
> Heiko
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Raffaele Belardi]

On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 18:31 +0200, Nils Freydank wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 12. September 2017, 17:55:22 CEST schrieb Raffaele
> Belardi:
> > After several months of Gnome3 I decided it is too heavy for my old
> > workstation and would like to go back to LXDE. The flow could be:
> > 
> > 1. rebuild kernel with openRC support and install
> > 2. emerge -C gnome networkmanager
> > 3. emerge -C systemd
> > 4. change profile to generic desktop (non-Gnome)
> > 5. emerge -N lxde-meta
> > 6. emerge -N xdm openrc anacron sysklogd sysvinit
> > 7. reboot
> > 
> > I doubt it will be this easy... anything I'm missing, suggestions?
> 
> Hi, I’d run it a bit differently:
> - change profile
> - force-remove gnome (emerge -aC)
> - double checking USE flags and updating @world as usual
> - cleanup (emerge --ask --verbose --clean)

Isn't cleanup better performed by emerge --depclean?

Won't emerge --depclean be confused if I change profile before running
it? I'd expect it to check the USE flags before deciding to remove a
package so if I change profile beforehand it will base decision on
wrong assumptions. But I'm not at all sure about this, does anybody
have an opinion?

> - install services that aren’t already installed as a dep (maybe
> anacron or ntpd/chrony)
> - Adding the services to appropriate runlevels (e.g. rc-update add
> xdm default)
> 
> - If necessary, replacing udev with eudev. I don’t remember if it got
> changed automatically
> a while ago on one of my systems due the switch.
> 
> If you didn’t explicitly removed OpenRC you have it already
> installed, (removal is possible though),
> and sysvinit gets pulled in by OpenRC ;-)
> 
> BTW, I personally like elogind (a standalone "cut off" of systemd-
> logind) and can suggest it
> as a surrogate for consolekit2. Support by the upstream is incredible
> fast.

I'll check this. I confess consolekit is one of those packages that got
installed somehow but I never did any configuration or study about it
(i.e. I don't know why it's there...)

> 
> Have fun :)
> Nils
> > thanks,
> > 
> > raffaele
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Daniel Campbell]

On 09/12/2017 03:07 PM, Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:28:40 -0400
> schrieb Mike Gilbert :
> 
>> I would advise against this INSTALL_MASK setting. It is quite likely
>> to break things (like sys-fs/udev).
> 
> No, it's not.
> 
> I'd consider it a bug if systemd is not installed and
> another package that doesn't depend on systemd relies on something that
> is installed in a systemd subdirectory.
> 
> And for me nothing was broken since several years now.
> 
> And, like I said, I'm using eudev instead of udev.
> 
> Heiko
> 
You may be using eudev (and thus don't need to worry about it), but if a
person blindly copies that into their make.conf and sys-fs/udev breaks,
they'll get to keep the pieces because they deliberately screwed
themselves. It's not a use case we can support. It doesn't mean
INSTALL_MASK is always a bad idea; it's simply meant to be used by
people who are fully aware of its effects.

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Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Heiko Baums]

Am Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:28:40 -0400
schrieb Mike Gilbert :

> I would advise against this INSTALL_MASK setting. It is quite likely
> to break things (like sys-fs/udev).

No, it's not.

I'd consider it a bug if systemd is not installed and
another package that doesn't depend on systemd relies on something that
is installed in a systemd subdirectory.

And for me nothing was broken since several years now.

And, like I said, I'm using eudev instead of udev.

Heiko

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Mike Gilbert]

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Heiko Baums  wrote:
> Just to be absolutely sure put this line into
> your /etc/portage/make.conf, too:
> INSTALL_MASK="/lib/systemd /lib32/systemd /lib64/systemd /usr/lib/systemd 
> /usr/lib32/systemd /usr/lib64/systemd /etc/systemd"

I would advise against this INSTALL_MASK setting. It is quite likely
to break things (like sys-fs/udev).

Its only value is to give a warm and fuzzy feeling to people who have
an irrational hatred of systemd.

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Heiko Baums]

Am Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:55:22 +0200
schrieb Raffaele Belardi :

> 2. emerge -C gnome networkmanager

You don't need to uninstall networkmanager except you want to uninstall
it for some other reasons. It doesn't need gnome or systemd.

> 5. emerge -N lxde-meta

I'd prefer Xfce, but that's a matter of taste. As far as I know LXDE
isn't developed any more in favor of LXQt.

> 6. emerge -N xdm openrc anacron sysklogd sysvinit

You don't need to install sysvinit explicitly. It's a dependency of
openrc.

Instead of anacron I'd suggest fcron. It has all the features of both
cron and anacron.

Instead of sysklogd I would use syslog-ng. I don't remember the reasons.

Instead of xdm you'd better try slim or lightdm. Lightdm doesn't need
systemd either, except if you want to use multiseat with it.

Then you should replace udev by eudev and put USE="-gnome -systemd"
into your USE flags in /etc/portage/make.conf.

Just to be absolutely sure put this line into
your /etc/portage/make.conf, too:
INSTALL_MASK="/lib/systemd /lib32/systemd /lib64/systemd /usr/lib/systemd 
/usr/lib32/systemd /usr/lib64/systemd /etc/systemd"

Heiko

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Nils Freydank]

Am Dienstag, 12. September 2017, 17:55:22 CEST schrieb Raffaele Belardi:
> After several months of Gnome3 I decided it is too heavy for my old
> workstation and would like to go back to LXDE. The flow could be:
> 
> 1. rebuild kernel with openRC support and install
> 2. emerge -C gnome networkmanager
> 3. emerge -C systemd
> 4. change profile to generic desktop (non-Gnome)
> 5. emerge -N lxde-meta
> 6. emerge -N xdm openrc anacron sysklogd sysvinit
> 7. reboot
> 
> I doubt it will be this easy... anything I'm missing, suggestions?
Hi, I’d run it a bit differently:
- change profile
- force-remove gnome (emerge -aC)
- double checking USE flags and updating @world as usual
- cleanup (emerge --ask --verbose --clean)
- install services that aren’t already installed as a dep (maybe anacron or 
ntpd/chrony)
- Adding the services to appropriate runlevels (e.g. rc-update add xdm default)

- If necessary, replacing udev with eudev. I don’t remember if it got changed 
automatically
a while ago on one of my systems due the switch.

If you didn’t explicitly removed OpenRC you have it already installed, (removal 
is possible though),
and sysvinit gets pulled in by OpenRC ;-)

BTW, I personally like elogind (a standalone "cut off" of systemd-logind) and 
can suggest it
as a surrogate for consolekit2. Support by the upstream is incredible fast.

Have fun :)
Nils
> thanks,
> 
> raffaele

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[gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Raffaele Belardi]

After several months of Gnome3 I decided it is too heavy for my old
workstation and would like to go back to LXDE. The flow could be:

1. rebuild kernel with openRC support and install
2. emerge -C gnome networkmanager
3. emerge -C systemd
4. change profile to generic desktop (non-Gnome)
5. emerge -N lxde-meta  
6. emerge -N xdm openrc anacron sysklogd sysvinit
7. reboot

I doubt it will be this easy... anything I'm missing, suggestions?

thanks,

raffaele

[gentoo-user] Remove default 'gentoo' repo in repos.conf

[Alex Crawford]

Hello everyone,

I am attempting to remove the default 'gentoo' repository definition from
my list of repositories. Even though I am using a custom repos.conf in
/etc/portage, I see that portage is including the default 'gentoo' entry
from /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf. Is there any way I can indicate
in /etc/portage/repos.conf to remove the 'gentoo' repository? Thanks.

-Alex

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove default 'gentoo' repo in repos.conf

[Tom Wijsman]

On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 12:42:42 -0700
Alex Crawford alex.crawf...@coreos.com wrote:

 I am attempting to remove the default 'gentoo' repository definition
 from my list of repositories. Even though I am using a custom
 repos.conf in /etc/portage, I see that portage is including the
 default 'gentoo' entry from /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf. Is
 there any way I can indicate in /etc/portage/repos.conf to remove the
 'gentoo' repository? Thanks.

For a temporary solution, make /usr/portage as empty as possible; for a
more permanent solution, I'd suggest to look at how Gentoo forks do
this. Though I think that most of the forks still use the Portage tree;
so, it might be hard to find what you are looking for.

You can also put /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf in CONFIG_PROTECT
and adjust it there; put a symlink in /etc for convenience, such that
you won't forget about it when scanning through /etc config files.

-- 
With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

E-mail address  : tom...@gentoo.org
GPG Public Key  : 6D34E57D
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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove default 'gentoo' repo in repos.conf

[Alex Crawford]

Thanks for the suggestions. I'd rather not modify
/usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf if I can help it and /usr/portage is
completely empty in my installation. I've been toying around with adding a
'deleted' attribute to the repository section. I'll start a discussion in
the portage dev channel.

-Alex


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote:

 On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 12:42:42 -0700
 Alex Crawford alex.crawf...@coreos.com wrote:

  I am attempting to remove the default 'gentoo' repository definition
  from my list of repositories. Even though I am using a custom
  repos.conf in /etc/portage, I see that portage is including the
  default 'gentoo' entry from /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf. Is
  there any way I can indicate in /etc/portage/repos.conf to remove the
  'gentoo' repository? Thanks.

 For a temporary solution, make /usr/portage as empty as possible; for a
 more permanent solution, I'd suggest to look at how Gentoo forks do
 this. Though I think that most of the forks still use the Portage tree;
 so, it might be hard to find what you are looking for.

 You can also put /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf in CONFIG_PROTECT
 and adjust it there; put a symlink in /etc for convenience, such that
 you won't forget about it when scanning through /etc config files.

 --
 With kind regards,

 Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
 Gentoo Developer

 E-mail address  : tom...@gentoo.org
 GPG Public Key  : 6D34E57D
 GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2  ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

[gentoo-user] remove fancy framebuffer on boot

[Tami King]

Hello,

I have a new laptop and when it boots after the initial start up the
output goes from a larger text to something very small with the penguins
displayed. My desktop doesn't do this and I am pretty sure that I shut
if off there and I don't remember what I did and my searches haven't
turned up anything useful at this point. If I don't want framebuffer
with the images and small text, what do I need to do to get rid of it?

Thanks,
Tami

Re: [gentoo-user] remove fancy framebuffer on boot

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Samstag, 27. Oktober 2012, 11:22:08 schrieb Tami King:
 Hello,
 
 I have a new laptop and when it boots after the initial start up the
 output goes from a larger text to something very small with the penguins
 displayed. My desktop doesn't do this and I am pretty sure that I shut
 if off there and I don't remember what I did and my searches haven't
 turned up anything useful at this point. If I don't want framebuffer
 with the images and small text, what do I need to do to get rid of it?
 
 Thanks,
 Tami

no framebuffer?

-- 
#163933

Re: [gentoo-user] remove fancy framebuffer on boot

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:22:08 -0500, Tami King wrote:

 I have a new laptop and when it boots after the initial start up the
 output goes from a larger text to something very small with the penguins
 displayed.


That sounds like kernel modesetting (KMS), disable it by adding nomodeset
to the kernel parameters.


-- 
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[gentoo-user] Remove

[Robert Herr]

On 7/6/12 2:05 AM, gentoo-user+h...@lists.gentoo.org wrote:

Topics (messages 139628 through 139677):

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Laptop Looks to be Trashed
   139628 - Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Laptop Looks to be Trashed
   139629 - Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net

[gentoo-user] Failed to emerge Spamassassin
   139630 - David Abbott da...@pythontoo.com

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Laptop Looks to be Trashed
   139631 - Ric de France rdefra...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Suspend, hibernate and mount stopped working as a regular user.
   139632 - Yohan Pereira yohan.pere...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Suspend, hibernate and mount stopped working as a regular user.
   139633 - Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org

[gentoo-user] Suspend, hibernate and mount stopped working as a regular user.
   139634 - Yohan Pereira yohan.pere...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Re: genkernel 3.3.8 fails to build initramfs
   139635 - Kenny Cheng kenny97821...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.
   139636 - Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org

[gentoo-user] Wrong font displayed in opera
   139637 - Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo install script
   139638 - Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Wrong font displayed in opera
   139639 - Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Wrong font displayed in opera
   139640 - Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo install script
   139641 - Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo install script
   139642 - Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
   139645 - Philipp Riegger li...@anderedomain.de

[gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
   139646 - William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au

[gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
   139647 - Philipp Riegger li...@anderedomain.de

[gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
   139648 - Philipp Riegger li...@anderedomain.de

[gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
   139649 - William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.
   139650 - Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at

[gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
   139651 - Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org

[gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
   139652 - Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu

[gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
   139653 - William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au

[gentoo-user] Why sources 3.2.21 in emerge -vuDp world
   139654 - Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com

[gentoo-user] [HEADSUP] New udev-186 breaks pulseaudio
   139655 - Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Why sources 3.2.21 in emerge -vuDp world
   139656 - Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Why sources 3.2.21 in emerge -vuDp world
   139657 - Graham Murray gra...@gmurray.org.uk

[gentoo-user] [HEADSUP] New udev-186 breaks pulseaudio
   139658 - Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk

[gentoo-user] GRUB2 migration
   139659 - James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com

[gentoo-user] [HEADSUP] New udev-186 breaks pulseaudio
   139660 - Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net

[gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
   139661 - Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com
   139672 - walt w41...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Linux and the Higgs
   139662 - Frank Peters frank.pet...@comcast.net

[gentoo-user] Re: Linux and the Higgs
   139663 - Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
   139664 - Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org

[gentoo-user] Is there a Gentoo Expert in NYC?
   139665 - Dmitry Goncharov dgoncha...@users.sf.net

[gentoo-user] Is there a Gentoo Expert in NYC?
   139666 - Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org

[gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
   139667 - Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
   139668 - Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org

[gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
   139670 - Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
   139671 - Alecks Gates aleck...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
   139673 - Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
   139674 - Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org

[gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
   139675 - Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list
   139676 - Nilesh Govindrajan cont...@nileshgr.com

[gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list
   139677 - Bill Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove

[Neil Bothwick]

On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 07:35:23 -0400, Robert Herr wrote:

 On 7/6/12 2:05 AM, gentoo-user+h...@lists.gentoo.org wrote:
  Topics (messages 139628 through 139677):
[massive snip]

This list is for two type of people:

Those who can read documentation well enough to be able to enjoy Gentoo.

Those who cannot read documentation well enough to be able to unsubscribe


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove

[Mick]

On Friday 06 Jul 2012 21:28:08 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 07:35:23 -0400, Robert Herr wrote:
  On 7/6/12 2:05 AM, gentoo-user+h...@lists.gentoo.org wrote:
   Topics (messages 139628 through 139677):
 [massive snip]
 
 This list is for two type of people:
 
 Those who can read documentation well enough to be able to enjoy Gentoo.
 
 Those who cannot read documentation well enough to be able to unsubscribe

LOL!

It seems they can't even read the instructions in the headers of the message 
...

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[gentoo-user] remove bookmarks in pdf [was renumber pages]

[luis jure]

on 2011-04-02 at 19:38 Willie Wong wrote:

look at app-text/pdfjam

hi, thanks for the suggestion, although i couldn't find any command
appropriate to what i want to do.

BTW, i have another one: how to remove all bookmarks form a pdf? (from the
command line, i mean)

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Frank Steinmetzger]

On Wednesday 15 December 2010 19:24:22 Pau Peris wrote:

 n=`wc -l /var/lib/portage/world|awk '{ print $1 }'`;
 for i in `seq 1 $n`;do
 pkg=`cat /var/lib/portage/world|head -n$i|tail -n1`;
 echo -e Packages depending on $pkg.  /tmp/auditWorldFile.log
 equery d $pkg  /tmp/auditWorldFile.log
 echo -e   /tmp/auditWorldFile.log
 done;

or without the counting loop:

while read pkg; do
echo 
done  /var/lib/portage/world

;-)
-- 
Gruß | Greetings | Qapla'
Beamy, Scot me up!

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Pau Peris]

The following lines creates an auditWorldFile.log log file which will
show packages requires by other packages, so theones you can safely
remove.


#!/bin/bash

n=`wc -l /var/lib/portage/world|awk '{ print $1 }'`;
for i in `seq 1 $n`;do
pkg=`cat /var/lib/portage/world|head -n$i|tail -n1`;
echo -e Packages depending on $pkg.  /tmp/auditWorldFile.log
equery d $pkg  /tmp/auditWorldFile.log
echo -e   /tmp/auditWorldFile.log
done;


2010/12/8 Johannes Kimmel johannes.kim...@gmx.de:
 On 12/08/2010 12:23 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

 Hi,

 does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
 /var/lib/portage/world
 which would have been pulled in anyway
 even if they were not contained in world.

 My current attempt would be to write a script
 which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
 If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.

 Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.

 Many thanks for a hint,
 Helmut.



 Hi,

 I wanted to add, that a minimal world in my opinion isn't always what you
 want. For example in the time I searched for a suitable window manager for
 me I did a lot of depclean these days and accidently removed the xserver.
 There was no harm done, but I figured, that my world file should contain all
 packages, that should never removed automatically unless I want to. This way
 there is a little less danger involved using depclean. So this type of work
 might only be done by hand.

 Johannes Kimmel

[gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Helmut Jarausch]

Hi,

does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
/var/lib/portage/world
which would have been pulled in anyway
even if they were not contained in world.

My current attempt would be to write a script
which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.

Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.

Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Matthew Summers]

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
 Hi,

 does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
 /var/lib/portage/world
 which would have been pulled in anyway
 even if they were not contained in world.

 My current attempt would be to write a script
 which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
 If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.

 Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.

 Many thanks for a hint,
 Helmut.



You may find that using 'emerge --deselect some-package' to be what
you need. It removeds the file from your world file, but does not
unmerge the package. That command switch is the functional opposite of
--noreplace.

I think you will find a wealth of information in the manpage for
emerge. Happy reading!

-- 
Matthew W. Summers

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 12/08/10 14:40:56, Matthew Summers wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch
 jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
  /var/lib/portage/world
  which would have been pulled in anyway
  even if they were not contained in world.
 
  My current attempt would be to write a script
  which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
  If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.
 
  Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.
 
  Many thanks for a hint,
  Helmut.
 
 
 
 You may find that using 'emerge --deselect some-package' to be what
 you need. It removeds the file from your world file, but does not
 unmerge the package. That command switch is the functional opposite 
 of
 --noreplace.
 
 I think you will find a wealth of information in the manpage for
 emerge. Happy reading!

Sorry, but I still don't see it.
The main question is which packages might be removed
from 'world'?

Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
 Hi,

 does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
 /var/lib/portage/world
 which would have been pulled in anyway
 even if they were not contained in world.

 My current attempt would be to write a script
 which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
 If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.

 Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.

 Many thanks for a hint,
 Helmut.



In my experience the world file isn't huge - 50-100 lines - but only
if it contains the things that really need to be there. I've simply
commented out specific entries and run emerge -pvDuN @world to
determine if the entry wasn't necessary, and if it wasn't then removed
it. When I've boiled it down to things that need to be there (I.e. - I
can still run emerge -pvDuN @world and there would be no changes) then
I run emerge - p --depclean to look at what can be removed, make sure
it's OK, and then run depclean for real.

Hope this helps,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 17:22 on Wednesday 08 December 2010, Helmut 
Jarausch did opine thusly:

 On 12/08/10 14:40:56, Matthew Summers wrote:
  On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch
  
  jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
   Hi,
   
   does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
   /var/lib/portage/world
   which would have been pulled in anyway
   even if they were not contained in world.
   
   My current attempt would be to write a script
   which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
   If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.
   
   Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.
   
   Many thanks for a hint,
   Helmut.
  
  You may find that using 'emerge --deselect some-package' to be what
  you need. It removeds the file from your world file, but does not
  unmerge the package. That command switch is the functional opposite
  of
  --noreplace.
  
  I think you will find a wealth of information in the manpage for
  emerge. Happy reading!
 
 Sorry, but I still don't see it.
 The main question is which packages might be removed
 from 'world'?


Your tools for this are two eyeballs and a brain. World gets bloated when 
users emerge libs and apps blindly that are covered by other packages and -
meta ebuilds (avoid this with emerge -1)

Edit the world file and remove everything you think might not be needed. Leave 
only apps you know for sure you need and want. Then run emerge -p --depclean 
which may or may not want to remove stuff. Inspect the list and add important 
stuff back into world with emerge -n. Repeat until --depclean returns null 
output.

eix-test-obsolete also gives useful clues about redundant world entries, but 
not in a clearly laid out section like you are after. I know of no app that 
does that.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Albert Hopkins]

On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 07:57 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch
 jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
  /var/lib/portage/world
  which would have been pulled in anyway
  even if they were not contained in world.
 
  My current attempt would be to write a script
  which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
  If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.
 
  Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.
 
  Many thanks for a hint,
  Helmut.
 
 
 
 In my experience the world file isn't huge - 50-100 lines - but only
 if it contains the things that really need to be there. I've simply
 commented out specific entries and run emerge -pvDuN @world to
 determine if the entry wasn't necessary, and if it wasn't then removed
 it. When I've boiled it down to things that need to be there (I.e. - I
 can still run emerge -pvDuN @world and there would be no changes) then
 I run emerge - p --depclean to look at what can be removed, make sure
 it's OK, and then run depclean for real.

I have a script I used to locate redudancies in the world file.  It
requires gentoolkit.  It basically looks at packages in world that have
reverse dependencies also in world (but only goes one level deep).  Just

# auditworld  /var/lib/portage/world

http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Daniel Pielmeier]

Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de:
 Hi,

 does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
 /var/lib/portage/world
 which would have been pulled in anyway
 even if they were not contained in world.

 My current attempt would be to write a script
 which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
 If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.

 Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.

As far as I know there is currently no tool available for something like this.

I have a skript which runs emerge -pv --depclean for every entry in
world. If depclean returns reverse dependencies the package in
question is redundant in world. It takes quite some time but works
reliable. There are false positives for packages with PDEPENDS, but
you will recognize this when emerge -pv --depclean wants to remove
packages which you want to keep afterwards and you can add them back
manually.

Another method would be removing the world file (backup before) and
run the regenworld script afterwards. The result is not really minimal
so there will still be redundant entries.

I asked the portage maintainer about such a tool, as it would be best
if it uses the portage API to speed things up. He didn't not see the
point of such a script but thought about writing something which
creates a minimal word file. If you want such a functionality I
recommend to open a bug about it.

-- 
Daniel Pielmeier

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Stroller]

On 8/12/2010, at 4:11pm, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 ...
 I have a script I used to locate redudancies in the world file.  It
 requires gentoolkit.  It basically looks at packages in world that have
 reverse dependencies also in world (but only goes one level deep).  Just
 
 # auditworld  /var/lib/portage/world
 
 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/

I think this only works on ~ARCH, right?

On x86 I get:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./auditworld, line 20, in module
import gentoolkit.sets
ImportError: No module named sets

Stroller

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Albert Hopkins]

On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 16:28 +, Stroller wrote:

  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/
 
 I think this only works on ~ARCH, right?
 
 On x86 I get:
 
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File ./auditworld, line 20, in module
 import gentoolkit.sets
 ImportError: No module named sets
 

... probaby.  I have an older (untested) version you can try:

http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302309/

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 12/08/10 17:11:58, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 I have a script I used to locate redudancies in the world file.  It
 requires gentoolkit.  It basically looks at packages in world that
 have
 reverse dependencies also in world (but only goes one level deep). 
 Just
 
 # auditworld  /var/lib/portage/world
 
 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/

Many thanks, I've updated it a bit to generate a new world
file (using python3)
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302337/
One should have a look at the diffs (e.g. meld) before replacing
the old world file.

Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Kevin O'Gorman]

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.ukwrote:


 On 8/12/2010, at 4:11pm, Albert Hopkins wrote:
  ...
  I have a script I used to locate redudancies in the world file.  It
  requires gentoolkit.  It basically looks at packages in world that have
  reverse dependencies also in world (but only goes one level deep).  Just
 
  # auditworld  /var/lib/portage/world
 
  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/

 I think this only works on ~ARCH, right?

 On x86 I get:

 Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./auditworld, line 20, in module
import gentoolkit.sets
 ImportError: No module named set


Are you sure it's even it gentoolkit?  I have that but no auditworld on x86.
It's not in gentoolkit-dev either.

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Sebastian Beßler]

Are you sure it's even it gentoolkit?  I have that but no auditworld on x86.
It's not in gentoolkit-dev either.


It's not IN gentoolkit, it NEEDS gentoolkit.

It is here: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/

Greetings

Sebastian Beßler

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:22:13 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

 Sorry, but I still don't see it.
 The main question is which packages might be removed
 from 'world'?

If you don't use it directly, it should probably be removed - so lib* for
a start. Then run emerge --depclean -p and see what would be uninstalled.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

I have a mind like a steel...uh...thingamajig...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

[Johannes Kimmel]

On 12/08/2010 12:23 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

Hi,

does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
/var/lib/portage/world
which would have been pulled in anyway
even if they were not contained in world.

My current attempt would be to write a script
which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.

Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.

Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.




Hi,

I wanted to add, that a minimal world in my opinion isn't always what 
you want. For example in the time I searched for a suitable window 
manager for me I did a lot of depclean these days and accidently removed 
the xserver. There was no harm done, but I figured, that my world file 
should contain all packages, that should never removed automatically 
unless I want to. This way there is a little less danger involved using 
depclean. So this type of work might only be done by hand.


Johannes Kimmel

Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:22:19 -0600, Dale wrote:

  True but if the OP hasn't cleaned his before, he may very well have a
  lot of cleaning to do as well.  I clean mine every few months and it
  still has some size to the output.
 
  That's why I run it every week :)

 You got to much time on your hands.  You need better things to do.  lol

:-)

When maintaining a Gentoo system, little and often usually take less time
in the ling run. I get emailed the results of eix-test-obsolete,
revdep-rebuild -p  and a couple of other checks from each computer each
week. Most weeks I just scan the mails and move on as nothing is
reported. Occasionally I remove a line or two from /etc/portage/*, which
is far less work than trying to decipher the mess after leaving it for
several months.


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Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

[Neil Bothwick]

On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:11:49 -0600, Dale wrote:

 eix-test-obsolete
 
 Be prepared for a LONG list tho.  It prints a LOT on mine.

That just means you have a lot of cleaning up to do :P


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Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

[Dale]

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:

On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:11:49 -0600, Dale wrote:

   

eix-test-obsolete

Be prepared for a LONG list tho.  It prints a LOT on mine.
 

That just means you have a lot of cleaning up to do :P

   


True but if the OP hasn't cleaned his before, he may very well have a 
lot of cleaning to do as well.  I clean mine every few months and it 
still has some size to the output.  It just depends on how much as went 
stable since adding a package to one or more of those files.


It is handy tho.  I'm glad someone wrote that little program.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:01:47 -0600, Dale wrote:

  That just means you have a lot of cleaning up to do :P

 True but if the OP hasn't cleaned his before, he may very well have a 
 lot of cleaning to do as well.  I clean mine every few months and it 
 still has some size to the output.

That's why I run it every week :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

[Dale]

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On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:01:47 -0600, Dale wrote:

   

That just means you have a lot of cleaning up to do :P
   
   

True but if the OP hasn't cleaned his before, he may very well have a
lot of cleaning to do as well.  I clean mine every few months and it
still has some size to the output.
 

That's why I run it every week :)

   


You got to much time on your hands.  You need better things to do.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)

[gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

[Crístian Viana]

hi,

I'd like to remove unneeded entries on package.keywords and I was wondering
if there's some program to do that (or if it's a good idea for me to try to
do it :) ). for example, I may have:

=www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.6

but later (hopefully) this package will be unmasked and that entry becomes
totally useless. and I may also unmask an ebuild without a version, and some
time later this ebuild will have no keyworded version, so that
package.keywords entry will be useless too.

see you,

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

[Dale]

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:

hi,

I'd like to remove unneeded entries on package.keywords and I was 
wondering if there's some program to do that (or if it's a good idea 
for me to try to do it :) ). for example, I may have:


=www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.6

but later (hopefully) this package will be unmasked and that entry 
becomes totally useless. and I may also unmask an ebuild without a 
version, and some time later this ebuild will have no keyworded 
version, so that package.keywords entry will be useless too.


see you,

--
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This should work.

eix-test-obsolete

Be prepared for a LONG list tho.  It prints a LOT on mine.  I would also 
recommend you save a copy of those files just in case.


Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

[Fab]

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 21:56:43 -0200
Crístian Viana wrote:
 for example, I may have:
 
 =www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.6
 
 but later (hopefully) this package will be unmasked and that entry
 becomes totally useless. 

# emerge eix
# eix-test-obsolete -d

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?

[Mark Knecht]

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Jacob Toddjaketodd...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:41:51PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 I was updating my wife's machine today and noticed that there are a
 number of older/stranded gcc-config's left on the machine. I still
 have gcc-4.1.2 but the other 3.3/3.4 versions should not remain.

 How would I remove these?

 Thanks,
 Mark

 dragonfly ~ # gcc-config -l
  [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.3
  [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4
  [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened
  [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie
  [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp
  [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp
  [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2
  [8] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 *
 dragonfly ~ #


 emerge -C =cat/pack-ver

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 // If it isn't broke, tweak it!


So far I've been unable to get this working. Tried to Google around
for more info on this but found nothing so possibly it's just a
spelling problem I haven't figured out?

I've finished updating the machine and this is one of the last things
I'd like to take care of. No rush. Doesn't hurt anything that they are
there, but would be nice to clean up.

Thanks,
Mark

dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =cat/pack-ver
!!! '=cat/pack-ver' is not a valid package atom.
!!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details.
dragonfly ~ #

dragonfly ~ # eix pack-ver
No matches found.
dragonfly ~ #

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?

[Willie Wong]

On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 01:03:39PM -0700, Penguin Lover Mark Knecht squawked:
 dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =cat/pack-ver
 !!! '=cat/pack-ver' is not a valid package atom.
 !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details.
 dragonfly ~ #
 
 dragonfly ~ # eix pack-ver
 No matches found.
 dragonfly ~ #

The OP meant cat as in category, pack as in package name and ver
as in version. You are supposed to supply the correct package and
version and category for the command. 

For example, to unmerge gcc-4.3.0 would be

emerge --unmerge =sys-devel/gcc-4.3.0

substitute the package you want to remove as applicable. 

W

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?

[Mark Knecht]

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Willie Wongww...@math.princeton.edu wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 01:03:39PM -0700, Penguin Lover Mark Knecht squawked:
 dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =cat/pack-ver
 !!! '=cat/pack-ver' is not a valid package atom.
 !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details.
 dragonfly ~ #

 dragonfly ~ # eix pack-ver
 No matches found.
 dragonfly ~ #

 The OP meant cat as in category, pack as in package name and ver
 as in version. You are supposed to supply the correct package and
 version and category for the command.

 For example, to unmerge gcc-4.3.0 would be

 emerge --unmerge =sys-devel/gcc-4.3.0

 substitute the package you want to remove as applicable.

 W

Please Willie, that's too obvious and was attempted before I posted
the first time. ;-)

I repeat that the suggestion from Jacob doesn't work:

dragonfly ~ # gcc-config -l
 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.3
 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4
 [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened
 [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie
 [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp
 [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp
 [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 *
dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4

 These are the packages that would be unmerged:

--- Couldn't find '=sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4' to unmerge.

 No packages selected for removal by unmerge
dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =sys-devel/gcc-3.3.3

 These are the packages that would be unmerged:

--- Couldn't find '=sys-devel/gcc-3.3.3' to unmerge.

 No packages selected for removal by unmerge
dragonfly ~ #

Again as history, I first noticed this issue when emerging gcc-4.3.2.
I had 4.1.2 on the system, in use, as well as these old line items in
gcc-config. Once I had rebuilt the system with 4.3.2 I did an emerge
-C =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 and got rid of that one both from the system
and this list, but this thread was about 'stranded' options which are
the 3.3.3 and 3.4.4 selections.

Are these options held in a file somewhere that can be edited by hand?
Is there some option to gcc-config that can clean them up?

Thanks,
Mark

[gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?

[Mark Knecht]

I was updating my wife's machine today and noticed that there are a
number of older/stranded gcc-config's left on the machine. I still
have gcc-4.1.2 but the other 3.3/3.4 versions should not remain.

How would I remove these?

Thanks,
Mark

dragonfly ~ # gcc-config -l
 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.3
 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4
 [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened
 [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie
 [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp
 [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp
 [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2
 [8] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 *
dragonfly ~ #

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?

[Jacob Todd]

On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:41:51PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 I was updating my wife's machine today and noticed that there are a
 number of older/stranded gcc-config's left on the machine. I still
 have gcc-4.1.2 but the other 3.3/3.4 versions should not remain.
 
 How would I remove these?
 
 Thanks,
 Mark
 
 dragonfly ~ # gcc-config -l
  [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.3
  [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4
  [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened
  [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie
  [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp
  [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp
  [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2
  [8] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 *
 dragonfly ~ #
 

emerge -C =cat/pack-ver

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[gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?

[KH]

Hi,

I am searching for the opposite of emerge --noreplace atom. I forgot
-1 and now the package is part of the world file. It does not belong
there, it is a dependency I wanted to update. I don't want to run
--unmerge and -av1 again. What can I do?

kh

Re: [gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?

[AllenJB]

From Portage 2.2 rc30 onwards you can use --deselect. This ability is 
not present in any previous version.


Until you're using Portage 2.2, the other alternative is to manually 
edit the world file (MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!)


AllenJB

KH wrote:

Hi,

I am searching for the opposite of emerge --noreplace atom. I forgot
-1 and now the package is part of the world file. It does not belong
there, it is a dependency I wanted to update. I don't want to run
--unmerge and -av1 again. What can I do?

kh

Re: [gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?

[Dale]

AllenJB wrote:
 From Portage 2.2 rc30 onwards you can use --deselect. This ability is
 not present in any previous version.

 Until you're using Portage 2.2, the other alternative is to manually
 edit the world file (MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!)

 AllenJB


I have done this a few times as well and it worked fine.  Just leave it
nice and clean, remove the whole line instead of leaving a blank line.

Also, some nerd seems to have made it in alphabetical order too.  It
should be easy to find. 

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?

[KH]

Dale schrieb:
 AllenJB wrote:
 From Portage 2.2 rc30 onwards you can use --deselect. This ability is
 not present in any previous version.

 Until you're using Portage 2.2, the other alternative is to manually
 edit the world file (MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!)

 AllenJB

 
 I have done this a few times as well and it worked fine.  Just leave it
 nice and clean, remove the whole line instead of leaving a blank line.
 
 Also, some nerd seems to have made it in alphabetical order too.  It
 should be easy to find. 
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)
 
Hi,

thanks for the answer. One more question: Where exactly is the world
file? Is it in /var/db/pkg/ ?

kh

Re: [gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?

[Xavier Parizet]

On Tue, 05 May 2009 10:00:40 +0200, KH gentoo-u...@konstantinhansen.de
wrote:
 Dale schrieb:
 AllenJB wrote:
 From Portage 2.2 rc30 onwards you can use --deselect. This ability is
 not present in any previous version.

 Until you're using Portage 2.2, the other alternative is to manually
 edit the world file (MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!)

 AllenJB

 
 I have done this a few times as well and it worked fine.  Just leave it
 nice and clean, remove the whole line instead of leaving a blank line.
 
 Also, some nerd seems to have made it in alphabetical order too.  It
 should be easy to find. 
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)
 
 Hi,
 
 thanks for the answer. One more question: Where exactly is the world
 file? Is it in /var/db/pkg/ ?

/var/lib/portage/world

 
 kh

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Re: [gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 05 May 2009 09:44:58 KH wrote:
 Hi,

 I am searching for the opposite of emerge --noreplace atom. I forgot
 -1 and now the package is part of the world file. It does not belong
 there, it is a dependency I wanted to update. I don't want to run
 --unmerge and -av1 again. What can I do?

vi /var/lib/portage/world

followed by intelligent use of the / and dd functions in vi :-)

-- 
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[solved][gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?

[KH]

Alan McKinnon schrieb:
 
 vi /var/lib/portage/world
 
 followed by intelligent use of the / and dd functions in vi :-)
 

rofl

[gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...

[William Kenworthy]

I have got myself into a bind with kde 3.5.10 and 3.5.9 - I would like
to unmerge all kde and then remerge it as 3.5.10.  Currently its taken
me ages to unmerge packages as I have emereg world, which its just
dawned on me is only printing 3 blocking packages at a time - very slow
progress

Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just
remove all kde at once?

BillK


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Home in Perth!

Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:

 Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just
 remove all kde at once?

emerge -C kde-meta
emerge --depclean -a


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Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...

[Uwe]

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 I have got myself into a bind with kde 3.5.10 and 3.5.9 - I would like
 to unmerge all kde and then remerge it as 3.5.10.  Currently its taken
 me ages to unmerge packages as I have emereg world, which its just
 dawned on me is only printing 3 blocking packages at a time - very
 slow progress
 
 Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just
 remove all kde at once?
 
 BillK
 
 

Hi

Something like this should help

# equery list kde-base/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend
and then the same for kde-misc
# equery list kde-misc/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend


From here:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-config.xml


HTH
Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...

[William Kenworthy]

On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 14:04 +0200, Uwe wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800
 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
  I have got myself into a bind with kde 3.5.10 and 3.5.9 - I would like
  to unmerge all kde and then remerge it as 3.5.10.  Currently its taken
  me ages to unmerge packages as I have emereg world, which its just
  dawned on me is only printing 3 blocking packages at a time - very
  slow progress
  
  Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just
  remove all kde at once?
  
  BillK
  
  
 
 Hi
 
 Something like this should help
 
 # equery list kde-base/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend
 and then the same for kde-misc
 # equery list kde-misc/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend
 
 
 From here:
 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-config.xml
 

Thanks Uwe, I found this and used it and its now happily rebuilding.

BillK

Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...

[William Kenworthy]

On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 12:58 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
 
  Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just
  remove all kde at once?
 
 emerge -C kde-meta
 emerge --depclean -a
 
Thanks Neil, I used the xarg way from the kde meta page, but I'll keep
this in mind - the first time I've seen a use for depclean thats really
useful vice housekeeping.

BillK

[gentoo-user] remove DHCPCD/djbdns -- and now, manual setup fails...

[Michael Higgins]

Hello, list --

I have a server that had been running dhcpcd to get it's IP address.

I don't want to do like this anymore, so I removed the package and attempted
to configure the interface manually.

However, somewhere in my configs dhcp client is still called. How do I fix
this?

Also, I'd tried installing and configuring djbdns. 

I can't get the nameservers in resolv.conf to give me dns, even though I can
ping them.

And, starting sshd calls dhcp and kills the eth0 device.

How can I fix this? Any takers?

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] remove DHCPCD/djbdns -- and now, manual setup fails...

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:34:27 -0800, Michael Higgins wrote:

 I have a server that had been running dhcpcd to get it's IP address.
 
 I don't want to do like this anymore, so I removed the package and
 attempted to configure the interface manually.

How? We can't guess at what changes you made.

 However, somewhere in my configs dhcp client is still called. How do I
 fix this?

By posting the configs here, particularly /etc/conf.d/net. We have to see
the config file to be able to tell what's wrong with it.


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[solved] RE: [gentoo-user] remove DHCPCD/djbdns -- and now, manual setup fails...

[Michael Higgins]

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Higgins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Hello, list --
 
 I have a server that had been running dhcpcd to get it's IP address.
 
 I don't want to do like this anymore, so I removed the 
 package and attempted to configure the interface manually.
 
 However, somewhere in my configs dhcp client is still called. 
 How do I fix this?
 
 Also, I'd tried installing and configuring djbdns. 
 
 I can't get the nameservers in resolv.conf to give me dns, 
 even though I can ping them.
 
 And, starting sshd calls dhcp and kills the eth0 device.
 
 How can I fix this? Any takers?
 
 --
 Michael Higgins

[ solved ] - found offending line in /etc/conf.d/net. Can ssh into machine.

Still no DNS joy. I'll try getting a clue on #gentoo, I guess.

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RE: [gentoo-user] remove DHCPCD/djbdns -- and now, manual setup fails...

[Michael Higgins]

 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 1:40 PM

 
 On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:34:27 -0800, Michael Higgins wrote:
 
  I have a server that had been running dhcpcd to get it's IP address.
  
  I don't want to do like this anymore, so I removed the package and 
  attempted to configure the interface manually.
 
 How? We can't guess at what changes you made.
 
  However, somewhere in my configs dhcp client is still 
 called. How do I 
  fix this?
 
 By posting the configs here, particularly /etc/conf.d/net. We 
 have to see the config file to be able to tell what's wrong with it.

(As I mentioned in different post, I found the offending line in conf.d/net
and fixed. Or, thought I did...)

Here is /etc/conf.d/net:


config_eth0=( 192.168.100.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.100.255 )
routes_eth0=( default via 192.168.100.1 )

/etc/nsswitch.conf:

passwd:  compat
shadow:  compat
group:   compat

# passwd:db files nis
# shadow:db files nis
# group: db files nis

hosts:   files dns
networks:files dns

services:db files
protocols:   db files
rpc: db files
ethers:  db files
netmasks:files
netgroup:files
bootparams:  files

automount:   files
aliases: files

/etc/hosts:


127.0.0.1   localhost
::1 localhost

/etc/resolv.conf:

nameserver 209.116.241.10
nameserver 216.99.225.31
nameserver 216.99.233.253

. . .

The problem is that I installed djbdns and ran the scripts to set it up. 

It didn't work to cache and serve dns queries, so I gave up. But unmerging
it left me with no DNS at all.

I was hoping to find out what these scripts overwrote that's hijacking my
DNS requests.

Anyway, if anyone on the list has removed djbdns and re-configured access
directly to their ISP's nameservers, I'd like to know if it was effortless,
or was there something else required.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Sunday 12 November 2006 20:58, Marco Calviani wrote:
 Hi list,
i would like to remove prelink and put the system to the state it
 has before the prelink procedure. I've read that a

 # prelink -ua

 can do the job but i would have some suggestions from you all. It is
 enough to behave like this?

Gentoo provides a prelink howto [1]. But the bottom line is you need to do:

# prelink -ua  emerge -Cva prelink

As long as prelink is installed portage will use it...

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/prelink-howto.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Sunday 12 November 2006 21:40, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
 I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either.

 The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party tools
 is this:

 emerge -euD world

This is slightly amusing. Remerging every package while prelink is still 
installed will use prelink again... Also --update and --deep are ignored 
with --emptytree. Finally --unmerge of any prelinked package would fail the 
checksum and the binaries would be left alone if prelink --undo didn't work. 
But because portage does prelink --undo (which works) before checking the 
checksum --unmerge works just fine...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Uwe Thiem]

On 13 November 2006 14:44, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
 On Sunday 12 November 2006 21:40, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
  I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either.
 
  The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party
  tools is this:
 
  emerge -euD world

 This is slightly amusing. Remerging every package while prelink is still
 installed will use prelink again... 

Only if PRELINKING in /etc/conf.d/prelink is set to yes. I prefer to do my 
prelinking myself, so I set it to no - and emerge keeps its hand off 
prelink.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Monday 13 November 2006 14:22, Uwe Thiem wrote:
 On 13 November 2006 14:44, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
  On Sunday 12 November 2006 21:40, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
   I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either.
  
   The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party
   tools is this:
  
   emerge -euD world
 
  This is slightly amusing. Remerging every package while prelink is still
  installed will use prelink again...

 Only if PRELINKING in /etc/conf.d/prelink is set to yes. I prefer to do
 my prelinking myself, so I set it to no - and emerge keeps its hand off
 prelink.

Yes, I missed that. Portage just adds to the list of locations 
in /etc/prelink.conf that should be prelinked if PRELINKING is set to yes. 
And during unmerge is runs prelink --undo as already mentioned. So if 
PRELINKING is set to yes then setting it to no is actually all that is 
required:

# head -n 4 /etc/conf.d/prelink
# Set this to no to disable prelinking altogether
# (if you change this from yes to no prelink -ua
# will be run next night to undo prelinking)
PRELINKING=yes

And if it is set to no then `prelink -ua` is sufficient to undo manual 
prelinking.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Jesús Guerrero]

El Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:22:25 +0200
Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 On 13 November 2006 14:44, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
  On Sunday 12 November 2006 21:40, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
   I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either.
  
   The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd
   party tools is this:
  
   emerge -euD world
 
  This is slightly amusing. Remerging every package while prelink is
  still installed will use prelink again... 
 
 Only if PRELINKING in /etc/conf.d/prelink is set to yes. I prefer
 to do my prelinking myself, so I set it to no - and emerge keeps
 its hand off prelink.
 
 Uwe
 

Thank you for pointing that out. 

Small detail that I bypassed. :P

Jesús.

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[gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Marco Calviani]

Hi list,
  i would like to remove prelink and put the system to the state it
has before the prelink procedure. I've read that a

# prelink -ua

can do the job but i would have some suggestions from you all. It is
enough to behave like this?

Regards,
mc
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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Jesús Guerrero]

El Domingo, 12 de Noviembre de 2006 20:58, Marco Calviani escribió:
 Hi list,
i would like to remove prelink and put the system to the state it
 has before the prelink procedure. I've read that a

 # prelink -ua

 can do the job but i would have some suggestions from you all. It is
 enough to behave like this?

 Regards,
 mc

I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either. 

The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party tools is 
this:

emerge -euD world

Regards, Jesús.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Marco Calviani]

Hi,


emerge -euD world


but: is this going to recompile everything (e option) or only those
that needs upgrade?

Regards,
mc
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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Uwe Thiem]

On 12 November 2006 22:40, Jesús Guerrero wrote:

 I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either.

Just out of curiosity: Why? As in it doesn't do its job or as in it makes 
the system unstable?

My whole system is prelinked and it is very stable. Startup times of C++ 
applications are shorter.


 The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party tools
 is this:

 emerge -euD world

Probably right.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] REMOVE

[Thomas Witt]

On 7/20/06, Nunya Bidness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
REMOVE

You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

[gentoo-user] REMOVE

[Nunya Bidness]

REMOVE

Re: [gentoo-user] REMOVE

[Jerry McBride]

On Wednesday 19 July 2006 18:00, Nunya Bidness wrote:
 REMOVE

NO!
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Re: [gentoo-user] REMOVE

[Dale]

Jerry McBride wrote:
 On Wednesday 19 July 2006 18:00, Nunya Bidness wrote:
   
 REMOVE
 

 NO!
   
This may help you get rid of us.  O_O

 To unsubscribe from a list, send an empty email to:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


In other words, send a email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Give that a try.

Dale
:-)  :-)

Oh, I thought the NO was funny.  LOL

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Re: [gentoo-user] remove xorg-server to emerge nvidia-glx =Normal?

[Calvin Walton]

On 6/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99
  (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762)
  [ebuild  N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762
  USE=-dlloader 0 kB

Is this normal... is nvidia-glx a replacement to xorg-server?


Actually, this is because the nvidia driver officially doesn't support
xorg-server 1.1, only 1.0 (1.1 is xorg 7.1, 1.0 is xorg 7.0)
Many people (myself included) find that it mostly works - some minor
problems with bitmaps fonts in my experience.

Unfortunately, if you've already installed xorg 7.1, it's really hard
to downgrade.
Perhaps you can find some help from someone else on doing that, I've
make a local overlay ebuild without the block because it was working
for me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] remove xorg-server to emerge nvidia-glx =Normal?

[Pavel Kouřil]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry to break out of the thread where this is being discussed but I
 got part way thru some instructions about getting nvidia-glx setup and
 saw something that looks like it might throw a monkey wrench into
 things.

 I've emerged nvidia-kernel without problems.
 The next step is where I see this:

 root # emerge -vp nvidia-glx

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
   [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 
   (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762)
   [ebuild  N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762
   USE=-dlloader 0 kB 

 Is this normal... is nvidia-glx a replacement to xorg-server?

   
There is a bug with xorg 7.1  nvidia drivers 
[http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130292] If you have xorg 7.1
already, you must downgrade .. Use this package.mask
http://rafb.net/paste/results/HPsvCD94.html
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[gentoo-user] remove xorg-server to emerge nvidia-glx =Normal?

[reader]

Sorry to break out of the thread where this is being discussed but I
got part way thru some instructions about getting nvidia-glx setup and
saw something that looks like it might throw a monkey wrench into
things.

I've emerged nvidia-kernel without problems.
The next step is where I see this:

root # emerge -vp nvidia-glx

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
  [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 
  (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762)
  [ebuild  N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762
  USE=-dlloader 0 kB 

Is this normal... is nvidia-glx a replacement to xorg-server?

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[gentoo-user] Remove?

[osv]

Hi all!
It's at least one week that I try to unsubscribe from the list, but it seems 
they're not considering me at all!
I sent various empty mails (and even one or two with something written in) to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
but nothing happened.

Can someone help me?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?

[Martins Steinbergs]

On Tuesday 07 February 2006 17:18, osv wrote:
 Hi all!
 It's at least one week that I try to unsubscribe from the list, but it
 seems they're not considering me at all!
 I sent various empty mails (and even one or two with something written in)
 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 but nothing happened.

 Can someone help me?

 Thank you!

thats it, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

just check are you sending there from address you are signed to

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 16:18:49 +0100, osv wrote:

 I sent various empty mails (and even one or two with something written
 in) to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 but nothing happened.

Did you send them from your subscription address?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?

[osv]

 Did you send them from your subscription address?

Yes, I'm sure I did. Bwhua!!!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?

[andrew turner]

Quoting osv [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi all!
 It's at least one week that I try to unsubscribe from the list, but it seems
 
 they're not considering me at all!
 I sent various empty mails (and even one or two with something written in) to
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I seem to remember a post a while back saying that you needed to send an email 
to lists.gentoo.org, not gentoo.org.  But I could be wrong.  At least that 
would explain why people seem to be having trouble unsubscribing...

Andrew
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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?

[Holly Bostick]

andrew turner schreef:
 Quoting osv [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Hi all! It's at least one week that I try to unsubscribe from the 
 list, but it seems
 
 they're not considering me at all! I sent various empty mails (and 
 even one or two with something written in) to
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I seem to remember a post a while back saying that you needed to send
  an email to lists.gentoo.org, not gentoo.org.

That was me in that thread, saying /maybe/ that was the problem. But
Andrea Barsini (list admin) came by and said that the regular address
(as given above) should work fine.

So, no idea what the problem might be.

Holly
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