Re: [gentoo-user] Why gpm?
You have net-misc/dhcpcd, a DHCP client only. -- Jes_s Garc_a Crespo (aka Sevein) http://www.sevein.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key ID: E2DB17E8 (pgp.escomposlinux.org) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why gpm?
On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 18:00 +0200, Jes__s Garc__a Crespo wrote: Hi! I don't understand why gpm was included in the Gentoo base system. It was not in there before and I didn't find information about the reasons. But I could tell you my case: I installed Gentoo in my dedicated server in EEUU (I am from Spain) and I had to uninstall gpm since I won't use it anymore. I think that, for example, dhcpcd would be more logical to be included than gpm, don't you think so? I suppose the reason is that when setting up a system on the console, it helps to be able to cut-and-paste text with the mouse. While dhcpcd is useful for servers, it isn't needed during initial setup, whereas gpm is, even if it isn't used after that. Ed -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why gpm?
Jes__s Garc__a Crespo (aka Sevein) schreef: Hi! I don't understand why gpm was included in the Gentoo base system. It was not in there before and I didn't find information about the reasons. But I could tell you my case: I installed Gentoo in my dedicated server in EEUU (I am from Spain) and I had to uninstall gpm since I won't use it anymore. I think that, for example, dhcpcd would be more logical to be included than gpm, don't you think so? why would I think so? gpm and dhcpcd don't have anything to do with each other. gpm Description: Console-based mouse driver dhcpcd Description: A DHCP client only Actually, I find having gpm available quite useful, because without it, you can't very easily copy and paste in the console (I can manage this with a mouse available to select the text; even in nano, I'm not so successful with using the keyboard alone to edit/move text around. I have many such failings). I don't actually know that dhcpcd is *not* included in the base system, but assuming that it isn't, I would assume that dhcp, which includes the server as well as the client, would be much more 'generally' useful than just the client, as far as 'less config' goes, since otherwise the base install would have to be further targeted (use this tarball if you have a DHCP server-- which many people don't even know what DHCP is in the first place-- and use this one if you don't, etc.). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why gpm?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:39:18 +0100, Edward Catmur wrote: I suppose the reason is that when setting up a system on the console, it helps to be able to cut-and-paste text with the mouse. While dhcpcd is useful for servers, it isn't needed during initial setup, whereas gpm is, even if it isn't used after that. dhcpcd is the client program too, so it is useful for many people, especially those with laptops. however, I was pleased when it was removed from system, it is not essential for everyone, and the docs clearly mention merging it for those that need it. I would say gpm is even less essential, it is useful for some but essential for nobody. Having said that, it doesn't appear to be in system. It isn't installed on my server (which doesn't have a mouse) and in the world file on my desktop, which means I installed it myself. Why does the OP think it is part of the base system? -- Neil Bothwick Disc space -- the final frontier! pgpKpoQfzhoHL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Why gpm?
On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 21:19 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:39:18 +0100, Edward Catmur wrote: I suppose the reason is that when setting up a system on the console, it helps to be able to cut-and-paste text with the mouse. While dhcpcd is useful for servers, it isn't needed during initial setup, whereas gpm is, even if it isn't used after that. dhcpcd is the client program too, so it is useful for many people, especially those with laptops. however, I was pleased when it was removed from system, it is not essential for everyone, and the docs clearly mention merging it for those that need it. I would say gpm is even less essential, it is useful for some but essential for nobody. Having said that, it doesn't appear to be in system. It isn't installed on my server (which doesn't have a mouse) and in the world file on my desktop, which means I installed it myself. Why does the OP think it is part of the base system? That's a very good question. Having a look at the default USE flags we can see, that: emboss Adds support for the European Molecular Biology Open Software Suite is part of the base system too ;) Well, I have -emboss amongst my USE flags in make.conf. I'm not a biologist. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why gpm?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:30:28 +0200, Frank Schafer wrote: Why does the OP think it is part of the base system? That's a very good question. Having a look at the default USE flags we can see, that: emboss Adds support for the European Molecular Biology Open Software Suite is part of the base system too ;) Well, I have -emboss amongst my USE flags in make.conf. I'm not a biologist. That's nothing to do with the base system, which is the list of packages installed by emerge system. It's just a default setting for a USE flag, which sounds like it won't affect 99% of users anyway. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 15: Extinct Life pgpyN4OMCfjKh.pgp Description: PGP signature
