Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?

2010-02-25 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi,

I cannot use mupdf at all.
I've emerged mupdf-938 after adding it to my local overlay.

But, when it comes up it displays the first page but I cannot
do anything else.
There is no menu, it doesn't respond to the mouse or the PgUp/PgDn
keys. So I can only view the very first page or exit.
No search, no printing ...

What am I missing?
Helmut.


On 24 Feb, Willie Wong wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 02:21:39PM -0600, Neal Hogan wrote:
 I use mupdf with OpenBSD and I like it (vi-like bindings). Not too
 sure if Gentoo has the port/package. A quick gentoo mupdf google had
 a few hits . . . but I didn't look at any of the links to see what
 they were talking about.
 
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/280469
 
 I hope it at least makes into sunrise. There is a version or two in
 the gentoo-china overlay, but they are old and have security
 vulnerabilities. 
 
 W

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?

2010-02-25 Thread Stroller
The quoted stated vi-like bindings, so I would advise you to state  
that you've tried the j  k keys for up  down.


If the previous poster has bottom-posted, your top-posting makes the  
quuoted *particularly* difficult to read. I hope you will follow the  
conventions of the previous poster in the future.


Stroller.



On 25 Feb 2010, at 08:47, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

...
I cannot use mupdf at all.
I've emerged mupdf-938 after adding it to my local overlay.

But, when it comes up it displays the first page but I cannot
do anything else.
There is no menu, it doesn't respond to the mouse or the PgUp/PgDn
keys. So I can only view the very first page or exit.
No search, no printing ...




On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 02:21:39PM -0600, Neal Hogan wrote:




I use mupdf with OpenBSD and I like it (vi-like bindings). Not too
sure if Gentoo has the port/package. A quick gentoo mupdf google  
had

a few hits . . . but I didn't look at any of the links to see what
they were talking about.





Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?

2010-02-25 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
 Hi,

 I cannot use mupdf at all.
 I've emerged mupdf-938 after adding it to my local overlay.

 But, when it comes up it displays the first page but I cannot
 do anything else.
 There is no menu, it doesn't respond to the mouse or the PgUp/PgDn
 keys. So I can only view the very first page or exit.
 No search, no printing ...

 What am I missing?

The documentation?

 Helmut.


 On 24 Feb, Willie Wong wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 02:21:39PM -0600, Neal Hogan wrote:
 I use mupdf with OpenBSD and I like it (vi-like bindings). Not too
 sure if Gentoo has the port/package. A quick gentoo mupdf google had
 a few hits . . . but I didn't look at any of the links to see what
 they were talking about.

 http://bugs.gentoo.org/280469

 I hope it at least makes into sunrise. There is a version or two in
 the gentoo-china overlay, but they are old and have security
 vulnerabilities.

 W

 --
 Helmut Jarausch

 Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
 RWTH - Aachen University
 D 52056 Aachen, Germany





Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?

2010-02-25 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Thanks to 'Stroller' and Willie
I couldn't just believe in such an archaic user interface.
Helmut.

On 25 Feb, Stroller wrote:
 The quoted stated vi-like bindings, so I would advise you to state  
 that you've tried the j  k keys for up  down.
 
 

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?

2010-02-25 Thread Mick
On Thursday 25 February 2010 12:45:34 Neal Hogan wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Helmut Jarausch
 
 jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I cannot use mupdf at all.
  I've emerged mupdf-938 after adding it to my local overlay.
 
  But, when it comes up it displays the first page but I cannot
  do anything else.
  There is no menu, it doesn't respond to the mouse or the PgUp/PgDn
  keys. So I can only view the very first page or exit.
  No search, no printing ...
 
  What am I missing?
 
 The documentation?

http://ccxvii.net/mupdf/

Look at the bottom of the page under Manual.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?

2010-02-24 Thread Jacob Todd
There's app-text/gv, which is very small. There's also page from plan9port.
If you want to try out page, don't install plan9port from portage, it's
horribly out of date. You should download a recent tarball from
http://swtch.com/plan9port.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?

2010-02-24 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 01:01:37AM +0900, daid kahl wrote:
 I've tried xpdf, epdfview, evince, kpdf, and acroread. 

 I want something fast for big files, prints well, and has an interface that
 doesn't remind me of pure and natural X.  I don't mind the little page
 overview as a side-tool, but I don't strictly require it.

Speedwise I don't think epdfview/evince/kpdf will be all that much
different. They are all based on the poppler framework just with
different frontends. Poppler is, in turn, based on the xpdf rendering
parts. 

Acroread is, well acroread, and I try to avoid it whenever I can. 

 evince will take an arbitrarily long time to print documents that are long
 or have big figures.

That's odd. I use evince at work (though not on gentoo; work computer
is a heavily customized version of scientific linux) and I don't have
the printing problem. If it weren't for the Gnome dependencies that I
don't want on my laptop, I'd also use evince at home. (Hum, just
checked it out again now, and it looks like the dependency list is
shorter than I remembered it being?)

 The interface for xpdf is pretty lame (especially default printing), but
 it's quick as demons chasing bats out of hell.

But it works. It is my pdf viewer of choice at home. 

One thing I am waiting to see is epdf from the enlightenment
libraries. It is still masked, and is in the enlightenment overlay.
In the sunrise overlay there is a program called apvlv. I have never
tried it myself, but the codebase is small and it has a UI based on
the VIM UI (for better or for worse).

You probably know this already, but gv doesn't work too well a lot of
times.

Unfortunately there aren't that many pdf viewing softwares to choose from.

Cheers, 

W 

-- 
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton



Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?

2010-02-24 Thread daid kahl
[snips from daid / Willie Wong]
  evince will take an arbitrarily long time to print documents that are long
  or have big figures.

 That's odd. I use evince at work (though not on gentoo; work computer
 is a heavily customized version of scientific linux) and I don't have
 the printing problem.
[snip]

[also sorry if I used HTML formatting earlier, sometimes it is turned
on for me and I forget]

It could have been this crazy pdf I was printing, which was one of the
first times I was really using evince a lot since other things were
also complaining.  I had pdftk'ed different files, and I think some of
them were like US Letter and others were A4 and others weren't
specified.  Well, I kind of erased that experience from my memory, but
I know almost everything on different OSes didn't like what I'd done,
whatever it was.  So this could be a very bad test case.  There was
something else in my mind from testing it that made me kind of shiver
in a bad way, but I forget.  It should be a good program from what I
know, however.

  The interface for xpdf is pretty lame (especially default printing), but
  it's quick as demons chasing bats out of hell.

 But it works. It is my pdf viewer of choice at home.
[snip]

I'll check out what I can do for printing from it and maybe making it prettier.

 You probably know this already, but gv doesn't work too well a lot of
 times.

Yeah, I kinda forget, but I assume it wasn't removed from my world for
no reason at all.

 Unfortunately there aren't that many pdf viewing softwares to choose from.

We seem to be doing well so far!

~daid



Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?

2010-02-24 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:19 PM, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote:
 [snips from daid / Willie Wong]


 Unfortunately there aren't that many pdf viewing softwares to choose from.

 We seem to be doing well so far!

I use mupdf with OpenBSD and I like it (vi-like bindings). Not too
sure if Gentoo has the port/package. A quick gentoo mupdf google had
a few hits . . . but I didn't look at any of the links to see what
they were talking about.

-Neal



Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?

2010-02-24 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 24.02.2010 21:21, schrieb Neal Hogan:
 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:19 PM, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote:
 [snips from daid / Willie Wong]
 

 Unfortunately there aren't that many pdf viewing softwares to choose from.

 We seem to be doing well so far!
 
 I use mupdf with OpenBSD and I like it (vi-like bindings). Not too
 sure if Gentoo has the port/package. A quick gentoo mupdf google had
 a few hits . . . but I didn't look at any of the links to see what
 they were talking about.
 
 -Neal
 

Shao ~ # eix mupdf
* app-text/mupdf
 Available versions:  (~)0.5[1] (~)20090703[2] {+cjk debug jbig jpeg2k}
 Homepage:http://ccxvii.net/mupdf
 Description: Lightweight PDF viewer and toolkit written in
portable C.

[1] gentoo-china layman/gentoo-china
[2] rion layman/rion

It is not in portage tree but in those two overlays.

Greetings

Sebastian



Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?

2010-02-24 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 02:21:39PM -0600, Neal Hogan wrote:
 I use mupdf with OpenBSD and I like it (vi-like bindings). Not too
 sure if Gentoo has the port/package. A quick gentoo mupdf google had
 a few hits . . . but I didn't look at any of the links to see what
 they were talking about.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/280469

I hope it at least makes into sunrise. There is a version or two in
the gentoo-china overlay, but they are old and have security
vulnerabilities. 

W
-- 
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton