Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-25 Thread Dan Farrell
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:03:22 -0300 Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously I was wrong. No point in arguing that. Meh, I don't see why we should all be held to formalized terms for everything. Understanding each other is the important thing, in my mind. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 23 October 2007, Dan Farrell wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:12:07 -0400 Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forwarding echo request/response packets (ICMP), maybe? Yeah, that's what I thought, too. But wouldn't that require an IP? Or at least -- at the very least -- a MAC

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 24 October 2007, Mick wrote: Thanks guys. The AP has a reserved static LAN IP address on the router (10.10.10.13). It also has a MAC. So it is simply a matter of forwarding (all) ICMP echo-reply packets that arrive from the Internet to that LAN address. (On this implementation

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Stroller
On 23 Oct 2007, at 22:27, Daniel da Veiga wrote: ... I really don't get how you forward something to an Access Point, isn't this device like a dumb hub on your wireless network? Mine doesn't have an IP, nor MAC or anything that could identify it on the network. You're making assumptions that

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 24 October 2007, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Wednesday 24 October 2007, Mick wrote: Thanks guys. The AP has a reserved static LAN IP address on the router (10.10.10.13). It also has a MAC. So it is simply a matter of forwarding (all) ICMP echo-reply packets that arrive from the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
On 10/24/07, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm actually a little surprised to hear that yours doesn't - how does one change the SSID wireless encryption key, if the AP has no IP address to connect to? Stroller. Here at one of the University labs there is a REALLY old 802.11b 3COM AP

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 24 October 2007, Mick wrote: I don't have access to a MS Windows machine right now, but using mtr I get: [snip . . .] 23. XX-XX-XXX-XX.dhcp.kgpt.tn.cha 6.7%15 145.5 145.4 143.2 146.9 1.3 24. ???

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 10/24/07, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23 Oct 2007, at 22:27, Daniel da Veiga wrote: ... I really don't get how you forward something to an Access Point, isn't this device like a dumb hub on your wireless network? Mine doesn't have an IP, nor MAC or anything that could

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Stroller
On 24 Oct 2007, at 15:41, Daniel da Veiga wrote: ... Simple home APs act just like that, no address for configs or anything, just a bridge to another network. These devices have no config at all, they simply create an SSID with no encryption to a wired network. What he got is a WIRELESS ROUTER

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Dan Farrell
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:28:16 +0100 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Oct 2007, at 15:41, Daniel da Veiga wrote: ... Simple home APs act just like that, no address for configs or anything, just a bridge to another network. These devices have no config at all, they simply create an

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 10/24/07, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:28:16 +0100 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Oct 2007, at 15:41, Daniel da Veiga wrote: ... Simple home APs act just like that, no address for configs or anything, just a bridge to another network.

[gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-23 Thread Mick
Hi All, I am trying to troubleshoot two devices both behind the same IP address: Device A: a router Device B: a wireless access point The network looks like this: Internet modem router AP Currently I have set up a firewall rule in the router to forward all pings to the AP. The logic is

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-23 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 10/23/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I am trying to troubleshoot two devices both behind the same IP address: Device A: a router Device B: a wireless access point The network looks like this: Internet modem router AP Currently I have set up a firewall rule in the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-23 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:27:10 -0300 Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't get how you forward something to an Access Point, isn't this device like a dumb hub on your wireless network? Mine doesn't have an IP, nor MAC or anything that could identify it on the network. Now I am

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-23 Thread Mark Shields
On 10/23/07, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:27:10 -0300 Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't get how you forward something to an Access Point, isn't this device like a dumb hub on your wireless network? Mine doesn't have an IP, nor MAC or

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-23 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:12:07 -0400 Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forwarding echo request/response packets (ICMP), maybe? Yeah, that's what I thought, too. But wouldn't that require an IP? Or at least -- at the very least -- a MAC address for Ethernet-layer transmission of some kind?