Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 9 August 2022 17:06:13 BST Laurence Perkins wrote: > I've heard a few, similar stories from your side of the pond. So far as I > can tell it's a matter of incompetence, not maliciousness. The word you want is 'malice'. -- Regards, Peter.

RE: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-09 Thread Laurence Perkins
> >> >> Thank goodness I don't live in the good ol' US of A. The land of the >> free? Hm... > >We still have the protections introduced by the EU. Let's hope the government >aren't about to tear them up... oh, they are. America has been slowly going fascist for coming up on 100 years now.

RE: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-09 Thread Laurence Perkins
>-Original Message- >From: Peter Humphrey >Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 4:08 PM >To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info > >On Monday, 8 August 2022 17:25:08 BST Laurence Perkins wrote: > >&

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-09 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 9 August 2022 00:35:05 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 09 Aug 2022 00:04:53 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > So government level actors spying on your banking just go to the > > > bank. And they've been getting more nosey in recent years. Last I > > > heard, any transaction over

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 09 Aug 2022 00:04:53 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > So government level actors spying on your banking just go to the > > bank. And they've been getting more nosey in recent years. Last I > > heard, any transaction over $600 gets automatically reported to them, > > and they keep

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 09 Aug 2022 00:07:38 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Now, that said, the other ISP in the area also has a backdoor, and > > they try to connect to it any time they're running diagnostics, and > > if the connection fails then they reset the circuit. So your choice > > is use one of their

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 8 August 2022 17:25:08 BST Laurence Perkins wrote: > I would strongly recommend getting your own equipment with most ISPs since > the rental price on their equipment will buy a new modem yearly. > > Now, that said, the other ISP in the area also has a backdoor, and they try > to

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 8 August 2022 17:34:40 BST Laurence Perkins wrote: > They have no reason to bother. At least not in the USA. US courts ruled > decades ago that as soon as you give information to a third party you lose > all expectation of privacy (yes, even if the third party promised privacy > in

RE: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-08 Thread Laurence Perkins
>-Original Message- >From: Michael >Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2022 1:32 AM >To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info > >On Saturday, 6 August 2022 07:07:26 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: &g

RE: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-08 Thread Laurence Perkins
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Humphrey > Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 4:36 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info > > On Saturday, 6 August 2022 00:05:20 BST Wol wrote: > > On

RE: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-08 Thread Laurence Perkins
>-Original Message- >From: Wol >Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 4:05 PM >To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info > >On 05/08/2022 15:53, Laurence Perkins wrote: >> Oh, and note that if your ISP

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-07 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 7 August 2022 19:27:42 BST Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 11:36 AM Michael wrote: > > The best a well configured VPN tunnel can offer is a secure connection > > between client and VPN server, which is handy if you are out and about > > using untrusted and insecure WiFi

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 11:36 AM Michael wrote: > > The best a well configured VPN tunnel can offer is a secure connection between > client and VPN server, which is handy if you are out and about using untrusted > and insecure WiFi hotspots. > > The only other reason for using a VPN service is to

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-07 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 7 August 2022 07:06:55 BST William Kenworthy wrote: > On 6/8/22 20:42, Michael wrote: > > On Saturday, 6 August 2022 12:08:30 BST Dale wrote: > > ... > > > > The more you try to escape the 14 eyes Big Brother, the closer you may > > fall > > into the hands of various authoritarian

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-07 Thread William Kenworthy
On 6/8/22 20:42, Michael wrote: On Saturday, 6 August 2022 12:08:30 BST Dale wrote: ... The more you try to escape the 14 eyes Big Brother, the closer you may fall into the hands of various authoritarian regimes. LOL! Even VPNs like NordVPN which operates within the jurisdiction of Panama

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-06 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 12:08:30 BST Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > > Michael wrote: > >> On Saturday, 6 August 2022 07:07:26 BST Dale wrote: > >>> Well, that settles that then. I guess it will be Surfshark. Pretty > >>> sure it is in the Netherlands but may be wrong on country. I just > >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 12:08:30 BST Dale wrote: > I did a quick google search and Surfshark is based in British Virgin > Islands and is outside the eyes countries. According to [1], the BVI is "considered partners or affiliates of the fourteen eyes alliance." 1.

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 6:57 AM Dale wrote: > > I also want to use a VPN but only for some programs. Example, I want > Ktorrent and a couple Firefox profiles to use VPNs but at least one > Firefox profile I want to remain outside of VPN. I can't keep up with which VPNs are more or less scummy

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-06 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: >> On Saturday, 6 August 2022 07:07:26 BST Dale wrote: >> >>> Well, that settles that then. I guess it will be Surfshark. Pretty >>> sure it is in the Netherlands but may be wrong on country. I just >>> recall it being outside US jurisdiction. I also read they have

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-06 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 6 August 2022 07:07:26 BST Dale wrote: > >> Well, that settles that then. I guess it will be Surfshark. Pretty >> sure it is in the Netherlands but may be wrong on country. I just >> recall it being outside US jurisdiction. I also read they have been >> audited by

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-06 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 07:07:26 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > All connections to banks are encrypted end-to-end for decades now and the > > encryption has becoming stronger over the years. > > That is likely true. I still remember Snowden tho. We don't know what > backdoors are in

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-06 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Friday, 5 August 2022 21:45:25 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> What kind of protection are you seeking - what is your threat model? >> I'm mostly wanting it so people can't just look and see what I'm doing >> or where I am, mostly my ISP. > In this case 'people' and

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 00:05:20 BST Wol wrote: > On 05/08/2022 15:53, Laurence Perkins wrote: > > Oh, and note that if your ISP works the same way as mine, they have a > > backdoor into whatever equipment they happen to have provided. So > > definitely put it in bridge mode or whatever and

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-05 Thread thelma
On 7/16/22 10:41, Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday, 16 July 2022 11:57:25 BST Dale wrote: Basically, I can upload files as fast as I download them. Now I can upload videos or something. ...or run a web server! That's way above anything I'd want to tackle.  Heck, this VPN

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-05 Thread Wol
On 05/08/2022 15:53, Laurence Perkins wrote: Oh, and note that if your ISP works the same way as mine, they have a backdoor into whatever equipment they happen to have provided. So definitely put it in bridge mode or whatever and use your own gear if you don't want them spying on the doings

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-05 Thread Michael
On Friday, 5 August 2022 21:45:25 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > What kind of protection are you seeking - what is your threat model? > > I'm mostly wanting it so people can't just look and see what I'm doing > or where I am, mostly my ISP. In this case 'people' and your ISP will see you

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-05 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 4 August 2022 23:32:03 BST Dale wrote: > >> I also ordered a router that has openvpn installed on it. I watched >> some videos and think I can set it up to keep my traffic out of public >> view. After I learned more about it, there's no reason to not use the >> VPN

RE: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-05 Thread Laurence Perkins
> -Original Message- > From: Dale > Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2022 3:32 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info > > Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > > > Fiber internet is r

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-04 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 4 August 2022 23:32:03 BST Dale wrote: > I also ordered a router that has openvpn installed on it. I watched > some videos and think I can set it up to keep my traffic out of public > view. After I learned more about it, there's no reason to not use the > VPN for all traffic

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-08-04 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > Fiber internet is right around the corner.  Some neighbors are already > connected and they working their way to my area.  Once I get connected, > I also want to use a VPN but only for some programs.  Example, I want > Ktorrent and a couple Firefox profiles to use VPNs but

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-07-18 Thread Adam Carter
On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 2:41 AM Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Saturday, 16 July 2022 11:57:25 BST Dale wrote: > > > >> Basically, I can upload files as fast as I download them. Now I can > upload > >> videos or something. > > ...or run a web server! > > > > > That's way above

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-07-18 Thread Adam Carter
> > And you'll need to always keep in mind that a VPN is a low-level > protection. It's enough for protecting yourself against spammers, script > kiddies or > similar but it can't keep you private in the face of any high-level > threats. Don't place too much trust in VPNs. > I'm not an expert,

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-07-16 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 16 July 2022 18:17:35 BST Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 3:57 AM Dale > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Also, the package I'm getting is 500Mbs/sec. What speeds should I > > > really expect? If memory serves me right, that is

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-07-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 10:18 AM Dale wrote: > > If I understand this correctly, they are stating bits but most data speeds are commonly in bytes. I read once where one should divide by 8 or 9 to get the true speed in common use. Internet folks use the larger number because it makes it look

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-07-16 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 3:57 AM Dale > wrote: > > > > > Also, the package I'm getting is 500Mbs/sec.  What speeds should I > > really expect?  If memory serves me right, that is about 50MBs/sec, note > > the size of the B.  By the way, that

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-07-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 3:57 AM Dale wrote: > > Also, the package I'm getting is 500Mbs/sec. What speeds should I > really expect? If memory serves me right, that is about 50MBs/sec, note > the size of the B. By the way, that is about 50 times faster than what > I have now. Also, up and down

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-07-16 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday, 16 July 2022 11:57:25 BST Dale wrote: > >> Basically, I can upload files as fast as I download them. Now I can upload >> videos or something. > ...or run a web server! > That's way above anything I'd want to tackle.  Heck, this VPN thing is a bit confusing. 

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-07-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 16 July 2022 11:57:25 BST Dale wrote: > Basically, I can upload files as fast as I download them. Now I can upload > videos or something. ...or run a web server! -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-07-16 Thread Federico J. Denkena
Hey, NordVPN and Surfshark aren't really considered good VPNs. I'd instead suggest you take a look at Mullvad and IVPN (maybe ProtonVPN too if your threat model doesn't include governments or any kind of law enforcement). A VPN tunnel basically routes all traffic directed at it to the VPN

[gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info

2022-07-16 Thread Dale
Howdy, Fiber internet is right around the corner.  Some neighbors are already connected and they working their way to my area.  Once I get connected, I also want to use a VPN but only for some programs.  Example, I want Ktorrent and a couple Firefox profiles to use VPNs but at least one Firefox