Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Is Google getting evil?

2006-06-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:04:28 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:

 But, it's interesting to see I've made 490 posts to this list since Mar
 2004.  That must be when google groups was turned on, as I've posted
 earlier than that, but oh well, who's keeping count?!! (Better make that
 491 now ;)

I've got posts from earlier in there, since I started using this mail
address in fact. Did you use a different address prior to Mar 04?


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Is Google getting evil?

2006-06-01 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 10:01 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:04:28 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 
  But, it's interesting to see I've made 490 posts to this list since Mar
  2004.  That must be when google groups was turned on, as I've posted
  earlier than that, but oh well, who's keeping count?!! (Better make that
  491 now ;)
 
 I've got posts from earlier in there, since I started using this mail
 address in fact. Did you use a different address prior to Mar 04?

wow, that took me on a bit of a nostalgic trip around the www
archives :) I think you're right, prior to Mar 04 I was using a
different address.  

... I thought this year was 2005 :)

Interesting to see my own posts about trying to get evolution 1.5 to
compile :)
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[gentoo-user] OT: Is Google getting evil?

2006-05-31 Thread JimD
Sorry for all the OT posts today.  I am having problems with my ISP and
I am not doing much work. :-)

Anyway, I just found out something about Google Groups.  I normally post
through my ISP, however as I just stated, issues caused me to look up
this gentoo group on Google groups.  It can be found here:
http://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.user

Go to the link above on Google, click on any topic.  At the top of the
topic you will see the From: line.  At the end of that line there is a
link named View Profile.  Click on that.

Wow.  Google shows a list of every group it finds your email in and
displays it in a drop down.  I guess People should think twice about
using their real contact information, name/email, in a group.

Am I the only one that is bothered by this?  Or should I remove some of
the tinfoil layers from around my head? :-)

Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Is Google getting evil?

2006-05-31 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/31/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Wow.  Google shows a list of every group it finds your email in and
displays it in a drop down.  I guess People should think twice about
using their real contact information, name/email, in a group.

Am I the only one that is bothered by this?  Or should I remove some of
the tinfoil layers from around my head? :-)


It is a little distressing to see every posting you've made to any
public group since the beginning of time all listed on a single page.
And it is a gold-mine for anybody that might want to investigate you
online...

But considering that they are *public* forums, and the postings are
available via other archives, I guess I can't really complain too
much.  After all, it's not like you can see every personal email I
have sent or received there

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Is Google getting evil?

2006-05-31 Thread Philip Webb
060531 JimD wrote:
 I just found out something about Google Groups.
   http://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.user
 Go to the link above on Google, click on any topic.
 At the top of the topic you will see the From: line.
 At the end there is a link named View Profile.  Click on that.
 Google shows a list of every group it finds your email in
 and displays it in a drop down.

They are presumably public lists, so CAVEAT SCRIPTOR .
It's like sending a letter to a newspaper: they might print it !
OTOH the Internet does allow anyone to collect vast amounts of information,
but OTOH it's far too much for any realistic use malign or otherwise.
It's like the US govt collecting a record of everyone's phone calls:
however could they ever analyse them ?  The rest of us laugh at them
(yes, someone in a bunker in Colorado may be reading this very message
 our peaceful, ordered  well-governed country may be targetted (grin)).

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Is Google getting evil?

2006-05-31 Thread Daniel da Veiga

On 5/31/06, Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

060531 JimD wrote:
 I just found out something about Google Groups.
   http://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.user
 Go to the link above on Google, click on any topic.
 At the top of the topic you will see the From: line.
 At the end there is a link named View Profile.  Click on that.
 Google shows a list of every group it finds your email in
 and displays it in a drop down.

They are presumably public lists, so CAVEAT SCRIPTOR .


There are copies over Gmane and most mailing lists have a news format,
along with digests, so, its kinda easy to track you down. Even google
crawler would come up with links in Gmane and other mail-to-news
sites.


It's like sending a letter to a newspaper: they might print it !
OTOH the Internet does allow anyone to collect vast amounts of information,
but OTOH it's far too much for any realistic use malign or otherwise.
It's like the US govt collecting a record of everyone's phone calls:
however could they ever analyse them ?  The rest of us laugh at them
(yes, someone in a bunker in Colorado may be reading this very message
 our peaceful, ordered  well-governed country may be targetted (grin)).



Today you must be careful with what you send. Google is not the only
one providing personal information over the net, it just indexes it
and make it searchable. I just googled my name and found my own ID
number (here at brazil, its comparable with US Social Security number)
published along with my complete profile in a government site where 4
years ago I did tests for a public position.

Privacy is measured by how much you care about it, if you think VERY
WELL it simply do not exist.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Is Google getting evil?

2006-05-31 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 18:35 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
 
 Privacy is measured by how much you care about it, if you think VERY
 WELL it simply do not exist.

The only real privacy policy is: everyone can have access to anything
and everything.  Nothing is confidential or hidden.

But, it's interesting to see I've made 490 posts to this list since Mar
2004.  That must be when google groups was turned on, as I've posted
earlier than that, but oh well, who's keeping count?!! (Better make that
491 now ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Is Google getting evil?

2006-05-31 Thread Teresa and Dale
Iain Buchanan wrote:

On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 18:35 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
  

Privacy is measured by how much you care about it, if you think VERY
WELL it simply do not exist.



The only real privacy policy is: everyone can have access to anything
and everything.  Nothing is confidential or hidden.

But, it's interesting to see I've made 490 posts to this list since Mar
2004.  That must be when google groups was turned on, as I've posted
earlier than that, but oh well, who's keeping count?!! (Better make that
491 now ;)
  


I guess that explains why I started getting spam. 

Dale
:-)  :-)
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