Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-15 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 6:29 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I think I've gotten burned out talking about the advantages of systemd > on Gentoo lists. If anybody wants to chat about it feel free to ping > me via email or irc, but not in a channel. You're giving up far too early!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 3:06 AM, Marc Joliet wrote: > Perhaps somebody with more systemd expertise will now feel compelled to > respond ;-) . I think I've gotten burned out talking about the advantages of systemd on Gentoo lists. If anybody wants to chat about it feel free to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-15 Thread Marc Joliet
On Tuesday 14 June 2016 06:46:32 J. Roeleveld wrote: >On Monday, June 13, 2016 02:10:27 PM James wrote: >> wabe gmail.com> writes: >> Still, if you manage 1000 linux workstations, then systemd does have >> it's merits. > >Serious question: What makes systemd more suitable to manage 1000 linux

[gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-14 Thread James
J. Roeleveld antarean.org> writes: > > On Monday, June 13, 2016 02:10:27 PM James wrote: > > wabe gmail.com> writes: > > Still, if you manage 1000 linux workstations, then systemd does have > > it's merits. > Serious question: What makes systemd more suitable to manage 1000 linux >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, June 13, 2016 02:10:27 PM James wrote: > wabe gmail.com> writes: > Still, if you manage 1000 linux workstations, then systemd does have > it's merits. Serious question: What makes systemd more suitable to manage 1000 linux workstations when compared to, for instance, OpenRC? --

[gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-13 Thread James
wabe gmail.com> writes: > waltdnes waltdnes.org wrote: > I'm glad that gentoo users still have an alternative to systemd, and > hope that this will also be the case in future. Non Systemd has a very bright future. In clustering, Systemd is ok, even great for containers. In Hi Performance

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-12 Thread wabe
Jonathan Callen wrote: > On 06/09/2016 10:00 AM, Dale wrote: > > waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 08:16:57AM -0500, Dale wrote > >>> k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Dale: > ... > > Can a system even boot without udev? > Yes, use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-10 Thread waltdnes
On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 10:18:01PM -0400, Jonathan Callen wrote > Actually, you no longer need a user-space device manager at all, unless > you want to be able to access device nodes under /dev as a user that > isn't UID=0 or has CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE. The kernel provides a devtmpfs > filesystem that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-09 Thread Dale
Jonathan Callen wrote: > On 06/09/2016 10:00 AM, Dale wrote: >> waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 08:16:57AM -0500, Dale wrote k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Dale: > ... >> Can a system even boot without udev? > Yes, use sys-fs/static-dev (unless you have

[gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-09 Thread Jonathan Callen
On 06/09/2016 10:00 AM, Dale wrote: > waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 08:16:57AM -0500, Dale wrote >>> k...@aspodata.se wrote: Dale: ... > Can a system even boot without udev? Yes, use sys-fs/static-dev (unless you have some special boot