Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 4:34 PM Mark David Dumlao wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:18 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > If you instead let the user code their own algorithm, then while this > > increases complexity, it also makes it easy for users to shoot > > themselves in the feet with an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-13 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:18 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:12 PM Mark David Dumlao wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:32 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > > > I just stumbled on lesspass which seems to be such a tool for > > > algorithmic password generation

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:12 PM Mark David Dumlao wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:32 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > > I just stumbled on lesspass which seems to be such a tool for > > algorithmic password generation (lesspass.com). > > Great tool. Good to know there are those that think alike.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-13 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:32 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 04:28:49 +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > > > > > >> My own solution is actually very simple. I have a "secret algorithm" > > >> that incorporates several secrets with a predictable way to generate a > > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 9:26 AM Kai Peter wrote: > > On 2019-02-05 22:17, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 04:28:49 +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > > > >> My own solution is actually very simple. I have a "secret algorithm" > >> that incorporates several secrets with a predictable way

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-09 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Sat, Feb 09, 2019 at 04:42:42AM -0600, Dale wrote: > > It seems you just put yours on a stick as plain text.  If you trust your > safe, that should be fine.  Since I have mine on my system, I encrypt > it.  It may be easier to do it your way tho.  At least easier for > whoever comes after me. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-09 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 18:19:26 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> I suspect that anyone trying to hack us Linux users, users of this list >> especially, would have a rough road ahead of them.  Based on replies >> here, some have some pretty good methods of coming up with a password.  >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 18:19:26 -0600, Dale wrote: > I suspect that anyone trying to hack us Linux users, users of this list > especially, would have a rough road ahead of them.  Based on replies > here, some have some pretty good methods of coming up with a password.  > Let us hope none of us dies

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-08 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 08 Feb 2019 15:26:22 +0100, Kai Peter wrote: > >>> The was a tool in portage this did this. I tried it but it did not >>> work in the real world because you couldn't set a rule for generated >>> passwords >>> that matched the requirements of all sites, for example

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 08 Feb 2019 15:26:22 +0100, Kai Peter wrote: > > The was a tool in portage this did this. I tried it but it did not > > work in the real world because you couldn't set a rule for generated > > passwords > > that matched the requirements of all sites, for example some require a > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-08 Thread Kai Peter
On 2019-02-05 22:17, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 04:28:49 +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: My own solution is actually very simple. I have a "secret algorithm" that incorporates several secrets with a predictable way to generate a site-specific secret. The end result is a 100%

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-05 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:18 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 04:28:49 +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > > > My own solution is actually very simple. I have a "secret algorithm" > > that incorporates several secrets with a predictable way to generate a > > site-specific secret. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 04:28:49 +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > My own solution is actually very simple. I have a "secret algorithm" > that incorporates several secrets with a predictable way to generate a > site-specific secret. The end result is a 100% predictable way to > generate unique

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-05 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 3:39 AM Jack wrote: > The problem I have with many of these suggestions is that I have > multiple devices (two desktops, two laptops, tablet, android phone) I > use sufficiently often that I either need to be able to remember the > passwords or have some way of easily

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-05 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:34 AM Dale wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 5:12 PM Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > >>> One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:34 AM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 5:12 PM Dale wrote: > >> Neil Bothwick wrote: > >>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > >>> > > One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-05 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Tuesday, 5 February 2019 07:55:41 GMT Dale wrote: >> Mick wrote: >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LastPass#Security_issues >>> >> From what I read, no users had their passwords compromised in those. > I read it differently. LastPass didn't know if any passwds were compromised >

[gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-05 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 04/02/2019 22:49, Dale wrote: Also, if my computer were to die a sudden death, power supply goes bonkers and burns everything in it up including hard drives, my passwords are still safe but available. Firefox stores my login passwords encrypted on a server provided by Mozilla. It syncs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-05 Thread Mick
On Tuesday, 5 February 2019 07:55:41 GMT Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LastPass#Security_issues > > > From what I read, no users had their passwords compromised in those. I read it differently. LastPass didn't know if any passwds were compromised (or wouldn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-05 Thread Mick
On Tuesday, 5 February 2019 08:41:28 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 04 Feb 2019 23:26:52 +, Mick wrote: > > You could use gpg/openssl to encrypt a number of files, which would > > contain your different website/application passwds. > > pass does exactly that > > * app-admin/pass >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 04 Feb 2019 23:26:52 +, Mick wrote: > You could use gpg/openssl to encrypt a number of files, which would > contain your different website/application passwds. pass does exactly that * app-admin/pass Available versions: 1.7.3 ** {X dmenu emacs fish-completion +git

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Monday, 4 February 2019 22:12:16 GMT Dale wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's > computer, use LastPass to say make use of Paypal, Newegg, Ebay etc,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 5:12 PM Dale wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> > One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's > computer, use LastPass to say make use of Paypal, Newegg, Ebay

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Mick
On Monday, 4 February 2019 22:12:16 GMT Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > >>> One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's > >>> computer, use LastPass to say make use of Paypal, Newegg, Ebay etc, > >>> logoff

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 5:12 PM Dale wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > >>> One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's > >>> computer, use LastPass to say make use of Paypal, Newegg, Ebay etc, > >>> logoff and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > >>> One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's >>> computer, use LastPass to say make use of Paypal, Newegg, Ebay etc, >>> logoff and it is like I was never there. >> As much as I like

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:09 PM Dale wrote: >> I'm not sure if one can convert that to NSA time or not. o_O The >> password contains upper/lower case letters, couple symbols from up top >> of the number keys and several numbers. None of which anyone would be >> able to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > > One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's > > computer, use LastPass to say make use of Paypal, Newegg, Ebay etc, > > logoff and it is like I was never there. > > As much as I like Lastpass I would never do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:49 PM Dale wrote: > > One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's > computer, use LastPass to say make use of Paypal, Newegg, Ebay etc, > logoff and it is like I was never there. As much as I like Lastpass I would never do that. It isn't magic -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 04 Feb 2019 14:38:38 -0500, Jack wrote: > The problem I have with many of these suggestions is that I have > multiple devices (two desktops, two laptops, tablet, android phone) I > use sufficiently often that I either need to be able to remember the > passwords or have some way of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 04/02/2019 07:47, Dale wrote: >> How do you, especially those who admin systems that are always being >> hacked at, generate strong passwords that meet the above?  I've googled >> and found some ideas but if I use the same method, well, how many others >> are using

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:09 PM Dale wrote: > > I'm not sure if one can convert that to NSA time or not. o_O The > password contains upper/lower case letters, couple symbols from up top > of the number keys and several numbers. None of which anyone would be > able to guess in any way. They

[gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > <<< SNIP >>> > > How do you, especially those who admin systems that are always being > hacked at, generate strong passwords that meet the above?  I've googled > and found some ideas but if I use the same method, well, how many others > are using that same method, if you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Jack
On 2019.02.04 06:10, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 04/02/2019 07:47, Dale wrote: How do you, especially those who admin systems that are always being hacked at, generate strong passwords that meet the above?  I've googled and found some ideas but if I use the same method, well, how many

[gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 04/02/2019 13:17, Mick wrote: You will be surprised how many people are still using passwds like: password password1 arsenal manchesterunited2018 fido on websites which store their credit card details. O_O A friend of mine used "" as a password because it matched what was being

[gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 04/02/2019 07:47, Dale wrote: How do you, especially those who admin systems that are always being hacked at, generate strong passwords that meet the above?  I've googled and found some ideas but if I use the same method, well, how many others are using that same method, if you know what I