Daniel Troeder writes:
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:16 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Sunday 05 April 2009 21:45:16 Daniel Troeder wrote:
When updates hit the portage tree, that are known to cause problems
to lots of people - why not tell that directly after the --sync?
Unfortunate
On Friday 10 April 2009 15:35:23 Dale wrote:
Wyatt Epp wrote:
Greets,
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things
that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so.
Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show
one mask at
On Montag 13 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Friday 10 April 2009 15:35:23 Dale wrote:
Wyatt Epp wrote:
Greets,
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things
that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so.
Things like the danger of
Wyatt Epp wrote:
Greets,
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things
that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so.
Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show
one mask at a time. So I was curious...what have people that
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:35:23AM -0500, Dale wrote:
Wyatt Epp wrote:
Greets,
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things
that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so.
Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show
Momesso Andrea wrote:
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:35:23AM -0500, Dale wrote:
Wyatt Epp wrote:
Greets,
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things
that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so.
Things like the danger of depclean or the way
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Momesso Andrea wrote:
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:35:23AM -0500, Dale wrote:
Wyatt Epp wrote:
Greets,
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things
that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should
Paul Hartman wrote:
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Momesso Andrea wrote:
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:35:23AM -0500, Dale wrote:
Wyatt Epp wrote:
Greets,
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things
that
On Freitag 10 April 2009, Dale wrote:
Wyatt Epp wrote:
Greets,
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things
that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so.
Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show
one mask at a time.
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Freitag 10 April 2009, Dale wrote:
Wyatt Epp wrote:
Greets,
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things
that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so.
Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:16 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Sunday 05 April 2009 21:45:16 Daniel Troeder wrote:
When updates hit the portage tree, that are known to cause problems to
lots of people - why not tell that directly after the --sync?
Unfortunate timing here - within 24 hours
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 14:24 +0200, Daniel Troeder wrote:
* Where can I find old news? With eselect news read all I get
nothing. Did I maybe purge it?... that brings me back to my first
question :)
Hmm... from another [gentoo-user] thread I
found /usr/portage/metadata/news/ , but how can I
On Sunday 05 April 2009 21:45:16 Daniel Troeder wrote:
When updates hit the portage tree, that are known to cause problems to
lots of people - why not tell that directly after the --sync?
Unfortunate timing here - within 24 hours the X11 upgrade included exactly
this feature by way of eselect
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 13:31:35 +0200
Sebastian Günther sam...@guenther-roetgen.de wrote:
* Alan McKinnon (alan.mckin...@gmail.com) [04.04.09 09:57]:
emerge --lock some-package-some-version
I find this suggestion very good, and would like to ask the more
experienced participants, if such
Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org writes:
There was a lib update, that broke sancho a while ago. A new version of
sancho fixed this. But i had to use this new version from the developers
site, because even ~arch package was several versions lower.
Some weeks ago the oscar protocol or something
On Friday 03 April 2009 18:59:24 Wyatt Epp wrote:
I was curious...what have people [...] noticed that is mildly irritating
and disruptive to the Gentoo experience?
/usr/portage/profiles/use.desc and ...use.local.desc (though mildly isn't
the word I'd use). For the most part they remind me of
On Sunday 05 April 2009 10:22:26 Peter Humphrey wrote:
I raised a bug complaining of this not long ago, which received one
reply. Then silence. It's too hard a job, requiring understanding,
imagination and a flair with words.
Actually, I've just checked, and some of the specific entries I
On 5 Apr 2009, at 10:35, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Sunday 05 April 2009 10:22:26 Peter Humphrey wrote:
I raised a bug complaining of this not long ago, which received one
reply. Then silence. It's too hard a job, requiring understanding,
imagination and a flair with words.
Actually, I've
On Apr 5, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk
wrote:
On 5 Apr 2009, at 10:35, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Sunday 05 April 2009 10:22:26 Peter Humphrey wrote:
I raised a bug complaining of this not long ago, which received one
reply. Then silence. It's too hard a
On Sunday 05 April 2009 15:43:40 Saphirus Sage wrote:
I would usually consider it unwise to attempt a Gentoo installation
without access to the handbook and any other online resource (Google).
If a user is actually wondering what flags they need to enable, simply
checking wikipedia would
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 13:59 -0400, Wyatt Epp wrote:
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things
that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so.
Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show
one mask at a time. So I was
On Sunday 05 April 2009, Daniel Troeder wrote:
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 13:59 -0400, Wyatt Epp wrote:
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things
that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so.
Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:14:05 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
I like the idea but does it solve the root-cause issue - whatever that
might really be - for portage maintainers removing ebuilds and code in
the first place? If it was in the sunset overlay then we'd say they
don't have to support it
On Friday 03 April 2009 23:46:44 Mark Knecht wrote:
I think you may be correct, but the problem still exist. The
problem is that you can be running an driver on your system. The
portage maintainers depreciate it. the ebuilds get stripped form my
machine. Sometime later I choose to clean up
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:24:58 +0300, Arttu V. wrote:
- Managing USE flags is sometimes quite irritating, having to fidget
around /etc/make.conf, /etc/portage/package.use and such with
everyone's favourite text editors. (Maybe I'm micromanaging them too
much?)
emerge flagedit
- Keeping the
On Saturday 04 April 2009 01:24:58 Arttu V. wrote:
- Portage 2.2 stopping dead with you should re-emerge foo with USE=bar
with the new cat/foo[bar]-style dependencies.
Sadly, that one is unavoidable. You have a circumstance where it is not
possible to continue and the missing bit must be fixed
On 4 Apr 2009, at 08:56, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:24:58 +0300, Arttu V. wrote:
...
- Difficulty of predicting how long some new package compilations
(with
dependencies, upgrades and revdep-rebuilds etc) will actually take
(genlop -t only knows about individual packages
On 4/4/09, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:24:58 +0300, Arttu V. wrote:
- Managing USE flags is sometimes quite irritating, having to fidget
around /etc/make.conf, /etc/portage/package.use and such with
everyone's favourite text editors. (Maybe I'm micromanaging
* Alan McKinnon (alan.mckin...@gmail.com) [04.04.09 09:57]:
emerge --lock some-package-some-version
I find this suggestion very good, and would like to ask the more
experienced participants, if such thing was thought of before.
I'm thinking about some options to freeze a system totally,
On 4/4/09, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
Do you really need to know EXACTLY how many? Or
can you just accept a little patience as the cost of using Gentoo?
I'd be happy for a modest, rough guesstimator. A Gentoo emerge
weather forecast-gauge/meter if you will. :)
I'm currently
Wyatt Epp wrote:
Greets,
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that
I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things
like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask
at a time. So I was curious...what have people that
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:55:47 +0300, Arttu V. wrote:
Do you really need to know EXACTLY how many? Or
can you just accept a little patience as the cost of using Gentoo?
I'd be happy for a modest, rough guesstimator. A Gentoo emerge
weather forecast-gauge/meter if you will. :)
Before
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:54:50 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I'd like a way to completely lock a package to the current running
version, and be able to do something like this:
emerge --lock some-package-some-version
emerge could then move the ebuild to a local overlay, mask out higher
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:06:49 +0300, Arttu V. wrote:
emerge flagedit
Yes, flagedit sure helps on a single box, but when running several
Gentoo boxes, with slightly differing USE settings, arches and whatnot
(firewall, server, old box for light browsing/office work, new-ish
multimedia/gaming
I am annoyed by a little more generous thing lately, which i am afraid
isn't fixable by a summer of code. But you wanted to know what annoys
me, so here it is.
There was a lib update, that broke sancho a while ago. A new version of
sancho fixed this. But i had to use this new version from the
On Saturday 04 April 2009 22:42:00 Norman Rieß wrote:
I am annoyed by a little more generous thing lately, which i am afraid
isn't fixable by a summer of code. But you wanted to know what annoys
me, so here it is.
There was a lib update, that broke sancho a while ago. A new version of
sancho
Greets,
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I
had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the
danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at a time. So
I was curious...what have people that are *not* myself and my
On Friday 03 April 2009, Wyatt Epp wrote:
or the way portage will only show one mask at a time.
that
* Wyatt Epp (wyatt@gmail.com) [03.04.09 20:00]:
Greets,
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I
had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the
danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at a time. So
I
2009/4/3 Sebastian Günther sam...@guenther-roetgen.de:
Well honestly: nothing lately. depclean had never removed something what
a -avtDuN and a revdep-rebuild couldn't repair.
See, though, that's exactly the problem I'm talking about. :) Right
now it seems a good chunk of the population uses
2009/4/3 Sebastian Günther sam...@guenther-roetgen.de:
Well honestly: nothing lately. depclean had never removed something what
a -avtDuN and a revdep-rebuild couldn't repair.
I use depclean after every update of world for the past 5 years and
never had any disaster... I always thought the
Wyatt Epp wrote:
BTW: There is no need for an installer...
I'm inclined to agree with this. Installers lack flexibility.
I'd like to have a possibility of unattended installation.
Some kind of script which loads a prepared text-file with
parameters and does the rest.
There is a lot of
On Friday 03 April 2009, Jarry wrote:
Wyatt Epp wrote:
BTW: There is no need for an installer...
I'm inclined to agree with this. Installers lack flexibility.
I'd like to have a possibility of unattended installation.
Some kind of script which loads a prepared text-file with
parameters
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Wyatt Epp wyatt@gmail.com wrote:
Greets,
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I
had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the
danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at
On Friday 03 April 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Wyatt Epp wyatt@gmail.com wrote:
Greets,
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that
I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like
the danger of
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:27:57 +0200, Jarry wrote:
I'd like to have a possibility of unattended installation.
Some kind of script which loads a prepared text-file with
parameters and does the rest.
http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/quickstart.php
--
Neil Bothwick
We are upping our standards -
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
SNIP
portage does not remove the packages from the distfiles directory and all
ebuilds are available from cvs even years after they have been removed.
First comment is incorrect, or correct if you're doing
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
SNIP
portage does not remove the packages from the distfiles directory and all
ebuilds are available from cvs even years after they
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
SNIP
portage does not remove the packages from the distfiles
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Maybe a sunset overlay with old obsolete ebuilds to complement the
sunrise overlay of things-yet-to-hit portage?
I like the idea but does it solve the root-cause issue - whatever that
might really be - for
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Maybe a sunset overlay with old obsolete ebuilds to complement the
sunrise overlay of things-yet-to-hit portage?
I like the idea
090403 Wyatt Epp wrote:
what have people that are *not* myself and my mate noticed
that is mildly irritating and disruptive to the Gentoo experience?
Nothing at all serious: I remain very grateful to those who do the work.
But, I submitted Bug 255463 back on 2009-01-19 there's been no reply.
Wyatt Epp wrote:
So I was curious...what have people that are /not/ myself and my mate
noticed that is mildly irritating and disruptive to the Gentoo experience?
Mildly irritating, disruptive, etc:
- Managing USE flags is sometimes quite irritating, having to fidget
around /etc/make.conf,
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Wyatt Epp wyatt@gmail.com wrote:
Greets,
So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I
had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the
danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at
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