Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-26 Thread Dean Matzkov
You're probably thinking of this: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=256188 It's a relatively rare bug, but it is quite annoying when it does happen. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There are three blockers holding baselayout-2/openrc back, none

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:39 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, Dean Matzkov did opine thusly: You're probably thinking of this: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=256188 It's a relatively rare bug, but it is quite annoying when it does happen. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-25 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 00:29:30 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Although, perhaps I'm missing something but doesn't alpha come *before* release candidate? :) Yes, but: 2.2.0_alpha1 comes *after* 2.2_rc99 It should

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 07:18:23 -0700 (PDT), BRM wrote: 2.2.0_alpha1 comes *after* 2.2_rc99 It should also come after 2.2, but I appear to have missed that release. Why? 2.2 == 2.2.0 Not in portage's eyes. So 2.2.0_alpha1 would make a logical progression. Since when did an

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-24 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 10/23/2010 5:03 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 02:50:26 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: You're mixing two different definitions of stable. Portage 2.2 is certainly reliable, but it is anything but stable with a new version coming out every day at the moment,. I'm waiting for

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 10:30:55 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: Maybe someone decided that Gentoo is not Debian and 99 release candidates should be enough for a bunch of python scripts. Looks like someone agrees with you: [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha1 [2.2_rc91] Although,

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-24 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2010-10-24 at 10:30 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: Looks like someone agrees with you: [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha1 [2.2_rc91] Although, perhaps I'm missing something but doesn't alpha come *before* release candidate? :) One could argue that if you've had as many

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:30 on Sunday 24 October 2010, Mike Edenfield did opine thusly: On 10/23/2010 5:03 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 02:50:26 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: You're mixing two different definitions of stable. Portage 2.2 is certainly reliable, but

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 00:29:30 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Although, perhaps I'm missing something but doesn't alpha come *before* release candidate? :) Yes, but: 2.2.0_alpha1 comes *after* 2.2_rc99 It should also come after 2.2, but I appear to have missed that release. 99 release

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-23 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 02:50:26 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: You're mixing two different definitions of stable. Portage 2.2 is certainly reliable, but it is anything but stable with a new version coming out every day at the moment,. I'm waiting for tomorrow

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-23 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 22 October 2010 21:52:18 Dale wrote: I'm just hoping that when the switch comes, it is painless. It was for me - so much so that I wondered what all the fuss had been about. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-23 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 02:48:58AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:50 on Friday 22 October 2010, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem did opine thusly: It's openrc-${PV}+1 - there's no question about that. Until someone actually ponies up and commits something

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-23 Thread daid kahl
On 22 October 2010 11:02, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, Well here it seems that openrc is going ~arch http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-688090.html So has it been decided that openrc is the way forward? Any caveats with openrc we should be aware of? Just to put in my

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Michael Hampicke
Any caveats with openrc we should be aware of? # genlop -l | grep openrc Thu Apr 24 14:05:53 2008 sys-apps/openrc-0.2.2 I've been running baselayout2/openrc oder 2.5 years now without any problems. Of course this does not mean it will run smoothly on your gentoo box. As I recall

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread David Relson
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 12:13:16 +0200 Michael Hampicke wrote: Any caveats with openrc we should be aware of? # genlop -l | grep openrc Thu Apr 24 14:05:53 2008 sys-apps/openrc-0.2.2 I've been running baselayout2/openrc oder 2.5 years now without any problems. Of course this does not

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 07:18:38 -0400, David Relson wrote: As I recall upgrading to b2/openrc involves lots of changed config files (mostly conf.d init init.d), so you have to be a little careful. My recollection was of (1) being scared that I'd get the changes wrong for baselayout2

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Michael Hampicke gentoo-u...@hadt.biz wrote: Any caveats with openrc we should be aware of? # genlop -l | grep openrc     Thu Apr 24 14:05:53 2008 sys-apps/openrc-0.2.2 I've been running baselayout2/openrc oder 2.5 years now without any problems. Of course

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Stroller
On 22 Oct 2010, at 12:29, Neil Bothwick wrote: ... Openrc will be stabilised at some time, so you may as well do the upgrade when you feel like it rather that when the devs decide to flip a keyword. I thought this was a matter of debate - Openrc was IIRC the creation of Roy Marples, who was

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 17:19:51 +0100, Stroller wrote: ... Openrc will be stabilised at some time, so you may as well do the upgrade when you feel like it rather that when the devs decide to flip a keyword. I thought this was a matter of debate - Openrc was IIRC the creation of Roy

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 22.10.2010 17:06, schrieb Paul Hartman: Same here, no problems since day 1 in fully ~amd64 Gentoo system. Same here (just for the records).

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:19 on Friday 22 October 2010, Stroller did opine thusly: On 22 Oct 2010, at 12:29, Neil Bothwick wrote: ... Openrc will be stabilised at some time, so you may as well do the upgrade when you feel like it rather that when the devs decide to flip a

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 08:54:25PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 17:19:51 +0100, Stroller wrote: ... Openrc will be stabilised at some time, so you may as well do the upgrade when you feel like it rather that when the devs decide to flip a keyword. I thought

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:19 on Friday 22 October 2010, Stroller did opine thusly: On 22 Oct 2010, at 12:29, Neil Bothwick wrote: ... Openrc will be stabilised at some time, so you may as well do the upgrade when you feel like it rather that when the

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:37 on Friday 22 October 2010, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem did opine thusly: I understood the future of Openrc within Gentoo to be in question: http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_ce55de133ca592b638db758c9e457 370.xml An interesting read, until

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:52 on Friday 22 October 2010, Dale did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:19 on Friday 22 October 2010, Stroller did opine thusly: On 22 Oct 2010, at 12:29, Neil Bothwick wrote: ... Openrc will be stabilised at

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:59:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:37 on Friday 22 October 2010, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem did opine thusly: I understood the future of Openrc within Gentoo to be in question:

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:52:18 -0500, Dale wrote: That was what I recalled about the openrc discussion too. It is coming but just not sure when. Me, I'm not switching until it starts getting closer to that time. It, like some of the newer versions of portage, appears to be stable and is

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:52:18 -0500, Dale wrote: That was what I recalled about the openrc discussion too. It is coming but just not sure when. Me, I'm not switching until it starts getting closer to that time. It, like some of the newer versions of portage, appears

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Stroller
On 22 Oct 2010, at 21:32, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... Did you and I read the same mail thread? I read all of it - did you? Apparently you have poorer reading comprehension that I do: That Gentoo-dev thread was 3 or 4 months ago, and I haven't read all of it today. I would stand by my advice:

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:50 on Friday 22 October 2010, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem did opine thusly: It's openrc-${PV}+1 - there's no question about that. Until someone actually ponies up and commits something other than openrc to the tree, it's gonna stay on openrc. I

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:13 on Saturday 23 October 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:52:18 -0500, Dale wrote: That was what I recalled about the openrc discussion too. It is coming but just not sure when. Me, I'm not switching until it starts getting

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:26 on Saturday 23 October 2010, Dale did opine thusly: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:52:18 -0500, Dale wrote: That was what I recalled about the openrc discussion too. It is coming but just not sure when. Me, I'm not switching until it

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:43 on Saturday 23 October 2010, Stroller did opine thusly: On 22 Oct 2010, at 21:32, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... Did you and I read the same mail thread? I read all of it - did you? Apparently you have poorer reading comprehension that I do: That

[gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-21 Thread James
Hello, Well here it seems that openrc is going ~arch http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-688090.html So has it been decided that openrc is the way forward? Any caveats with openrc we should be aware of? James

Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?

2010-10-21 Thread Beau Henderson
That post is 2 years old. IMHO something that's not been stabalized in that long of a period of time is worth waiting for unless you full on ~arch already. That said, I use Calculate linux which is mostly stable but has OpenRC by default and I don't have any issues. On 10/22/10 12:02, James