Re: [gentoo-user] emerge new package for no reason??
On Saturday 09 September 2006 03:41, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Saturday 09 September 2006 04:25, Dale wrote: Yea, I know about aim being gone. My wife uses this once in a blue moon and she !HAS! to have aim. Can't she use Gaim, Kopete, etc. - or is the GUI important for her? Well, if you don't care about that it is no longer supported you can always download the ebuild from cvs [1] or copy it from /var/db/pkg/net-im/aim and put it in your overlay. [1] http://viewcvs.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-im/aim/?hideattic=0 There remains of course the issue of security holes that may be discovered but not reported, or fixed, as already mentioned. -- Regards, Mick pgpzqLy4uowJR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge new package for no reason??
On Saturday 09 September 2006 09:09, Dale wrote: She's a windoze person. Before we met, she didn't even know Linux existed. After seeing mine run 24/7 for several months without a reboot, or more importantly a crash, she's warming up. Her XP box crashed twice so far. I rescued her data for her though. That helped. She does need a GUI thing though. Console would certainly scare her off in a hurry. Now to check into Gaim and Kopete. Here I go installing more stuff. I already have about 900 on here. O_O My wife's a M$Windoze Certified Engineer (what a ridiculous concept!). One of the first things I do when I secure Windoze is to remove Outlook Express and Windows Instant Messenger from the default installation. So, to keep her quiet I installed the Gaim binary for M$Windoze onto her machine and set it up so that it logs her in automatically upon bootup. Didn't have any complaints yet. I am thinking that once she is familiar with the GUI (FF, Thundebird, Gaim) she will switch easier to Linux. -- Regards, Mick pgp1RPGP3aXFa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge new package for no reason??
Mick wrote: On Saturday 09 September 2006 09:09, Dale wrote: My wife's a M$Windoze Certified Engineer (what a ridiculous concept!). One of the first things I do when I secure Windoze is to remove Outlook Express and Windows Instant Messenger from the default installation. So, to keep her quiet I installed the Gaim binary for M$Windoze onto her machine and set it up so that it logs her in automatically upon bootup. Didn't have any complaints yet. I am thinking that once she is familiar with the GUI (FF, Thundebird, Gaim) she will switch easier to Linux. We met back last December. She was leary at first until her desktop crashed. It would boot up sometimes but the keyboard and mouse would not work at all. I mean nothing at all. I tried to reinstall on top of itself but it didn't help any. I just took the drive out and copied the whole thing over. I then deleted the partitions and such and reinstalled. It lasted for a while then it died again, different but dead just the same. Later on she noticed that I had not rebooted mine and she said something about it. I showed her my gkrellm thing and it shows uptime. I was up over a month. I then showed her where I was up for ~240 days until a hurricane put my lights out. She was impressed. I put the iceing on when I said I didn't need all the anti-virus crap. It really got her when I told her it was free but donations were appreciated. That was about the time we had to go buy a new XP CD since she lost the stupid key for hers. She takes college courses online and they require windoze for some reason. She did have trouble with IE once and said she wished I could put Linux on there for her. She's getting there. Right now she is really sick. So maybe later she will take a better look at mine and come on around. I do about the same for my bro. I installed Mozilla for his browser and email. The only time they use IE is to go to the site where she works and it requires IE for that. The use Mozilla for everything else. His install has been on there for about 2 years now. He is religious about Norton and not opening nothing unless I sent it to him via email. If he gets something iffy, he sends it to me first. I let him know if it is a bug or not. He does need a reinstall but he is on dial-up and it sucks to download all those patches/updates. Thanks for the help. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge new package for no reason??
On Saturday 09 September 2006 03:53, Dale wrote: I did my emerge --sync andthen did a emerge -uvDp world. This is what I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -uvDp world Add --tree to this command in order to see what is pulling it in. These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies \ !!! Ebuilds for the following packages are either all !!! masked or don't exist: net-im/aim You really should do something when you see warnings like this. net-im/aim was masked for removal more than five weeks ago. It was removed from the tree yesterday. There are more viable alternatives so I suggest you unmerge it and use something else. ... done! [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xplsprinters-1.0.1 USE=-debug 75 kB Total size of downloads: 75 kB [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery depends xplsprinters [ Searching for packages depending on xplsprinters... ] By default equery shows only dependencies of what is currently installed. It may miss something but more probably something you have installed got xplsprinters added as a deep dependency. -- Bo Andresen pgpYL0ArASy1p.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge new package for no reason??
On 9/8/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I did my emerge --sync andthen did a emerge -uvDp world. This is what I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -uvDp world Add --tree to see what is pulling in the new packages. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery depends xplsprinters [ Searching for packages depending on xplsprinters... ] Equery depends is unfortunately broken and unreliable. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge new package for no reason??
On Saturday 09 September 2006 04:25, Dale wrote: Yea, I know about aim being gone. My wife uses this once in a blue moon and she !HAS! to have aim. Well, if you don't care about that it is no longer supported you can always download the ebuild from cvs [1] or copy it from /var/db/pkg/net-im/aim and put it in your overlay. [1] http://viewcvs.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-im/aim/?hideattic=0 -- Bo Andresen pgpIANwd7gcMz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge new package for no reason??
On Saturday 09 September 2006 06:24, b.n. wrote: Calculating world dependencies \ !!! Ebuilds for the following packages are either all !!! masked or don't exist: net-im/aim You really should do something when you see warnings like this. net-im/aim was masked for removal more than five weeks ago. It was removed from the tree yesterday. There are more viable alternatives so I suggest you unmerge it and use something else. Huh? Usually I ignored these warnings unless there was a good reason to care about. What happens if I leave an old no more maintained package on my system? can I b0rk things? Well, maybe it's just me but I prefer to get rid of warnings from emerge, get revdep-rebuild to report nothing to rebuild and get emerge --depclean to report nothing to remove. There are proper ways to fix all of these things. In this particular case I guess the worst that can happen is that a security hole in aim is discovered and since nobody is maintaining it you never get to know... -- Bo Andresen pgpZTiMkFHv2C.pgp Description: PGP signature
