Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-08-04 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:10:25 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wed 03 August 2011 17:44:08 Willie Wong did opine thusly: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 01:38:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's sensible really - portage is not the only package manager out there and therefore should not be in

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-08-04 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:00 AM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:10:25 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wed 03 August 2011 17:44:08 Willie Wong did opine thusly: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 01:38:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's sensible really -

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-08-04 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 12:10:25AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Though it is silly IMHO that portage would want to remove itself with depclean. Could it not be hardcoded into portage that it should try to keep itself updated and not commit suicide? (Independently of the @system sets.)

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-08-03 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 01:38:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's sensible really - portage is not the only package manager out there and therefore should not be in @system. The user did not put portage in world, and did not use -D, so portage is not updating the package. The solution

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-08-03 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 03.08.2011 23:44, schrieb Willie Wong: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 01:38:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's sensible really - portage is not the only package manager out there and therefore should not be in @system. The user did not put portage in world, and did not use -D, so portage is

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-08-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed 03 August 2011 17:44:08 Willie Wong did opine thusly: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 01:38:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's sensible really - portage is not the only package manager out there and therefore should not be in @system. The user did not put portage in world, and did not use

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-08-01 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:02:22 AM Florian Philipp wrote: @system used to contain portage. It doesn't by default, anymore. If you do `emerge -pv --depclean`, portage should try to remove itself. Just add it to @world by doing `emerge --noreplace portage` It doesn't try this on my system.

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-08-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Monday, August 1 at 12:41 (+0200), Joost Roeleveld said: On Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:02:22 AM Florian Philipp wrote: @system used to contain portage. It doesn't by default, anymore. If you do `emerge -pv --depclean`, portage should try to remove itself. Just add it to @world by

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-07-31 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sunday, July 31 at 05:44 (+0100), Stroller said: Hi there, I kinda feel I'm opening myself up for ridicule in asking this, but I'm on x86 stable (i.e. not ~x86) and this behaviour seems to have changed recently. During a recent `emerge --sync` I received the an update to portage

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-07-31 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 31.07.2011 06:44, schrieb Stroller: Hi there, I kinda feel I'm opening myself up for ridicule in asking this, but I'm on x86 stable (i.e. not ~x86) and this behaviour seems to have changed recently. During a recent `emerge --sync` I received the an update to portage is available -

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 31 July 2011 09:54:07 Albert Hopkins wrote: Or perhaps I'm just not understanding the problem. He's asking why upgrading world or system doesn't include upgrading portage. Or perhaps I'm just not understanding the problem. :-) -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-07-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun 31 July 2011 12:08:01 Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: On Sunday 31 July 2011 09:54:07 Albert Hopkins wrote: Or perhaps I'm just not understanding the problem. He's asking why upgrading world or system doesn't include upgrading portage. Or perhaps I'm just not understanding the

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-07-31 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sunday, July 31 at 12:08 (+0100), Peter Humphrey said: On Sunday 31 July 2011 09:54:07 Albert Hopkins wrote: Or perhaps I'm just not understanding the problem. He's asking why upgrading world or system doesn't include upgrading portage. Or perhaps I'm just not understanding the

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-07-31 Thread Stroller
On 31 July 2011, at 10:02, Florian Philipp wrote: ... @system used to contain portage. It doesn't by default, anymore. If you do `emerge -pv --depclean`, portage should try to remove itself. Just add it to @world by doing `emerge --noreplace portage` Many thanks! Perfect answer. Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-07-31 Thread Stroller
On 31 July 2011, at 13:15, Albert Hopkins wrote: Yeah, sorry about that. I think my understanding was clouded by all the peripheral discussion regarding stable/unstable and different versions of portage. That and the fact that I had just gotten out of bed when I read it :P They OP could

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-07-31 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sunday, July 31 at 13:31 (+0100), Stroller said: Yeah, I specifically wanted to stave off suggestions of you should unmask the ~86 versions of portage, anyway, as I think I saw that view aired fairly robustly in another thread recently and it's really not for me. I was also quite

[gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-07-30 Thread Stroller
Hi there, I kinda feel I'm opening myself up for ridicule in asking this, but I'm on x86 stable (i.e. not ~x86) and this behaviour seems to have changed recently. During a recent `emerge --sync` I received the an update to portage is available - you're strongly advised to take it message. I'm