RE: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Laurence Perkins
-Original Message- From: Michael Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 8:21 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis On Monday, 20 September 2021 15:52:03 BST Gerrit Kuehn wrote: >> >> Just extracting stage3 over everything tha

RE: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Laurence Perkins
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 8:17 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 15:56:46 +0200, Gerrit Kuehn wrote: >> > > ~ # cat /etc/portage/package.use/py >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Gerrit Kuehn
On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 16:20:58 +0100 Michael wrote: > > Well, yeah, your mileage may vary. > Quite, if you can get your existing installation to only run a > minimal number of rebuilds to arrive at an upgraded toolchain, then > the benefit of reinstalling wouldn't be there. This could have

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Gerrit Kuehn
On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 16:17:17 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Well, this was the suggested way to go, see > > https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-05-05-python3-9.html > That news item is about going from 3.8 to 3.9, you are on 3.7. Yes and no. It started with ---

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Michael
On Monday, 20 September 2021 15:52:03 BST Gerrit Kuehn wrote: > On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 15:29:30 +0100 > > Michael wrote: > > Personally, I'd back up /home /etc and world file, plus any databases > > or websites if stored under /var/, then untar the latest stage 3 > > tarball and update @system and

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 15:56:46 +0200, Gerrit Kuehn wrote: > > > ~ # cat /etc/portage/package.use/py > > > */* PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_9 python3_8 > > > */* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_9 > > > --- > > > You should probably not mess with these variables until after your > > system is

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Gerrit Kuehn
On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 10:34:16 -0400 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > Well, this was the suggested way to go, see > > https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-05-05-python3-9.html > It was only suggested for a period of about three weeks: Uh, yes, another thing I overlooked. I should get more

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Gerrit Kuehn
On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 16:41:17 +0200 Arve Barsnes wrote: > This is because your gentoolkit installed version has no support for > python 3.9. Yes, I must have been overlooking this all the time. That's why I came here first (more/better eyes on the issue :-). > You might be able to include

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Gerrit Kuehn
On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 15:29:30 +0100 Michael wrote: > With a year old system you should question if reinstalling your > system after a back up of configuration and data files would be a > smarter approach. If you *must* upgrade your current installation > for learning or as an experiment, then

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Mon, 20 Sept 2021 at 16:32, Gerrit Kuehn wrote: > (sys-apps/portage-3.0.4-r1-3:0/0::gentoo, installed) USE="(ipc) > native-extensions rsync-verify xattr -apidoc -build -doc -gentoo-dev > (-selinux) -test" ABI_X86="(64)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_7 (-pypy3) > -python3_6 -python3_8

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Gerrit Kuehn
On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 16:31:59 +0200 Gerrit Kuehn wrote: > This looks like portage is blocked by itself... so how to solve this > one? Well, I simply installed the new virtual packages manually and used "--nodeps" on portage itself afterwards... and here we are. Looks like new portage will

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2021-09-20 at 15:56 +0200, Gerrit Kuehn wrote: > > Well, this was the suggested way to go, see > https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-05-05-python3-9.html It was only suggested for a period of about three weeks: We are planning to switch the default Python target of Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Gerrit Kuehn
On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 09:18:23 -0400 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > With our package manager written in python, you often need old python > stuff to build the new python stuff, and disabling the old python > stuff will throw a wrench into that. Even in situations where > technically some upgrade path

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Michael
On Monday, 20 September 2021 14:56:46 BST Gerrit Kuehn wrote: > Well, this was the suggested way to go, see > https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-05-05-python3-9.html > > But also when trying "emerge -1vUD @world" (be it with or without the > package.use settings), I get stuck in

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Gerrit Kuehn
On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 09:18:23 -0400 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > --- > > ~ # cat /etc/portage/package.use/py > > */* PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_9 python3_8 > > */* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_9 > > --- > You should probably not mess with these variables until after your > system is 100%

Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2021-09-20 at 14:50 +0200, Gerrit Kuehn wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to update a system that is about 1 year old. I have python3.7 > and python 3.8 installed, 3.7 is the default. After updating the repo, > it was suggested to update portage first (probably useful to support > new EAPI

[gentoo-user] python, my nemesis

2021-09-20 Thread Gerrit Kuehn
Hi, I'd like to update a system that is about 1 year old. I have python3.7 and python 3.8 installed, 3.7 is the default. After updating the repo, it was suggested to update portage first (probably useful to support new EAPI versions). I read about updating to python 3.9, so I created --- ~ # cat