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On 25 May 2015 at 10:01, Franz Fellner alpine.art...@gmail.com wrote: * llpp for pdfs I didn't know it. I seems great! I use qpdfview. And zathura on mupdf as an alternative but it has some issues. +1 for feh. -- Emanuele Rusconi
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I use: * ranger for file management (if I need a file manager); tried MC which I didn't like. Tried to use krusader (which also is a commander-like FM for kde), but it also never worked for me... I just have no need for a split view in 99% of the cases, and ranger IMHO uses the space uch better.: * notmuch + offlineimap (with an eye on isync) + msmtp for mail - there is also a notmuch extension for mutt: * feh as image viewer: * llpp for pdfs (occasionally qpdfview and evince, if I feel like it): * urxvt as terminal: * vim as an editor (with more than one eye on neovim ;)): * everything inside awesome wm: behrouz khosravi wrote: Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and fast machine is to keep the system as small as possible. So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE with i3wm. What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?) What about IRC client? Torrent client? I know that I can use google! but I would like to know your opinion. Thanks for your time.
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I also use zathura and feh. For RSS and podcasts, I use newsbeuter (and podbeuter that comes with it). Also, I'm a big fan of vim, so my browser is vimb (luakit is also a good choice IMO). BTW, Emanuele, what kind of issues do you have with zathura ? I don't have any. -- Guy-Laurent Subri On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:08:07AM +0200, Emanuele Rusconi wrote: On 25 May 2015 at 10:01, Franz Fellner alpine.art...@gmail.com wrote: * llpp for pdfs I didn't know it. I seems great! I use qpdfview. And zathura on mupdf as an alternative but it has some issues. +1 for feh. -- Emanuele Rusconi
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On 25 May 2015 at 14:33, Guy-Laurent Subri guy-laur...@subri.ch wrote: BTW, Emanuele, what kind of issues do you have with zathura ? I don't have any. For some PDFs it can't read the outline (bookmarks, whatever they are called) and freezes when I try to open the outline view. llpp seems to work fine with them. On the other hand, qpdfview has issues sometimes too, as in crashing when opening some PDFs. Those issues come from poppler, I think, because the same PDFs crashed every other poppler-based viewer I tried. That is the reason why I keep one viewer based on poppler and another one based on mupdf handy. By the way, I was looking for a pdf that crashed poppler, to test llpp on it, but I can't find it anymore (though llpp is mupdf-based, so it shouldn't have been affected, anyway). Maybe that bug has been resolved lately. -- Emanuele Rusconi
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Thanks Meino. What do you mean by: session-management = windowmanagement I dont know i3wm Its a tiling window manager. I have used it and I recommend it to anyone interested in tiling window managers. Thanks
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On 05/24/2015 05:32 PM, behrouz khosravi wrote: Torrent client? Hi behrouz, for simple torrent client I just use aria2. I never use the others.
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Hi, On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:02:13 +0430 behrouz khosravi wrote: Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and fast machine is to keep the system as small as possible. So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE with i3wm. What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?) I depends on personal preferences. I'm not sure why, but I always had problems with intensive mail traffic and mutt. Also many mails are html-base and mutt is not the best way to deal with them. (I know that html mails are disgusting, but too many people use them these days to disregard this trend completely.) So I use sylpheed. It is GUI-based, can read html mails (but not write them, he-he). So it suits me well. Your mileage may vary, of course. What about IRC client? Use irssi. It is a reliable and highly configurable CLI solution. Torrent client? Use transmission. Just compile it without qt* and gtk flags. This is a client-server application, so transmission-daemon runs as system service as unpriviledged user and all management is done via nice CLI tool transmission-remote. Also transmission is fully-fledged solution supporting all trends like dht, utp and so on. You'll love it. I know that I can use google! but I would like to know your opinion. Browser-based solution can't be lightweight, so I try to avoid them whenever possible. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgp1oUncgslOe.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On 24-05-2015 07:32 AM, behrouz khosravi wrote: Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and fast machine is to keep the system as small as possible. So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE with i3wm. What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?) What about IRC client? I like weechat Torrent client? I like aria2 I know that I can use google! but I would like to know your opinion. Thanks for your time. I also use Elinks, mccaber and vim. Cheers, Sebas
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On 24/05/15 15:01, Andrew Savchenko wrote: I depends on personal preferences. I'm not sure why, but I always had problems with intensive mail traffic and mutt. Also many mails are html-base and mutt is not the best way to deal with them. (I know that html mails are disgusting, but too many people use them these days to disregard this trend completely.) You can display html mails in mutt via www-client/links (and other) [1]. It works very well for me. Also you might want to have net-mail/isync or net-mail/offlineimap and mail-mta/msmtp or some other sendmail-compatible client because mutt blocks while talking with the remote host. What about IRC client? Use irssi. It is a reliable and highly configurable CLI solution. Just throwing net-irc/weechat in there for good measure. [1] https://www.debian-administration.org/article/75/Reading_HTML_email_with_Mutt
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On May 24, 2015 3:33 AM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and fast machine is to keep the system as small as possible. So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE with i3wm. What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?) Mutt is hard to beat What about IRC client? You'll want IRSSI Torrent client? rtorrent I know that I can use google! but I would like to know your opinion. Thanks for your time. Ymmv, but this is what I use. Also there are several good apps that run in an x session without KDE. Others c@n offer advice on them.
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Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am 24.05.2015 um 16:14 schrieb waben...@gmail.com: behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE with i3wm. What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?) Many years ago I also looked for a replacement for kmail, because kde3 was not longer supported and I disliked kde4. First I used thunderbird but I was not very lucky with it (filters were poor and enigmail also was not very komfortable IIRC). I've tested all available e-mail clients and at the end I sticked with claws mail. I'm still using this client and I'm very lucky with it. However, if you prefer HTML-Mail, then it is maybe not the best choice for you. Btw, I'm using geany as text editor, ding as dictionary, thunar as filemanager (sometimes also caja), qpdfview as document viewer, geeqie as image viewer, sonata as mpd client, audacious as music player and xfce as DE. He actually asked for console tools. The tools you listed are only GUI tools. Sorry. I overlooked this detail. -- Regards wabe
[gentoo-user] recommended applications
Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and fast machine is to keep the system as small as possible. So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE with i3wm. What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?) What about IRC client? Torrent client? I know that I can use google! but I would like to know your opinion. Thanks for your time.
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Am 24.05.2015 um 16:14 schrieb waben...@gmail.com: behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE with i3wm. What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?) Many years ago I also looked for a replacement for kmail, because kde3 was not longer supported and I disliked kde4. First I used thunderbird but I was not very lucky with it (filters were poor and enigmail also was not very komfortable IIRC). I've tested all available e-mail clients and at the end I sticked with claws mail. I'm still using this client and I'm very lucky with it. However, if you prefer HTML-Mail, then it is maybe not the best choice for you. Btw, I'm using geany as text editor, ding as dictionary, thunar as filemanager (sometimes also caja), qpdfview as document viewer, geeqie as image viewer, sonata as mpd client, audacious as music player and xfce as DE. He actually asked for console tools. The tools you listed are only GUI tools.
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On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 12:07 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: I dont know i3wm Its a tiling window manager. I have used it and I recommend it to anyone interested in tiling window managers. What's your take on xmonad? +1 for irssi midnight commander anyone?
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behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and fast machine is to keep the system as small as possible. So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE with i3wm. What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?) Many years ago I also looked for a replacement for kmail, because kde3 was not longer supported and I disliked kde4. First I used thunderbird but I was not very lucky with it (filters were poor and enigmail also was not very komfortable IIRC). I've tested all available e-mail clients and at the end I sticked with claws mail. I'm still using this client and I'm very lucky with it. However, if you prefer HTML-Mail, then it is maybe not the best choice for you. Btw, I'm using geany as text editor, ding as dictionary, thunar as filemanager (sometimes also caja), qpdfview as document viewer, geeqie as image viewer, sonata as mpd client, audacious as music player and xfce as DE. -- Regards wabe
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behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com [15-05-24 12:39]: Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and fast machine is to keep the system as small as possible. So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE with i3wm. What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?) What about IRC client? Torrent client? I know that I can use google! but I would like to know your opinion. Thanks for your time. Hi behrouz, If you want to be fast and non-gui-applications are as acceptable for as gui-applications for you... kmail = mutt/muttng gui-editors = vim xine-gui = mplayer/mpv session-management = windowmanagement I dont know i3wm (which simply means I dont know ... there is nothing hidden between the lines :) I am using openbox. Only my two cent... ;) Have fun! Best regards, Meino
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Am 24.05.2015 um 12:32 schrieb behrouz khosravi: Torrent client? rtorrent is quite good.
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My pattern: 1. Use FVWM for 5 years. 2. Get sick of it. 3. Try every wm out there and find they all suck nuts. 4. Go to step 1. -- IQ is a measure of how stupid you feel. Powers are not rights.
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On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 03:02:13PM +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and fast machine is to keep the system as small as possible. So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE with i3wm. What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?) Note that text-based tools split the download-from-ISP, read-the-email, and upload-to-ISP functions. I use getmail to download email. I've used mutt for years as my mail-client (reading email). It's text-based, but you can have it invoke W3M to read HTML email as text email. For the filtering function, I use procmail. It allows me to read from multiple ISPs and direct email into multiple mailboxes (a many-to-many relation). For MTA (sending email out) functionality I use ssmtp. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
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Thanks everyone. +1 for mc too! On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Alan Grimes alonz...@verizon.net wrote: My pattern: 1. Use FVWM for 5 years. 2. Get sick of it. 3. Try every wm out there and find they all suck nuts. 4. Go to step 1. -- IQ is a measure of how stupid you feel. Powers are not rights.
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On 05/24/15 06:32, behrouz khosravi wrote: Torrent client? Another +1 for transmission - the transmission-remote CLI is good, and the client-server model is great. rtorrent has always seemed a little off for me, and seems to do a lot of computation in its GUI thread because it's not really that responsive. Also, i3 rocks. Alec
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On 24 May 2015 at 23:30, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: (x)emacs. But he said keep the system small! ^__^ -- Emanuele Rusconi
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Am 24.05.2015 um 12:32 schrieb behrouz khosravi: Hello everyone. After spending about a year in the world of linux (and mostly beloved gentoo!) I have realized that the key to a stable and fast machine is to keep the system as small as possible. So I am going to use console based tools mostly. I will also replace KDE with i3wm. What do you recommend as a replacement for kmail? (is mutt a good choise?) What about IRC client? Torrent client? I know that I can use google! but I would like to know your opinion. Thanks for your time. (x)emacs.
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Am 24.05.2015 um 23:53 schrieb Emanuele Rusconi: On 24 May 2015 at 23:30, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: (x)emacs. But he said keep the system small! ^__^ -- Emanuele Rusconi init=/usr/bin/emacs doesn't get smaller than that...
