Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-10-03 Thread lee
Alan Mackenzie writes: > Hello, Lee. > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 08:45:10PM +0200, lee wrote: >> Neil Bothwick writes: > >> > Patches are always more welcome than suggestions. "Fix it!" is never as >> > welcome as "here's how". I think it was Canek who said

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-10-03 Thread lee
Neil Bothwick writes: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:45:10 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Neil Bothwick writes: >> >> > Patches are always more welcome than suggestions. "Fix it!" is never >> > as welcome as "here's how". I think it was Canek who said "code >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-10-03 Thread allan gottlieb
On Sat, Oct 03 2015, l...@yagibdah.de wrote: > What is b.g.o.? http://bugs.gentoo.org allan

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-10-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 07:10:52 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > Short-term if somebody wants to write up a wiki page full of common > confusing portage error messages and improved versions of the same, > and instructions on how to handle each situation, that would both help > users today, and give the

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-10-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:45:10 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Go ahead and show me where I have demanded something. > > Your insistence that it should be changed amounts to a demand. Your > assertion that it can be done easily only

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-10-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:45:10 +0200, lee wrote: > Neil Bothwick writes: > > > Patches are always more welcome than suggestions. "Fix it!" is never > > as welcome as "here's how". I think it was Canek who said "code > > talks". > > Do you have an example for such a case?

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-29 Thread lee
Alec Ten Harmsel writes: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:52:41AM +0200, lee wrote: >> >> Alan McKinnon writes: >> >> > On 27/09/2015 21:17, lee wrote: >> > >> > Fellow, I'm done with you, really. >> > >> > You hold onto your issues with portage

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-29 Thread lee
Neil Bothwick writes: > Patches are always more welcome than suggestions. "Fix it!" is never as > welcome as "here's how". I think it was Canek who said "code talks". Do you have an example for such a case? My experience has disproved this claim, and I've even seen people

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-29 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Lee. On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 08:45:10PM +0200, lee wrote: > Neil Bothwick writes: > > Patches are always more welcome than suggestions. "Fix it!" is never as > > welcome as "here's how". I think it was Canek who said "code talks". > Do you have an example for such a

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-28 Thread lee
Alan McKinnon writes: > On 27/09/2015 21:17, lee wrote: > > > > [big snip] > >>> Seems to me you are thinking like a human (because you are one) and not >>> > seeing portage's limits. Portage has no idea what would solve the issue >>> > so can't give any recommendations

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-28 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:52:41AM +0200, lee wrote: > > Alan McKinnon writes: > > > On 27/09/2015 21:17, lee wrote: > > > > Fellow, I'm done with you, really. > > > > You hold onto your issues with portage like they were some treasured > > memory of a long-since

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 00:52:41 +0200, lee wrote: > > You hold onto your issues with portage like they were some treasured > > memory of a long-since departed loved one, while all the time > > apparently ignoring the correct valid solutions offeered by kind > > folks on this list. > > > > Let it go.

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/09/2015 17:00, lee wrote: > Alan McKinnon writes: > >> On 20/09/2015 17:28, lee wrote: >>> Neil Bothwick writes: >>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 21:36:06 +0200, lee wrote: > >> [...] > !!! Multiple package instances within a single package

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-27 Thread lee
Alan McKinnon writes: > On 20/09/2015 17:28, lee wrote: >> Neil Bothwick writes: >> >>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 21:36:06 +0200, lee wrote: > [...] !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled !!! into the

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-27 Thread lee
Alan McKinnon writes: > On 26/09/2015 11:47, lee wrote: >> Rich Freeman writes: >> >>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Alan McKinnon >>> wrote: > [...] >> It gives the same results (after syncing again), plus a message

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-27 Thread lee
Rich Freeman writes: > On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 9:51 AM, lee wrote: >> | >> | (dev-libs/boost-1.56.0-r1:0/1.56.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) >> pulled in by >> | (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot) >> | >> |

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/09/2015 21:17, lee wrote: [big snip] >> Seems to me you are thinking like a human (because you are one) and not >> > seeing portage's limits. Portage has no idea what would solve the issue >> > so can't give any recommendations worth a damn. The best it can do is >> > print some

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/09/2015 11:47, lee wrote: > Rich Freeman writes: > >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Alan McKinnon >> wrote: >>> On 19/09/2015 21:36, lee wrote: dev-libs/boost:0 (dev-libs/boost-1.56.0-r1:0/1.56.0::gentoo, ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-26 Thread lee
Rich Freeman writes: > On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> On 19/09/2015 21:36, lee wrote: >>> >>> dev-libs/boost:0 >>> >>> (dev-libs/boost-1.56.0-r1:0/1.56.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) >>> pulled in by >>> (no

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 15:51:07 +0200, lee wrote: > + need to rebuild (large) packages (like libreoffice) which I expect to > be upgraded and thus get rebuilt later anyway (to keep the package > management happy because it cannot figure this out for us and give us > a choice to upgrade these

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 9:51 AM, lee wrote: > | > | (dev-libs/boost-1.56.0-r1:0/1.56.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) > pulled in by > | (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot) > | > | (dev-libs/boost-1.55.0-r2:0/1.55.0::gentoo, ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-26 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, September 26, 2015 03:10:48 PM lee wrote: > "J. Roeleveld" writes: > > On Sunday 20 September 2015 16:25:34 lee wrote: > >> Alan McKinnon writes: > >> > On 19/09/2015 21:36, lee wrote: > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> how

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-26 Thread lee
Rich Freeman writes: > On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 1:24 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On Sunday 20 September 2015 16:25:34 lee wrote: >>> So I decided I'd better ask what to do. It's hard to believe that we >>> are seriously expected to remove lots of software

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-26 Thread lee
"J. Roeleveld" writes: > On Sunday 20 September 2015 16:25:34 lee wrote: >> Alan McKinnon writes: >> > On 19/09/2015 21:36, lee wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> how could I solve these updating problems: >> >> >> >> >> >> emerge -j 8 -a --update

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 15:10:48 +0200, lee wrote: > It seems that everyone has the problem that some versions of some > packages don't go together with some versions of other packages the > 'some versions of some packages' depend on. That's just life, and 99% of th time it either doesn't matter or

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 20:16:09 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Portage can't unwind the most recent merges so you have to rely on a > side-effect - hoping that portage will notice your package of X isn't in > the current tree then will downgrade it to one that is. You can use app-portage/demerge for

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/09/2015 18:47, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> The other one is portage snapshots. >> > >> > That sounds like something I should learn about. > See above re backups, it's just a tarball of the portage tree. Just beware of one thing. Syncing the tree and then *using* it is often a one-way

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-20 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday 20 September 2015 16:25:34 lee wrote: > Alan McKinnon writes: > > On 19/09/2015 21:36, lee wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> how could I solve these updating problems: > >> > >> > >> emerge -j 8 -a --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world > >> > >> *

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-20 Thread Paul Colquhoun
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 21:05:27 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 21:36:06 +0200, lee wrote: > > emerge -j 8 -a --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y > > @world > > > > * IMPORTANT: 4 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'. > > * Use eselect news read to view new items. > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 20:37:53 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > My impression is that using Portage has become more complicated > & its warning/error messages have not been given the necessary > attention. Complaints or pleas for help like the OP's here are quite > frequent & not all of them come from

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 20:37:53 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > >> My impression is that using Portage has become more complicated >> & its warning/error messages have not been given the necessary >> attention. Complaints or

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 11:28 AM, lee wrote: > > Should I make feature requests? > First, don't believe every post you read in gentoo-user. Just as you can post anything you want here, so can anybody else. People offer advice they think is helpful. That doesn't mean it is

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:28:25 +0200, lee wrote: > Neil Bothwick writes: > > These are unimportant, it is simply portage telling you it is not > > updating some packages to the latest available and why. Personally, I > > believe this sort of output should only be shown when

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-20 Thread lee
Alan McKinnon writes: > On 19/09/2015 21:36, lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> how could I solve these updating problems: >> >> >> emerge -j 8 -a --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world >>

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-20 Thread lee
Neil Bothwick writes: > On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 21:36:06 +0200, lee wrote: > >> emerge -j 8 -a --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y >> @world >>

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 20/09/2015 17:28, lee wrote: > Neil Bothwick writes: > >> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 21:36:06 +0200, lee wrote: >> >>> emerge -j 8 -a --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y >>> @world >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 1:24 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Sunday 20 September 2015 16:25:34 lee wrote: >> So I decided I'd better ask what to do. It's hard to believe that we >> are seriously expected to remove lots of software which we might not be >> able to install again

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 19/09/2015 21:36, lee wrote: > Hi, > > how could I solve these updating problems: > > > emerge -j 8 -a --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world > >

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 19/09/2015 21:36, lee wrote: >> >> dev-libs/boost:0 >> >> (dev-libs/boost-1.56.0-r1:0/1.56.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) >> pulled in by >> (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-19 Thread Mick
On Saturday 19 Sep 2015 21:05:27 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 21:36:06 +0200, lee wrote: > > emerge -j 8 -a --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y > > @world > > > > * IMPORTANT: 4 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'. > > * Use eselect news read to view new items. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 19/09/2015 22:05, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> media-video/ffmpeg:0 >> > >> > (media-video/ffmpeg-2.6.3:0/54.56.56::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for >> > merge) pulled in by (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages >> > in this slot) >> > >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-19 Thread Daniel Frey
On 09/19/2015 12:36 PM, lee wrote: > > > I could remove boost (and maybe reinstall it later), but I would like to > keep ffmpeg. hdf5 apparently goes back to having blender installed, > which I would also like to keep. And apparently, I would have to remove > libreoffice before I could update.

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 20/09/2015 00:17, Rich Freeman wrote: > Also, emerge running --changed-deps=y from time to time may make those > kinds of problems less likely. The first time you do it prepare to > see a LOT of stuff get rebuilt - any of those packages could cause > issues in the future but most probably will

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-19 Thread Philip Webb
150920 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 20/09/2015 00:17, Rich Freeman wrote: >> While Gentoo doesn't do as much handholding as many distros, >> the Portage output above should not be viewed >> as something we are proud of. > It's either due to it being a really hard problem > or the Portage team is

[gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-19 Thread lee
Hi, how could I solve these updating problems: emerge -j 8 -a --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world * IMPORTANT: 4 news

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 21:36:06 +0200, lee wrote: > emerge -j 8 -a --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y > @world > > > > *

[gentoo-user] update problems after profile update

2009-11-10 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi all, today I've sync my portage and noticed that I had to change my profile, from default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop to default/linux/x86/10.0. *not sure if my problem comes from changing profile... then I did my emerge -uDvpt world and found that I had to add some use flags to some packages:

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems after profile update

2009-11-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 10 November 2009 12:14:13 Arnau Bria wrote: Hi all, today I've sync my portage and noticed that I had to change my profile, from default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop to default/linux/x86/10.0. *not sure if my problem comes from changing profile... err, according to that you didn't

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems after profile update

2009-11-10 Thread Arnau Bria
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:17:20 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 10 November 2009 12:14:13 Arnau Bria wrote: profile, from default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop to default/linux/x86/10.0. *not sure if my problem comes from changing profile... err, according to that you didn't change profile

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems after profile update

2009-11-10 Thread Arnau Bria
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:40:28 -0600 Dale Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm trying to figure out WHY he had to change it from a desktop profile to a plain profile. Did the OP get told this by portage or did he change the requirements for his Gentoo install? 10.0 is the current set of

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems after profile update

2009-11-10 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 10 November 2009 12:14:13 Arnau Bria wrote: Hi all, today I've sync my portage and noticed that I had to change my profile, from default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop to default/linux/x86/10.0. *not sure if my problem comes from changing profile... err,

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems after profile update

2009-11-10 Thread Dale
Arnau Bria wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:40:28 -0600 Dale Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm trying to figure out WHY he had to change it from a desktop profile to a plain profile. Did the OP get told this by portage or did he change the requirements for his Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems after profile update

2009-11-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 10 November 2009 12:33:37 Arnau Bria wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:17:20 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 10 November 2009 12:14:13 Arnau Bria wrote: profile, from default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop to default/linux/x86/10.0. *not sure if my problem comes from changing

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems after profile update

2009-11-10 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2009/11/10 Arnau Bria ar...@emergetux.net: my first update attempt after syncing... # emerge -uDvpt world !!! Your current profile is deprecated and not supported anymore. !!! Please upgrade to the following profile if possible:        default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop To upgrade do the

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems after profile update

2009-11-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:59:00 -0600, Dale wrote: I don't think it is you. Alan, why is portage telling him that 10.0/desktop is deprecated? I'm using that profile myself with no problems. It's not, it is telling him that x86/10.0 is deprecated and that he should use x86/10.0/desktop.

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems after profile update

2009-11-10 Thread Arnau Bria
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:10:08 +0100 Daniel Pielmeier wrote: [...] Do you remember which profile you have used before. nop :-( sorry. when did the profile changed? cause my last update was 15/21 days ago... I am asking because maybe it was the 2007 or 2008 profile which was depreciated and

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems after profile update

2009-11-10 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2009/11/10 Arnau Bria ar...@emergetux.net: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:10:08 +0100 Daniel Pielmeier wrote: [...] Do you remember which profile you have used before. nop :-( sorry. when did the profile changed? cause my last update was 15/21 days ago... The profile is never changed when running

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems after profile update

2009-11-10 Thread Arnau Bria
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:44:48 +0100 Daniel Pielmeier wrote: The profile is never changed when running updates, the user has to change it by using eselect or updating the make.profile symlink by hand. There is a bug [1] open about a profile change without user interaction. It seems something

[gentoo-user] Update problems

2005-04-14 Thread Buwalda, A.
Hi all, A few days ago when doing an 'emerge -puD world' i got the message to upgrade to the 2005.0 profile. I changed the link to make.profile to fit the 2005.0 profile but since then I can't seem to update. I'm stuck with the following error: --- Calculating world dependencies | !!! All

RE: [gentoo-user] Update problems

2005-04-14 Thread Buwalda, A.
: donderdag 14 april 2005 15:19 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Update problems I changed the link to make.profile to fit the 2005.0 profile but since then I can't seem to update. I'm stuck with the following error: --- Calculating world dependencies