Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 19:51:26 BST Wols Lists wrote: > So if Dovecot is serving IMAP4 to your workstation, the emails should be > in dovecot, and cached on your workstation. For my setup, they're stored > in dovecot, and cached in thunderbird ... Almost. KMail has a 'Download messages for

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-08-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 31/07/2023 16:55, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday, 31 July 2023 15:19:22 BST Wols Lists wrote: The big question that needs answering is "Are you storing your emails in dovecot, or in kmail?" In KMail. My server has fetchmail -> postfix -> dovecot. Fetchmail collects POP3 emails from my

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 11:42:55 BST Michael wrote: > The idea being to separate the SMTP server and corresponding authentication > credentials you may send messages with, from the Sent Folder(s) each sent > messages is saved in, while using different 'From' email account identities. It seems

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-08-01 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 10:53:15 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:17:17 BST Michael wrote: > > On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:13:19 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > I thought I should be able to specify where

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 31 July 2023 18:57:59 BST Michael wrote: > On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:25:20 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:03:49 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > I already have it set up, so I hope I'd only have to deselect "Download > > > all > > > messages for offline use"

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:17:17 BST Michael wrote: > On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:13:19 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > I thought I should be able to specify where outgoing mail should be > > > put, but I can't find it now. > > > >

RE: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Laurence Perkins
> Jul 31, 2023 13:23:21 Matt Connell : > > > On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 20:16 +0300, Alexe Stefan wrote: > >>> Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire > >>> web engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people > >>> who knows full well what the answer is. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Michael
On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:13:19 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I thought I should be able to specify where outgoing mail should be > > put, but I can't find it now. > > That's a setting in the mail client. Kmail Settings > Accounts >

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 17:03:49 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > What should I do about backups of the server? Don't bother, hard disks are dead reliable these days ;-) -- Neil Bothwick .sig a .sog of sixpence. pgp0RnKsAawdG.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I thought I should be able to specify where outgoing mail should be > put, but I can't find it now. That's a setting in the mail client. -- Neil Bothwick IBM: Itty Bitty Mentality pgp1DMtkh7ZVh.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Michael
On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:25:20 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:03:49 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I already have it set up, so I hope I'd only have to deselect "Download > > all > > messages for offline use" and then drag the locally stored emails to the > > IMAP Account,

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Jack
On 2023.07.31 13:23, Matt Connell wrote: On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 20:16 +0300, Alexe Stefan wrote: > > Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire > > web > > engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people who > > knows full well what the answer is. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:25:20 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:03:49 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I already have it set up, so I hope I'd only have to deselect "Download > > all > > messages for offline use" and then drag the locally stored emails to the > > IMAP Account,

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Matt Connell
On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 20:16 +0300, Alexe Stefan wrote: > > Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire > > web > > engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people who > > knows full well what the answer is. > > What is the answer? > Mutt doesn't need a web

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Alexe Stefan
> > Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire web > engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people who > knows full well what the answer is. > What is the answer? Mutt doesn't need a web engine. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Matt Connell
On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 17:14 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I see it's a gnome program and has 17 new dependencies (to this box). Unfortunately one of them is webkit-gtk, which, if you don't have it already, is a compilation lift. Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:03:49 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > I already have it set up, so I hope I'd only have to deselect "Download all > messages for offline use" and then drag the locally stored emails to the IMAP > Account, which is shown at the top of the folder list, attached. Does that >

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 31 July 2023 02:12:00 BST Matt Connell wrote: > On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 01:29 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic > > might be a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were > > reliable. It isn't, though,

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 31 July 2023 14:26:16 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:33:18 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > But you're running the IMAP server locally, so what difference does > > > > it make? > > > > It's just the way things have 'just growed'. I could start again with > > the

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 31 July 2023 15:19:22 BST Wols Lists wrote: > The big question that needs answering is "Are you storing your emails in > dovecot, or in kmail?" In KMail. My server has fetchmail -> postfix -> dovecot. Fetchmail collects POP3 emails from my ISP and forwards it to postfix, and dovecot

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Wols Lists
On 31/07/2023 13:33, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday, 31 July 2023 08:34:05 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 31/07/2023 00:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird. Neither program cares that I

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:33:18 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > But you're running the IMAP server locally, so what difference does > > > it make? > > It's just the way things have 'just growed'. I could start again with > the server keeping the mails itself, but it's a good deal of work. Not

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 31 July 2023 08:34:05 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 31/07/2023 00:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >>> ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird. > >>> Neither program cares that I have also used the other to

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Wols Lists
On 31/07/2023 00:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird. Neither program cares that I have also used the other to read my mail. Ah, but you're using IMAP4 and leaving your emails on

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-30 Thread Matt Connell
On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 01:29 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic > might be a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were > reliable. It isn't, though, which drives me to consider alternatives. To present an alternative

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird. > > Neither program cares that I have also used the other to read my > > mail. > > Ah, but you're using IMAP4 and leaving your emails on the server. I > don't want

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 30 July 2023 20:02:47 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird. Neither > program cares that I have also used the other to read my mail. Ah, but you're using IMAP4 and leaving your emails on the server. I don't want to do that. --

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 12:23:47 +0100, Wols Lists wrote: > > Hm. I already have Dovecot on my LAN server, because KMail is > > horribly buggy with POP3, which is what my ISP offers. So fetchmail > > -> postfix -> dovecot became necessary before I could use IMAP4 in > > KMail. > > > > All incoming

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 30 July 2023 13:07:52 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > When I had kmail issues back in the day of early akonadi times (remember > Alan’s thread about data loss from then?), I tried out mutt and I’ve been > using it ever since. I configured it to my liking re. list layout, sidebar, >

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-30 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 01:53:21AM -0400 schrieb Philip Webb: > 230729 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. > > Claws mail is often mentioned hereabouts and I'd like to try it, > > but first I'd need to export KMail's 20-odd-year maildir history > > to mbox

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/07/2023 15:50, Arsen Arsenović wrote: But I DO have to care about postfix/main.cf. This makes the fundamental blunder of mixing distro defaults and local config in the SAME FILE. So yes it does offer me etc-update. But if I MISS THAT, I've just trashed my local config and have to rebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-29 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Wols Lists writes: > On 29/07/2023 14:54, Arsen Arsenović wrote: >> Again, it shouldn't be able to do that. Please check CONFIG_PROTECT >> using: portageq envvar CONFIG_PROTECT >> It should, normally, contain /etc, set by profiles/base/make.defaults. > > And here is the root of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/07/2023 14:54, Arsen Arsenović wrote: Again, it shouldn't be able to do that. Please check CONFIG_PROTECT using: portageq envvar CONFIG_PROTECT It should, normally, contain /etc, set by profiles/base/make.defaults. And here is the root of the mis-understanding between us. And also why

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-29 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Wols Lists writes: > On 29/07/2023 11:13, Arsen Arsenović wrote: >> Wols Lists writes: >> >>> On 29/07/2023 03:37, Bryan Gardiner wrote: User of Claws with a local maildir here. One mail per file always felt safer to me. If you do want to keep using maildir, net-mail/dovecot

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/07/2023 12:01, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hm. I already have Dovecot on my LAN server, because KMail is horribly buggy with POP3, which is what my ISP offers. So fetchmail -> postfix -> dovecot became necessary before I could use IMAP4 in KMail. All incoming emails are transferred to my

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/07/2023 11:13, Arsen Arsenović wrote: Wols Lists writes: On 29/07/2023 03:37, Bryan Gardiner wrote: User of Claws with a local maildir here. One mail per file always felt safer to me. If you do want to keep using maildir, net-mail/dovecot provides IMAP access to ~/.maildir out of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 29 July 2023 07:56:21 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 01:29:59 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Claws mail is often mentioned hereabouts, and I'd like to try it, but > > first I'd need to export KMail's 20-odd-year maildir history to mbox > > format. Is it enough to run

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-29 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Wols Lists writes: > On 29/07/2023 03:37, Bryan Gardiner wrote: >> User of Claws with a local maildir here. One mail per file always >> felt safer to me. If you do want to keep using maildir, >> net-mail/dovecot provides IMAP access to ~/.maildir out of the box, >> and I've found this

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-29 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 29 July 2023 01:29:59 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic might be > a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were reliable. It > isn't, though, which drives me to consider alternatives. I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/07/2023 03:37, Bryan Gardiner wrote: User of Claws with a local maildir here. One mail per file always felt safer to me. If you do want to keep using maildir, net-mail/dovecot provides IMAP access to ~/.maildir out of the box, and I've found this combination to be reliable. Just a tip

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 01:29:59 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Claws mail is often mentioned hereabouts, and I'd like to try it, but > first I'd need to export KMail's 20-odd-year maildir history to mbox > format. Is it enough to run KMail's Import/Export Data tool to do this? > It should be, on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-28 Thread Philip Webb
230729 Peter Humphrey wrote: > I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. > Claws mail is often mentioned hereabouts and I'd like to try it, > but first I'd need to export KMail's 20-odd-year maildir history > to mbox format. I recommend a look at Mutt, which I've used very happily since c

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-28 Thread Bryan Gardiner
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 01:29:59 +0100 Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic > might be a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were > reliable. It isn't, though, which drives me to consider alternatives. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-28 Thread Jack
On 2023.07.28 20:29, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic might be a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were reliable. It isn't, though, which drives me to consider alternatives. Claws mail is often

Re: [gentoo-user] email clients/Balsa: Was: Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread Jack
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Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?

2007-03-01 Thread Mark Knecht
On 2/28/07, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 14:23 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: As I said in a response a few minutes ago the emerge -e world, although not completely done, appears to have fixed it. Evolution is now running fine. I will wait for the emerge -e

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?

2007-02-28 Thread James Ausmus
On 2/27/07, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever reason all versions of Evolution in Portage crash. I cannot as of yet get a backtrace to determine why. Even if I could a fast solution would depend on other folks

RE: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?

2007-02-28 Thread Nelson, David \(ED, PARD\)
-Original Message- From: James Ausmus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 February 2007 08:45 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution? On 2/27/07, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've got a machine

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?

2007-02-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On 2/28/07, Nelson, David (ED, PARD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: James Ausmus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 February 2007 08:45 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution? On 2/27/07, Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?

2007-02-28 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 28 February 2007 11:30:23 Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks. Yes, I'm completely through the emerge -DuN world, revdep-rebuild process. No help there. Evolution continues to crash. We were running Evolution 2.4. Unfortunately it's no longer in portage. I've built every unmasked and masked

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?

2007-02-28 Thread Matthias Langer
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 20:59 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi all, I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever reason all versions of Evolution in Portage crash. I cannot as of yet get a backtrace to determine why. I'm using evolution-2.8.2.1 and it works fine; can you

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?

2007-02-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On 2/28/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 28 February 2007 11:30:23 Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks. Yes, I'm completely through the emerge -DuN world, revdep-rebuild process. No help there. Evolution continues to crash. We were running Evolution 2.4. Unfortunately it's

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?

2007-02-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On 2/28/07, Matthias Langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 20:59 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi all, I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever reason all versions of Evolution in Portage crash. I cannot as of yet get a backtrace to determine why.

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?

2007-02-28 Thread Ryan Sims
On 2/28/07, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/28/07, Matthias Langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 20:59 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi all, I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever reason all versions of Evolution in Portage crash. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?

2007-02-28 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Mark Knecht wrote: If it still fails then I'll have to return here one more time to ask questions about what needs to be rebuilt. Have you tried moving ~/.evolution out of the way? Maybe it's just a broken config file that makes all versions of Evo stumble. Must I rebuild everything or

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?

2007-02-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On 2/28/07, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/28/07, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/28/07, Matthias Langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 20:59 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi all, I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?

2007-02-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On 2/28/07, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: If it still fails then I'll have to return here one more time to ask questions about what needs to be rebuilt. Have you tried moving ~/.evolution out of the way? Maybe it's just a broken config file that makes all

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?

2007-02-28 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: Hi Benno, It failed in a new account I created just to test that. As I said in a response a few minutes ago the emerge -e world, although not completely done, appears to have fixed it. Evolution is now running fine. I will wait for the emerge -e world to finish up

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?

2007-02-28 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 14:23 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: As I said in a response a few minutes ago the emerge -e world, although not completely done, appears to have fixed it. Evolution is now running fine. I will wait for the emerge -e world to finish up tonight and ensure it's still