On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 19:51:26 BST Wols Lists wrote:
> So if Dovecot is serving IMAP4 to your workstation, the emails should be
> in dovecot, and cached on your workstation. For my setup, they're stored
> in dovecot, and cached in thunderbird ...
Almost. KMail has a 'Download messages for
On 31/07/2023 16:55, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Monday, 31 July 2023 15:19:22 BST Wols Lists wrote:
The big question that needs answering is "Are you storing your emails in
dovecot, or in kmail?"
In KMail.
My server has fetchmail -> postfix -> dovecot. Fetchmail collects POP3 emails
from my
On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 11:42:55 BST Michael wrote:
> The idea being to separate the SMTP server and corresponding authentication
> credentials you may send messages with, from the Sent Folder(s) each sent
> messages is saved in, while using different 'From' email account identities.
It seems
On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 10:53:15 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:17:17 BST Michael wrote:
> > On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:13:19 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > > I thought I should be able to specify where
On Monday, 31 July 2023 18:57:59 BST Michael wrote:
> On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:25:20 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:03:49 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > I already have it set up, so I hope I'd only have to deselect "Download
> > > all
> > > messages for offline use"
On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:17:17 BST Michael wrote:
> On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:13:19 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > I thought I should be able to specify where outgoing mail should be
> > > put, but I can't find it now.
> >
> >
> Jul 31, 2023 13:23:21 Matt Connell :
>
> > On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 20:16 +0300, Alexe Stefan wrote:
> >>> Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire
> >>> web engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people
> >>> who knows full well what the answer is.
>
On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:13:19 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > I thought I should be able to specify where outgoing mail should be
> > put, but I can't find it now.
>
> That's a setting in the mail client.
Kmail Settings > Accounts >
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 17:03:49 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> What should I do about backups of the server?
Don't bother, hard disks are dead reliable these days ;-)
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> I thought I should be able to specify where outgoing mail should be
> put, but I can't find it now.
That's a setting in the mail client.
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On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:25:20 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:03:49 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > I already have it set up, so I hope I'd only have to deselect "Download
> > all
> > messages for offline use" and then drag the locally stored emails to the
> > IMAP Account,
On 2023.07.31 13:23, Matt Connell wrote:
On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 20:16 +0300, Alexe Stefan wrote:
> > Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire
> > web
> > engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people
who
> > knows full well what the answer is.
>
>
On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:25:20 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:03:49 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > I already have it set up, so I hope I'd only have to deselect "Download
> > all
> > messages for offline use" and then drag the locally stored emails to the
> > IMAP Account,
On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 20:16 +0300, Alexe Stefan wrote:
> > Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire
> > web
> > engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people who
> > knows full well what the answer is.
>
> What is the answer?
> Mutt doesn't need a web
>
> Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire web
> engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people who
> knows full well what the answer is.
>
What is the answer?
Mutt doesn't need a web engine.
>
On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 17:14 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> I see it's a gnome program and has 17 new dependencies (to this box).
Unfortunately one of them is webkit-gtk, which, if you don't have it
already, is a compilation lift.
Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire
On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:03:49 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> I already have it set up, so I hope I'd only have to deselect "Download all
> messages for offline use" and then drag the locally stored emails to the IMAP
> Account, which is shown at the top of the folder list, attached. Does that
>
On Monday, 31 July 2023 02:12:00 BST Matt Connell wrote:
> On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 01:29 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic
> > might be a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were
> > reliable. It isn't, though,
On Monday, 31 July 2023 14:26:16 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:33:18 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > > But you're running the IMAP server locally, so what difference does
> > > > it make?
> >
> > It's just the way things have 'just growed'. I could start again with
> > the
On Monday, 31 July 2023 15:19:22 BST Wols Lists wrote:
> The big question that needs answering is "Are you storing your emails in
> dovecot, or in kmail?"
In KMail.
My server has fetchmail -> postfix -> dovecot. Fetchmail collects POP3 emails
from my ISP and forwards it to postfix, and dovecot
On 31/07/2023 13:33, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Monday, 31 July 2023 08:34:05 BST Wols Lists wrote:
On 31/07/2023 00:11, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird.
Neither program cares that I
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:33:18 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > But you're running the IMAP server locally, so what difference does
> > > it make?
>
> It's just the way things have 'just growed'. I could start again with
> the server keeping the mails itself, but it's a good deal of work.
Not
On Monday, 31 July 2023 08:34:05 BST Wols Lists wrote:
> On 31/07/2023 00:11, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> >>> ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird.
> >>> Neither program cares that I have also used the other to
On 31/07/2023 00:11, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird.
Neither program cares that I have also used the other to read my
mail.
Ah, but you're using IMAP4 and leaving your emails on
On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 01:29 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic
> might be a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were
> reliable. It isn't, though, which drives me to consider alternatives.
To present an alternative
On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird.
> > Neither program cares that I have also used the other to read my
> > mail.
>
> Ah, but you're using IMAP4 and leaving your emails on the server. I
> don't want
On Sunday, 30 July 2023 20:02:47 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird. Neither
> program cares that I have also used the other to read my mail.
Ah, but you're using IMAP4 and leaving your emails on the server. I don't want
to do that.
--
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 12:23:47 +0100, Wols Lists wrote:
> > Hm. I already have Dovecot on my LAN server, because KMail is
> > horribly buggy with POP3, which is what my ISP offers. So fetchmail
> > -> postfix -> dovecot became necessary before I could use IMAP4 in
> > KMail.
> >
> > All incoming
On Sunday, 30 July 2023 13:07:52 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> When I had kmail issues back in the day of early akonadi times (remember
> Alan’s thread about data loss from then?), I tried out mutt and I’ve been
> using it ever since. I configured it to my liking re. list layout, sidebar,
>
Am Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 01:53:21AM -0400 schrieb Philip Webb:
> 230729 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years.
> > Claws mail is often mentioned hereabouts and I'd like to try it,
> > but first I'd need to export KMail's 20-odd-year maildir history
> > to mbox
On 29/07/2023 15:50, Arsen Arsenović wrote:
But I DO have to care about postfix/main.cf. This makes the fundamental blunder
of mixing distro defaults and local config in the SAME FILE. So yes it does
offer me etc-update. But if I MISS THAT, I've just trashed my local config and
have to rebuild
Wols Lists writes:
> On 29/07/2023 14:54, Arsen Arsenović wrote:
>> Again, it shouldn't be able to do that. Please check CONFIG_PROTECT
>> using: portageq envvar CONFIG_PROTECT
>> It should, normally, contain /etc, set by profiles/base/make.defaults.
>
> And here is the root of the
On 29/07/2023 14:54, Arsen Arsenović wrote:
Again, it shouldn't be able to do that. Please check CONFIG_PROTECT
using: portageq envvar CONFIG_PROTECT
It should, normally, contain /etc, set by profiles/base/make.defaults.
And here is the root of the mis-understanding between us. And also why
Wols Lists writes:
> On 29/07/2023 11:13, Arsen Arsenović wrote:
>> Wols Lists writes:
>>
>>> On 29/07/2023 03:37, Bryan Gardiner wrote:
User of Claws with a local maildir here. One mail per file always
felt safer to me. If you do want to keep using maildir,
net-mail/dovecot
On 29/07/2023 12:01, Peter Humphrey wrote:
Hm. I already have Dovecot on my LAN server, because KMail is horribly buggy
with POP3, which is what my ISP offers. So fetchmail -> postfix -> dovecot
became necessary before I could use IMAP4 in KMail.
All incoming emails are transferred to my
On 29/07/2023 11:13, Arsen Arsenović wrote:
Wols Lists writes:
On 29/07/2023 03:37, Bryan Gardiner wrote:
User of Claws with a local maildir here. One mail per file always
felt safer to me. If you do want to keep using maildir,
net-mail/dovecot provides IMAP access to ~/.maildir out of the
On Saturday, 29 July 2023 07:56:21 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 01:29:59 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Claws mail is often mentioned hereabouts, and I'd like to try it, but
> > first I'd need to export KMail's 20-odd-year maildir history to mbox
> > format. Is it enough to run
Wols Lists writes:
> On 29/07/2023 03:37, Bryan Gardiner wrote:
>> User of Claws with a local maildir here. One mail per file always
>> felt safer to me. If you do want to keep using maildir,
>> net-mail/dovecot provides IMAP access to ~/.maildir out of the box,
>> and I've found this
On Saturday, 29 July 2023 01:29:59 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic might be
> a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were reliable. It
> isn't, though, which drives me to consider alternatives.
I've
On 29/07/2023 03:37, Bryan Gardiner wrote:
User of Claws with a local maildir here. One mail per file always
felt safer to me. If you do want to keep using maildir,
net-mail/dovecot provides IMAP access to ~/.maildir out of the box,
and I've found this combination to be reliable.
Just a tip
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 01:29:59 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Claws mail is often mentioned hereabouts, and I'd like to try it, but
> first I'd need to export KMail's 20-odd-year maildir history to mbox
> format. Is it enough to run KMail's Import/Export Data tool to do this?
> It should be, on the
230729 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years.
> Claws mail is often mentioned hereabouts and I'd like to try it,
> but first I'd need to export KMail's 20-odd-year maildir history
> to mbox format.
I recommend a look at Mutt, which I've used very happily since c
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 01:29:59 +0100
Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic
> might be a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were
> reliable. It isn't, though, which drives me to consider alternatives.
>
>
On 2023.07.28 20:29, Peter Humphrey wrote:
Hello list,
I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic
might be a
better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were reliable.
It isn't,
though, which drives me to consider alternatives.
Claws mail is often
On 2020.08.20 16:11, james wrote:
On 8/20/20 1:16 PM, Jack wrote:
(Thunderbird, spike and slack). Others ?
I've been using Balsa for years.� It was originally a gnome based
app, but I use it under KDE/Plasma/openrc.� It can handle mbox,
maildir, and several other storage types.� smtp,
On 2/28/07, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 14:23 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
As I said in a response a few minutes ago the emerge -e world,
although not completely done, appears to have fixed it. Evolution is
now running fine.
I will wait for the emerge -e
On 2/27/07, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever
reason all versions of Evolution in Portage crash. I cannot as of yet
get a backtrace to determine why. Even if I could a fast solution
would depend on other folks
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Sent: 28 February 2007 08:45
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?
On 2/27/07, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I've got a machine
On 2/28/07, Nelson, David (ED, PARD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: James Ausmus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 February 2007 08:45
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?
On 2/27/07, Mark
On Wednesday 28 February 2007 11:30:23 Mark Knecht wrote:
Thanks. Yes, I'm completely through the emerge -DuN world,
revdep-rebuild process. No help there. Evolution continues to crash.
We were running Evolution 2.4. Unfortunately it's no longer in
portage. I've built every unmasked and masked
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 20:59 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
Hi all,
I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever
reason all versions of Evolution in Portage crash. I cannot as of yet
get a backtrace to determine why.
I'm using evolution-2.8.2.1 and it works fine; can you
On 2/28/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 28 February 2007 11:30:23 Mark Knecht wrote:
Thanks. Yes, I'm completely through the emerge -DuN world,
revdep-rebuild process. No help there. Evolution continues to crash.
We were running Evolution 2.4. Unfortunately it's
On 2/28/07, Matthias Langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 20:59 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
Hi all,
I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever
reason all versions of Evolution in Portage crash. I cannot as of yet
get a backtrace to determine why.
On 2/28/07, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/28/07, Matthias Langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 20:59 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
Hi all,
I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever
reason all versions of Evolution in Portage crash. I
Mark Knecht wrote:
If it still fails then I'll have to return here one more time to
ask questions about what needs to be rebuilt.
Have you tried moving ~/.evolution out of the way? Maybe it's just
a broken config file that makes all versions of Evo stumble.
Must I rebuild
everything or
On 2/28/07, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/28/07, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/28/07, Matthias Langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 20:59 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
Hi all,
I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever
On 2/28/07, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
If it still fails then I'll have to return here one more time to
ask questions about what needs to be rebuilt.
Have you tried moving ~/.evolution out of the way? Maybe it's just
a broken config file that makes all
Mark Knecht wrote:
Hi Benno,
It failed in a new account I created just to test that.
As I said in a response a few minutes ago the emerge -e world,
although not completely done, appears to have fixed it. Evolution is
now running fine.
I will wait for the emerge -e world to finish up
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 14:23 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
As I said in a response a few minutes ago the emerge -e world,
although not completely done, appears to have fixed it. Evolution is
now running fine.
I will wait for the emerge -e world to finish up tonight and ensure
it's still
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