[gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] Mass deactivation of Bugzilla accounts

2011-07-04 Thread justin
Please notice this mail from the project-ml. Original Message Subject: [gentoo-project] Mass deactivation of Bugzilla accounts Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 21:36:31 +0200 From: Christian Ruppert id...@gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-proj...@lists.gentoo.org To:

Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with the hardened USE flag?

2011-07-04 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2011/7/4 Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de: After syncing, some heavy packages wanted to rebuild because of the hardened USE flag.  (I don't use the hardened profile, but they wanted to rebuild anyway.)  Really heavy stuff including libreoffice and firefox-5.  It took a few hours.  Then, next

Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with the hardened USE flag?

2011-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 04:26:19 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: After syncing, some heavy packages wanted to rebuild because of the hardened USE flag. (I don't use the hardened profile, but they wanted to rebuild anyway.) Really heavy stuff including libreoffice and firefox-5. It took a few

Re: [gentoo-user] Portknock before Postfix delivery?

2011-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 08:31:10 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: If that is not possible, what solution would you recommend to 'harden' the non-25 mail port? Postgrey. -- Neil Bothwick Old hitchhikers never die-they just throw in the towel.

[gentoo-user] Re: smplayer and kmplayer only works (almost) OK as root

2011-07-04 Thread Alberto Luaces
Francisco Ares writes: # mplayer -msglevel all=6 sleeping\ suricates.wmv ^ That hash suggests that you are running the command as root. Type `whoami' to make sure. -- Alberto

[gentoo-user] portage continually wants to remerge gst-plugins-base

2011-07-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
portage-2.2.0_alpha43 wants to remerge gst-plugins-base over and over. It gets correctly merged with a world update but still shows up with every world update thereafter. The package is not in world, has a long (20+) list of things that DEPEND on it, and no related USE flags have changed:

Re: [gentoo-user] portage continually wants to remerge gst-plugins-base

2011-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:28:30 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: portage-2.2.0_alpha43 wants to remerge gst-plugins-base over and over. [ebuild R] media-libs/gst-plugins-base-0.10.35 USE=orc (- introspection) -nls 0 kB Could it be related to https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373773

Re: [gentoo-user] portage continually wants to remerge gst-plugins-base

2011-07-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 July 2011 10:12:14 Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:28:30 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: portage-2.2.0_alpha43 wants to remerge gst-plugins-base over and over. [ebuild R] media-libs/gst-plugins-base-0.10.35 USE=orc (- introspection) -nls 0 kB

Re: [gentoo-user] Portknock before Postfix delivery?

2011-07-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 09:55, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 08:31:10AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote If that is not possible, what solution would you recommend to 'harden' the non-25 mail port?  portknocking sounds like doing things the hard way.  The

Re: [gentoo-user] Portknock before Postfix delivery?

2011-07-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 14:22, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 08:31:10 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: If that is not possible, what solution would you recommend to 'harden' the non-25 mail port? Postgrey. Mmmm... no thanks. I'm trying to save the puny bandwidth

Re: [gentoo-user] portage continually wants to remerge gst-plugins-base

2011-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 11:49:05 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I looked at that bug earlier this morning and thought Nah, how can that be related? Throwing shit randomly at walls in the hope some of it might stick isn't my usual troubleshooting technique so I left it and looked in other more

Re: [gentoo-user] portage continually wants to remerge gst-plugins-base

2011-07-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 04 July 2011 10:12:14 Neil Bothwick wrote: Nixon's Principal: If 2 wrongs don't make a right, try 3. If I were a pedantic old bastard (etc...) s/Principal/Principle/ -- Rgds Peter

[gentoo-user] The definite --complete-graph

2011-07-04 Thread Roman Zilka
Hi everyone, the recent hint made around here by Neil Bothwick (thank you, Neil) about --changed-use, which I hadn't been aware of, made me re-read `man portage`. I came across --complete-graph, which is news to me too. The manpage makes it sound like it's something I want, but I fail to get its

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smplayer and kmplayer only works (almost) OK as root

2011-07-04 Thread Mick
On Monday 04 Jul 2011 08:43:48 Alberto Luaces wrote: Francisco Ares writes: # mplayer -msglevel all=6 sleeping\ suricates.wmv ^ That hash suggests that you are running the command as root. Type `whoami' to make sure. Unless Francisco has changed his prompt to confuse us all?! :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with the hardened USE flag?

2011-07-04 Thread Andrea Conti
Hello, Everyone will get this. The culprit is a change in the pax-utils.eclass [1]. Which adds USE=hardened to every consumer of the eclass. That's IUSE, not USE. USE flags are not touched (at least on non-hardened systems), so the change is only picked up by emerge if you use the --new-use

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Powering off Windows XP, crashing NTFS with a Live CD.

2011-07-04 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Mick. On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 01:17:33PM +0100, Mick wrote: On Sunday 03 Jul 2011 11:31:14 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo. There's been a cock and bull story on comp.os.linux.setup and I'm wondering about some of the details. Mainly, I'd like some education, please! The story,

Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with the hardened USE flag?

2011-07-04 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2011/7/4 Andrea Conti a...@alyf.net: Hello, Everyone will get this. The culprit is a change in the pax-utils.eclass [1]. Which adds USE=hardened to every consumer of the eclass. That's IUSE, not USE. USE flags are not touched (at least on non-hardened systems), so the change is only picked

[gentoo-user] Strangeness in dep calculation

2011-07-04 Thread Roman Zilka
Hi once again, am I missing something or are these bugs? If bugs, do you think I should file them through bugzilla? # emerge -uDN --with-bdeps y world Calculating dependencies... done! Auto-cleaning packages... No outdated

Re: [gentoo-user] Portknock before Postfix delivery?

2011-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:15:41 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: If that is not possible, what solution would you recommend to 'harden' the non-25 mail port? Postgrey. Mmmm... no thanks. I'm trying to save the puny bandwidth incoming to my office :-) You run postgrey alongside postfix on

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Powering off Windows XP, crashing NTFS with a Live CD.

2011-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:12:03 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: o - Do live CDs actually mount filesystems on HDDs? Only when you ask them to. I'm stupid. Of _course_ a live CD can't mount HDD filesystems at boot. To do this it would need /etc/fstab, for which it would need to be told

Re: [gentoo-user] Portknock before Postfix delivery?

2011-07-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 07/03/2011 09:31 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: I'm just wondering... I'm implementing an email gateway using postfix. The gateway lives as a VM in my ISP, and it will deliver 'accepted' emails to the company's email server which lives in the DMZ. The email server's port is shifted to a non-25

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM filter question

2011-07-04 Thread Alex Schuster
David W Noon wrote: My best suggestion is to create a maximal primary partition as /dev/sdd1 and use that as your LUKS volume. That way, LVM will receive the partition details from udev and *might* not bother re-reading the partition table (but don't bet big bucks on it). OK, I tried that

Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with the hardened USE flag?

2011-07-04 Thread Andrea Conti
That's IUSE, not USE. IUSE~=USE [1] Um, yes. It's what I wrote. [editing saved IUSE by hand] Please do not use such hacks I know it's a hack, and I was not recommending it as a general-purpose solution. use --changed-use to avoid a rebuild instead of --new-use like Neil suggested. This

[gentoo-user] Need help : Compiling xe-guest-utilities (xenstore) from Source

2011-07-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
Okay, I got the .rpm for Citrix's xe-guest-utilities from this thread: http://forums.citrix.com/message.jspa?messageID=1468339 Granted, it's slightly older than the latest version, but that's not my main problem. The problem is: How do I run a Config.mk file? Or am I looking at this from a

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Powering off Windows XP, crashing NTFS with a Live CD.

2011-07-04 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:12:03 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: o - Do live CDs actually mount filesystems on HDDs? Only when you ask them to. I'm stupid.  Of _course_ a live CD can't mount HDD filesystems at boot. To do

[gentoo-user] Get source URLs of packages?

2011-07-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
Is there a way to determine the source URL of a package without actually emerging ? Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com Google Talk:    pepoluan Y! messenger: pepoluan MSN / Live:  pepol...@hotmail.com (do not send email here) Skype:  

Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with the hardened USE flag?

2011-07-04 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2011/7/4 Andrea Conti a...@alyf.net: That's IUSE, not USE. IUSE~=USE [1] Um, yes. It's what I wrote. Just wanted to state that the use flags _have changed_ because of the IUSE=hardened injection in the eclass. The whole changeset itself has not effect for non hardened users but forcing a

Re: [gentoo-user] Get source URLs of packages?

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Is there a way to determine the source URL of a package without actually emerging ? Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan Not sure what you mean by 'source URL' but you can get the homepage of a package using eix. That almost always

Re: [gentoo-user] Get source URLs of packages?

2011-07-04 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
I think he wants emerge -pf -- Jesús Guerrero Botella

Re: [gentoo-user] Get source URLs of packages?

2011-07-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 22:12, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Is there a way to determine the source URL of a package without actually emerging ? Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan Not sure what you mean by 'source URL'

Re: [gentoo-user] Get source URLs of packages?

2011-07-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
2011/7/4 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella jesus.guerrero.bote...@gmail.com: I think he wants emerge -pf -- Jesús Guerrero Botella Thank you! That's what I've been looking for :-) Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com Google Talk:    pepoluan Y!

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Powering off Windows XP, crashing NTFS with a Live CD.

2011-07-04 Thread Mick
On Monday 04 Jul 2011 15:48:06 Joshua Murphy wrote: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:12:03 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: o - Do live CDs actually mount filesystems on HDDs? Only when you ask them to. I'm stupid. Of

Re: [gentoo-user] Get source URLs of packages?

2011-07-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 July 2011 21:57:39 Pandu Poluan did opine thusly: Is there a way to determine the source URL of a package without actually emerging ? SRC_URI in the ebuild -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Powering off Windows XP, crashing NTFS with a Live CD.

2011-07-04 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 04 Jul 2011 15:48:06 Joshua Murphy wrote: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:12:03 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: o - Do live CDs actually mount

Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness in dep calculation

2011-07-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 July 2011 14:47:47 Roman Zilka did opine thusly: Hi once again, am I missing something or are these bugs? If bugs, do you think I should file them through bugzilla? # emerge -uDN --with-bdeps y world

[gentoo-user] emerge --depclean wants to unmerge app-editors/nano (part of system)

2011-07-04 Thread Jarry
Hi, I have this strange problem for a few days: after normal updates (I think glib has been updated) I tried to run emerge --depclean (as recommended) but got these messages: --- obelix ~ # emerge --depclean cut Calculating dependencies... done! Calculating removal

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)

2011-07-04 Thread Grant
My motherboard is getting flaky and it's time for a new one.  I have an AMD 6000+ CPU, 4GB DDR2/800 RAM, 2TB SATA2 HD, Blu-Ray burner, PCI wireless card, 400W power supply, and ATX case.  I could replace any of these components if it's worthwhile for some new feature, but I may as well keep

[gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-04 Thread Dale
Hi, Has anyone else had any hard lock ups in KDE? I'm on kde 4.6.4 which was released about a month ago. For those not in the know, I'm on amd64 and use kde-meta so it is has the kitchen sink installed here. What mine does: It sort of varies but usually when I login, it may last a

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)

2011-07-04 Thread Dale
Grant wrote: I'm reading that ASUS and Gigabyte are the way to go for reliability. - Grant I can brag about my Gigabyte. When I was doing research on my newest rig, Gigabyte seemed to be the highest rated. As we know, that changes. When I built a rig several years ago, it was Abit.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean wants to unmerge app-editors/nano (part of system)

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have this strange problem for a few days: after normal updates (I think glib has been updated) I tried to run emerge --depclean (as recommended) but got these messages: --- obelix ~ # emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean wants to unmerge app-editors/nano (part of system)

2011-07-04 Thread Andre Lucas Falco
Do you have another editor installed? If yes, portage tell you a remotion of virtual/editor. Unless you won't take to remove nano, it's possible to put him in @world with this command: emerge --noreplace app-editors/nano. Andre Lucas 2011/7/4 Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com Hi, I have this strange

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-04 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
2011/7/4 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: Hi, What mine does:  It sort of varies but usually when I login, it may last a couple minutes, usually less, then the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock LED's blink.  The Num Lock key is off if that means anything.  I tried the SysReq keys but it doesn't do

RE: [gentoo-user] {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)

2011-07-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
-original message- Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s) From: Grant emailgr...@gmail.com Date: 2011-07-04 23:30 How do you know it's the motherboard and not the PSU for instance? You're right, but I want HDMI and USB 3.0 so I figure I may as well switch the motherboard

[gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org writes: On Sunday, July 3 at 22:07 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: this is a no X machine... it appears at the cited URL they expect you to be running xorg. KMS doesn't require X, but Xorg can use it. Basically Xorg can let the kernel handle graphics mode

[gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Harry Putnam
cov...@ccs.covici.com writes: I've been able to do this for years using VESA. I use uvesafb and it works without X -- I get 60x164, depending on the resolution your mileage may vary. If it done in the kernel line of grub.conf? I realize it must be enabled in kernel and I have done that.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org writes: On Sunday, July 3 at 22:07 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: this is a no X machine... it appears at the cited URL they expect you to be running xorg. KMS doesn't require X, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread covici
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: cov...@ccs.covici.com writes: I've been able to do this for years using VESA. I use uvesafb and it works without X -- I get 60x164, depending on the resolution your mileage may vary. If it done in the kernel line of grub.conf? I realize it

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-04 Thread Dale
Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: 2011/7/4 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com: Hi, What mine does: It sort of varies but usually when I login, it may last a couple minutes, usually less, then the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock LED's blink. The Num Lock key is off if that means anything. I tried the

[gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 07/04/2011 09:10 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Albert Hopkinsmar...@letterboxes.org writes: On Sunday, July 3 at 22:07 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: this is a no X machine... it appears at the cited URL they expect you to be running xorg. KMS doesn't require X, but Xorg can use it. Basically

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)

2011-07-04 Thread pk
On 2011-07-04 18:30, Grant wrote: I'm reading that ASUS and Gigabyte are the way to go for reliability. For consumer oriented motherboards, I feel the same. Yeah I'm a little worried about that with the motherboard. If necessary I can keep limping along with my current motherboard while I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Monday, July 4 at 13:10 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: Are you saying it does not require `xorg-x11'. Step 2) says in large type: `2. Installing Xorg' Then a big note in a green box later on says: , | Note: You could install the xorg-x11 metapackage instead of the more |

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)

2011-07-04 Thread Grant
I'm reading that ASUS and Gigabyte are the way to go for reliability. For consumer oriented motherboards, I feel the same. Yeah I'm a little worried about that with the motherboard.  If necessary I can keep limping along with my current motherboard while I wait for drivers for the new one.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 July 2011 19:12:50 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella did opine thusly: 2011/7/4 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: Hi, What mine does: It sort of varies but usually when I login, it may last a couple minutes, usually less, then the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock LED's blink. The Num Lock

[gentoo-user] Re: Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-04 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Sat, Jul 02, 2011 at 03:14:38PM -0700, Grant wrote: After a frustrating experience with a Linksys WRT54GL, I've decided to stick with Gentoo routers. This increases the number of Gentoo systems I'm responsible for and they're nearing double-digits. What can be done to make the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 July 2011 11:20:43 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: The way I've been doing this only required `vesa' or `uvesa' and some special kernel line stuff. None of the X related stuff is necessary. From covici's post... I think I may need to say uvesa where I've been saying vesa.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 04 July 2011 11:20:43 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: The way I've been doing this only required `vesa' or `uvesa' and some special kernel line stuff.  None of the X related stuff is necessary. From

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 04 July 2011 11:48:51 Dale wrote: Hi, Has anyone else had any hard lock ups in KDE? I'm on kde 4.6.4 whichwas released about a month ago. For those not in the know, I'm on amd64and use kde-meta so it is has the kitchen sink installed here. What mine does: It sort of varies but

Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness in dep calculation

2011-07-04 Thread Roman Zilka
Alan McKinnon (Mon, 04 Jul 2011 18:24:54 +0200): On Monday 04 July 2011 14:47:47 Roman Zilka did opine thusly: Hi once again, am I missing something or are these bugs? If bugs, do you think I should file them through bugzilla?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 July 2011 13:47:28 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 04 July 2011 11:20:43 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: The way I've been doing this only required `vesa' or `uvesa' and some special kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-04 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 04 July 2011 19:12:50 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella did opine thusly: 2011/7/4 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com: Hi, What mine does: It sort of varies but usually when I login, it may last a couple minutes, usually less, then the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock LED's

Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness in dep calculation

2011-07-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 July 2011 22:48:44 Roman Zilka did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon (Mon, 04 Jul 2011 18:24:54 +0200): On Monday 04 July 2011 14:47:47 Roman Zilka did opine thusly: Hi once again, am I missing something or are these bugs? If bugs, do you think I should file them through

Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness in dep calculation

2011-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:48:44 +0200, Roman Zilka wrote: Not quite. This is how I'm thinking: if '-ep world' says virtual/pam needs to be installed, then it either * is in the world file, or * is in the system set, or * is a buildtime or runtime dependency (immediate or deep) of one of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 04 July 2011 13:47:28 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 04 July 2011 11:20:43 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: The way I've

Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with the hardened USE flag?

2011-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 16:57:55 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: use --changed-use to avoid a rebuild instead of --new-use like Neil suggested. This only works if you *permanently* switch to --changed-use, otherwise you'll just postpone things to next time you use --new-use. I haven't used

Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness in dep calculation

2011-07-04 Thread Roman Zilka
Neil Bothwick (Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:16:18 +0100): On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:48:44 +0200, Roman Zilka wrote: Not quite. This is how I'm thinking: if '-ep world' says virtual/pam needs to be installed, then it either * is in the world file, or * is in the system set, or * is a buildtime or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 July 2011 14:15:12 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 04 July 2011 13:47:28 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alan McKinnon so does bootsplash run using framebuffer

[gentoo-user] Re: What's up with the hardened USE flag?

2011-07-04 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 07/05/2011 12:23 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 16:57:55 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: use --changed-use to avoid a rebuild instead of --new-use like Neil suggested. This only works if you *permanently* switch to --changed-use, otherwise you'll just postpone things to next

Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness in dep calculation

2011-07-04 Thread Roman Zilka
Roman Zilka (Mon, 4 Jul 2011 23:34:01 +0200): Neil Bothwick (Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:16:18 +0100): On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:48:44 +0200, Roman Zilka wrote: Not quite. This is how I'm thinking: if '-ep world' says virtual/pam needs to be installed, then it either * is in the world file, or

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-04 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
2011/7/4 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: I don't think I am logged in long enough to change the settings.  I may try my test user but I think a file got corrupted or something.  I did have a power failure the other day and the relay on my UPS was not quite fast enough.  I think the contacts may

Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness in dep calculation

2011-07-04 Thread Roman Zilka
Not quite. This is how I'm thinking: if '-ep world' says virtual/pam needs to be installed, then it either * is in the world file, or * is in the system set, or * is a buildtime or runtime dependency (immediate or deep) of one of the packages in the world set (i.e., world file and

Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness in dep calculation

2011-07-04 Thread Henry Gebhardt
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 11:59:23PM +0200, Roman Zilka wrote: Roman Zilka (Mon, 4 Jul 2011 23:34:01 +0200): Neil Bothwick (Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:16:18 +0100): On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:48:44 +0200, Roman Zilka wrote: Not quite. This is how I'm thinking: if '-ep world' says virtual/pam

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 23:34:41 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm curious, however, about my Gentoo VMs. Can KMS run on a VM's kernel and do anything useful there? This is more for learning and not about any practical need at this time. From my understanding, this topic gets yucky. There's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What's up with the hardened USE flag?

2011-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 05 Jul 2011 00:47:07 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Why not? I see no downside to it but I'm willing to be educated. Imagine this: A package is built by default with Gtk as well as with Qt support. There is no USE flag which would omit building with one of those. Then, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness in dep calculation

2011-07-04 Thread Roman Zilka
Henry Gebhardt (Tue, 5 Jul 2011 00:21:22 +0200): On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 11:59:23PM +0200, Roman Zilka wrote: Roman Zilka (Mon, 4 Jul 2011 23:34:01 +0200): Neil Bothwick (Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:16:18 +0100): On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:48:44 +0200, Roman Zilka wrote: Not quite. This is

Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness in dep calculation

2011-07-04 Thread Roman Zilka
Roman Zilka (Tue, 5 Jul 2011 00:36:21 +0200): Henry Gebhardt (Tue, 5 Jul 2011 00:21:22 +0200): On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 11:59:23PM +0200, Roman Zilka wrote: Roman Zilka (Mon, 4 Jul 2011 23:34:01 +0200): Neil Bothwick (Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:16:18 +0100): On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:48:44

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-04 Thread Dale
Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: 2011/7/4 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com: I don't think I am logged in long enough to change the settings. I may try my test user but I think a file got corrupted or something. I did have a power failure the other day and the relay on my UPS was not quite fast

[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)

2011-07-04 Thread masterprometheus
Grant wrote: My motherboard is getting flaky and it's time for a new one. I have an AMD 6000+ CPU, 4GB DDR2/800 RAM, 2TB SATA2 HD, Blu-Ray burner, PCI wireless card, 400W power supply, and ATX case. I could replace any of these components if it's worthwhile for some new feature, but I may

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 04 July 2011 14:15:12 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: SNIP I'm curious, however, about my Gentoo VMs. Can KMS run on a VM's kernel and do anything useful there? This is more for learning and not about any

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-04 Thread Gregory Shearman
Jesús J. Guerrero Botella jesus.guerrero.bote...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/7/4 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: I don't think I am logged in long enough to change the settings.  I may try my test user but I think a file got corrupted or something.  I did have a power failure the other day and the relay

[gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes: [...] Harry wrote: So I'm a little confused. Nikos replied: The guide deals with how to make X.Org use KMS. That does not mean that KMS requires X. For your X-less machine, all you need to do is enable the driver for your card in the kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 04 July 2011 14:15:12 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: SNIP I'm curious, however, about my Gentoo VMs. Can KMS run on a VM's kernel and

[gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 07/05/2011 03:48 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de writes: [...] Harry wrote: So I'm a little confused. Nikos replied: The guide deals with how to make X.Org use KMS. That does not mean that KMS requires X. For your X-less machine, all you need to do is enable

[gentoo-user] kdepimlibs and openldap compile failure. Shotgun please.

2011-07-04 Thread Dale
=net-nds/openldap-2.4.24', * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv =net-nds/openldap-2.4.24'. * The complete build log is located at '/var/log/portage/net-nds:openldap-2.4.24:20110704-221104.log'. * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/net-nds/openldap-2.4.24

[gentoo-user] nfsv4 file write and read hangs

2011-07-04 Thread James
I'm having some really strange issues with an NFSv4 mount on a few of my systems and am hoping someone can shed some light on what may be going on. Server is exporting v4 NFS. I can mount the export from any one of my clients. However, upon attempting to write to the directory using something

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-04 Thread Dale
Gregory Shearman wrote: Jesús J. Guerrero Botellajesus.guerrero.bote...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/7/4 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com: I don't think I am logged in long enough to change the settings. I may try my test user but I think a file got corrupted or something. I did have a power

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)

2011-07-04 Thread pk
On 2011-07-04 22:32, Grant wrote: That's the FM1 socket, right? I only see two FM1 CPUs on newegg.com Yep. right now. They're quad-core and 100W. I guess the advantage there is they have graphics on the CPU. A 65W CPU would be better but when it comes out I suppose. Yes, since a htpc