[gentoo-user] dev-lang/R: lots of Error in strsplit in using

2011-09-08 Thread Casper Ti. Vector
When using R on my Gentoo machine, whether in interactive or in batch mode, calling `help()' causes the following error: Error in strsplit(txt, \n, fixed = TRUE) : 'split' string 1 is invalid UTF-8 When in interactive mode, typing any function with an opening bracket (eg. `help(') and

[gentoo-user] net-misc/wget-1.13.3-r2: unexpected behaviour with some options

2011-09-08 Thread Casper Ti. Vector
With net-misc/wget-1.13.3-r2, when executing `wget --version', I get GNU Wget 1.13.3 built on linux-gnu.\n\n+digest (intepret as C string, you migh need to note that there is no newline in the end of the output); when executing `wget --help', I get GNU Wget 1.13.3, a non-interactive

[gentoo-user] glibc memory corruption

2011-09-08 Thread Bill Kenworthy
What would cause this? bunyip rpm # /opt/vmware/lib/vmware/bin/vmware *** glibc detected *** /opt/vmware/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: malloc(): memory corruption: 0x09f35e80 *** ^C bunyip rpm # Ive tried doing a emerge -ep world glibc is * sys-libs/glibc Latest version available: 2.12.2

[gentoo-user] Re: /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alberto Luaces
Neil Bothwick writes: On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:04:17 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Putting it on a logical volume is one advantage, allowing /usr to be resized should the need arise. Why not allow / to be resized entirely? You probably will take the machine off-line anyway. Because

Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem with lowest CPU load, acceptable emerge performance, and stable?

2011-09-08 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 05:15, kashani kashani-l...@badapple.net wrote: On 9/7/2011 5:25 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: Well, for all my other servers, I standardized on ext4. Since a vFirewall have to perform lots of packet-juggling, I'd rather dedicate the CPU time to the kernel rather than the HD

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:30:16 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Because you can't boot from an LV, so you'd than need a separate /boot and an initramfs. Without LVM, you are unlikely to be able to resize / or /usr as it is not usually the last partition on the drive. So, you guys want a

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Mittwoch, 7. September 2011, 23:33:35 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: The more I think about this merge of / and /usr, the dumber I think the idea is. As I wrote in an earlier message on this list, the initramfs will be many times larger than the kernel itself. Indeed, my /boot partition

[gentoo-user] Re: /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alberto Luaces
Alberto Luaces writes: Neil Bothwick writes: On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:04:17 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Putting it on a logical volume is one advantage, allowing /usr to be resized should the need arise. Why not allow / to be resized entirely? You probably will take the machine

[gentoo-user] vmplayer wont start

2011-09-08 Thread ifj. Stefán István
Hello! I've installed vmware-player, but can't start it. It outputs a lot of messages (none of them seems to be error msgs) and gives back the prompt: localhost ~ # vmplayer Logging to /tmp/vmware-root/setup-8401.log filename: /lib/modules/2.6.38-gentoo-r6/misc/vmmon.ko supported:

[gentoo-user] Re: glibc memory corruption

2011-09-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/08/2011 10:10 AM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: What would cause this? bunyip rpm # /opt/vmware/lib/vmware/bin/vmware *** glibc detected *** /opt/vmware/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: malloc(): memory corruption: 0x09f35e80 *** ^C bunyip rpm # Ive tried doing a emerge -ep world glibc is *

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox 4.1.2 problem

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:08:21 -0400 David Relson rel...@osagesoftware.com wrote: G'day, I'm having a problem with VirtualBox and am looking for ideas. As background, I'm running virtualbox-bin-4.1.2 on a 2.6.39-gentoo-r2 kernel on an AMD Phenom 9850. My vmware install no longer works

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:23:45 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: I wound up being able to recover by doing a full reinstall of all packages on the live system after mounting /usr into a freshly-mkfs'd new lvm volume. If I'd taken the system offline, it would have been much

[gentoo-user] Re: Nested VMX support in qemu and kvm

2011-09-08 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.ilwrote: On Tue, Sep 06, 2011, Kfir Lavi wrote about Nested VMX support in qemu and kvm: Hi, Wow, I didn't expect to see a discussion about nested VMX in linux-il? Any particular reason why you bring this up here, and not

Re: [gentoo-user] altgr-intl keyboard layout

2011-09-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:45 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, from here I learned the altgr-intl keyboard layout: http://dry.sailingissues.com/us-international-keyboard-layout.html which I will try. It seems to be a good choice for daily programming and writing (I need german Umlauts...;)

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Then don't update. Wanna keep up with upstream? Then accept that sometimes you will need to change your setup, and change how you do stuff. Regards. This is so like something I have told folks about

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:30:16 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Because you can't boot from an LV, so you'd than need a separate /boot and an initramfs. Without LVM, you are unlikely to be able to resize / or /usr as it

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Mittwoch, 7. September 2011, 23:33:35 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: The more I think about this merge of / and /usr, the dumber I think the idea is.  As I wrote in an earlier message on this list, the initramfs

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Then don't update. Wanna keep up with upstream? Then accept that sometimes you will need to change your setup, and change

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:23:45 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: I wound up being able to recover by doing a full reinstall of all packages on the live system after mounting /usr into a

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Then don't update. Wanna keep up with upstream? Then

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:15:40 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: Perhaps udev's problem is that it's too complex, as a result of having too large a problem scope. The problem, AIUI, is the udev can run any programs specified in the rules files, and they may not be available before /usr is mounted. If the

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 11:13:58 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Mittwoch, 7. September 2011, 23:33:35 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: I don't see any problem with an initramfs larger than the kernel. It

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:58:22 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:15:40 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: Perhaps udev's problem is that it's too complex, as a result of having too large a problem scope. The problem, AIUI, is the udev can run any programs specified in the

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 11:13:58 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Mittwoch, 7. September 2011, 23:33:35 schrieb Canek Peláez

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread David W Noon
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:33:35 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:37 PM, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: [snip] The more I think about this merge of / and /usr, the dumber I think the idea is.  As I wrote in an

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:58:22 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:15:40 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: Perhaps udev's problem is that it's too complex, as a result of having too large a problem

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:33:35 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:37 PM, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: [snip] The more I think about

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 12:34:50 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 11:13:58 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 12:45:47 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:58:22 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:15:40 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: Perhaps udev's

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 12:34:50 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 11:13:58 schrieb Canek Peláez

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 12:45:47 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:58:22 schrieb Neil Bothwick:

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread pk
On 2011-09-08 05:23, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Yeah, first time I installed Linux, it required 512 Mb (if I installed X), and 16 Mb of memmory. Change happens. I welcome it happily, because that's how we progress and get even better stuff. Change is sometimes good, sometimes bad. Something

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread pk
On 2011-09-08 16:51, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: But the freedom is still there. The freedom to either keep your system as it is (don't upgrade) ^ You do realise that this is quite valid for Windows (and all other OS's in existence)? At least so far... Best regards

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: We already *have* the situation of not requiring initramfs for separate /usr. Mission accomplished. It's the upcoming change, that violates

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:35 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2011-09-08 16:51, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: But the freedom is still there. The freedom to either keep your system as it is (don't upgrade)            ^ You do realise that this is quite valid for Windows (and all

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread David W Noon
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:56:44 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: [snip] I expect to switch my simpler systems away from udev to mdev.  This loses some functionality of

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread pk
On 2011-09-08 19:47, Michael Mol wrote: Outdated operating systems make baby coder cry. I like making baby coders cry... :- ;-) Best regards Peter K

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:30 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2011-09-08 05:23, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Yeah, first time I installed Linux, it required 512 Mb (if I installed X), and 16 Mb of memmory. Change happens. I welcome it happily, because that's how we progress and get even

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:35 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2011-09-08 16:51, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: But the freedom is still there. The freedom to either keep your system as it is (don't upgrade)            ^ You do realise that this is quite valid for Windows (and all

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: We already *have* the situation of not requiring initramfs for

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:35 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2011-09-08 16:51, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: But the freedom is still there. The freedom to either keep your system as it is (don't upgrade)            

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:05 PM, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:56:44 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: [snip] I expect to switch my

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: This isn't a discussion. This is a bunch of people offering displeasure, ideas and/or thoughts, and one person saying, hey, nothing I can do. I trust

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:35 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:            ^ You do realise that this is quite valid for Windows (and all

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:13:58 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Have you *ever* thought about machines, that are not x86 or x86_64? Here's an intersting read: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/72769 No, I haven't thought about them, because I don't use

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: This isn't a discussion. This is a bunch of people offering displeasure, ideas

Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Configuration...

2011-09-08 Thread Mick
On Thursday 08 Sep 2011 04:52:44 BRM wrote: - Original Message - From: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com Hmm ... what is the error/warning that comes up? pneumo-martyr wpa_supplicant # /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start * Bringing up interface wlan0 * Starting wpa_supplicant on

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:11:04 +0200 Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Then design the correct solution and implement it. If it's technically sound, it will prevail. I think it's a rather complicated problem with a non trivial solution, but the code is there if you feel like give

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Opera browser set home page

2011-09-08 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 07 Sep 2011 21:48:44 Harry Putnam wrote: Stefano Crocco stefano.cro...@alice.it writes: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . you have to click on the Opera button, just below the title bar and at the left of the first open tab. A menu will popup. Many thanks friend. That one

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:13:58 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Have you *ever* thought about machines, that are not x86 or x86_64? Here's an intersting read:

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:11:04 +0200 Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Then design the correct solution and implement it. If it's technically sound, it will prevail. I think it's a rather complicated

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:32:27 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: An initramfs is optional becuase i can disable it in the kernel. I would like to keep that optional. udev at some point was optional,

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread David W Noon
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:13:55 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:05 PM, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: [snip] I don't know if the kernel offers any particular blessing to any hotplug handler. udev is the

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: [ big fat snip ] Why is it so hard for these same maintainers to leave things as they are? It is not broken currently I really need to get some work done, so I will keep it shortly, because this is a dup of the CUPS

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:21:11 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: I do not have an initramfs, do not need one, see no need to have one and have not yet seen a valid technical reason for why having one is ideal. It's not ideal (I don't think anybody has said that). Almost

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 22:05:36 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:11:04 +0200 Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Then design the correct solution and implement it. If it's technically sound, it will prevail. I think it's a rather complicated problem

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:25 PM, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:13:55 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:05 PM, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: [snip] I don't know if the kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:23:36 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: In what valid way does access to /usr become something that udev may be required to support? It is a matter of what else do you end having in /bin and /lib. Remember that udev rules can execute arbitrary code. Do all

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:25:31 +0100 David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: Well, then you already know what to do. Indeed I do. If your databases are not ASE or Oracle, then migrating to FreeBSD is a fine option. It's what we did at work. The benefits were immediate: - we didn't lose the

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:21:11 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: I do not have an initramfs, do not need one, see no need to have one and have not yet seen a valid technical reason for why having one

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:23:36 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: In what valid way does access to /usr become something that udev may be required to support? It is a matter of what else do you end having in

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:40:07 +0200 Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 22:05:36 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:11:04 +0200 Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Then design the correct solution and implement it. If it's

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry you read that way; I keep trying to explain why I don't find a

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Dale
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I htink almost everyone understand this. Regards. I think you are one of *very* few that understands this. This reminds me of a old joke. One in four people have a mental issue. Check three friends and if they are OK, you are it. Again, it is a joke but my

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:48:45 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:23:36 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: In what valid way does access to /usr become something that udev

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:23:36 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: It is a matter of what else do you end having in /bin and /lib. Remember that udev rules can execute arbitrary code. Do all that code needs to be moved to /bin and /lib also? Why should it not move to /bin and /lib?

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 22:56:07 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:40:07 +0200 Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 22:05:36 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:11:04 +0200 Michael Schreckenbauer

Re: [gentoo-user] vmplayer wont start

2011-09-08 Thread Mick
On Thursday 08 Sep 2011 09:29:38 ifj. Stefán István wrote: Hello! I've installed vmware-player, but can't start it. It outputs a lot of messages (none of them seems to be error msgs) and gives back the prompt: localhost ~ # vmplayer Logging to /tmp/vmware-root/setup-8401.log filename:

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:48:45 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:23:36 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: In what valid way does access to /usr become something that

Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Configuration...

2011-09-08 Thread BRM
- Original Message - From: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com On Thursday 08 Sep 2011 04:52:44 BRM wrote: - Original Message - From: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com Hmm ... what is the error/warning that comes up? pneumo-martyr wpa_supplicant # /etc/init.d/net.wlan0

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:46:25 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: The only simple answer I have is this one: if it is so simple, then it would work this way. It isn't. If I am wrong (and, of course, that is possible), someone will come out and do it, and you guys will be able to

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, all. Forgive me butting in at a random place in this rather heated thread, but On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:43:29PM +0200, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:23:36 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: In what valid way does access to /usr become something that

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 23:06:43 +0200 Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Thanks, Alan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question ;) Oops :-) I need to pay more attention to everything that everyone posts. I didn't know enough (or couldn't remember enough) to judge how many or

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:29:40 + Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: Hi, all. Forgive me butting in at a random place in this rather heated thread, but On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:43:29PM +0200, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:23:36 schrieb Canek

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 23:44:41 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:29:40 + Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: Would it not be possible to have a minimal /usr tree in the root partition for udev's use at boot time, and to later mount a more robust /usr partition

Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem with lowest CPU load, acceptable emerge performance, and stable?

2011-09-08 Thread kashani
On 9/8/2011 12:52 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: So, a different scenario, then: Sometimes I need to log stuffs (via ULOG) or do a tcpdump. Will JFS give me additional benefit to ext4? Or should I just stick with ext4? Simplest performance gain for appends is to drop atime/dirtime from the file or

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 23:38:01 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 23:06:43 +0200 Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Thanks, Alan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question ;) Oops :-) I need to pay more attention to everything that everyone

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Mick
Unless I misunderstood this and referenced threads, all this agro is being generated because udev devs decided to give primacy not to the linux fs and prevailing FHS conventions, but their udev code and what may have been an easy workaround for them? Given that I do not understand the ins and

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 11:44:41PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Would it not be possible to have a minimal /usr tree in the root partition for udev's use at boot time, and to later mount a more robust /usr partition over this? What am I missing here? A big problem will be that the package

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:48:45 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:23:36 schrieb Canek

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Unless I misunderstood this and referenced threads, all this agro is being generated because udev devs decided to give primacy not to the linux fs and prevailing FHS conventions, but their udev code and what may have been an

Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Configuration...

2011-09-08 Thread Mick
OK, so if you restore the two lines and this error goes away, can you then initialise the device without any other errors? Assuming that rfkill shows all is unlocked and the device active, what does iwlist wlan0 scan show now? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread David W Noon
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:42:04 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:25 PM, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: [snip] They work currently. So you want all the new functionality, but without needing to do anything.

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I htink almost everyone understand this. Regards. I think you are one of *very* few that understands this. This reminds me of a old joke.  One in four people have a mental issue.  Check three

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 18:39:21 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Unless I misunderstood this and referenced threads, all this agro is being generated because udev devs decided to give primacy not to the

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 00:28:24 +0200 Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 23:38:01 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 23:06:43 +0200 Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Thanks, Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 22:31:15 + Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 11:44:41PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Would it not be possible to have a minimal /usr tree in the root partition for udev's use at boot time, and to later mount a more robust /usr partition

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 18:36:56 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:48:45 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 18:39:21 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Unless I misunderstood this and referenced threads, all this agro

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread David W Noon
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 22:45:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot: On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:25:31 +0100 David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: Well, then you already know what to do. Indeed I do. If your databases are not ASE or Oracle, then

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 18:36:56 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:48:45 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés

[gentoo-user] openssl WARNING: Skipping duplicate file cert_igca_rsa.pem

2011-09-08 Thread Grant
I just noticed this at the end of my openssl emerge: * Running 'c_rehash /etc/ssl/certs/' to rebuild hashes #333069 ... WARNING: Skipping duplicate file cert_igca_rsa.pem [ ok ] dev-libs/openssl-1.0.0e merged. Since SSL is so critical I thought I should run it by you guys. Is this something I

[gentoo-user] USB-reset after hibernate?

2011-09-08 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, I am using a IBM Model M (139031) with my Linux Box and a Belkin PS2/USB/converter (active) To connect the PS2 cord to my PC (Chesen Electronics Corp. PS/2 Keyboard+Mouse Adapter). As long as I am booting the PC everything is fine. But if I wake the PC from hibernate, the keyboard get

Re: [gentoo-user] vmplayer wont start

2011-09-08 Thread Michael Higgins
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 10:29:38 +0200 ifj. Stefán István iste...@stef.hu wrote: Hello! I've installed vmware-player, but can't start it. It outputs a lot of messages [ 8 ] It wont start even if I add a virtual machine config file parameter to vmplayer. Is there any trick to start it?

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-08 Thread Dale
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I htink almost everyone understand this. Regards. I think you are one of *very* few that understands this. This reminds me of a old joke. One in four people have a mental

[gentoo-user] Gentoo on MacBook

2011-09-08 Thread Moshe Kamensky
Hi There, I am trying to install Gentoo dual boot on a MacBook Pro (17 inch). I have refit installed, but the problem is that I cannot boot from the CD (the option is not available in the menu). I was wondering if someone knows how to do it. Thanks, Moshe

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on MacBook

2011-09-08 Thread covici
Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi There, I am trying to install Gentoo dual boot on a MacBook Pro (17 inch). I have refit installed, but the problem is that I cannot boot from the CD (the option is not available in the menu). I was wondering if someone knows how to

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on MacBook

2011-09-08 Thread Moshe Kamensky
* cov...@ccs.covici.com cov...@ccs.covici.com [08/09/11 23:18]: Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi There, I am trying to install Gentoo dual boot on a MacBook Pro (17 inch). I have refit installed, but the problem is that I cannot boot from the CD (the option is

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox 4.1.2 problem

2011-09-08 Thread David Relson
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:58:21 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:08:21 -0400 David Relson rel...@osagesoftware.com wrote: G'day, I'm having a problem with VirtualBox and am looking for ideas. As background, I'm running virtualbox-bin-4.1.2 on a 2.6.39-gentoo-r2

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on MacBook

2011-09-08 Thread Moshe Kamensky
* Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com [08/09/11 23:30]: * cov...@ccs.covici.com cov...@ccs.covici.com [08/09/11 23:18]: Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi There, I am trying to install Gentoo dual boot on a MacBook Pro (17 inch). I have refit

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