Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-04-04 Thread Stroller
On Fri, 3 April 2015, at 9:30 am, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Slightly OT, but are there any tools for cleaning out old entries? I think this will do what you want. eix-test-obsolete Many thanks, it certainly seems to. It seems to do a bit more besides, unruly in its verboseness,

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-04 Thread Philip Webb
150404 waben...@gmail.com wrote: Mathematics is our basic tool to build these theories. A fundamental question is whether the mathematical axioms exist for real and we just discovered them or are they grounded by the functionality of our mind/brain ? In the latter case, it would probably be

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: What a revelation about at least a minority of Gentoo users ! -- philosophers of science + math, besides well-trained physicists. I think at least half of us on the Council have degrees in the physical sciences. I work

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/04/2015 02:50, waben...@gmail.com wrote: The scientific community is very well aware that it cannot answer the question why?, and in fact, true science doesn't even try. Science never proves anything, it only fails to disprove a realistic workable model. For the sake of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-04-04 Thread lee
Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com writes: On Sunday, March 29, 2015 12:23:00 PM lee wrote: Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net writes: What's the last time you pressed Ctrl+Alt+Del and it actually worked? It's a legacy thing from times when freezes/crashes were common and when

Re: [gentoo-user] xen on new install reboots by itself

2015-04-04 Thread lee
symack sym...@gmail.com writes: the only thing is when we try to boot with xen, it gets to the prompt and then reboots by itself. The following message is what differs between normal gentoo and xen kernel Mar 31 06:32:18 test kernel: [0.138644] ACPI Exception: AE_NOT_FOUND, While

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-04-04 Thread lee
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org writes: On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:43:12PM +0200, lee wrote That leaves the question why a user who isn't even logged in should be able to reboot, which IIRC they can by default with Ctrl+Alt+Del. Such users shouldn't be allowed to do anything but to log in.

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from no-multilib to (true) multilib

2015-04-04 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:51:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On my workstation the day this option came out, */* abi_x86_32 in package.use went reasonably well. x11-libs/cairo-1.12.18-r1 failed, but maybe that problem is the 32-bit mesa. Going to rebuild it and try. There's a

Re: [gentoo-user] what to use for a pppoe client?

2015-04-04 Thread Mick
On Saturday 04 Apr 2015 13:32:28 lee wrote: Hi, I need a pppoe client, no server part necessary, to replace the black-box router because that thing sucks. Which package would you recommend? There seem to be at least two I could use: net-dialup/ppp net-dialup/rp-pppoe I'd like

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-04-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 8:41 AM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: Oh I mean the *default*. We should not need to change the inittab to have it disabled by default. Isn't commenting out the whole line sufficient? Uh, commenting out the line is changing the inittab (and I have no idea if it works

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/04/2015 13:35, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: What a revelation about at least a minority of Gentoo users ! -- philosophers of science + math, besides well-trained physicists. I think at least half of us on the Council have

[gentoo-user] Gentoo_BSD install

2015-04-04 Thread James
Hello, In the last year, I have lots several (linus) friends to BSD. Old-timers like myself that have been nix_ing around for decades. All used BSD and gentoo at some point in time, for various durations. SystemD was probably the single largest reason they all seem to be returning to

[gentoo-user] what to use for a pppoe client?

2015-04-04 Thread lee
Hi, I need a pppoe client, no server part necessary, to replace the black-box router because that thing sucks. Which package would you recommend? There seem to be at least two I could use: net-dialup/ppp net-dialup/rp-pppoe I'd like to see some connection statistics, i. e. the connection

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-04-04 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: On Fri, 3 April 2015, at 9:30 am, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Slightly OT, but are there any tools for cleaning out old entries? I think this will do what you want. eix-test-obsolete Many thanks, it certainly seems to. It seems to do a bit more besides, unruly in its

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-04 Thread Boricua Siempre
Thank for de replies My english so bad because I from the future when english death languaje. Geentoo power first quantum super computer in 2101 and power all galactic cofederation computers. It was first supercomputer to crack secret of time travel in 2307 and become self conchious in 2402. I am

Re: [gentoo-user] xen on new install reboots by itself

2015-04-04 Thread hydra
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:20 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Monday, March 30, 2015 07:07:39 PM symack wrote: Hello Everyone, New install, on a old server with raid 10 scsi... The normal installation works fine, the only thing is when we try to boot with xen, it gets to

Re: [gentoo-user] xen on new install reboots by itself

2015-04-04 Thread hydra
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 3:20 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: symack sym...@gmail.com writes: Other than that, unless you really do need full virtualization: I'm finding Linux containers to be far more manageable than virtual machines, and much more efficient. Can you please post some more

Re: [gentoo-user] portage summary logs not rotated any more

2015-04-04 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 04 Apr 2015 20:35:31 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: My portage summary logs don't seem to be rotated any more. ls -lt `pwd`/summary.log* -rw-rw-r-- 1 portage portage 96581 Apr 3 19:47

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo_BSD install

2015-04-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 04/04/2015 11:59 AM, James wrote: The point is that in bold on the new homepage for gentoo, it says Welcome to Gentoo, a flexible Linux or BSD distribution that can become just about any system you need. And then some. You can run the Gentoo userland on top of a FreeBSD kernel:

Re: [gentoo-user] what to use for a pppoe client?

2015-04-04 Thread Heiko Baums
Am 04.04.2015 um 14:32 schrieb lee: Which package would you recommend? There seem to be at least two I could use: net-dialup/ppp net-dialup/rp-pppoe I used rp-pppoe. I found it easier to configure. ppp is installed as a dependency anyway. I'd like to see some connection statistics, i.

Re: [gentoo-user] portage summary logs not rotated any more

2015-04-04 Thread Mick
On Saturday 04 Apr 2015 20:35:31 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: My portage summary logs don't seem to be rotated any more. ls -lt `pwd`/summary.log* -rw-rw-r-- 1 portage portage 96581 Apr 3 19:47 /var/log/portage/elog/summary.log -rw-rw-r-- 1 portage portage 5927 Jan 10 07:50

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 14:41:12 +0200, lee wrote: On Linux now there's the Magic SysRq Key feature for that. I always can't remember which keys to press with that, so I have it disabled. BUSIER backwards. And when the keyboard is unresponsive, it won't work. It usually does. The kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-04-04 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, April 04, 2015 2:41:12 PM lee wrote: I always can't remember which keys to press with that, so I have it disabled. And when the keyboard is unresponsive, it won't work. It will in many cases (probably most). Usually it's xorg that freezes the keyboard, in those cases

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 07:33:06 -0500, Dale wrote: eix-test-obsolete Many thanks, it certainly seems to. It seems to do a bit more besides, unruly in its verboseness, but I won't bother trying to interpret the rest of its output. It's one reason I don't use it much. It spits out so

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 4 Apr 2015 10:39:18 +0100, Stroller wrote: eix-test-obsolete Many thanks, it certainly seems to. It seems to do a bit more besides, unruly in its verboseness, but I won't bother trying to interpret the rest of its output. eix-test-obsolete is only a shell script that calls

Re: [gentoo-user] what to use for a pppoe client?

2015-04-04 Thread Heiko Baums
Am 04.04.2015 um 21:27 schrieb Heiko Baums: You can also use net-misc/networkmanager. If you're using a desktop environment then you can also install gnome-extra/nm-applet for GTK based desktops or a similar package for KDE. This way you always see the connection status in the systray. And

[gentoo-user] portage summary logs not rotated any more

2015-04-04 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
My portage summary logs don't seem to be rotated any more. ls -lt `pwd`/summary.log* -rw-rw-r-- 1 portage portage 96581 Apr 3 19:47 /var/log/portage/elog/summary.log -rw-rw-r-- 1 portage portage 5927 Jan 10 07:50 /var/log/portage/elog/summary.log-20150112 -rw-rw-r-- 1 portage portage 2281 Jan

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo_BSD install

2015-04-04 Thread James
Michael Orlitzky mjo at gentoo.org writes: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_FreeBSD It's not for the faint of heart. when dealing with builds from sources, what is easy? (not much). Is there a community, forum or irc that are active on running gentoo on top of a BSD kernel? thx, James