Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-07-07 Thread james
On 06/26/17 04:41, Danny YUE wrote: > Hi guys, > > I am planning to buy a Raspberry Pi 3 to setup a local network storage > and try some IoT stuff. Now I am searching for some background things. > > Which OS do you install on your Raspberry Pi? > > Gentoo? Raspbian? Or even...arch? > > This

[gentoo-user] Re: redoing grub-2 after emerge updates it

2017-07-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Mike Gilbert writes: [...] > If you want to use the new version to boot your system, you should > re-run grub-install, which will copy the modules to /boot/grub and > will install the core image to your MBR or EFI system partition. Thanks for the info. I don't know what

Re: [gentoo-user] Restricting git downloading the whole server farm and yet some

2017-07-07 Thread Mick
On Friday 07 Jul 2017 05:28:25 Rasmus Thomsen wrote: > I guess you could add "EGIT_CLONE_TYPE=shallow" to your make.conf, that way > you don't have to download the whole repo with all of its commit history. > > Regards, > Rasmus Thanks! I will try this, but I am surprised it is not the default.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: redoing grub-2 after emerge updates it

2017-07-07 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Mick wrote: > On Friday 07 Jul 2017 11:49:11 Harry Putnam wrote: >> Mike Gilbert writes: >> >> [...] >> >> > If you want to use the new version to boot your system, you should >> > re-run grub-install, which will

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: redoing grub-2 after emerge updates it

2017-07-07 Thread Mick
On Friday 07 Jul 2017 11:49:11 Harry Putnam wrote: > Mike Gilbert writes: > > [...] > > > If you want to use the new version to boot your system, you should > > re-run grub-install, which will copy the modules to /boot/grub and > > will install the core image to your MBR or

[gentoo-user] Re: redoing grub-2 after emerge updates it

2017-07-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Mike Gilbert writes: [...] Mick wrote: >> As has already stated you could stay put with your old version, provided you >> have no specific reason to stop using it. GRUB2 can be installed and left >> unused. I guess from a usability perspective as long as you have no need

Re: [gentoo-user] Restricting git downloading the whole server farm and yet some

2017-07-07 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 07/07/2017 08:49 AM, Mick wrote: > On Friday 07 Jul 2017 05:28:25 Rasmus Thomsen wrote: >> I guess you could add "EGIT_CLONE_TYPE=shallow" to your make.conf, that way >> you don't have to download the whole repo with all of its commit history. >> >> Regards, >> Rasmus > > Thanks! I will try

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Choosing between system profiles: hardened and desktop for desktop installation.

2017-07-07 Thread james
On 07/07/17 03:53, Martin Vaeth wrote: > R0b0t1 wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:33 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote: >>> Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 04 Jul 2017 10:14:23 Martin Vaeth wrote: > > With modern browsers and their

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Choosing between system profiles: hardened and desktop for desktop installation.

2017-07-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 07 Jul 2017 13:25:20 Martin Vaeth wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Friday 07 Jul 2017 07:53:01 Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> ... my original text was arguing against the claim that the primary > >> purpose of hardened kernels was to protect against untrusted users

[gentoo-user] Re: Choosing between system profiles: hardened and desktop for desktop installation.

2017-07-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
james wrote: > > Hmmm. OK, so I avoid systemd and nepomuk (actually all of KDE) but > polkit? I try and run a minimized DE environment, but on a workstation, > I'm constantly evaluating various codes, so how do I avoid polkit? USE=-policykit obviously helps a lot >

[gentoo-user] Re: Choosing between system profiles: hardened and desktop for desktop installation.

2017-07-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
R0b0t1 wrote: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Hardened_Gentoo > > The hardened profile still sets PaX and a slew of toolchain options. Yes. But marking binaries for pax if you don't use a kernel with pax is pointless. And whether you use the hardened toolchain or a current gcc

Re: [gentoo-user] Restricting git downloading the whole server farm and yet some

2017-07-07 Thread Mick
On Friday 07 Jul 2017 12:25:22 Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 07/07/2017 08:49 AM, Mick wrote: > > On Friday 07 Jul 2017 05:28:25 Rasmus Thomsen wrote: > >> I guess you could add "EGIT_CLONE_TYPE=shallow" to your make.conf, that > >> way > >> you don't have to download the whole repo with all of its

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo vs Raspbian on Raspberry Pi 3?

2017-07-07 Thread Danny YUE
On 2017-07-07 16:29, james wrote: > On 06/26/17 04:41, Danny YUE wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> I am planning to buy a Raspberry Pi 3 to setup a local network storage >> and try some IoT stuff. Now I am searching for some background things. >> >> Which OS do you install on your

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: redoing grub-2 after emerge updates it

2017-07-07 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 02:14:55PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote > You are correct.. `emerge world' made some kind of upgrade/update to > grub2 which I've been using a fair good while. The install process > ended with some kind of heads up. I didn't keep the wording emerge > used but it made me

[gentoo-user] Re: About using only precompiled pkgs

2017-07-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Rich Freeman writes: > I would tell you to search the list archives, but I really struggle to > get Google to find anything there. Well said. Thank you for the script. They are giving me some ideas.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Choosing between system profiles: hardened and desktop for desktop installation.

2017-07-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 07 Jul 2017 07:53:01 Martin Vaeth wrote: > ... my original text was arguing against the claim that the primary > purpose of hardened kernels was to protect against untrusted users > sitting in front of the keyboard. It wasn't a claim, just an impression; and I did say I could easily be

[gentoo-user] Restricting git downloading the whole server farm and yet some

2017-07-07 Thread Mick
I am trying to emerge a package from a git repository but the amount being downloaded strikes as unreasonable, because if not anything else I don't have this amount of space available on the current partition: >>> Emerging (1 of 2) dev-libs/efl-::bar >>> Unpacking source... Cloning into

Re: [gentoo-user] Restricting git downloading the whole server farm and yet some

2017-07-07 Thread Rasmus Thomsen
I guess you could add "EGIT_CLONE_TYPE=shallow" to your make.conf, that way you don't have to download the whole repo with all of its commit history. Regards, Rasmus Original Message On 7 Jul 2017, 10:24, Mick wrote: > I am trying to emerge a package from a git repository but

Re: [gentoo-user] Anjuta - Segmentation Fault

2017-07-07 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Hogren wrote: > Hello ! > > > I try to develop with Anjuta. > > When I run it, many times it works, many times it won't to start. > > I have a lot of WARNING, and several CRITICAL messages : > > > (anjuta:5134): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing

[gentoo-user] Re: Choosing between system profiles: hardened and desktop for desktop installation.

2017-07-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 07 Jul 2017 07:53:01 Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> ... my original text was arguing against the claim that the primary >> purpose of hardened kernels was to protect against untrusted users >> sitting in front of the keyboard. > > It wasn't a

Re: [gentoo-user] redoing grub-2 after emerge updates it

2017-07-07 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:28 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Googling to find out if it is necessary to reinstall the bootloader > and update grub.cfg afer update world installed grub2 update. > > I was buried in directions to install grub2, or move from old grub to > grub2. But not

[gentoo-user] redoing grub-2 after emerge updates it

2017-07-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Googling to find out if it is necessary to reinstall the bootloader and update grub.cfg afer update world installed grub2 update. I was buried in directions to install grub2, or move from old grub to grub2. But not what I wanted to know short of reading all hits word for word. So, (sniveling

[gentoo-user] Anjuta - Segmentation Fault

2017-07-07 Thread Hogren
Hello ! I try to develop with Anjuta. When I run it, many times it works, many times it won't to start. I have a lot of WARNING, and several CRITICAL messages : (anjuta:5134): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: :2:30: The style property GtkWidget:focus-line-width is deprecated and

Re: [gentoo-user] Anjuta - Segmentation Fault

2017-07-07 Thread Hogren
On 07/07/2017 13:25, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Hogren wrote: >> Hello ! >> >> >> I try to develop with Anjuta. >> >> When I run it, many times it works, many times it won't to start. >> >> I have a lot of WARNING, and several CRITICAL messages

Re: [gentoo-user] Anjuta - Segmentation Fault

2017-07-07 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, R, 07.07.2017 kell 13:44, kirjutas Hogren: > > Would be good to see the actual segfault message as well. > > > > Just after errors messages, there is : > Segmentation Error  (core dumped) This involves actually looking at the core dump with gdb and such. If you happen to use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Choosing between system profiles: hardened and desktop for desktop installation.

2017-07-07 Thread R0b0t1
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Friday 07 Jul 2017 07:53:01 Martin Vaeth wrote: >> >>> ... my original text was arguing against the claim that the primary >>> purpose of hardened kernels was to protect

Re: [gentoo-user] mixing predictable with old style network interface naming

2017-07-07 Thread Francisco Ares
2017-07-06 18:39 GMT-03:00 R0b0t1 : > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Francisco Ares wrote: > > > > > > 2017-07-06 13:07 GMT-03:00 R0b0t1 : > >> > >> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Francisco Ares > wrote: > >> > Hi, All.

[gentoo-user] Re: Choosing between system profiles: hardened and desktop for desktop installation.

2017-07-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
R0b0t1 wrote: > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:33 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> On Tuesday 04 Jul 2017 10:14:23 Martin Vaeth wrote: With modern browsers and their complexity, you can expect that any