[gentoo-user] Re: HP scanner is no longer found

2014-03-25 Thread James
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes:


  This is confusing.  

 Thanks.  I'll post when I get to test some more. 

Sure, I'll be curious how/what the resolution is to the 
usb disappearing.

Do check your usb rules (udev? systemd ? ) or where ever they
are defined; for how it is defined on the usb buss often changes 
(generic  antedote,I know but the usb buss can be instantiated in several
different ways (on linux) and I'm not sure on the latest (moving)
semantics).

On a side note, I'm buying a John Deere 4000 (low hours, well maintained),
from my brother in law, so any private emails on advice are most welcome.
I'm going to use it to push dirt around for a house flipper team effort;
and when I get angry at  'puters...

;-) 


James





[gentoo-user] Re: HP scanner is no longer found

2014-03-24 Thread James
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes:

 
 Howdy,
 
 This is confusing.  A month or so ago, my HP 5300C scanner worked just
 fine.  


Hello Dale,

I always keep old (very old) backups of the config file in 
/etc/cups to see if when a software upgrade occurs, or
I have to use the admin page of cups to update/modify/test
print/scanner hardware. So it's an easy check therein, if
you kept old copies in /etc/cups. Sometimes newer versions
of cups do not work well with older or obscure features of
various printers/scanners.

As far as USB goes, the device's device driver could have been
change or it, as a legacy (usb) device became a new part of 
one of the unified device drivers. You'll have to research that
or build a new/test kernel with all sorts of USB drivers enabled.
You definately have a usb issue, at the very least.

If those (2) ideas do not bear fruit, find a usb sniffer and use
that. You might have to go to a windows box to test the scanner too.
Not likely, but the usb chip could have went bad

http://vusb-analyzer.sourceforge.net/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/usbsnoop/

or general usb tools (may) help:
app-admin/usbview
sys-apps/usbmon
sys-apps/usbutils
etc..
many more usb sniffer too.

Just eliminate the possibilities.
I'd test it on a windows box if necessary too.


This all begs the question of how it was set up :
(after the usb issue is resolved).

hplip, cups,  *sane*, ???

hth,
James




[gentoo-user] Re: HP scanner is no longer found

2014-03-24 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Dale,

the scanner part of my Brother DCP stopped suddenly also one month ago. My 
troubles were caused by the upgrade from sane-backends-1.0.23 to 1.0.24-r1. 
Downgrading immediately led to a working scanner again.

[snip]

Cheers,
Jörg





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: HP scanner is no longer found

2014-03-24 Thread Dale
James wrote:
 Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes:

 Howdy,

 This is confusing.  A month or so ago, my HP 5300C scanner worked just
 fine.  

 Hello Dale,

 I always keep old (very old) backups of the config file in 
 /etc/cups to see if when a software upgrade occurs, or
 I have to use the admin page of cups to update/modify/test
 print/scanner hardware. So it's an easy check therein, if
 you kept old copies in /etc/cups. Sometimes newer versions
 of cups do not work well with older or obscure features of
 various printers/scanners.

 As far as USB goes, the device's device driver could have been
 change or it, as a legacy (usb) device became a new part of 
 one of the unified device drivers. You'll have to research that
 or build a new/test kernel with all sorts of USB drivers enabled.
 You definately have a usb issue, at the very least.

 If those (2) ideas do not bear fruit, find a usb sniffer and use
 that. You might have to go to a windows box to test the scanner too.
 Not likely, but the usb chip could have went bad

 http://vusb-analyzer.sourceforge.net/
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/usbsnoop/

 or general usb tools (may) help:
 app-admin/usbview
 sys-apps/usbmon
 sys-apps/usbutils
 etc..
 many more usb sniffer too.

 Just eliminate the possibilities.
 I'd test it on a windows box if necessary too.


 This all begs the question of how it was set up :
 (after the usb issue is resolved).

 hplip, cups,  *sane*, ???

 hth,
 James





I did use sane to set it up.  Well, I installed the sane package and to
be honest, it just sort of worked without me doing anything that I
recall.  I might add, I now have a USB mouse, try finding a PS/2 mouse
at short notice.  The scanner is plugged into the port right next to it
right now.   I did however try other ports that I know work because I
can use USB sticks in them.  So, it's either some broken upgrade of
something or as much as I hate to say it, my scanner needs to be buried. 

For some reason, I didn't even try hplip for scanning.  It never
occurred to me.  I have xsane and Skanlite installed and use those. 
They say it can't find the scanner.  I figure until it shows up on the
lsusb list, nothing is going to work regardless of what front end I use. 

I didn't get a chance to today but tomorrow I plan to go to my brother's
and plug the scanner into his computer.  He uses Kubuntu.  If the
scanner works there, then it is something to do with my rig.  If it
don't show up on lsusb there either, I need to go buy a shovel and find
a comfy spot in the back 40.  :-(  

Thanks.  I'll post when I get to test some more. 

Dale

:-)  :-)



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: HP scanner is no longer found

2014-03-24 Thread Dale
Jörg Schaible wrote:
 Hi Dale,

 the scanner part of my Brother DCP stopped suddenly also one month ago. My 
 troubles were caused by the upgrade from sane-backends-1.0.23 to 1.0.24-r1. 
 Downgrading immediately led to a working scanner again.

 [snip]

 Cheers,
 Jörg


You can bet I'll try that later on tonight then.  If it is still in the
tree of course.  Heck, if it works, I don't care what version the
package is.  LOL   It's not like it is going to have new features.  ;-) 

Thanks for the info.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
you interpreted my words!




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: HP scanner is no longer found

2014-03-24 Thread Dale
Jörg Schaible wrote:
 Hi Dale,

 the scanner part of my Brother DCP stopped suddenly also one month ago. My 
 troubles were caused by the upgrade from sane-backends-1.0.23 to 1.0.24-r1. 
 Downgrading immediately led to a working scanner again.

 [snip]

 Cheers,
 Jörg


Gave the downgrade a try, no joy.  Still nothing.  :-(

Thanks for the top tho.  Worth a try for sure.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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