Re: [gentoo-user] [Less OT] Tally ho! - RC Flight Sims on Linux

2014-06-30 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Monday 30 June 2014 01:26:48 waben...@gmail.com wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 16:26
 
 schrieb Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com:
  waben...@gmail.com wrote:
   Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 20:38
   
   schrieb Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk:
   On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
   Please folks, stop that crap. It has nothing to do with gentoo or
   computers at all. If you wanna discuss the delightfulness of war
   machines then please to this at another place and not on this
   list.
   
   Allow me to introduce your to my good friend Delete and his
   lovely wife button
   
   Or you could filter anything with OT in the subject to /dev/null.
   It's not like this thread is masquerading as something relevant.
   
   That's not the point. If you wanna talk about stuff that's
   apparently absolut useless to almost every member of this ML, then
   you should do this at another place. Especially discussions with
   politically and or military background are IMHO absolutely
   inappropriate.
   
   But hey, maybe I'm wrong. Why shouldn't we talk here about
   everything that cross one's mind? We could mark it as OT in the
   subject line, so it should be no problem for everyone. Maybe we
   should discuss the local daily weather? I think, that's a pretty
   good idea as it would increase the noise level of this list even
   more. What do you think?
  
  Just a FYI.  I have in the past asked questions about Windoze XP on
  this very list.  Why, I'm not joining a windoze mailing list for just
  one question and I know a lot of people on this list know about
  windoze as well.  I have seen other topics raised on this list
  before.  It's not often but it does happen.  I see Gentoo threads
  that don't interest me at all and I just mark them as read and move
  right along but I don't tell folks that I don't want to see them.  I
  could start with systemd. If I see systemd in the subject, I mark it
  read and move right along usually without reading even the first
  post. Why, I don't use systemd so I am certainly not interested in
  it.  There are other threads that I do the same thing with.
 
 That's right. But all examples you've mentioned are computer related
 topics and maybe useful for anyone on this list.

We can turn this into a computer related thread.

Anyone know of a way to get a flight-sim (for model planes) to run on Linux?

I have a legit copy of Realflight ( http://www.realflight.com ) and 
occasionally 
have to boot into a legit copy (yes, all my software is 100% legit) of MS 
Windows.

Ideas welcome.

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] [Less OT] Tally ho! - RC Flight Sims on Linux

2014-06-30 Thread microcai
在 2014年6月30日 星期一 09:17:02,Joost Roeleveld 写道:
 On Monday 30 June 2014 01:26:48 waben...@gmail.com wrote:
  Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 16:26
  
  schrieb Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com:
   waben...@gmail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 20:38

schrieb Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Please folks, stop that crap. It has nothing to do with gentoo or
computers at all. If you wanna discuss the delightfulness of war
machines then please to this at another place and not on this
list.

Allow me to introduce your to my good friend Delete and his
lovely wife button

Or you could filter anything with OT in the subject to /dev/null.
It's not like this thread is masquerading as something relevant.

That's not the point. If you wanna talk about stuff that's
apparently absolut useless to almost every member of this ML, then
you should do this at another place. Especially discussions with
politically and or military background are IMHO absolutely
inappropriate.

But hey, maybe I'm wrong. Why shouldn't we talk here about
everything that cross one's mind? We could mark it as OT in the
subject line, so it should be no problem for everyone. Maybe we
should discuss the local daily weather? I think, that's a pretty
good idea as it would increase the noise level of this list even
more. What do you think?
   
   Just a FYI.  I have in the past asked questions about Windoze XP on
   this very list.  Why, I'm not joining a windoze mailing list for just
   one question and I know a lot of people on this list know about
   windoze as well.  I have seen other topics raised on this list
   before.  It's not often but it does happen.  I see Gentoo threads
   that don't interest me at all and I just mark them as read and move
   right along but I don't tell folks that I don't want to see them.  I
   could start with systemd. If I see systemd in the subject, I mark it
   read and move right along usually without reading even the first
   post. Why, I don't use systemd so I am certainly not interested in
   it.  There are other threads that I do the same thing with.
  
  That's right. But all examples you've mentioned are computer related
  topics and maybe useful for anyone on this list.
 
 We can turn this into a computer related thread.
 
 Anyone know of a way to get a flight-sim (for model planes) to run on Linux?
 
 I have a legit copy of Realflight ( http://www.realflight.com ) and
 occasionally have to boot into a legit copy (yes, all my software is 100%
 legit) of MS Windows.

X-plane ?


 
 Ideas welcome.
 
 --
 Joost




Re: [gentoo-user] [Less OT] Tally ho! - RC Flight Sims on Linux

2014-06-30 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Monday 30 June 2014 15:40:02 microcai wrote:
 在 2014年6月30日 星期一 09:17:02,Joost Roeleveld 写道:
 
  On Monday 30 June 2014 01:26:48 waben...@gmail.com wrote:
   Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 16:26
   
   schrieb Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com:
waben...@gmail.com wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 20:38
 
 schrieb Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk:
 On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 Please folks, stop that crap. It has nothing to do with gentoo or
 computers at all. If you wanna discuss the delightfulness of war
 machines then please to this at another place and not on this
 list.
 
 Allow me to introduce your to my good friend Delete and his
 lovely wife button
 
 Or you could filter anything with OT in the subject to /dev/null.
 It's not like this thread is masquerading as something relevant.
 
 That's not the point. If you wanna talk about stuff that's
 apparently absolut useless to almost every member of this ML, then
 you should do this at another place. Especially discussions with
 politically and or military background are IMHO absolutely
 inappropriate.
 
 But hey, maybe I'm wrong. Why shouldn't we talk here about
 everything that cross one's mind? We could mark it as OT in the
 subject line, so it should be no problem for everyone. Maybe we
 should discuss the local daily weather? I think, that's a pretty
 good idea as it would increase the noise level of this list even
 more. What do you think?

Just a FYI.  I have in the past asked questions about Windoze XP on
this very list.  Why, I'm not joining a windoze mailing list for just
one question and I know a lot of people on this list know about
windoze as well.  I have seen other topics raised on this list
before.  It's not often but it does happen.  I see Gentoo threads
that don't interest me at all and I just mark them as read and move
right along but I don't tell folks that I don't want to see them.  I
could start with systemd. If I see systemd in the subject, I mark it
read and move right along usually without reading even the first
post. Why, I don't use systemd so I am certainly not interested in
it.  There are other threads that I do the same thing with.
   
   That's right. But all examples you've mentioned are computer related
   topics and maybe useful for anyone on this list.
  
  We can turn this into a computer related thread.
  
  Anyone know of a way to get a flight-sim (for model planes) to run on
  Linux?
  
  I have a legit copy of Realflight ( http://www.realflight.com ) and
  occasionally have to boot into a legit copy (yes, all my software is 100%
  legit) of MS Windows.
 
 X-plane ?

Not what I'm looking for.
That simulates 1:1 scale planes (full size).

I am talking about one I can use to practice flying without risking my real 
planes on the first attempt. I need one where I can use my own transmitter 
connected to the computer. There are cables to hook them up to the USB-port.

But the problem is finding a decent one that actually runs on Linux. All the 
commercial ones I can find are MS Windows only.

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] [Less OT] Tally ho! - RC Flight Sims on Linux

2014-06-30 Thread Dale
Joost Roeleveld wrote:
 On Monday 30 June 2014 15:40:02 microcai wrote:
 在 2014年6月30日 星期一 09:17:02,Joost Roeleveld 写道:
 We can turn this into a computer related thread.

 Anyone know of a way to get a flight-sim (for model planes) to run on
 Linux?

 I have a legit copy of Realflight ( http://www.realflight.com ) and
 occasionally have to boot into a legit copy (yes, all my software is 100%
 legit) of MS Windows.
 X-plane ?
 Not what I'm looking for.
 That simulates 1:1 scale planes (full size).

 I am talking about one I can use to practice flying without risking my real 
 planes on the first attempt. I need one where I can use my own transmitter 
 connected to the computer. There are cables to hook them up to the USB-port.

 But the problem is finding a decent one that actually runs on Linux. All the 
 commercial ones I can find are MS Windows only.

 --
 Joost



Don't forget, there was a guitar that ran Gentoo Linux too.  Heck, did
plane engines have puters even back then?  I know they do now, at least
according to all the stuff I see on TV.  I don't think puter stuff
started until like in the 80's or something tho. 

M$ Windoze.  Yuck!  I wouldn't put that stuff on my rig. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] [Less OT] Tally ho! - RC Flight Sims on Linux

2014-06-30 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Monday 30 June 2014 03:56:44 Dale wrote:
 Joost Roeleveld wrote:
  On Monday 30 June 2014 15:40:02 microcai wrote:
  在 2014年6月30日 星期一 09:17:02,Joost Roeleveld 写道:
  
  We can turn this into a computer related thread.
  
  Anyone know of a way to get a flight-sim (for model planes) to run on
  Linux?
  
  I have a legit copy of Realflight ( http://www.realflight.com ) and
  occasionally have to boot into a legit copy (yes, all my software is
  100%
  legit) of MS Windows.
  
  X-plane ?
  
  Not what I'm looking for.
  That simulates 1:1 scale planes (full size).
  
  I am talking about one I can use to practice flying without risking my
  real
  planes on the first attempt. I need one where I can use my own transmitter
  connected to the computer. There are cables to hook them up to the
  USB-port.
  
  But the problem is finding a decent one that actually runs on Linux. All
  the commercial ones I can find are MS Windows only.
  
  --
  Joost
 
 Don't forget, there was a guitar that ran Gentoo Linux too.

I remember that one, still wondering about the point though, but that's just me 
:)

  Heck, did
 plane engines have puters even back then?  I know they do now, at least
 according to all the stuff I see on TV.  I don't think puter stuff
 started until like in the 80's or something tho.

They had computers during WWII, they used them to break the german encryption.

They appeared in planes not too long after:

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly-by-wire
***
The first non-experimental aircraft that was designed and flown (in 1958) with 
a fly-by-
wire flight control system was the Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow[1],^{[5][2][6][3]} 
a feat 
not repeated with a production aircraft until Concorde[4] in 1969. This system 
also 
included solid-state components and system redundancy, was designed to be 
integrated with a computerised navigation and automatic search and track radar, 
was 
flyable from ground control with data uplink and downlink, and provided 
artificial feel 
(feedback) to the pilot.
***

Also: 
https://airandspace.si.edu/exhibitions/america-by-air/online/jetage/jetage17.cfm

***
The first autopilots were used on airliners in the mid-1930s. In the late 
1950s, 
electronic computers became small enough to be used aboard aircraft. 
Sophisticated 
digital computers can now fly aircraft in virtually any situation, while 
ensuring that all 
systems are functioning properly.
***

 M$ Windoze.  Yuck!  I wouldn't put that stuff on my rig.

I do, for a few programs that aren't available on Linux (yet).
The flightsim for RC model planes is one of them.

--
Joost


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_CF-105_Arrow
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly-by-wire#cite_note-5
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly-by-wire#cite_note-Whitcomb-6
[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concorde


Re: [gentoo-user] [Less OT] Tally ho! - RC Flight Sims on Linux

2014-06-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/06/2014 09:40, microcai wrote:
 在 2014年6月30日 星期一 09:17:02,Joost Roeleveld 写道:
 On Monday 30 June 2014 01:26:48 waben...@gmail.com wrote:


[snip]


 That's right. But all examples you've mentioned are computer related
 topics and maybe useful for anyone on this list.

 We can turn this into a computer related thread.

 Anyone know of a way to get a flight-sim (for model planes) to run on Linux?

 I have a legit copy of Realflight ( http://www.realflight.com ) and
 occasionally have to boot into a legit copy (yes, all my software is 100%
 legit) of MS Windows.
 
 X-plane ?


wine?




-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] [Less OT] Tally ho! - RC Flight Sims on Linux

2014-06-30 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Monday 30 June 2014 11:51:08 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 30/06/2014 09:40, microcai wrote:
  在 2014年6月30日 星期一 09:17:02,Joost Roeleveld 写道:
  
  On Monday 30 June 2014 01:26:48 waben...@gmail.com wrote:
 [snip]
 
  That's right. But all examples you've mentioned are computer related
  topics and maybe useful for anyone on this list.
  
  We can turn this into a computer related thread.
  
  Anyone know of a way to get a flight-sim (for model planes) to run on
  Linux?
  
  I have a legit copy of Realflight ( http://www.realflight.com ) and
  occasionally have to boot into a legit copy (yes, all my software is 100%
  legit) of MS Windows.
  
  X-plane ?
 
 wine?

I try that once every few months, not been one that works yet.
Problem is the copy-protection with the one I use. The CD needs to be in the 
drive for it to work.

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] [Less OT] Tally ho! - RC Flight Sims on Linux

2014-06-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/06/2014 12:01, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
 On Monday 30 June 2014 11:51:08 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 30/06/2014 09:40, microcai wrote:
 在 2014年6月30日 星期一 09:17:02,Joost Roeleveld 写道:

 On Monday 30 June 2014 01:26:48 waben...@gmail.com wrote:
 [snip]

 That's right. But all examples you've mentioned are computer related
 topics and maybe useful for anyone on this list.

 We can turn this into a computer related thread.

 Anyone know of a way to get a flight-sim (for model planes) to run on
 Linux?

 I have a legit copy of Realflight ( http://www.realflight.com ) and
 occasionally have to boot into a legit copy (yes, all my software is 100%
 legit) of MS Windows.

 X-plane ?

 wine?
 
 I try that once every few months, not been one that works yet.
 Problem is the copy-protection with the one I use. The CD needs to be in the 
 drive for it to work.


Can you fudge it using a ripped .iso of the CD and loop mounting it
somewhere?




-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] [Less OT] Tally ho! - RC Flight Sims on Linux

2014-06-30 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Monday 30 June 2014 12:09:16 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 30/06/2014 12:01, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
  On Monday 30 June 2014 11:51:08 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On 30/06/2014 09:40, microcai wrote:
  在 2014年6月30日 星期一 09:17:02,Joost Roeleveld 写道:
  
  On Monday 30 June 2014 01:26:48 waben...@gmail.com wrote:
  [snip]
  
  That's right. But all examples you've mentioned are computer related
  topics and maybe useful for anyone on this list.
  
  We can turn this into a computer related thread.
  
  Anyone know of a way to get a flight-sim (for model planes) to run on
  Linux?
  
  I have a legit copy of Realflight ( http://www.realflight.com ) and
  occasionally have to boot into a legit copy (yes, all my software is
  100%
  legit) of MS Windows.
  
  X-plane ?
  
  wine?
  
  I try that once every few months, not been one that works yet.
  Problem is the copy-protection with the one I use. The CD needs to be in
  the drive for it to work.
 
 Can you fudge it using a ripped .iso of the CD and loop mounting it
 somewhere?

Would work in Linux, I guess. But even with the disk in the drive, it didn't 
work last time I tried it.
It is time for a new try though. But my preference would be something native.

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] [Less OT] Tally ho! - RC Flight Sims on Linux

2014-06-30 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 30/06/2014 09:40, microcai wrote:

 X-plane ?

 wine?





Sorry, I don't drink.  ROFL 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] [Less OT] Tally ho! - RC Flight Sims on Linux

2014-06-30 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Monday 30 June 2014 05:23:31 Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On 30/06/2014 09:40, microcai wrote:
  
  X-plane ?
  
  wine?
 
 Sorry, I don't drink.  ROFL

What about the alcohol free version?
Also known as grape juice...



Re: [gentoo-user] [Less OT] Tally ho! - RC Flight Sims on Linux

2014-06-30 Thread Dale
Joost Roeleveld wrote:
 On Monday 30 June 2014 05:23:31 Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 30/06/2014 09:40, microcai wrote:

 X-plane ?

 wine?
 Sorry, I don't drink.  ROFL
 What about the alcohol free version?
 Also known as grape juice...



On occasion.  Some times apple juice, tomato juice.  lol 

This thread is sort of funny.  We need a good laugh every now and then.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-)