Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo

2006-02-17 Thread Holly Bostick
Neil Bothwick schreef:
 On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:33:15 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
 
 This functionality is not in any way a hack:
 
 equery belongs /sbin/installkernel [ Searching for file(s) 
 /sbin/installkernel in *... ] sys-apps/debianutils-2.15 
 (/sbin/installkernel)
 
 
 It's part of system.
 
 # emerge -C debianutils
 
 !!! 'sys-apps/debianutils' is part of your system profile. !!! 
 Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
 
 
I suspected that (since it would be eminently logical for the package
that provides the 'make install' command to be on the system by
default), but as I said in an unquoted part of that mail I don't know
how to check what's in system.

Is there another way to get a list of packages that comprise the system
profile (other than just trying to unmerge one and getting a warning)?

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo

2006-02-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:45:39 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:

 Is there another way to get a list of packages that comprise the system
 profile (other than just trying to unmerge one and getting a warning)?

You could look at the packages files in the directory linked to
by /etc/make.profile and its parents. Or you could do emerge -pe system

$ emerge -pe system | grep debian
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/debianutils-2.15


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo

2006-02-16 Thread Holly Bostick
Mick schreef:
 John Jolet wrote:
 
 On 2/16/06 11:05 AM, Michael Kintzios
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 make install does exactly the same, and sets up the vmlinuz
 and vmlinuz.old symlinks to point to your new and previous
 kernel respectively, so you don't need to edit grub.conf.
 Hmm, it doesn't on my two boxen.  :-(  I do not have a
 vmlinuz, System.map and config links.
 
 Do I have to first set up the symlinks manually?
 
 Yep, /boot is always mounted (just to be sure I won't forget it,
 I always mount it before I even cd into /usr/src/linux).  Running
 make  make modules_install does *not* create any links in my
 /boot directory, ever.  Could it be that there's something wrong
 with my system(s) - at least three installations have always
 behaved like this . . .
 No, make makes the bzImage under /usr/src/linux.arch/.boot 
 And make modules_install installes the modules in /lib, I think.
 Neither of them touches /boot.  I THINK there's a make install
 that's supposed to do some stuff for you, but I prefer to do those
 steps by hand.
 
 I am confused:  how many 'make install's are there?  Don't they 'all'
 do the same?  Are we talking about a customised (hacked) make install
 here?

There is only one make install. It is the optional command out of the
set of commands used to compile and install a kernel:

make (which now includes make modules, whereas under 2.4-series kernels
you had to run make modules as a separate command) -- compiles the
kernel and modules

make modules_install -- installs dynamic (loadable) modules to
/lib/modules/kernel-version/

and you can then either copy the kernel manually to /boot, or use the
make install command to do so.

This functionality is not in any way a hack:

equery belongs /sbin/installkernel
[ Searching for file(s) /sbin/installkernel in *... ]
sys-apps/debianutils-2.15 (/sbin/installkernel)

Programs That Depend On debianutils
app-admin/sysklogd
app-portage/gentoolkit
app-text/noweb
dev-util/bazaar
dev-util/larch
dev-util/pbuilder
dev-util/tla
mail-filter/clamassassin
sys-apps/apmd
sys-boot/arcboot
x11-misc/sux
x11-wm/fvwm

And it's not in my world file, so it was probably installed by
gentoolkit or sux, which are the only two RDEPENDS of this list I have
installed (other than fvwm, but that's recent and I'm sure that I had
the ability to make install long before that). So I suppose it's possible
that some users might not have this, unless it's part of system, which I
don't know how to check.

But any utility ported from Debian certainly can't be considered a hack
by any stretch of the imagination

Holly

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo

2006-02-16 Thread John Jolet
 
 I am confused:  how many 'make install's are there?  Don't they 'all' do the
 same?  Are we talking about a customised (hacked) make install here?
Install is a target to make.  Install_modules is a target to make.  What's
confusing?  Make is a command.  Install or install_modules, or install_docs
(for other things) are targets in the Makefile.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo

2006-02-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:33:15 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:

 This functionality is not in any way a hack:
 
 equery belongs /sbin/installkernel
 [ Searching for file(s) /sbin/installkernel in *... ]
 sys-apps/debianutils-2.15 (/sbin/installkernel)
 
 Programs That Depend On debianutils
 app-admin/sysklogd
 app-portage/gentoolkit
 app-text/noweb
 dev-util/bazaar
 dev-util/larch
 dev-util/pbuilder
 dev-util/tla
 mail-filter/clamassassin
 sys-apps/apmd
 sys-boot/arcboot
 x11-misc/sux
 x11-wm/fvwm
 
 And it's not in my world file, so it was probably installed by
 gentoolkit or sux, which are the only two RDEPENDS of this list I have
 installed

It's part of system.

# emerge -C debianutils

!!! 'sys-apps/debianutils' is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.


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