On 25 June 2011, at 14:58, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Saturday 25 June 2011 13:46:35 justin wrote:
...
Trying to avoid any fortran at all is stupid,
That's the sort of arrogance that gets developers a bad name.
as already mentioned many math operations are faster if programmed in
fortran.
On Sunday 26 June 2011 11:45:24 Stroller wrote:
I would be glad to bitch out the devs and say why aren't you doing it
this way?, why isn't this fixed yet? but I don't feel I have any
right to. I'm reserving bitching out the devs until I can afford to pay
them money on a regular basis. What's
On 24 June 2011, at 01:14, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:01:30 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
1) what's the difference between package.keywords and
package.accept_keywords?
The latter is the new name for the former.
So I can just `mv /etc/portage/package.keywords
On 23 June 2011, at 22:57, Neil Bothwick wrote:
... I just keep entries in alphabetical order in single
files. I find it easier.
That doesn't help with linked packages with different names. If foo
requires libbar with USE=snafu, I put it in/etc/portage/package.use/foo
Then if I remove foo,
* Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org [110623 18:34]:
On 6/23/2011 6:22 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Wednesday 22 June 2011 16:50:10 Dale wrote:
If you use KDE like me, be prepared to put the thing back tho. Some KDE
packages depend on things that seem to need it enabled.
Looks like
On 6/23/2011 8:31 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:54:14 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote:
It's one package (cantor) that has one dependency (R) that is optional
(USE=-R) that falls squarely into the if you aren't sure if you need it
then you probably don't category. So for most
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 13:02 +0100, Stroller wrote:
On 23 June 2011, at 22:57, Neil Bothwick wrote:
... I just keep entries in alphabetical order in single
files. I find it easier.
That doesn't help with linked packages with different names. If foo
requires libbar with USE=snafu, I put
On Friday 24 June 2011 12:56:48 Stroller did opine thusly:
On 24 June 2011, at 01:14, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:01:30 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
1) what's the difference between package.keywords and
package.accept_keywords?
The latter is the new name for the former.
On 6/24/2011 8:03 AM, Todd Goodman wrote:
* Mike Edenfieldkut...@kutulu.org [110623 18:34]:
It's one package (cantor) that has one dependency (R) that is optional
(USE=-R) that falls squarely into the if you aren't sure if you need it
then you probably don't category. So for most users, no,
* Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org [110624 08:25]:
On 6/24/2011 8:03 AM, Todd Goodman wrote:
* Mike Edenfieldkut...@kutulu.org [110623 18:34]:
It's one package (cantor) that has one dependency (R) that is optional
(USE=-R) that falls squarely into the if you aren't sure if you need it
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net wrote:
* Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org [110624 08:25]:
On 6/24/2011 8:03 AM, Todd Goodman wrote:
* Mike Edenfieldkut...@kutulu.org [110623 18:34]:
It's one package (cantor) that has one dependency (R) that is optional
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:02:23 +0100, Stroller wrote:
I like the idea of package.use as a directory of indie files, but
haven't bothered switching over because this works so well for me. The
package.use directory system seems too simple to be true - is it really
no more complex than a directory
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:56:48 +0100, Stroller wrote:
1) what's the difference between package.keywords and
package.accept_keywords?
The latter is the new name for the former.
So I can just
`mv /etc/portage/package.keywords /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords`
and nothing will
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:43:50 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
Or maybe 'kde-meta as currently constructed by someone somewhere is a
bloat monster in some other people's opinions'. And, we're not
required to use it.
kde-meta is, by definition, a bloat-monster. It's sole purpose is to
install
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:35:55 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote:
That's not the only one. Digikam has a hard depend on clapack, which
requires virtual/blas and thus a Fortran compiler.
Hrm. I installed kde-meta and it didn't pull in Digikam.
I didn't say it would. I meant that installing
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:03:04 -0400, Todd Goodman wrote:
What seems strange then is that if everyone keeps telling Dale that he
most likely doesn't need cantor and R then why is R enabled in the
profile by default?
Because if you do need cantor, it works best with R. But the point is
that he
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 08:43:50AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote
95% of what I do in KDE is run Firefox or a VM for trading
futures and the balance is mostly use a terminal to maintain my
systems. I use Skype a little, backup to a few different external
hard drives. Sometimes I play solitaire.
* Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [110622 18:35]:
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net wrote:
SNIP
No actually blas-reference fails to build unless gcc is built with the
fortran use flag enabled (since there's no fortran compiler available.)
The deps
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net wrote:
* Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [110622 18:35]:
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net wrote:
SNIP
No actually blas-reference fails to build unless gcc is built with the
fortran use flag
On Wednesday 22 June 2011 16:50:10 Dale wrote:
If you use KDE like me, be prepared to put the thing back tho. Some KDE
packages depend on things that seem to need it enabled.
Looks like it's only packages that are pulled in by kdeedu-meta. Do you need
all those?
--
Rgds
Peter
On Wednesday 22 June 2011 23:35:37 Dale wrote:
Maybe we have something different then. I don't have blas-reference on
here anymore either. My point was, disabling fortran to remove it only
lead to other stuff being required. I think there is more on here now
than there was before. So,
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Wednesday 22 June 2011 16:50:10 Dale wrote:
If you use KDE like me, be prepared to put the thing back tho. Some KDE
packages depend on things that seem to need it enabled.
Looks like it's only packages that are pulled in by kdeedu-meta. Do you need
all
On Thursday 23 June 2011 23:30:04 Peter Humphrey did opine thusly:
On Wednesday 22 June 2011 23:35:37 Dale wrote:
Maybe we have something different then. I don't have
blas-reference on here anymore either. My point was, disabling
fortran to remove it only lead to other stuff being
On 6/23/2011 6:22 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Wednesday 22 June 2011 16:50:10 Dale wrote:
If you use KDE like me, be prepared to put the thing back tho. Some KDE
packages depend on things that seem to need it enabled.
Looks like it's only packages that are pulled in by kdeedu-meta. Do
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
I install with kde-meta. It pulls about all things KDE in with that. For
me, it is better to use kde-meta than to do it any other way. Even with
kde-meta, I think there is a few that I still had to emerge manually.
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Wednesday 22 June 2011 23:35:37 Dale wrote:
Maybe we have something different then. I don't have blas-reference on
here anymore either. My point was, disabling fortran to remove it only
lead to other stuff being required. I think there is more on here now
than
On Thursday 23 June 2011 23:48:11 Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Thursday 23 June 2011 23:30:04 Peter Humphrey did opine thusly:
On Wednesday 22 June 2011 23:35:37 Dale wrote:
Maybe we have something different then. I don't have
blas-reference on here anymore either. My point was, disabling
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:54:14 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote:
It's one package (cantor) that has one dependency (R) that is optional
(USE=-R) that falls squarely into the if you aren't sure if you need it
then you probably don't category. So for most users, no, you don't need
to build gcc with
on 06/22/2011 06:55 AM Dale wrote the following:
Heads up for folks about to do their updates, check into the USE flag
fortran to see if you need to add it to yours before updating a bunch of
stuff.
I noticed that if you don't add fortran to your USE flags and something
needs fortran, unless
on 06/22/2011 08:46 AM justin wrote the following:
One little note,
if portage requests that you should install dev-lang/ifc instead of
gcc[fortran], you most probably have an entry
sys-devel/gcc -fortran
in
your /etc/portage/package.use
Just remove that.
I didn't have fortran
On 22/06/11 08:29, Thanasis wrote:
on 06/22/2011 08:46 AM justin wrote the following:
One little note,
if portage requests that you should install dev-lang/ifc instead of
gcc[fortran], you most probably have an entry
sys-devel/gcc -fortran
in
your /etc/portage/package.use
Just
On 22/06/11 08:33, justin wrote:
On 22/06/11 08:29, Thanasis wrote:
on 06/22/2011 08:46 AM justin wrote the following:
One little note,
if portage requests that you should install dev-lang/ifc instead of
gcc[fortran], you most probably have an entry
sys-devel/gcc -fortran
in
your
On 06/22/11 02:29, Thanasis wrote:
on 06/22/2011 08:46 AM justin wrote the following:
One little note,
if portage requests that you should install dev-lang/ifc instead of
gcc[fortran], you most probably have an entry
sys-devel/gcc -fortran
in
your /etc/portage/package.use
Just remove
on 06/22/2011 09:33 AM justin wrote the following:
On 22/06/11 08:29, Thanasis wrote:
on 06/22/2011 08:46 AM justin wrote the following:
One little note,
if portage requests that you should install dev-lang/ifc instead of
gcc[fortran], you most probably have an entry
sys-devel/gcc
on 06/22/2011 10:32 AM Matthew Finkel wrote the following:
On 06/22/11 02:29, Thanasis wrote:
on 06/22/2011 08:46 AM justin wrote the following:
One little note,
if portage requests that you should install dev-lang/ifc instead of
gcc[fortran], you most probably have an entry
sys-devel/gcc
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Heads up for folks about to do their updates, check into the USE flag
fortran to see if you need to add it to yours before updating a bunch of
stuff.
Dale
This is my one strange, mystery global use flag. It's been turned
On Wednesday 22 Jun 2011 14:29:58 Mark Knecht wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Heads up for folks about to do their updates, check into the USE flag
fortran to see if you need to add it to yours before updating a bunch of
stuff.
Dale
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday 22 Jun 2011 14:29:58 Mark Knecht wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Heads up for folks about to do their updates, check into the USE flag
fortran to see if you
Mark Knecht wrote:
I guess I can stop playing scaredicat and remove it. :-)
- Mark
I think the dev added it back. So, if you really don't need it, put the
minus sign in front.
If you use KDE like me, be prepared to put the thing back tho. Some KDE
packages depend on things that
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
I guess I can stop playing scaredicat and remove it. :-)
- Mark
I think the dev added it back. So, if you really don't need it, put the
minus sign in front.
If you use KDE like me, be prepared to put
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
I guess I can stop playing scaredicat and remove it. :-)
- Mark
I think the dev added it back. So, if you really don't need it, put the
minus sign in front.
If you
On 06/22/11 14:10, Dale wrote:
I put -fortran in make.conf. I ran emerge -uvDNa world and let it
rebuild a few packages. Then I get this:
Emerging (1 of 2) sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226
* lapack-lite-3.1.1.tgz RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-)
...
Matthew Finkel wrote:
On 06/22/11 14:10, Dale wrote:
I put -fortran in make.conf. I ran emerge -uvDNa world and let it
rebuild a few packages. Then I get this:
Emerging (1 of 2) sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226
* lapack-lite-3.1.1.tgz RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-)
...
* Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [110622 16:41]:
Matthew Finkel wrote:
[...]
Do correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't blas-reference pulled in by
merging gcc with USE=fortran? Or did you install blas-reference for
another reason?
No clue. I just -c'd some stuff and kept running
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net wrote:
SNIP
No actually blas-reference fails to build unless gcc is built with the
fortran use flag enabled (since there's no fortran compiler available.)
The deps pulling in blas-reference are in my previous mail.
Todd
If
Todd Goodman wrote:
* Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com [110622 16:41]:
Matthew Finkel wrote:
[...]
Do correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't blas-reference pulled in by
merging gcc with USE=fortran? Or did you install blas-reference for
another reason?
No clue. I just -c'd
On 06/21/11 23:55, Dale wrote:
I just did my updates and ran into this:
* Maintainer: s...@gentoo.org
* USE:amd64 consolekit elibc_glibc kernel_linux multilib
policykit userland_GNU
* FEATURES: preserve-libs sandbox
* Please install currently selected gcc version with
On 22/06/11 06:31, Matthew Finkel wrote:
On 06/21/11 23:55, Dale wrote:
I just did my updates and ran into this:
* Maintainer: s...@gentoo.org
* USE:amd64 consolekit elibc_glibc kernel_linux multilib
policykit userland_GNU
* FEATURES: preserve-libs sandbox
* Please install
On 22/06/11 07:25, justin wrote:
On 22/06/11 06:31, Matthew Finkel wrote:
On 06/21/11 23:55, Dale wrote:
I just did my updates and ran into this:
* Maintainer: s...@gentoo.org
* USE:amd64 consolekit elibc_glibc kernel_linux multilib
policykit userland_GNU
* FEATURES:
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