Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:32:51 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:

  Me, it's the other way around. Can't stand Kies Air, so I changed to
  AirDroid.  
 
 Same here, Kies Air doesn't allow multiple files to be selected
 downloaded at once, something I find an absolute must when wanting to
 download the pictures I took of my daughter playing :)

OK, you win, I'll give AirDroid another go!


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Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 19:53:20 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote:

 I have found go-mtpfs to work much better with my Galaxy Nexus.
 
 https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs/
 
 There is no ebuild for it, mostly because I haven't figured out how to
 package go programs.

There is also Kies, a Samsung program in the market that does the same
sort of thing as AirDroid. I tried AirDroid a couple of phones ago but
can't remember why I didn't like it.



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Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-23 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jul 23, 2012 4:36 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 19:53:20 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote:

  I have found go-mtpfs to work much better with my Galaxy Nexus.
 
  https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs/
 
  There is no ebuild for it, mostly because I haven't figured out how to
  package go programs.

 There is also Kies, a Samsung program in the market that does the same
 sort of thing as AirDroid. I tried AirDroid a couple of phones ago but
 can't remember why I didn't like it.


Me, it's the other way around. Can't stand Kies Air, so I changed to
AirDroid.

Rgds,


Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-23 Thread J. Roeleveld

On Mon, July 23, 2012 2:12 pm, Pandu Poluan wrote:
 On Jul 23, 2012 4:36 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 19:53:20 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote:

  I have found go-mtpfs to work much better with my Galaxy Nexus.
 
  https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs/
 
  There is no ebuild for it, mostly because I haven't figured out how to
  package go programs.

 There is also Kies, a Samsung program in the market that does the same
 sort of thing as AirDroid. I tried AirDroid a couple of phones ago but
 can't remember why I didn't like it.


 Me, it's the other way around. Can't stand Kies Air, so I changed to
 AirDroid.

Same here, Kies Air doesn't allow multiple files to be selected downloaded
at once, something I find an absolute must when wanting to download the
pictures I took of my daughter playing :)

-- 
Joost




Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-22 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Matthew Marlowe
m...@professionalsysadmin.com wrote:
 I did some googling and there are a number of comments but no clear
 recommendations.  Has anyone here performed file transfer
 gentoo -- samsung S3.


 You have two choices:
 a) if you just need to transfer video/pictures, there is a
 compatibility mode you can toggle inside android settings to enable
 ptp mode that apps like digikam understand.
 b) if you really want to mount the android fs in gentoo, and transfer
 all types of files, than you'll need to use a tool like mtpfs (eix
 mtpfs for more info).

 I tried the mtpfs approach first, but found that was not that reliable
 and switched to the digikam method which has met all my needs.


I have found go-mtpfs to work much better with my Galaxy Nexus.

https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs/

There is no ebuild for it, mostly because I haven't figured out how to
package go programs.



Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-20 Thread Willie WY Wong
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 07:29:57AM +0200, Penguin Lover J. Roeleveld squawked:
 Aside from installing an FTP-server, you can also install AirDroid, it
 lets you control the phone via a webbrowser over a WIFI-connection.
 
 It lets you backup nearly everything from your phone, including the
 applications you installed. When downloading multiple files at once, it
 zips them first.
 
 I also like the option to transfer the clipboard to/from the phone and
 type text messages (SMS) in a webbrowser to be sent out by the phone.
 

Wow! New found capabilities for my droid. Thanks!

W 



Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-20 Thread Aaron Russell
Desksms also lets you send texts form your computer. but uses gtalk i
believe.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Willie WY Wong wong...@member.ams.orgwrote:

 On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 07:29:57AM +0200, Penguin Lover J. Roeleveld
 squawked:
  Aside from installing an FTP-server, you can also install AirDroid, it
  lets you control the phone via a webbrowser over a WIFI-connection.
 
  It lets you backup nearly everything from your phone, including the
  applications you installed. When downloading multiple files at once, it
  zips them first.
 
  I also like the option to transfer the clipboard to/from the phone and
  type text messages (SMS) in a webbrowser to be sent out by the phone.
 

 Wow! New found capabilities for my droid. Thanks!

 W




Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:18:36 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

  Oh, make sure you config the phone to be connected to a puter.  I
  always forget that with my phone and it makes me scratch my head for
  a while  
 
 That is like my previous phone an htc incredible.  This one doesn't
 offer that choice (or at least I can't find it).

There is a package you can install to enable USB mass storage, but it's
not in the market. Bear in mind though that this can cause problems,
because the S3 doesn't expect the memory to suddenly become unavailable,
the whole reason for using MTP is that you don't have to unmount the
storage and stop any applications that are using it to transfer a few
files.

However, I've also found all the mtp options in portage to be unreliable,
so I run QuickSSHd on the phone and transfer files with scp or mount the
phone with sshfs.


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Things which must be shipped together as a set, aren't.


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Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-19 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Thu, Jul 19 2012, Neil Bothwick wrote:

 However, I've also found all the mtp options in portage to be unreliable,
 so I run QuickSSHd on the phone and transfer files with scp or mount the
 phone with sshfs.

First let me thank everyone for all the great suggestions.  I will be
trying them out.

I started with quicksshd since (I like to believe) I understand ssh.

I have moved a picture and some songs from my laptop to the appropriate
directories on the phone.  Currently after I do the sftp using the gnome
file manager (I will try straight scp soon), the picture and songs
didn't appear until I reboot the phone.  Is there a better way?

thanks again to all.
allan




Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:12:38 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

 I have moved a picture and some songs from my laptop to the appropriate
 directories on the phone.  Currently after I do the sftp using the gnome
 file manager (I will try straight scp soon), the picture and songs
 didn't appear until I reboot the phone.  Is there a better way?

You need to force a rescan of the media. I'm sure I've seen an option for
this somewhere, but can't find it right now.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity;
 and I'm not sure about the the universe.
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Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-19 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jul 20, 2012 4:50 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:12:38 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

  I have moved a picture and some songs from my laptop to the appropriate
  directories on the phone.  Currently after I do the sftp using the gnome
  file manager (I will try straight scp soon), the picture and songs
  didn't appear until I reboot the phone.  Is there a better way?

 You need to force a rescan of the media. I'm sure I've seen an option for
 this somewhere, but can't find it right now.


If you install Widgetsoid, one of its myriad of buttons is a button that
conveniently triggers the Media Scanner.

Rgds,


Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-19 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Thu, Jul 19 2012, Pandu Poluan wrote:

 On Jul 20, 2012 4:50 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:12:38 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

  I have moved a picture and some songs from my laptop to the appropriate
  directories on the phone.  Currently after I do the sftp using the gnome
  file manager (I will try straight scp soon), the picture and songs
  didn't appear until I reboot the phone.  Is there a better way?

 You need to force a rescan of the media. I'm sure I've seen an option for
 this somewhere, but can't find it right now.


 If you install Widgetsoid, one of its myriad of buttons is a button that
 conveniently triggers the Media Scanner.

Thank you.
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-18 Thread Matthew Marlowe
 I did some googling and there are a number of comments but no clear
 recommendations.  Has anyone here performed file transfer
 gentoo -- samsung S3.


You have two choices:
a) if you just need to transfer video/pictures, there is a
compatibility mode you can toggle inside android settings to enable
ptp mode that apps like digikam understand.
b) if you really want to mount the android fs in gentoo, and transfer
all types of files, than you'll need to use a tool like mtpfs (eix
mtpfs for more info).

I tried the mtpfs approach first, but found that was not that reliable
and switched to the digikam method which has met all my needs.

Matt



Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-18 Thread Dale
Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 I just purchased a new smartphone (samsung galaxy S III), which runs
 android ice cream sandwitch 4.0.4).  I would like to copy files
 to and from the phone.  The phone manual describes how to do this for
 windows (nothing needed) and Mac (a program to download), but not for
 gnu-linux.  Apparently the phone supports MTP (media transfer protocol)
 and PTP (picture transfer protocol)

 I did some googling and there are a number of comments but no clear
 recommendations.  Has anyone here performed file transfer
 gentoo -- samsung S3.

 I run amd64, but I don't think that is very relevant.

 Just mounting or ftp would be enough; I really just want to move some
 files.

 I don't have an SD card on the phone, but would be willing to get one if
 that is needed.

 thanks,
 allan

I use wammu for my Motorola.  It works pretty good.  You may want to
check into that until someone else chimes in with something else or
something better. 

Oh, make sure you config the phone to be connected to a puter.  I always
forget that with my phone and it makes me scratch my head for a while
then smack my forehead when I remember to change/check the config in the
phone. 

Hope that helps. 

Dale

:-)  :-)

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
you interpreted my words!




Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:04 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 I just purchased a new smartphone (samsung galaxy S III), which runs
 android ice cream sandwitch 4.0.4).  I would like to copy files
 to and from the phone.  The phone manual describes how to do this for
 windows (nothing needed) and Mac (a program to download), but not for
 gnu-linux.  Apparently the phone supports MTP (media transfer protocol)
 and PTP (picture transfer protocol)

 I did some googling and there are a number of comments but no clear
 recommendations.  Has anyone here performed file transfer
 gentoo -- samsung S3.

 I run amd64, but I don't think that is very relevant.

 Just mounting or ftp would be enough; I really just want to move some
 files.


You should be able to mount it without any problems. I have ICS on my Nexus
S and the only requirement to mounting the phone as a USB device is to
toggle the USB Mass Storage option (it should show up in the notification
bar). On my phone, the usb storage  uses ext4 (IIRC), so drivers for this
aren't an problem. Once the setting is toggled, it's automatically assigned
a device mapping and it's usable as a normal USB drive from there.


Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-18 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 20:04 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 I just purchased a new smartphone (samsung galaxy S III), which runs
 android ice cream sandwitch 4.0.4).  I would like to copy files

I just treated it like another linux system ... connect to wireless (I
presume you have that), install AndFTP and/or rsync backup for android
from the playstore.  Both work using ssh to a linux system, but are
slightly different.

There should be (have not tried it) apps for bluetooth and usb
networking as well.

Found it great for a large file sneakernet between home/work!

BillK






Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-18 Thread Aaron Russell
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Matthew Finkel matthew.fin...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:04 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 I just purchased a new smartphone (samsung galaxy S III), which runs
 android ice cream sandwitch 4.0.4).  I would like to copy files
 to and from the phone.  The phone manual describes how to do this for
 windows (nothing needed) and Mac (a program to download), but not for
 gnu-linux.  Apparently the phone supports MTP (media transfer protocol)
 and PTP (picture transfer protocol)

 I did some googling and there are a number of comments but no clear
 recommendations.  Has anyone here performed file transfer
 gentoo -- samsung S3.

 I run amd64, but I don't think that is very relevant.

 Just mounting or ftp would be enough; I really just want to move some
 files.


 You should be able to mount it without any problems. I have ICS on my
 Nexus S and the only requirement to mounting the phone as a USB device is
 to toggle the USB Mass Storage option (it should show up in the
 notification bar). On my phone, the usb storage  uses ext4 (IIRC), so
 drivers for this aren't an problem. Once the setting is toggled, it's
 automatically assigned a device mapping and it's usable as a normal USB
 drive from there.


That does not work on the S3 because i believe it is basically one
partition unlike the Nexus S which has a separate partition for internal
storage.

 I have used mtpfs in Android 3.0 on my gentoo system and found it slow and
unreliable. A lot might of changed in the last 6 months with mtpfs though
so try it and see how it works.

You could use a program for android called adb but its slow at pushing
files so if they are gonna be videos i would stay away.

And the way i do it on my Galaxy nexus is use dropbox. Move to dropbox
folder than download form the dropbox app on the phone. Not the best but
its easiest for me.


Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-18 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jul 19, 2012 7:10 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 I just purchased a new smartphone (samsung galaxy S III), which runs
 android ice cream sandwitch 4.0.4).  I would like to copy files
 to and from the phone.  The phone manual describes how to do this for
 windows (nothing needed) and Mac (a program to download), but not for
 gnu-linux.  Apparently the phone supports MTP (media transfer protocol)
 and PTP (picture transfer protocol)

 I did some googling and there are a number of comments but no clear
 recommendations.  Has anyone here performed file transfer
 gentoo -- samsung S3.

 I run amd64, but I don't think that is very relevant.

 Just mounting or ftp would be enough; I really just want to move some
 files.

 I don't have an SD card on the phone, but would be willing to get one if
 that is needed.


If your phone and your computer can connect to the same wifi router (not
necessarily both wifi; the SGS3 use wifi, you're computer can use a UTP
cable), I suggest installing AirDroid on your SGS3.

Then you can access your SGS3 using your browser :-)

... unless your Gentoo is pure text-based. In which situation, AndFTP is a
good choice.

Or... you can turn the relation around: Install ES File Explorer on the
SGS3, and you can use FTP or Samba to transfer files.

Rgds,


Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-18 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Jul 18 2012, Dale wrote:

 Oh, make sure you config the phone to be connected to a puter.  I always
 forget that with my phone and it makes me scratch my head for a while

That is like my previous phone an htc incredible.  This one doesn't
offer that choice (or at least I can't find it).

I just get to choose mtp or ptp.

thanks,
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-18 Thread J. Roeleveld

On Thu, July 19, 2012 2:04 am, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 I just purchased a new smartphone (samsung galaxy S III), which runs
 android ice cream sandwitch 4.0.4).  I would like to copy files
 to and from the phone.  The phone manual describes how to do this for
 windows (nothing needed) and Mac (a program to download), but not for
 gnu-linux.  Apparently the phone supports MTP (media transfer protocol)
 and PTP (picture transfer protocol)

 I did some googling and there are a number of comments but no clear
 recommendations.  Has anyone here performed file transfer
 gentoo -- samsung S3.

 I run amd64, but I don't think that is very relevant.

 Just mounting or ftp would be enough; I really just want to move some
 files.

 I don't have an SD card on the phone, but would be willing to get one if
 that is needed.

 thanks,
 allan

Allan,

Aside from installing an FTP-server, you can also install AirDroid, it
lets you control the phone via a webbrowser over a WIFI-connection.

It lets you backup nearly everything from your phone, including the
applications you installed. When downloading multiple files at once, it
zips them first.

I also like the option to transfer the clipboard to/from the phone and
type text messages (SMS) in a webbrowser to be sent out by the phone.

--
Joost


-- 
Joost