Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
Thanks, Dale, for your point of view. But since I'm not the only user (my wife is forced to use it, too ;-) )and I am the only one that knows how to use a command line session, for instance, I still want to try to make this semantic desktop thing to work. Thanks, again, and Best Regards Francisco 2015-08-21 22:36 GMT-03:00 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Friday, August 21, 2015 6:27:36 PM Dale wrote: Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Thank you all. Francisco Reading your posts, it seems you don't really want this feature of KDE. Why not disable the thing? I have this in make.conf: -nepomuk -semantic-desktop So far, that has disabled the whole desktop search thingy, that I also found to be a pest and never needed. Just a thought, in case you wasn't aware. Dale :-) :-) Do you use kmail? I disabled nepomuk at one point and I wasn't able to access my contacts on kmail. I think it's the same with baloo. And from what I've read the plan is for more applications to use it so you may miss important features. They recommend just disabling file indexing or adding your home directory to the exclusion list on system settings, But after doing that I still got that popup a few times until I okay'd it. I used to use Kmail until all this mess started. I think the last I used Kmail was back in KDE3. When I saw all this mess coming, I switched to Seamonkey. Seamonkey does all my email stuff and I'm happy with it. I do wish the sound notification thingy would work tho. Maybe I just need to sit down one day and try to figure out why it doesn't work. Sound works everywhere else. Still, it does what I really need without to much bloat. I installed KDE with the kde-meta. It basically installs everything but the kitchen sink. To be honest tho, I could likely install it in a better way that leaves out TONS of stuff I never use. This file indexer thingy is one of the ones I have never had a need for. If I want to find some file, locate, find and etc works for those rare occasions. It is rare since I'm fairly well organized with my stuff. Well, computer files at least. My closet and shop is a different matter tho. lol My point was that this can be disabled IF it is not needed. If it is needed, then fixing it is the solution. If it is not, disable it and shove the problem into the trash can. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
2015-08-24 9:14 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: Thanks, Dale, for your point of view. But since I'm not the only user (my wife is forced to use it, too ;-) )and I am the only one that knows how to use a command line session, for instance, I still want to try to make this semantic desktop thing to work. Thanks, again, and Best Regards Francisco 2015-08-21 22:36 GMT-03:00 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Friday, August 21, 2015 6:27:36 PM Dale wrote: Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Thank you all. Francisco Reading your posts, it seems you don't really want this feature of KDE. Why not disable the thing? I have this in make.conf: -nepomuk -semantic-desktop So far, that has disabled the whole desktop search thingy, that I also found to be a pest and never needed. Just a thought, in case you wasn't aware. Dale :-) :-) Do you use kmail? I disabled nepomuk at one point and I wasn't able to access my contacts on kmail. I think it's the same with baloo. And from what I've read the plan is for more applications to use it so you may miss important features. They recommend just disabling file indexing or adding your home directory to the exclusion list on system settings, But after doing that I still got that popup a few times until I okay'd it. I used to use Kmail until all this mess started. I think the last I used Kmail was back in KDE3. When I saw all this mess coming, I switched to Seamonkey. Seamonkey does all my email stuff and I'm happy with it. I do wish the sound notification thingy would work tho. Maybe I just need to sit down one day and try to figure out why it doesn't work. Sound works everywhere else. Still, it does what I really need without to much bloat. I installed KDE with the kde-meta. It basically installs everything but the kitchen sink. To be honest tho, I could likely install it in a better way that leaves out TONS of stuff I never use. This file indexer thingy is one of the ones I have never had a need for. If I want to find some file, locate, find and etc works for those rare occasions. It is rare since I'm fairly well organized with my stuff. Well, computer files at least. My closet and shop is a different matter tho. lol My point was that this can be disabled IF it is not needed. If it is needed, then fixing it is the solution. If it is not, disable it and shove the problem into the trash can. ;-) Dale :-) :-) Thanks to all that have posted. I tried a clean start: I've deleted all related (at least all that I could find) files used by baloo (just kept some backup copies in a ZIP file, just in case). As expected, all of them are back, and also that popup window, requiring root password. I guess, now, I am (we are) looking on the wrong place, perhaps this is a global setting, not a user one. Going to check this out. Thanks again, and Best Regards Francisco
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
2015-08-24 10:13 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-24 9:14 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: Thanks, Dale, for your point of view. But since I'm not the only user (my wife is forced to use it, too ;-) )and I am the only one that knows how to use a command line session, for instance, I still want to try to make this semantic desktop thing to work. Thanks, again, and Best Regards Francisco 2015-08-21 22:36 GMT-03:00 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Friday, August 21, 2015 6:27:36 PM Dale wrote: Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Thank you all. Francisco Reading your posts, it seems you don't really want this feature of KDE. Why not disable the thing? I have this in make.conf: -nepomuk -semantic-desktop So far, that has disabled the whole desktop search thingy, that I also found to be a pest and never needed. Just a thought, in case you wasn't aware. Dale :-) :-) Do you use kmail? I disabled nepomuk at one point and I wasn't able to access my contacts on kmail. I think it's the same with baloo. And from what I've read the plan is for more applications to use it so you may miss important features. They recommend just disabling file indexing or adding your home directory to the exclusion list on system settings, But after doing that I still got that popup a few times until I okay'd it. I used to use Kmail until all this mess started. I think the last I used Kmail was back in KDE3. When I saw all this mess coming, I switched to Seamonkey. Seamonkey does all my email stuff and I'm happy with it. I do wish the sound notification thingy would work tho. Maybe I just need to sit down one day and try to figure out why it doesn't work. Sound works everywhere else. Still, it does what I really need without to much bloat. I installed KDE with the kde-meta. It basically installs everything but the kitchen sink. To be honest tho, I could likely install it in a better way that leaves out TONS of stuff I never use. This file indexer thingy is one of the ones I have never had a need for. If I want to find some file, locate, find and etc works for those rare occasions. It is rare since I'm fairly well organized with my stuff. Well, computer files at least. My closet and shop is a different matter tho. lol My point was that this can be disabled IF it is not needed. If it is needed, then fixing it is the solution. If it is not, disable it and shove the problem into the trash can. ;-) Dale :-) :-) Thanks to all that have posted. I tried a clean start: I've deleted all related (at least all that I could find) files used by baloo (just kept some backup copies in a ZIP file, just in case). As expected, all of them are back, and also that popup window, requiring root password. I guess, now, I am (we are) looking on the wrong place, perhaps this is a global setting, not a user one. Going to check this out. Thanks again, and Best Regards Francisco Found this: ~ # cat /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.baloo.filewatch.conf !DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC -//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd; busconfig !-- Only user root can own the foo helper -- policy user=root allow own=org.kde.baloo.filewatch/ /policy /busconfig Looks like there might be something related to what I am facing, isn't it? Googling the file name, I got this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339465 https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/2ibdf7/what_is_baloo_file_watch_and_why_does_it_need/ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/kde-4-13-3-%5Balien%5D-annoying-kde-polkit-and-wallet-prompts-4175517244/ So, got back to the first and (as it seems) proper solution, but with no effects, for now. Perhaps I'll just wait and see future upgrades on baloo. Meanwhile I will try to filter more directories not to be indexed, and/or increasing the limit on /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf by hand. Thanks! Francisco
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
On Monday, August 24, 2015 11:31:04 AM Francisco Ares wrote: 2015-08-24 10:13 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-24 9:14 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: Thanks, Dale, for your point of view. But since I'm not the only user (my wife is forced to use it, too ;-) )and I am the only one that knows how to use a command line session, for instance, I still want to try to make this semantic desktop thing to work. Thanks, again, and Best Regards Francisco 2015-08-21 22:36 GMT-03:00 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Friday, August 21, 2015 6:27:36 PM Dale wrote: Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Thank you all. Francisco Reading your posts, it seems you don't really want this feature of KDE. Why not disable the thing? I have this in make.conf: -nepomuk -semantic-desktop So far, that has disabled the whole desktop search thingy, that I also found to be a pest and never needed. Just a thought, in case you wasn't aware. Dale :-) :-) Do you use kmail? I disabled nepomuk at one point and I wasn't able to access my contacts on kmail. I think it's the same with baloo. And from what I've read the plan is for more applications to use it so you may miss important features. They recommend just disabling file indexing or adding your home directory to the exclusion list on system settings, But after doing that I still got that popup a few times until I okay'd it. I used to use Kmail until all this mess started. I think the last I used Kmail was back in KDE3. When I saw all this mess coming, I switched to Seamonkey. Seamonkey does all my email stuff and I'm happy with it. I do wish the sound notification thingy would work tho. Maybe I just need to sit down one day and try to figure out why it doesn't work. Sound works everywhere else. Still, it does what I really need without to much bloat. I installed KDE with the kde-meta. It basically installs everything but the kitchen sink. To be honest tho, I could likely install it in a better way that leaves out TONS of stuff I never use. This file indexer thingy is one of the ones I have never had a need for. If I want to find some file, locate, find and etc works for those rare occasions. It is rare since I'm fairly well organized with my stuff. Well, computer files at least. My closet and shop is a different matter tho. lol My point was that this can be disabled IF it is not needed. If it is needed, then fixing it is the solution. If it is not, disable it and shove the problem into the trash can. ;-) Dale :-) :-) Thanks to all that have posted. I tried a clean start: I've deleted all related (at least all that I could find) files used by baloo (just kept some backup copies in a ZIP file, just in case). As expected, all of them are back, and also that popup window, requiring root password. I guess, now, I am (we are) looking on the wrong place, perhaps this is a global setting, not a user one. Going to check this out. Thanks again, and Best Regards Francisco Found this: ~ # cat /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.baloo.filewatch.conf !DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC -//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd; busconfig !-- Only user root can own the foo helper -- policy user=root allow own=org.kde.baloo.filewatch/ /policy /busconfig Looks like there might be something related to what I am facing, isn't it? Googling the file name, I got this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339465 https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/2ibdf7/what_is_baloo_file_watch_and_why_does_it_need/ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/kde-4-13-3-%5Balien%5D-annoying-kde-polkit-and-wallet-prompts-4175517244/ So, got back to the first and (as it seems) proper solution, but with no effects, for now. Perhaps I'll just wait and see future upgrades on baloo. Meanwhile I will try to filter more directories not
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
Dale wrote: Fernando Rodriguez wrote: Interesting that it didn't pull baloo so you must have it installed? For some reason the quoting didn't quite work right. Hm. It appears I do. Now you going to make me have to go find out what pulled that in, then what pulled in what pulled it in and so on until I get rid of that thing. Grrr. * Searching for baloo in kde-base ... [IP-] [ ] kde-base/baloo-4.14.3:4/4.14 root@fireball / # Dale gives Fernando a Gibbs head smack ROFL Dale :-) :-) I think I found it. I needed to run --depclean. No clue why it was installed to begin with. kde-base/nepomuk-widgets selected: 4.14.3 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/nepomuk-core selected: 4.14.3 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/baloo selected: 4.14.3 protected: none omitted: none Wave bye bye. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
On Friday 21 August 2015 10:06:15 Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? I may have missed something here, but I'm puzzled. Without running an exhaustive search, the only \*baloo\* or \*nepomuk\* files I see on this box are these: $ find . -name \*baloo\* ./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer ./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer_changes.dat ./.local/share/baloo ./.kde4/share/config/baloorc ./.kde4/share/config/baloofilerc ...and this: $ cat /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.baloo.filewatch.conf !DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC -//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd; busconfig !-- Only user root can own the foo helper -- policy user=root allow own=org.kde.baloo.filewatch/ /policy /busconfig No sign of a filewatch-inotify anywhere, and the only file in /etc/sysctl.d is a readme. This is an openrc box, not systemd; maybe that's the difference. I've just removed -semantic-desktop from make.conf and only dolphin and gwenview were reinstalled. I'm writing this in KMail. So where have those files come from on your system? Have you run equery b on them? -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 21 August 2015 10:06:15 Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? I may have missed something here, but I'm puzzled. Without running an exhaustive search, the only \*baloo\* or \*nepomuk\* files I see on this box are these: $ find . -name \*baloo\* ./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer ./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer_changes.dat ./.local/share/baloo ./.kde4/share/config/baloorc ./.kde4/share/config/baloofilerc ...and this: $ cat /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.baloo.filewatch.conf !DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC -//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd; busconfig !-- Only user root can own the foo helper -- policy user=root allow own=org.kde.baloo.filewatch/ /policy /busconfig No sign of a filewatch-inotify anywhere, and the only file in /etc/sysctl.d is a readme. This is an openrc box, not systemd; maybe that's the difference. I've just removed -semantic-desktop from make.conf and only dolphin and gwenview were reinstalled. I'm writing this in KMail. So where have those files come from on your system? Have you run equery b on them? I removed the USE flags here and got this: root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=(-aqua) -debug 37 KiB [ebuild R] kde-apps/gwenview-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=handbook kipi semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug 0 KiB [ebuild R ~] media-gfx/digikam-4.12.0:4::gentoo USE=gphoto2 handbook mysql semantic-desktop* thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug -doc -video LINGUAS=-af -ar -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fo -fr -fy -ga -gl -ha -he -hi -hr -hsb -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -ko -ku -lb -lo -lt -lv -mi -mk -mn -ms -mt -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -nso -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -rw -se -sk -sl -sq -sr -sr@Latn -ss -sv -ta -te -tg -th -tr -tt -uk -uz -uz@cyrillic -ven -vi -wa -xh -zh_CN -zh_HK -zh_TW -zu 0 KiB [ebuild R] kde-apps/dolphin-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=handbook semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug -thumbnail 0 KiB Total: 4 packages (1 new, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 37 KiB It pulls in a extra package here. Sharing info just in case it might help. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
(You're up early! :) ) On Saturday 22 August 2015 05:03:31 Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: I may have missed something here, but I'm puzzled. Without running an exhaustive search, the only \*baloo\* or \*nepomuk\* files I see on this box are these: $ find . -name \*baloo\* ./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer ./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer_changes.dat ./.local/share/baloo ./.kde4/share/config/baloorc ./.kde4/share/config/baloofilerc ...and this: $ cat /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.baloo.filewatch.conf !DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC -//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd; busconfig !-- Only user root can own the foo helper -- policy user=root allow own=org.kde.baloo.filewatch/ /policy /busconfig No sign of a filewatch-inotify anywhere, and the only file in /etc/sysctl.d is a readme. This is an openrc box, not systemd; maybe that's the difference. I've just removed -semantic-desktop from make.conf and only dolphin and gwenview were reinstalled. I'm writing this in KMail. So where have those files come from on your system? Have you run equery b on them? I removed the USE flags here and got this: root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=(-aqua) -debug 37 KiB [ebuild R] kde-apps/gwenview-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=handbook kipi semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug 0 KiB [ebuild R ~] media-gfx/digikam-4.12.0:4::gentoo USE=gphoto2 handbook mysql semantic-desktop* thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug -doc -video LINGUAS=-af -ar -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fo -fr -fy -ga -gl -ha -he -hi -hr -hsb -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -ko -ku -lb -lo -lt -lv -mi -mk -mn -ms -mt -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -nso -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -rw -se -sk -sl -sq -sr -sr@Latn -ss -sv -ta -te -tg -th -tr -tt -uk -uz -uz@cyrillic -ven -vi -wa -xh -zh_CN -zh_HK -zh_TW -zu 0 KiB [ebuild R] kde-apps/dolphin-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=handbook semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug -thumbnail 0 KiB Total: 4 packages (1 new, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 37 KiB It pulls in a extra package here. Sharing info just in case it might help. But baloo-widgets doesn't use the semantic-desktop flag. Emerge -pv: [ebuild R] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=(-aqua) -debug 0 KiB Something else must be pulling it in on your box, Dale, no? -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
Peter Humphrey wrote: (You're up early! :) ) On Saturday 22 August 2015 05:03:31 Dale wrote: I removed the USE flags here and got this: root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=(-aqua) -debug 37 KiB [ebuild R] kde-apps/gwenview-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=handbook kipi semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug 0 KiB [ebuild R ~] media-gfx/digikam-4.12.0:4::gentoo USE=gphoto2 handbook mysql semantic-desktop* thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug -doc -video LINGUAS=-af -ar -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fo -fr -fy -ga -gl -ha -he -hi -hr -hsb -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -ko -ku -lb -lo -lt -lv -mi -mk -mn -ms -mt -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -nso -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -rw -se -sk -sl -sq -sr -sr@Latn -ss -sv -ta -te -tg -th -tr -tt -uk -uz -uz@cyrillic -ven -vi -wa -xh -zh_CN -zh_HK -zh_TW -zu 0 KiB [ebuild R] kde-apps/dolphin-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=handbook semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug -thumbnail 0 KiB Total: 4 packages (1 new, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 37 KiB It pulls in a extra package here. Sharing info just in case it might help. But baloo-widgets doesn't use the semantic-desktop flag. Emerge -pv: [ebuild R] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=(-aqua) -debug 0 KiB Something else must be pulling it in on your box, Dale, no? Well, when I went back and put it back like it was, I got this: root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB Nothing to merge; quitting. root@fireball / # So, it seems that USE flag is not optional for that package but that the USE flag being enabled causes it to be pulled in. I've had that crap disabled here since way back. Oh, I haven't been to bed yet. Give me a few minutes tho. -_- Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 12:07:00 Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: (You're up early! :) ) On Saturday 22 August 2015 05:03:31 Dale wrote: I removed the USE flags here and got this: root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=(-aqua) -debug 37 KiB [ebuild R] kde-apps/gwenview-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=handbook kipi semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug 0 KiB [ebuild R ~] media-gfx/digikam-4.12.0:4::gentoo USE=gphoto2 handbook mysql semantic-desktop* thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug -doc -video LINGUAS=-af -ar -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fo -fr -fy -ga -gl -ha -he -hi -hr -hsb -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -ko -ku -lb -lo -lt -lv -mi -mk -mn -ms -mt -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -nso -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -rw -se -sk -sl -sq -sr -sr@Latn -ss -sv -ta -te -tg -th -tr -tt -uk -uz -uz@cyrillic -ven -vi -wa -xh -zh_CN -zh_HK -zh_TW -zu 0 KiB [ebuild R] kde-apps/dolphin-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=handbook semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug -thumbnail 0 KiB Total: 4 packages (1 new, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 37 KiB It pulls in a extra package here. Sharing info just in case it might help. But baloo-widgets doesn't use the semantic-desktop flag. Emerge -pv: [ebuild R] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=(-aqua) -debug 0 KiB Something else must be pulling it in on your box, Dale, no? Well, when I went back and put it back like it was, I got this: root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB Nothing to merge; quitting. root@fireball / # So, it seems that USE flag is not optional for that package but that the USE flag being enabled causes it to be pulled in. I've had that crap disabled here since way back. Oh, I haven't been to bed yet. Give me a few minutes tho. -_- Dale :-) :-) There was an e-news item: 2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal Therefore, I think that the nepomuk USE flag is no longer valid, although semantic-desktop is still being used. KDEPIM needs the semantic-desktop USE flag, or it won't work fully. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
On Saturday 22 August 2015 12:37:01 Mick wrote: There was an e-news item: 2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal Oo-er. Eselect news list here shows all news items as having been removed. I haven't seen that before - I'd better look into it. I did notice a batch of news files going by during a recent sync though, so perhaps this is another symptom of the gentoo sync mechanism. Therefore, I think that the nepomuk USE flag is no longer valid, although semantic-desktop is still being used. KDEPIM needs the semantic-desktop USE flag, or it won't work fully. As long as you only want the KMail component of KDEPim you can get away without semantic-desktop. So far. :-) -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 14:13:46 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 22 August 2015 12:37:01 Mick wrote: There was an e-news item: 2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal Oo-er. Eselect news list here shows all news items as having been removed. I haven't seen that before - I'd better look into it. I did notice a batch of news files going by during a recent sync though, so perhaps this is another symptom of the gentoo sync mechanism. This is what it contains: 2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal Title Nepomuk removal AuthorJohannes Huber j...@gentoo.org Posted2015-08-11 Revision 1 With KDE SC 4.13.0 release the default semantic desktop search engine switched from Nepomuk to Baloo.[1] This change was honoured in Gentoo by changing the semantic-desktop use flag to cover the new engine and moving the old to nepomuk use flag. The underlaying storage backend for Nepomuk aka Virtuoso DB has a lot of unsolved upstream issues[2], therefore we will remove it. This means packages with build options on the old stack will drop them. Other packages which hard requiring it will be removed. If you are still using Nepomuk you can switch to Baloo by globally enable semantic-desktop and disabling nepomuk use flag in /etc/portage/make.conf or using one of the kde desktop profiles. [1] https://www.kde.org/announcements/4.13/ [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=virtuoso Therefore, I think that the nepomuk USE flag is no longer valid, although semantic-desktop is still being used. KDEPIM needs the semantic-desktop USE flag, or it won't work fully. As long as you only want the KMail component of KDEPim you can get away without semantic-desktop. So far. :-) I think that migration of data will fail, address book searches won't work, etc. I haven't looked into it at any depth TBH, but enabled USE=nepomuk semantic-desktop as it was back then for this reason. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
Mick wrote: On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 12:07:00 Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: (You're up early! :) ) On Saturday 22 August 2015 05:03:31 Dale wrote: I removed the USE flags here and got this: root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=(-aqua) -debug 37 KiB [ebuild R] kde-apps/gwenview-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=handbook kipi semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug 0 KiB [ebuild R ~] media-gfx/digikam-4.12.0:4::gentoo USE=gphoto2 handbook mysql semantic-desktop* thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug -doc -video LINGUAS=-af -ar -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fo -fr -fy -ga -gl -ha -he -hi -hr -hsb -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -ko -ku -lb -lo -lt -lv -mi -mk -mn -ms -mt -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -nso -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -rw -se -sk -sl -sq -sr -sr@Latn -ss -sv -ta -te -tg -th -tr -tt -uk -uz -uz@cyrillic -ven -vi -wa -xh -zh_CN -zh_HK -zh_TW -zu 0 KiB [ebuild R] kde-apps/dolphin-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=handbook semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug -thumbnail 0 KiB Total: 4 packages (1 new, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 37 KiB It pulls in a extra package here. Sharing info just in case it might help. But baloo-widgets doesn't use the semantic-desktop flag. Emerge -pv: [ebuild R] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=(-aqua) -debug 0 KiB Something else must be pulling it in on your box, Dale, no? Well, when I went back and put it back like it was, I got this: root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB Nothing to merge; quitting. root@fireball / # So, it seems that USE flag is not optional for that package but that the USE flag being enabled causes it to be pulled in. I've had that crap disabled here since way back. Oh, I haven't been to bed yet. Give me a few minutes tho. -_- Dale :-) :-) There was an e-news item: 2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal Therefore, I think that the nepomuk USE flag is no longer valid, although semantic-desktop is still being used. KDEPIM needs the semantic-desktop USE flag, or it won't work fully. Yea, I read that and made sure that any related USE flags were disabled. I didn't want it back then and I don't want it now either. A lot of days, I wish KDE3 was still around and up to date. I switch back most likely. KDE3 worked just fine for me. Everything I use here works so whatever KDEPIM needs, it must have. I'm not sure I use anything it provides anyway. As I mentioned before, I don't really need ALL of KDE. I don't use Kmail, the KDE contact thingy or any of that. I just don't feel like figuring out what I could remove and what would need to be changed in my world file to just get what I really use. Maybe one of these days. Doubtful tho. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
On Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:03:31 AM Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 21 August 2015 10:06:15 Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? I may have missed something here, but I'm puzzled. Without running an exhaustive search, the only \*baloo\* or \*nepomuk\* files I see on this box are these: $ find . -name \*baloo\* ./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer ./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer_changes.dat ./.local/share/baloo ./.kde4/share/config/baloorc ./.kde4/share/config/baloofilerc ...and this: $ cat /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.baloo.filewatch.conf !DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC -//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd; busconfig !-- Only user root can own the foo helper -- policy user=root allow own=org.kde.baloo.filewatch/ /policy /busconfig No sign of a filewatch-inotify anywhere, and the only file in /etc/sysctl.d is a readme. This is an openrc box, not systemd; maybe that's the difference. I've just removed -semantic-desktop from make.conf and only dolphin and gwenview were reinstalled. I'm writing this in KMail. So where have those files come from on your system? Have you run equery b on them? I removed the USE flags here and got this: root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=(-aqua) -debug 37 KiB [ebuild R] kde-apps/gwenview-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=handbook kipi semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug 0 KiB [ebuild R ~] media-gfx/digikam-4.12.0:4::gentoo USE=gphoto2 handbook mysql semantic-desktop* thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug -doc -video LINGUAS=-af -ar -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fo -fr -fy -ga -gl -ha -he -hi -hr -hsb -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -ko -ku -lb -lo -lt -lv -mi -mk -mn -ms -mt -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -nso -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -rw -se -sk -sl -sq -sr -sr@Latn -ss -sv -ta -te -tg -th -tr -tt -uk -uz -uz@cyrillic -ven -vi -wa -xh -zh_CN -zh_HK -zh_TW -zu 0 KiB [ebuild R] kde-apps/dolphin-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=handbook semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug -thumbnail 0 KiB Total: 4 packages (1 new, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 37 KiB It pulls in a extra package here. Sharing info just in case it might help. Dale :-) :-) Interesting that it didn't pull baloo so you must have it installed? -- Fernando Rodriguez
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:03:31 AM Dale wrote: I removed the USE flags here and got this: root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=(-aqua) -debug 37 KiB [ebuild R] kde-apps/gwenview-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=handbook kipi semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug 0 KiB [ebuild R ~] media-gfx/digikam-4.12.0:4::gentoo USE=gphoto2 handbook mysql semantic-desktop* thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug -doc -video LINGUAS=-af -ar -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fo -fr -fy -ga -gl -ha -he -hi -hr -hsb -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -ko -ku -lb -lo -lt -lv -mi -mk -mn -ms -mt -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -nso -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -rw -se -sk -sl -sq -sr -sr@Latn -ss -sv -ta -te -tg -th -tr -tt -uk -uz -uz@cyrillic -ven -vi -wa -xh -zh_CN -zh_HK -zh_TW -zu 0 KiB [ebuild R] kde-apps/dolphin-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE=handbook semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug -thumbnail 0 KiB Total: 4 packages (1 new, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 37 KiB It pulls in a extra package here. Sharing info just in case it might help. Dale :-) :-) Interesting that it didn't pull baloo so you must have it installed? For some reason the quoting didn't quite work right. Hm. It appears I do. Now you going to make me have to go find out what pulled that in, then what pulled in what pulled it in and so on until I get rid of that thing. Grrr. * Searching for baloo in kde-base ... [IP-] [ ] kde-base/baloo-4.14.3:4/4.14 root@fireball / # Dale gives Fernando a Gibbs head smack ROFL Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
On Saturday 22 August 2015 14:48:18 Mick wrote: On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 14:13:46 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 22 August 2015 12:37:01 Mick wrote: There was an e-news item: 2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal Oo-er. Eselect news list here shows all news items as having been removed. I haven't seen that before - I'd better look into it. I did notice a batch of news files going by during a recent sync though, so perhaps this is another symptom of the gentoo sync mechanism. This is what it contains: 2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal Title Nepomuk removal AuthorJohannes Huber j...@gentoo.org Posted2015-08-11 Revision 1 With KDE SC 4.13.0 release the default semantic desktop search engine switched from Nepomuk to Baloo.[1] This change was honoured in Gentoo by changing the semantic-desktop use flag to cover the new engine and moving the old to nepomuk use flag. The underlaying storage backend for Nepomuk aka Virtuoso DB has a lot of unsolved upstream issues[2], therefore we will remove it. This means packages with build options on the old stack will drop them. Other packages which hard requiring it will be removed. If you are still using Nepomuk you can switch to Baloo by globally enable semantic-desktop and disabling nepomuk use flag in /etc/portage/make.conf or using one of the kde desktop profiles. [1] https://www.kde.org/announcements/4.13/ [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=virtuoso Therefore, I think that the nepomuk USE flag is no longer valid, although semantic-desktop is still being used. KDEPIM needs the semantic-desktop USE flag, or it won't work fully. As long as you only want the KMail component of KDEPim you can get away without semantic-desktop. So far. :-) I think that migration of data will fail, address book searches won't work, etc. I haven't looked into it at any depth TBH, but enabled USE=nepomuk semantic-desktop as it was back then for this reason. All right, thanks. Also for the copy of the news item. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system to get change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver), instead of polling the filesystem. This is actually better, performance wise. To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time ago: % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :) Kind regards, Joost Thank you, Joost. Best Regards, Francisco
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:56:58 AM Francisco Ares wrote: 2015-08-21 10:49 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system to get change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver), instead of polling the filesystem. This is actually better, performance wise. To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time ago: % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :) Kind regards, Joost Thank you, Joost. Best Regards, Francisco Checking on the file pointed by Joost, I've found it on my filesystem), but there is another file, an almost exact copy, for baloo: ~ # l /etc/sysctl.d/ total 28K drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4,0K Ago 21 10:50 ./ drwxr-xr-x 160 root root 12K Ago 21 10:22 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Ago 21 09:16 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Mai 7 2014 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf ~ # cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-* fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 32768 The first value (65536) is from 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf . The second (32768) is from 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf. So, the mystery goes on... Thanks, Francisco what does: % cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches give you? My guess: 32768 (as that's the last one it will find) On my system I get 65536. I think if you were to remove the nepomuk file, it should work. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
2015-08-21 11:30 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-21 11:02 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:56:58 AM Francisco Ares wrote: 2015-08-21 10:49 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system to get change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver), instead of polling the filesystem. This is actually better, performance wise. To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time ago: % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :) Kind regards, Joost Thank you, Joost. Best Regards, Francisco Checking on the file pointed by Joost, I've found it on my filesystem), but there is another file, an almost exact copy, for baloo: ~ # l /etc/sysctl.d/ total 28K drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4,0K Ago 21 10:50 ./ drwxr-xr-x 160 root root 12K Ago 21 10:22 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Ago 21 09:16 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Mai 7 2014 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf ~ # cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-* fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 32768 The first value (65536) is from 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf . The second (32768) is from 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf. So, the mystery goes on... Thanks, Francisco what does: % cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches give you? My guess: 32768 (as that's the last one it will find) On my system I get 65536. I think if you were to remove the nepomuk file, it should work. -- Joost Unexpected: ~ $ cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches 131072 both as a regular user an as root. Going to search for this number on config files. Thanks for the clue. Francisco Also unexpected: ~ # cd /etc etc # fgrep -R 131072 * 2 /dev/null apache2/modules.d/10_mod_mem_cache.conf:MCacheSize 131072 sane.d/sharp.conf:option buffersize 131072 sysctl.d/97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf:fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 131072 I have logged out and back in, to check for the effects on that window asking for root password. It did show up again, and now the file 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf has been changed. Going to try again, after removing 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf. Back soon...
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
2015-08-21 11:02 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:56:58 AM Francisco Ares wrote: 2015-08-21 10:49 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system to get change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver), instead of polling the filesystem. This is actually better, performance wise. To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time ago: % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :) Kind regards, Joost Thank you, Joost. Best Regards, Francisco Checking on the file pointed by Joost, I've found it on my filesystem), but there is another file, an almost exact copy, for baloo: ~ # l /etc/sysctl.d/ total 28K drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4,0K Ago 21 10:50 ./ drwxr-xr-x 160 root root 12K Ago 21 10:22 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Ago 21 09:16 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Mai 7 2014 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf ~ # cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-* fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 32768 The first value (65536) is from 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf . The second (32768) is from 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf. So, the mystery goes on... Thanks, Francisco what does: % cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches give you? My guess: 32768 (as that's the last one it will find) On my system I get 65536. I think if you were to remove the nepomuk file, it should work. -- Joost Unexpected: ~ $ cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches 131072 both as a regular user an as root. Going to search for this number on config files. Thanks for the clue. Francisco
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system to get change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver), instead of polling the filesystem. This is actually better, performance wise. To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time ago: % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :) Kind regards, Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
2015-08-21 10:49 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system to get change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver), instead of polling the filesystem. This is actually better, performance wise. To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time ago: % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :) Kind regards, Joost Thank you, Joost. Best Regards, Francisco Checking on the file pointed by Joost, I've found it on my filesystem), but there is another file, an almost exact copy, for baloo: ~ # l /etc/sysctl.d/ total 28K drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4,0K Ago 21 10:50 ./ drwxr-xr-x 160 root root 12K Ago 21 10:22 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Ago 21 09:16 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Mai 7 2014 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf ~ # cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-* fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 32768 The first value (65536) is from 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf . The second (32768) is from 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf. So, the mystery goes on... Thanks, Francisco
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
2015-08-21 11:56 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On 21 August 2015 16:39:12 CEST, Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-08-21 11:30 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-21 11:02 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:56:58 AM Francisco Ares wrote: 2015-08-21 10:49 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system to get change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver), instead of polling the filesystem. This is actually better, performance wise. To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time ago: % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :) Kind regards, Joost Thank you, Joost. Best Regards, Francisco Checking on the file pointed by Joost, I've found it on my filesystem), but there is another file, an almost exact copy, for baloo: ~ # l /etc/sysctl.d/ total 28K drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4,0K Ago 21 10:50 ./ drwxr-xr-x 160 root root 12K Ago 21 10:22 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Ago 21 09:16 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Mai 7 2014 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf ~ # cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-* fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 32768 The first value (65536) is from 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf . The second (32768) is from 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf. So, the mystery goes on... Thanks, Francisco what does: % cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches give you? My guess: 32768 (as that's the last one it will find) On my system I get 65536. I think if you were to remove the nepomuk file, it should work. -- Joost Unexpected: ~ $ cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches 131072 both as a regular user an as root. Going to search for this number on config files. Thanks for the clue. Francisco Also unexpected: ~ # cd /etc etc # fgrep -R 131072 * 2 /dev/null apache2/modules.d/10_mod_mem_cache.conf:MCacheSize 131072 sane.d/sharp.conf:option buffersize 131072 sysctl.d/97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf:fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 131072 I have logged out and back in, to check for the effects on that window asking for root password. It did show up again, and now the file 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf has been changed. Going to try again, after removing 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf. Back soon... Just a guess. I think when you provide the root password 2 things happen: That value gets increased on the fly (inside /proc/sys/) And the baloo-file gets updated as well. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Most probably, I also suppose so. Given root password, the system may do anything, and that's what scares me ;-) Best Regards, Francisco
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
On 21 August 2015 16:39:12 CEST, Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-08-21 11:30 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-21 11:02 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:56:58 AM Francisco Ares wrote: 2015-08-21 10:49 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system to get change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver), instead of polling the filesystem. This is actually better, performance wise. To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time ago: % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :) Kind regards, Joost Thank you, Joost. Best Regards, Francisco Checking on the file pointed by Joost, I've found it on my filesystem), but there is another file, an almost exact copy, for baloo: ~ # l /etc/sysctl.d/ total 28K drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4,0K Ago 21 10:50 ./ drwxr-xr-x 160 root root 12K Ago 21 10:22 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Ago 21 09:16 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Mai 7 2014 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf ~ # cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-* fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 32768 The first value (65536) is from 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf . The second (32768) is from 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf. So, the mystery goes on... Thanks, Francisco what does: % cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches give you? My guess: 32768 (as that's the last one it will find) On my system I get 65536. I think if you were to remove the nepomuk file, it should work. -- Joost Unexpected: ~ $ cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches 131072 both as a regular user an as root. Going to search for this number on config files. Thanks for the clue. Francisco Also unexpected: ~ # cd /etc etc # fgrep -R 131072 * 2 /dev/null apache2/modules.d/10_mod_mem_cache.conf:MCacheSize 131072 sane.d/sharp.conf:option buffersize 131072 sysctl.d/97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf:fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 131072 I have logged out and back in, to check for the effects on that window asking for root password. It did show up again, and now the file 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf has been changed. Going to try again, after removing 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf. Back soon... Just a guess. I think when you provide the root password 2 things happen: That value gets increased on the fly (inside /proc/sys/) And the baloo-file gets updated as well. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
2015-08-21 11:39 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-21 11:30 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-21 11:02 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:56:58 AM Francisco Ares wrote: 2015-08-21 10:49 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system to get change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver), instead of polling the filesystem. This is actually better, performance wise. To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time ago: % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :) Kind regards, Joost Thank you, Joost. Best Regards, Francisco Checking on the file pointed by Joost, I've found it on my filesystem), but there is another file, an almost exact copy, for baloo: ~ # l /etc/sysctl.d/ total 28K drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4,0K Ago 21 10:50 ./ drwxr-xr-x 160 root root 12K Ago 21 10:22 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Ago 21 09:16 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Mai 7 2014 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf ~ # cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-* fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 32768 The first value (65536) is from 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf . The second (32768) is from 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf. So, the mystery goes on... Thanks, Francisco what does: % cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches give you? My guess: 32768 (as that's the last one it will find) On my system I get 65536. I think if you were to remove the nepomuk file, it should work. -- Joost Unexpected: ~ $ cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches 131072 both as a regular user an as root. Going to search for this number on config files. Thanks for the clue. Francisco Also unexpected: ~ # cd /etc etc # fgrep -R 131072 * 2 /dev/null apache2/modules.d/10_mod_mem_cache.conf:MCacheSize 131072 sane.d/sharp.conf:option buffersize 131072 sysctl.d/97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf:fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 131072 I have logged out and back in, to check for the effects on that window asking for root password. It did show up again, and now the file 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf has been changed. Going to try again, after removing 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf. Back soon... It took a while longer, but there it is, asking for root password. After removing 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf and adjusting 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf contents to the suggested by Joost, there it is again, asking for root password. Now, before hitting the OK button: polkit.subject.pid 24276 polkit.caller.pid: 25543 ~ # ps -ejH PID PGID SID TTY TIME CMD 2 0 0 ?00:00:00 kthreadd 3 0 0 ?00:00:01 ksoftirqd/0 5 0 0 ?00:00:00 kworker/0:0H ... 25528 0 0 ?00:00:00 kworker/3:2 25536 0 0 ?00:00:00 kworker/1:2 1 1 1 ?00:00:00 init 1761 1761 1761 ?00:00:00 systemd-udevd ... 24173 24173 24173 ?00:00:00 dbus-daemon 24220 24220 24220 ?00:00:00 kdeinit4 24221 24220 24220 ?00:00:00 klauncher ... 24247 24220 24220 ?00:00:00 kactivitymanage 24270 24220 24220 ?00:00:17 plasma-desktop 24272 24220 24220 ?00:00:00 ksysguardd 24276 24220 24220 ?00:00:25 baloo_file ... 25543 3972 3972 ?00:00:00 kde_baloo_filew So, they are part of the same tree, but there is no parent-child relationship among them - as far as I understand this listing. Thanks! Francisco
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
What in god's name are these semantic desktops good for any way? The only thing nepomunk ever did was consume CPU resources, I think I intentionally broke the e-build on that one to prevent it from installing such a useful, resource hungry, piece of crap. =( Who do you think I am? A windows user??? I use fvwm. In a few years I expect to be sick of it again, at which point I'll try every window manager I can get to work on my system, then I'll re-discover fvwm and use it for another 5 years... -- IQ is a measure of how stupid you feel. Powers are not rights.
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
On 21/08/2015 17:05, Alan Grimes wrote: What in god's name are these semantic desktops good for any way? The only thing nepomunk ever did was consume CPU resources, I think I intentionally broke the e-build on that one to prevent it from installing such a useful, resource hungry, piece of crap. =( Who do you think I am? A windows user??? Well, let's see. It's not like Nepomuk and the concept of a semantic desktop wasn't a university research project sponsored by the European Union, and the researchers chose KDE to implement it on (presumably because OSS is an excellent fit for exactly that kind of thing). It's not like there aren't many web pages out there that fully describe the origins of Nepomuk and what the purpose of the research was, and that Google can't find all of those issues for you in mere seconds. Nope, it wasn't like that at all. The purpose and goal of Nepomuk is not in doubt, not even slightly. The first implementation though, turns out to have been less than ideal, particularly the backing store. So Nepomuk was eventually considered a flawed prototype that demonstrated what not to do (this is the *real* purpose of prototypes - ask any successful engineer), and Baloo written instead. The intent is to get the benefits of a semantic desktop without having to use all available resources to do it. Not everything in this world warrants a clueless rant you know. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
On Friday, August 21, 2015 11:05:06 AM Alan Grimes wrote: What in god's name are these semantic desktops good for any way? The only thing nepomunk ever did was consume CPU resources, I think I intentionally broke the e-build on that one to prevent it from installing such a useful, resource hungry, piece of crap. =( Who do you think I am? A windows user??? Yes
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Thank you all. Francisco Reading your posts, it seems you don't really want this feature of KDE. Why not disable the thing? I have this in make.conf: -nepomuk -semantic-desktop So far, that has disabled the whole desktop search thingy, that I also found to be a pest and never needed. Just a thought, in case you wasn't aware. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
On Friday, August 21, 2015 6:27:36 PM Dale wrote: Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Thank you all. Francisco Reading your posts, it seems you don't really want this feature of KDE. Why not disable the thing? I have this in make.conf: -nepomuk -semantic-desktop So far, that has disabled the whole desktop search thingy, that I also found to be a pest and never needed. Just a thought, in case you wasn't aware. Dale :-) :-) Do you use kmail? I disabled nepomuk at one point and I wasn't able to access my contacts on kmail. I think it's the same with baloo. And from what I've read the plan is for more applications to use it so you may miss important features. They recommend just disabling file indexing or adding your home directory to the exclusion list on system settings, But after doing that I still got that popup a few times until I okay'd it. -- Fernando Rodriguez
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Friday, August 21, 2015 6:27:36 PM Dale wrote: Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Thank you all. Francisco Reading your posts, it seems you don't really want this feature of KDE. Why not disable the thing? I have this in make.conf: -nepomuk -semantic-desktop So far, that has disabled the whole desktop search thingy, that I also found to be a pest and never needed. Just a thought, in case you wasn't aware. Dale :-) :-) Do you use kmail? I disabled nepomuk at one point and I wasn't able to access my contacts on kmail. I think it's the same with baloo. And from what I've read the plan is for more applications to use it so you may miss important features. They recommend just disabling file indexing or adding your home directory to the exclusion list on system settings, But after doing that I still got that popup a few times until I okay'd it. I used to use Kmail until all this mess started. I think the last I used Kmail was back in KDE3. When I saw all this mess coming, I switched to Seamonkey. Seamonkey does all my email stuff and I'm happy with it. I do wish the sound notification thingy would work tho. Maybe I just need to sit down one day and try to figure out why it doesn't work. Sound works everywhere else. Still, it does what I really need without to much bloat. I installed KDE with the kde-meta. It basically installs everything but the kitchen sink. To be honest tho, I could likely install it in a better way that leaves out TONS of stuff I never use. This file indexer thingy is one of the ones I have never had a need for. If I want to find some file, locate, find and etc works for those rare occasions. It is rare since I'm fairly well organized with my stuff. Well, computer files at least. My closet and shop is a different matter tho. lol My point was that this can be disabled IF it is not needed. If it is needed, then fixing it is the solution. If it is not, disable it and shove the problem into the trash can. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
